But others say Pastor Hutcherson is simply bringing clarity to the rules of the scripture.

Whatever you believe, Pastor Hutcherson is making some big waves and said he loves every minute of it.

You can learn a lot about him by walking through his office. He is a hunter and there are a lot of animal trophies on his walls

"God has given us this country and has given us animals to subdue and train, and that's what I do and I enjoy it." I asked him, "You think God gave us animals to subdue and train?" Pastor Hutcherson replied, "Oh yeah, you bet, to please man."

The founder of Kirkland's Antioch Bible Church is a former pro-football player who brings the same intensity to his spiritual game.

"And because I know I'm focused, and because I know I know the commands of Him, I know I'm gonna win. So I say bring on the competition."

These days "Hutch" -- as his congregation affectionately calls him -- has plenty of adversaries. The gay community is at the top of the list.

In May, gay and lesbian activists were told they couldn't be part of Antioch's Sunday service, unless they removed their rainbow colored armbands.

"If they keep coming back, we're gonna expect them to change," Pastor Hutcherson said in May about gays and lesbians coming to his church. "And if they don't change their lifestyle when they keep coming back to be a part of this church, we're gonna do like we do anyone else that's sinning and won't repent. We're gonna bring them before the church and we're gonna kick 'em out."

"Oh, they call me a bigot, Kathi," he sad when I sat down with him recently. "That's worse than discrimination. I'm supposed to hate them."

I asked if he is a bigot. He said, "Well, if it means believing in God's outstanding truth, you could probably say yeah. But if you're talking about hatred -- thinking I'm better than someone else -- no not at all"

And, he'll challenge anyone.

Pastor Hutcherson lobbied Microsoft to drop its support of a gay rights bill in the state legislature, threatening a nationwide boycott.

Microsoft flip-flopped. They changed their position to neutral and the bill failed in Olympia by one vote.

But two weeks later, CEO Steve Ballmer said 'that diversity in the workplace 'should' be part of Microsoft's 'legislative agenda.'

Pastor Hutcherson says Microsoft has not seen the last of him.

"What they've done is tell me what they're gonna do, what their next move is gonna be what their quarterback is going to do," he explained. "I got a whole year to recruit the best defensive players in the world to knock their quarterback out. I'm going to enjoy victory. And if you've got God on your side, what's a Microsoft?"

Antioch Bible Church now has around 3,500 members. They say they're used to their Pastor ruffling feathers.

"Well, let's face it, he doesn't mince words," said Brent Shifley. "He tells it the way it is. He steps on toes, (in fact) he's stepped on my toes many a time," he added with a laugh.

Church member Traci Washington said, "He's just a really caring, good guy who's just trying to do what God has called him to do."

Hutcherson's church meets in schools and gymnasiums. Some people in the Lake Washington District believe the district should not rent its property out to Antioch.

"If a group comes in to rent the facility, I think they ought to have to do is sign an agreement saying we will uphold what the district policies are," said Kevin Teely, with the Lake Washington Teachers Union. "One of those policies is anti-discrimination."

But Hutcherson said the church is simply a renter, paying $140,000 every year.

"It's not even the school that's talking about kicking us out. It's the homosexual president of the Lake Washington Teachers Union that's bringing this all up. Now, who's really the hypocrite and who's really the one that's intolerant?"

Antioch's founder would like his to church to grow, only because he wants to have more influence on society and its morals.

And, with the Bible as his playbook, Pastor Ken Hutcherson said he'll win every time.

"The country better be glad I did not want to be President of the United States," he said with a big smile. I said in response, "You think pretty highly of yourself." He replied, "You know why? I know who I belong to. I'm a child of the King."

Pastor Hutcherson told me he believes that many churches today have no "spiritual backbone."

Others in the evangelical community say in a state like Washington, which has one of the lowest church-going rates in the country, it's better to include people rather than alienate them.