'Sister Wives' lawsuit back in Utah courtroom

SALT LAKE CITY (AP) — A federal judge holding a hearing on a lawsuit by the stars of the reality show "Sister Wives" heard arguments Thursday on whether Utah can prohibit plural marriage, but issued no immediate ruling.
Kody Brown and his four wives claim the law is unconstitutional. The family fled Utah for Las Vegas last year under the threat of prosecution. They did not attend the hearing in Salt Lake City, leaving arguments to a constitutional law professor.
"The Browns wanted to show people that a plural family is not a monstrosity," said Jonathan Turley of The George Washington University. "They don't commit collateral problems."
Turley said the Browns' only sin was opening their family to the TLC hit series, which drew the attention of Utah authorities.
"The state is saying if you didn't do this TV show, you wouldn't have a problem," he said. "They have a right to free speech and are being prosecuted for it."
The hearing dealt with the legalities of due process and freedom of association.
U.S. District Judge Clark Waddoups peppered a state lawyer on why he shouldn't throw out Utah's bigamy law. It's stricter than the laws in 49 other states — most of them prohibit people from having multiple marriage licenses. Utah makes it illegal to even purport to be married to multiple partners or live together.
What if Kody Brown kept separate households for each wife, or was just having affairs, the judge asked.
"That would not be polygamy," said Assistant Utah Attorney General Jerrold Jensen.
Yet Jensen argued Utah's unique history of polygamy for more than 100 years has made victims of thousands of girls forced to marry as young as 13, and caused rampant child abuse, with boys "kicked out on the street" to reduce competition for older men seeking multiple brides. He said the state has an interest in preventing social harm.
Waddoups said the Browns' 17 children are irrelevant to the case, and Turley argued that sex and child abuse was just as common in monogamous families.
Waddoups challenged Jensen on whether Utah was cracking down on a religion. Most polygamists in the state call themselves fundamentalist Mormons, although The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints renounced polygamy more than a century ago.
"Every state in the nation has these laws — and not every state has Mormon polygamists," replied Jensen, who argued that bigamy was not merely adultery. "I'll tell you what makes it different — the harm to women and children coming out of a polygamous relationship. We have a history of it in Utah — stories in the thousands."
Turley said Utah has to prove the harm of polygamy, not assert general statements. He argued the exile of young boys was a myth and that Utah was trying to enforce morality.
"We're asking for what Justice Brandeis called the most important constitutional right, the right to be left alone," Turley said, referring to Louis Brandeis, who served on the U.S. Supreme Court from 1916 to 1939.
Kody Brown and his four wives claim the law is unconstitutional. The family fled Utah for Las Vegas last year under the threat of prosecution. They did not attend the hearing in Salt Lake City, leaving arguments to a constitutional law professor.
"The Browns wanted to show people that a plural family is not a monstrosity," said Jonathan Turley of The George Washington University. "They don't commit collateral problems."
Turley said the Browns' only sin was opening their family to the TLC hit series, which drew the attention of Utah authorities.
"The state is saying if you didn't do this TV show, you wouldn't have a problem," he said. "They have a right to free speech and are being prosecuted for it."
The hearing dealt with the legalities of due process and freedom of association.
U.S. District Judge Clark Waddoups peppered a state lawyer on why he shouldn't throw out Utah's bigamy law. It's stricter than the laws in 49 other states — most of them prohibit people from having multiple marriage licenses. Utah makes it illegal to even purport to be married to multiple partners or live together.
What if Kody Brown kept separate households for each wife, or was just having affairs, the judge asked.
"That would not be polygamy," said Assistant Utah Attorney General Jerrold Jensen.
Yet Jensen argued Utah's unique history of polygamy for more than 100 years has made victims of thousands of girls forced to marry as young as 13, and caused rampant child abuse, with boys "kicked out on the street" to reduce competition for older men seeking multiple brides. He said the state has an interest in preventing social harm.
Waddoups said the Browns' 17 children are irrelevant to the case, and Turley argued that sex and child abuse was just as common in monogamous families.
Waddoups challenged Jensen on whether Utah was cracking down on a religion. Most polygamists in the state call themselves fundamentalist Mormons, although The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints renounced polygamy more than a century ago.
"Every state in the nation has these laws — and not every state has Mormon polygamists," replied Jensen, who argued that bigamy was not merely adultery. "I'll tell you what makes it different — the harm to women and children coming out of a polygamous relationship. We have a history of it in Utah — stories in the thousands."
Turley said Utah has to prove the harm of polygamy, not assert general statements. He argued the exile of young boys was a myth and that Utah was trying to enforce morality.
"We're asking for what Justice Brandeis called the most important constitutional right, the right to be left alone," Turley said, referring to Louis Brandeis, who served on the U.S. Supreme Court from 1916 to 1939.
Let them be. I'm sure that guy has enough stress being married to 4 women and having 17 children. He shouldn't have to worry about being persecuted too.
i'd be hanging out with the two on the right waaay more than the two on the left....
Sorry Utah, your priorities have been screwed up for years...give it a rest and get on with the business of living. Â These people have opened their lives to the public, admitted they have normal family problems like the rest of us but for the most part they seem like normal well adjusted people who are happy. Â As another said, they don't appear to be hurting anyone. Â Is it a life for me, no, but it seems to work for them.
If he is only legally married to one of them, what is the actual crime here. Leave them alone.
The bad thing about multiple wives: multiple Mother-in-laws. Men, you have been warned!!
Not the government or justice system's business. Unless they collect welfare for what the state sees as illegitimate children there's no reason to waste resources on these cases.
Damn, there goes my fantasy!
I have to wonder: what about instances of polygamy in which a woman takes multiple husbands? i.e. Brother Husbands? All this article talks about it a guy with multiple wives, and the overall tone of opinion is "so what?" Would you all fee lthe same way about a 1 woman-many men relationship?
 @nutz2u I'd be just as unlikely to get involved either way. Doesn't change anything.
From the mouth of Mark Twain: Â "Mormon women were so ugly that any man that would marry one should be honored. And any man that could marry two should have a monument erected to him."
@Ducky Wow, at first I couldn't decide if your comment indicated that you are a mostly a sexist jerk or mostly an anti-Mormon bigot, but maybe you just decided to combine BOTH prejudices. What an achievement.
I've always felt that laws against polygamy were unconstitutional. I'm not defending or supporting polygamy, I'm just saying that the constitution supposedly protects freedom of religion, but then it supposedly protects a lot of other things too.Â
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The question is why some people feel so compelled to tell other people how to live their lives.
With so-called 'gay marriage' being legitimized in our generation, this should be of no surprise or consequence. The abolition of marriage as it was instituted means any number of consenting adults who intend to cohabitate sexually are entitled to 'marry'. Our society and economy will not support it. Marriage between a man and a woman as an institution of family is not just a good way to structure a healthy society, it is the only way to structure a healthy society.
 @Obewise Structure your life as you see fit.
As long as they are adults that have entered into the union willingly and if the children are well (i.e. not being abused or forced to marry), who cares? Let them have their marriage. The only exception would be the groups that hurt children or force them into marriages against their will.
Much ado about nothing...who cares and if you do care, why do you care ???
any man with more than 1 wife is a nut case indeed...
So what who care? if men can marry men and women can marry women and man can marry a woman. and if a man wants to have more then one wife and every one is ok with it who the freak cares. if it does not pick my pocket or break my leg or harms a child who care. and yes that lawyer was right child abuse goes one in tradtional marriages too.
It will be interesting to see how the law will be interpreted when you flaunt polygamy on TV. I wonder how he decides he needs a new wife and how he dates. So it's not cheating when a husband with two and three wives seeks a fourth and then begins to court the next Mrs. Sister Wife. Except for the big one on the end, the shoes are tragic.Â
I think there are laws against fraud, and that is the only bigamy or polygamy law there needs to be. If he marries more than once without all parties being aware and is for fraudulent purposes- that's a felony. When everyone is involved and no party is being hurt- it is adults living their lives and we need to leave it alone. I mean, it isn't like the police have nothing but time on their hands. Isn't there legitimate crime to deal with? And there child abuse laws for those that have the "compounds" and sell their 13 yr old daughter to the dirty old man next door or boot their teen son because he has become competition. So this is just a different kind of family and why the state, any state, wants to interfere, I don't get. It is time to honor consenting adults right to have the relationship they choose. Note I said consenting adults, not children, animals or inanimate objects- before some jackass infers something sick.Â
One guy and four women bleeding........... Not for me, more power to ya.Â
 @Just my say Especially if they're on the same cycle!
 @Just my say That was a little beyond the pale......
You can't keep one woman happy, why the heck would you want to try to keep 4 of em happy?
 @BlueJedi I think what he's concerned about keeping happy is not connected to any of the wives... But they're all adults and doing what they want.Â
@BlueJedi Your absolutly right
 @BlueJedi I am a woman and I agree. Hey, if he wants it, more power to him, he will need it. lol
What I can't understand is why ANY woman would marry him! He's a freak all unto himself!
I want to know when it's legal to have more than one husband, but only if they are as wonderful as mine!
 @Ma_Kettle I am not sure you can strike gold twice.
One wife is enough..... Could not imagine 4 of them....
geez leave them alone already....if we can allow homosexuals to marry then why can't a guy marry several women? Â
 @Peregrine I totally agree. I also think prostitution should be legal......as long as everyone is a consenting adult, who cares?
Why does Utah care? Still not understanding this? Are they officially married by the state?
 @sometimesright Kody and Merri are the only 2 legally married anywhere. The rest are just along for the ride
 @BlueJedi So then how is this any different than a co-ed dorm room at a college or some free love compound? Not sure why Utah would even give them the time of day? I guess for legal purposes I can understand if he drew up legal marriage documents and filed them with the state for each woman, but if it is nothing more than a glorified free love thing, then to each their own. Doesn't Shawn Kemp have about 10 kids from a bunch of different women? How is that any different?
There is only one thats half way cute...I'm sure thats the one he spends the most "quality" time with. :D
 @NoCoothJoe Wow...that was pretty shallow!Â
 @sometimesright Give him a break, did you notice his moniker? At least he is honest up front. :)Â
 @Melissa Angevine  @sometimesright He can't even spell couth right, LOL!