Pot legalization no free ride to smoke on campus

SPOKANE, Wash. (AP) - Young voters helped pass laws legalizing marijuana in Washington and Colorado, but many still won't be able to light up.
Most universities have codes of conduct banning marijuana use, and they get millions of dollars in funding from the federal government, which still considers pot illegal.
With the money comes a requirement for a drug-free campus, and the threat of expulsion for students using pot in the dorms.
"Everything we've seen is that nothing changes for us," said Darin Watkins, a spokesman for Washington State University in Pullman.
So despite college cultures that include pot-smoking demonstrations each year on April 20, students who want to use marijuana will have to do so off campus.
"The first thing you think of when you think of legalized marijuana is college students smoking it," said Anna Marum, a Washington State senior from Kelso, Wash. "It's ironic that all 21-year-olds in Washington can smoke marijuana except for college students."
Voters in November made Washington and Colorado the first states to allow adults over 21 to possess up to an ounce of marijuana, and exit polling showed both measures had significant support from younger people. Taxes could bring the states, which can set up licensing schemes for pot growers, processors and retail stores, tens or hundreds of millions of dollars a year, financial analysts say.
But the laws are fraught with complications, especially at places like college campuses. At Washington State, students who violate the code face a variety of punishments, up to expulsion, Watkins said. The same is true at the University of Colorado Boulder, where the student code of conduct prohibits possessing, cultivating or consuming illegal drugs.
"If you possess marijuana and are over 21, you still may face discipline under the student code of conduct," Huff said.
Gary Gasseling, deputy chief of the Eastern Washington University police department, said that while they await guidance from the state Liquor Control Board, which is creating rules to govern pot, one thing is clear.
"The drug-free environment is going to remain in place," he said.
Even if conduct codes did not exist, marijuana remains illegal under federal law, another key reason that campuses will remain cannabis-free.
The Drug Free Schools and Communities Act requires that any university receiving federal funds adopt a program to prevent use of illicit drugs by students and employees, much in the same way other federal funding for law enforcement and transportation comes with clauses stipulating that recipients maintain drug-free workplaces.
Washington State, for instance, receives millions in federal research funds each year, which prohibits them from allowing substances illegal under federal law on campus.
College dormitory contracts also tend to prohibit possession of drugs, officials said. Dorms and other campus buildings also tend to be smoke-free zones, which would block the smoking of marijuana, officials said.
At Eastern Washington, there is a student-led movement to ban smoking even outside across the entire campus, Gasseling said.
In addition, NCAA rules prohibit student-athletes from consuming marijuana or other illegal drugs.
With all these complications, it is reasonable to expect that some students will be confused by the new laws.
"Some type of communication is going to come out from the university to clarify this," said Angie Weiss, student lobbyist for the Associated Students of the University of Washington.
Derrick Skaug, student body vice president at Washington State, said he believes most students will understand they cannot consume marijuana on campus.
"I don't see it likely that people will be smoking marijuana while walking around campus," Skaug said. "Most people do understand that just because it is no longer banned by state law, it doesn't amount to a get-out-of-jail-free pass."
Skaug acknowledged that some students might feel they should be allowed to consume marijuana on campus if it is legal everywhere else.
"It may be something worth starting a discussion on," Skaug said. "But there are a lot of issues that need to be addressed."
Colleges in Washington already dealt with this issue in 1998 when the state approved the use of medical marijuana, which was also banned on campus, Watkins said.
Students who wanted to use marijuana for medical reasons had to live off-campus, and Washington State waived its requirement that all freshmen had to live in dorms to accommodate them, Watkins said.
Of course, pot has been illegally used on college campuses for decades, and students for decades have been getting busted for possession.
Marum said that many Washington State students who have medical marijuana cards are allowed by their residence hall advisers to consume marijuana brownies, even though the drug is banned on campus.
"People in dorms now who want to smoke, they do it," Marum said. "I do think more people will be smoking in the dorms when marijuana is legal for use."
One thing that will change: Some off-campus police departments have said they will no longer arrest or ticket students who are 21 and older and using marijuana.
In Boulder and Seattle, prosecutors have said they will not prosecute criminal marijuana cases for less than an ounce for people age 21 and over.
Huff said University of Colorado police will no longer ticket people who are legal under state law to possess marijuana.
Most universities have codes of conduct banning marijuana use, and they get millions of dollars in funding from the federal government, which still considers pot illegal.
With the money comes a requirement for a drug-free campus, and the threat of expulsion for students using pot in the dorms.
"Everything we've seen is that nothing changes for us," said Darin Watkins, a spokesman for Washington State University in Pullman.
So despite college cultures that include pot-smoking demonstrations each year on April 20, students who want to use marijuana will have to do so off campus.
"The first thing you think of when you think of legalized marijuana is college students smoking it," said Anna Marum, a Washington State senior from Kelso, Wash. "It's ironic that all 21-year-olds in Washington can smoke marijuana except for college students."
Voters in November made Washington and Colorado the first states to allow adults over 21 to possess up to an ounce of marijuana, and exit polling showed both measures had significant support from younger people. Taxes could bring the states, which can set up licensing schemes for pot growers, processors and retail stores, tens or hundreds of millions of dollars a year, financial analysts say.
But the laws are fraught with complications, especially at places like college campuses. At Washington State, students who violate the code face a variety of punishments, up to expulsion, Watkins said. The same is true at the University of Colorado Boulder, where the student code of conduct prohibits possessing, cultivating or consuming illegal drugs.
"If you possess marijuana and are over 21, you still may face discipline under the student code of conduct," Huff said.
Gary Gasseling, deputy chief of the Eastern Washington University police department, said that while they await guidance from the state Liquor Control Board, which is creating rules to govern pot, one thing is clear.
"The drug-free environment is going to remain in place," he said.
Even if conduct codes did not exist, marijuana remains illegal under federal law, another key reason that campuses will remain cannabis-free.
The Drug Free Schools and Communities Act requires that any university receiving federal funds adopt a program to prevent use of illicit drugs by students and employees, much in the same way other federal funding for law enforcement and transportation comes with clauses stipulating that recipients maintain drug-free workplaces.
Washington State, for instance, receives millions in federal research funds each year, which prohibits them from allowing substances illegal under federal law on campus.
College dormitory contracts also tend to prohibit possession of drugs, officials said. Dorms and other campus buildings also tend to be smoke-free zones, which would block the smoking of marijuana, officials said.
At Eastern Washington, there is a student-led movement to ban smoking even outside across the entire campus, Gasseling said.
In addition, NCAA rules prohibit student-athletes from consuming marijuana or other illegal drugs.
With all these complications, it is reasonable to expect that some students will be confused by the new laws.
"Some type of communication is going to come out from the university to clarify this," said Angie Weiss, student lobbyist for the Associated Students of the University of Washington.
Derrick Skaug, student body vice president at Washington State, said he believes most students will understand they cannot consume marijuana on campus.
"I don't see it likely that people will be smoking marijuana while walking around campus," Skaug said. "Most people do understand that just because it is no longer banned by state law, it doesn't amount to a get-out-of-jail-free pass."
Skaug acknowledged that some students might feel they should be allowed to consume marijuana on campus if it is legal everywhere else.
"It may be something worth starting a discussion on," Skaug said. "But there are a lot of issues that need to be addressed."
Colleges in Washington already dealt with this issue in 1998 when the state approved the use of medical marijuana, which was also banned on campus, Watkins said.
Students who wanted to use marijuana for medical reasons had to live off-campus, and Washington State waived its requirement that all freshmen had to live in dorms to accommodate them, Watkins said.
Of course, pot has been illegally used on college campuses for decades, and students for decades have been getting busted for possession.
Marum said that many Washington State students who have medical marijuana cards are allowed by their residence hall advisers to consume marijuana brownies, even though the drug is banned on campus.
"People in dorms now who want to smoke, they do it," Marum said. "I do think more people will be smoking in the dorms when marijuana is legal for use."
One thing that will change: Some off-campus police departments have said they will no longer arrest or ticket students who are 21 and older and using marijuana.
In Boulder and Seattle, prosecutors have said they will not prosecute criminal marijuana cases for less than an ounce for people age 21 and over.
Huff said University of Colorado police will no longer ticket people who are legal under state law to possess marijuana.
People need to do their own research on marijuana, not just blindly listening to the government or authorities.
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@Fisherman Kids have been smoking pot and dropping much more dangerous drugs on campuses for four-and-a-half decades that I personally know of, and yet the teaching institutions seem to have survived. Obviously you do have a clue what you are talking about.
The major difference is that whereas other drugs pretty routinely KILL students in dorm rooms due to drug overdose or simply alcohol poisoning, I cannot think of even ONE case where anyone has died of cannabis overdose! If students are going to do any drugs at all, I would sure feel better if they felt free to use stinky old cannabis in favor of more easily concealed meth, crack cocaine, PCP, MDMA, oxycotin, heroin, etc. - or chugging a bottle of vodka!
Is it illegal to drink on campus if your over 21? I would imagine that whatever bylaws are in force would apply but could be challenged in the same way... I'd push for strick conduct on my campus but I have a daughter going right now. I know that after Dec 6th I can leave my garage door open for my "safety meetings"... :-)
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Pass the orios please...
 @teahater Ouch.
Most people just don't understand teenagers. They will smoke it in part because it's illegal, they want to push the limits, they are becoming adults and they are away from their parents for the first time. Also, they are in the age of discovering the world and themselves. Many older people was just like that when they were that age, but they conveniently forgot about it..
I think they should just print a booklet of all the rules and regulations imposed by federal, state, and state universities since there are rules and regulations that counteract each other and then perhaps when someone has the time to figure it all out they will know if they are breaking a law or not. This also is a BIG money issue. They want the tax money, but only if the people paying all the tax money do not have any rights left when all is said and done. For every rule there are also exceptions, perhaps those could also be listed in the booklet.
 @Jatok They do print such a booklet: each copy used to be called a national forest.
@JLS1950 I don't think they printed this book yet, because the law was just passed. Perhaps they could use an ebook or something. The bottom line is that they are passing so many laws you never know when you might be breaking one you didn't even know about. Last year alone they passed 42,000 new ones in this country.
and lets not fool ourselves here either. Most college students aren't even 21, so the vast majority shouldn't be smoking either way...or drinking and falling off balconies. :)
Can you smoke it walking down the street or outside of a bar now that it is going to be legal??????
@rainiervalley60skid You can't do that with alcohol either (for some reason the law is like that). I'd say smoke in private. There is one caveat, since as far as I know there won't be "marijuana bars", so it's not clear to me where is people supposed to smoke when not at home.
Oh good..I hope they enforce this. There are plenty of places to smoke pot...they don't need to do it on campus.
@Aep What exactly is the problem of smoking on campus? This has happened forever, presidents of the united states did it when they were in college... Let's stop the hypocrisy.
"At Eastern Washington, there is a student-led movement to ban smoking even outside across the entire campus, Gasseling said." What if the president of the United States of America wants to visit Eastern Washington? Is he out of luck?
Not surprised in the least, I would actually expect this. I personally support no pot on campus, I would also support no alcohol on campus too.Â
Everyone freak out!
I noticed that a lot of young pot smokers now think that just because its legal now that they can smoke it anywhere they want. It was nice to see SPD finally chasing them out of Westlake Park yesterday. Don't get me wrong here..I actually voted for legalizing it but it doesn't mean I want people blazing up bowls of herb in place like public parks either. The stuff stinks and I don't want the smell of it all over my BUSINESS attire when I head back up from lunch. Go get stoned in the back alley kids.
 @I Like Meat It's supposed to be smoked at home and not in the open...... good grief. It's apparent some want to test the waters.... Hopefully officers will confiscate their smoking devices, seize their illegal weed and issue citations for public intoxication. There's no legal weed to purchase whatsoever unless they're MMC holders.
I don't get why this is so surprising--I mean at UW smoking cigarettes is (pretty much) banned on campus and that's legal...
 @Hermione It's not surprising at all to most people. It's just something to get everyone all riled up about in the media.
Funny for not being allowed there sure is a lot of it there,  good luck with that.  It is still illegal in other states but I guarantee there is pot in everyone of those states.  And as far as the Feds they get the power from use we don't get it from them.  Someone needs to remind them of this.
Substance use and or abuse (tobacco, booze, pot, harder drugs) is still a destructive issue for any society and to glorify it or expect it to be allowed on campuses is patently absurd.Â
 @Citizen#3457899654 How exactly is cannabis destructive?Â
Here comes the law suits from all the pot heads. Great.
 @godawgs That's ridiculous. There will be no such lawsuits because there is nothing to sue about.Â
@Sovereign I was being sarcastic
This is terrible news for WSU....