'Isolation box:' Abuse or therapy for Longview school kids?
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LONGVIEW, Wash. -- Longview Public Schools administrators call it an "isolation booth" and photos of it are creating a Facebook firestorm.
Some parents say they're worried kids are being abused when they're locked inside it at school.
The isolation booth has been at Mint Valley Elementary School for the past four years. That's because the school hosts a special education program for disabled students with behavioral issues. The booth is used to calm down some of the students when they're at risk of hurting themselves or others.
Just hours after they were posted, photos of the isolation booth were shared on Facebook about 100 times.
The pictures show that from the outside, the booth is located in a storage area and has two peepholes at different heights. Inside, students can sit on the floor of the small padded room, and the ceiling has air holes for ventilation.
The original Facebook poster, Ana Bate, a Longview mother, criticized its use as abusive, arguing children are locked in for crying or tapping on their desks.
Comments echoed by other Facebook posters like Darren Pirtle asked "seriously ... have the police been notified that this is being used??"
Marcy Brinkerhoff-Hogg wrote, "that is terrible and should NEVER be used regardless if the child is out of control or not."
And Jena Raelyn Brown suggested, writing in all capital letters: "if a parent did that at home they would get put in jail!!!"
Bate, whose 10-year-old son is not in the special education program, told KATU News late Tuesday night that her son told her he saw several kids go in the box.
In one instance, a female aide came up behind a boy, picked him up off the floor and dropped him into the isolation box, she said. He landed on the floor and cried the entire time. In another instance a boy, who was placed inside the box for lifting up a desk, became violent while he was inside.
"My question for the school district is how is that therapeutic if not directly opposite from this supposed reinforcement they'd like everybody to believe it to be?" she said. "If they are being paid to lock people up, get extra education and work in mental health or psychiatric units, not with children that have minds that need to be explored, need to be expanded, that need to feel safe."
But the district does not think it is abusive.
"People have their own opinions without having a lot of the information about it. I would not classify it as abusive," said Sandy Catt, director of communications for Longview Public Schools.
Catt said the isolation booth is designed as therapy for children needing to calm down.
Of the 6,500 students in the Longview School District, only eight or nine are allowed to go inside, and that's because the school has permission from their parents.
"It is concerning to us that there may not be a complete understanding of the situation," Catt said.
She said some of the eight or nine kids voluntarily go inside the booth for a break from stimulation. She added when the door is locked a school staff member is outside, monitoring what happens.
Catt said the school district had never received a complaint about the isolation booth until Tuesday, and still, none of those complaints has come from parents whose students went inside.
And for those parents who object, their students would never be placed inside because the district requires parent permission. Bate told KATU News she questions parents who agree to let their kids go inside the box.
Some parents say they're worried kids are being abused when they're locked inside it at school.
The isolation booth has been at Mint Valley Elementary School for the past four years. That's because the school hosts a special education program for disabled students with behavioral issues. The booth is used to calm down some of the students when they're at risk of hurting themselves or others.
Just hours after they were posted, photos of the isolation booth were shared on Facebook about 100 times.
The pictures show that from the outside, the booth is located in a storage area and has two peepholes at different heights. Inside, students can sit on the floor of the small padded room, and the ceiling has air holes for ventilation.
The original Facebook poster, Ana Bate, a Longview mother, criticized its use as abusive, arguing children are locked in for crying or tapping on their desks.
Comments echoed by other Facebook posters like Darren Pirtle asked "seriously ... have the police been notified that this is being used??"
Marcy Brinkerhoff-Hogg wrote, "that is terrible and should NEVER be used regardless if the child is out of control or not."
And Jena Raelyn Brown suggested, writing in all capital letters: "if a parent did that at home they would get put in jail!!!"
Bate, whose 10-year-old son is not in the special education program, told KATU News late Tuesday night that her son told her he saw several kids go in the box.
In one instance, a female aide came up behind a boy, picked him up off the floor and dropped him into the isolation box, she said. He landed on the floor and cried the entire time. In another instance a boy, who was placed inside the box for lifting up a desk, became violent while he was inside.
"My question for the school district is how is that therapeutic if not directly opposite from this supposed reinforcement they'd like everybody to believe it to be?" she said. "If they are being paid to lock people up, get extra education and work in mental health or psychiatric units, not with children that have minds that need to be explored, need to be expanded, that need to feel safe."
But the district does not think it is abusive.
"People have their own opinions without having a lot of the information about it. I would not classify it as abusive," said Sandy Catt, director of communications for Longview Public Schools.
Catt said the isolation booth is designed as therapy for children needing to calm down.
Of the 6,500 students in the Longview School District, only eight or nine are allowed to go inside, and that's because the school has permission from their parents.
"It is concerning to us that there may not be a complete understanding of the situation," Catt said.
She said some of the eight or nine kids voluntarily go inside the booth for a break from stimulation. She added when the door is locked a school staff member is outside, monitoring what happens.
Catt said the school district had never received a complaint about the isolation booth until Tuesday, and still, none of those complaints has come from parents whose students went inside.
And for those parents who object, their students would never be placed inside because the district requires parent permission. Bate told KATU News she questions parents who agree to let their kids go inside the box.
I work in healthcare: Â mental health. Â The "parents" who (allegedly) "allow" their children to be placed in this "chamber" ought to be psychologically examined themselves. Â Perhaps it is a quick fix for the parents (and teachers); it seems to me they simply do not care enough to get the kids the help they need in order to keep them out of "the box." Â If a child is a danger to him/her self or others, they need to be in another facility - one where people are trained to deal with these situations. Â We have a similar "isolation room" where I work: Â in a very well known mental healthcare facility. Â Our isolation booth is rarely used, and no, not because we drug the patients. Â There are other ways to calm people down and we take the time to do it. Â I hope and pray the recent media exposure leads to an end to this barbaric (and I think, illegal) practice. Â As for the Longview school district's administrator's position that this imprisonment of children "is not abusive" . . . Â well, you need to get another job - one that does not involve making decisions about or caring for people. Â Your heart is made of cardboard and you have no place looking after the welfare of innocent children, special needs or otherwise. Â I'm surprised Longview School District has not yet been sued over this issue: Â I look forward to hearing of a lawsuit - but only if that is what it takes to stop this heinous abuse. Â Â Â
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I work for a City School system.. I will say one thing... We treat our animals better and they have better laws to protect them.. I home schooled my children.. I am so happy I did so.. My first born was not so lucky,, but we learn from our mistaks and my last three have not seen public schools.. Want to know what a Principa told me when I said I was gonna Homeschool. she said, You can't do that.. Well I proved her wrong.. I will not have a Government school tell me how to raise my children.. I am a Bus Driver.. I have many children with behavioral problems on my bus.. Guess what... I talk to them and treat them like human beings.. I find out their problem,, usually with the Teacher,, or home,, then I tell them this bus is different from these places.. We all get along,, we have fun (without breaking safety codes of course) and if we do these things.. we all have respect and love... I don't tell them in such a diplomatic way.. I do it for the handicap kids in a more understanding way for them.. But we all get the picture.. I tell them No one on my bus will disrespect or degrade them.. I have good kids.. Some that I have been told ,,have bit, spit, and cussed out the teachers to the hilt.. Guess what.. I have never seen this behavior Nor will I ever... Want to know why.. Cause I respect them and in return they respect me.. I listen.. when has an adult really listened to a child.. I figured it out.. It is time for all of us to listen..... Good luck to all the people in this school district... I will be praying for you and your children.. and NO this is NOT Right.. Thank you.
So, what if a parent has such a "time out" room in their home? Â If a school has this, I am guessing a parent of a special needs child can as well.
I don't see a problem with it IF there are strict guidelines in place as to how and when the room is to be used. When I worked in special ed, there were two incredibly violent children in my class. They were both a serious danger to themselves and others at times. During these times it would have been nice to have a safe place for cooling off. The room, however, should be placed inside of a room where an adult is always present and able to see and hear the child. It should never ever be used for situations other than those that could result in danger to others.
I suspect that there may have been some type of grant money to have paid for this booth but I don't think that is a good way to deal with problems on all children. Certainly there are some who might benefit if a sound system were included to calm someone down but for many kids, a study in Minn showed that teaching the martial arts which included things like meditation and learning self control and respect for others worked to change the behavior of juvenile delinquents as well as those with ADD. Using "one size fits all" does not work when dealing with adults or children.
If a parent put their kid in a bedroom with the door locked it would be abuse no matter the situation. If they put the kid in a closet and locked the door they would be in jail for a very long time. If these children are that violent then they need to be in a hospital not at school. I have a child with behavior problems, and if the school had one of these I would NEVER send my kids there, no matter what issues they had. If students at the school have that many problems then they should not be around other students for fear of assault.Â
 @Pheonix Ross Amen, brother.  I agree with you, 100%.  As a professional healthcare provider (mental health) you hit the nail right on the head:  If these children are so violent they need to be locked away, THEY ARE IN THE WRONG INSTITUTION IN THE FIRST PLACE. Â
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I'd bet my Christmas stocking .the almighty dollar is involved. Â The district doubtless receives "extra funding" for hosting this program for "special needs students." Â Funding which is clearly being misused.
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 @Pheonix Ross I don't particularly agree with the comment of having children in a locked bedroom would be abuse "no matter the situation". My son would get out of bed when he was three and roam the house in the middle of the night and his doctor flat out told me to put a lock outside his bedroom door and lock it at night to keep him from any harm that could come from a midnight roam ie: falling down the stairs, getting knives from the kitchen, scissors and so forth. I don't necessarily agree with this whole "put em in a box" thing and I would not allow it for my children but I also don't have any potentially violent special needs children either so I don't know what that could entail from day to day and to what lengths people would have to go to in order to keep those children safe.Â
These kids have serious behavior issues and they can be a danger to themselves and others. The parents of these children allow this as at times it is the ONLY way to have the child calm themself down. I have a very close friend who has worked over 20 years in the behavior disorderly class and has repeatedly gotten hurt from these 'sweet angels'; injuries that have required surgery as well as stiches for other injuries and yet day after day they go back in hopes of enjoying success with these kids that they do actually care about. These kids eventually learn that when they are feeling agitated sometimes its better to go somewhere without stimulation and get back in control...a huge accomplishment. Unless you have ever dealt with this type of child you have no clue exactly how frightening it can be. The ultimate goal is to manstream these kids after they learn self control...if you have never experienced the rage judgment should not be made. The teachers as well as other students have the right to be safe just as everyone else is...some schools use five point harnesses on the school bus when transporting violent out of control kids for the same reason...safety.Â
Has it really come to this? Even time out is too abusive for these parents little angels?
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If parents can't raise their children to be respectful of others and not lash out at teachers and students then maybe it is up to the school to do something about it.
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Throw the kid in the room, smack him on the butt a few times, put him in the corner with a dunce hat... All of those are better than looking the other way.
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Your kids aren't perfect angels, your all just mad about this because well, "How could my baby do anything that deserves this? Impossible I say! You're being abusive!"
 @AndySue28 Hi Andy, Please read up on this topic.  Many parents ARE struggling with their children's behaviors too.  These children do not have "behavior problems" because nobody taught them respect and to keep their hands to themselves.  They have REAL DISABILITIES!  If you really get to know these parents they don't think their kids are "perfect angels."  I hear parents who are struggling to get their child's needs met and some are very lost.  Children don't come with a how to book, and neither do children with special needs.  Parents are trying to do the best they can with the skills and means they have access to. Â
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As a behavior analysts there are many many more effective and ethical ways to handle behavior than to "Throw the kid in the room, smack him on the butt a few times, put him in the corner with a dunce hat."  First of all these are teaching - don't be bad.  They don't teach them what they should be doing instead.  In general, people when people are punished for a behavior it may decrease, but a new behavior will arise.  If it is not carefully taught and practiced, it could be something just as bad or worse the the "bad behavior."  For example, I decreased hitting with a time out room, but now he is biting me.  Then when biting was not effective he starting throwing things at my head.  Instead, I go in and look at the function of the behavior.  Is he doing to it gain access to something (an item or attention), to escape demands or sensory overload, or is it a self stimulatory behavior (reinforcement that comes within yourself).  We teach different things for each function.  If a child bites to get me to leave him a lone, I would teach "break please."  I would not allow biting to get his needs met.  The the child will learn, if I want the demands to stop/teacher to go away then I ask for a break.  The new behavior should be EASIER than biting and more effective than biting. Â
The Monroe School district tried to get me to sign my son (1st grade) into this sort of 1/2 day program, because he would drop his pencil on the floor (bored) and disrupt class. Â After looking over the "program" and learning that K-5 were together, many kids were had anger control problems or had been in trouble with the law, AND the teacher could NOT search kids backpacks for weapons because it violated the kids rights - I chose to NOT allow my son who has Asperger's Syndrome to be in this program. Â Washington schools are the worse I have seen - unless you are a doctor-lawyer or in the money to pay taxes for expensive housing. Â That is one reason I Â moved out of state. They fail children in so many ways.Â
I pulled my child out of a western WA school district last year for throwing my  disabled child in this box. When I moved to the district, they did not ever say I had a choice. It was presented as "this is our policy and it is a last resort." One day my son came home from school with open blisters on his wrists from banging on the unpadded (in our case) walls of the box for hours. They were using the room frequently, not as a last resort ,and for much longer periods of time than they originally said is protocol. Before they woud put him in the room, they would hold him down and forcibly remove his shoes and belt. On several occasions his pants fell completely down exposing him to his classmates and making an already traumatizing situation that much worse for a boy who was acting out in fear. I felt so helpless, so I removed him from school and home schooled him until we could move to another district. Our new district has the same type of room, but I have denied permission for them to use it.Â
The general public has no idea how often students with disabilities are abused by teachers and administrators using aversive interventions like an "isolation room" as an excuse to "modify behavior". If the KOMO reporter would have dug a little bit deeper into this story, he would have discovered that the use of aversive interventions in Washington State public elementary schools is at an all time high, with record numbers of complaints filed with the Office of the Education Ombudsman and OSPI. Here's the WAC that governs aversive interventions: http://apps.leg.wa.gov/wac/default.aspx?cite=392-172A-03120.
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As a comparison, Washington State Rehabilitation Institutions that care for some of the hardest to serve people with developmental disabilities who come with very difficult behaviors, no longer use aversive interventions, as the results show - they don't work, escalate behavior and lead to post traumatic stress disorder and other significant mental health issues.
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I've often wondered if a remedy to this level of abuse is as easy as giving the teachers and administrators a dose of their own medicine. Not many adults I know could handle this level of torture, let alone a student considered to be the most vulnerable.
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It is shameful that our state continues to allow this level of abuse at the tax payers expense.
That is a Jail Cell. That is not the same as sending your kid to their room as a time out with all their toys and bed to clam down. If anyone used that box in their house, Child Protective Services would arrest your ass and take your kids away.
If someone placed my child in that box, I'd beat them to a freakin' pulp... no question
They have one of these at Woodridge Elementary School in Bellevue WA as well. It is in the classroom for children with behavioral issues. They are in many of the elementary schools throughout the state, and have been in place for over 10 years now.
As a borderline claustrophobic all my life, this would have not "calmed" me down one bit...
And Jena Raelyn Brown suggested, writing in all capital letters: "if a parent did that at home they would get put in jail!!!"
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it's called sending your child to their room.
the children that are getting babied relentlessly by their parents are going to grow up to be soft and spineless.
@Rachel Bellah It most certainly IS illegal to LOCK a child in a room for hours on end, and there is quite a lot of territory between spoiling and imprisonment.
Let's get this straight -- many parents do NOT consent to have their child placed in a seclusion room. What they are consenting to is allowing the school to use aversive strategies to calm the child, manage the situation, and keep the student and others safe. Schools don't publicly advertise that they have a seclusion room, and want to use it with YOUR child.
@A Carr Ours is on 4 feet from the main hallway. It's no secret in my building. It's simply an empty office with a door with a large window, no lock.
There are surely times when room like this are used inappropriately.
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However, when it takes 3 people to safely restrain an 8 year old, and, it takes them 1-2 hours to DE-escalate--
AND--- all of the adults have been trained in proper DE-escalation tactics-- what next?
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Some kids would be much better served in a therapeutic setting outside of the traditional school environment..
But, if the school district says those words, they have to PAY for the therapeutic setting. So, they don't, and they won't.
Everyone wants a big, happy-- feel good place where all kids are included in every way.
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Sadly, that's not realistic--
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@WA State Mom You nailed it! I am a teacher. I love to teach. I love to help kids learn. When 1 child with major emotional and mental health issues takes over the lions share of the counselor, principal and special educatioin teachers on a daily basis than the child needs a different setting for their good and the good of the whole but............as a school district we can't say that, we have to pay if we do so there ya go. Kids in places they can't be successful pulling resources from the 99% of kids that can be successful in a traditional school. Very sad. :-(
 @Lovetoteach  @WA I agree-- and, it is completely sad. Sad for everyone. Sad for the Gen. Ed. kids-- Sad for the Sped. kids--- Sad for the Sped. kids' parents-- Sad for the teachers and admin.Â
Everyone wishes it weren't so--- but, kids with Emotional and behavior disorders are sometimes so out of control that they hold an entire building hostage. That's not right-- and, it is a terrible message to them as well.
Some of these kiddos are autistic, some are from backgrounds of unimaginable hell, some are just kids from regular families who end up having EBD or BD issues.Â
There are probably better ways to deal with and prevent the behaviors---- but, when you already have 4-6 kids + 1 teacher, 1-2 aids plus the part time counselor that's nearly a full time ratio of 1 adult to 2 kids.
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I'm really not sure what else PUBLIC education is supposed to do.
And no, the special ed. funding generated by 4-6 kids does not BEGIN to pay for all of those adults in the classroom--
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What else should be done in PUBLIC education.
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And, before someone tells me, "they should be better trained-- if they just got the (magical) training they needed, these behaviors wouldn't happen to begin with"...I call BS on that--
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Even the BEST therapeutic centers have explosive kids and their training (in dealing with explosive, abusive, out-of control kids) isn't preventing the escalation.
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 @Shabadoo  @Lovetoteach I'm not sure if you mean me (WA State Mom) or "Lovetoteach" but, if you mean me-- there is another poster with a name very similar to mine~ I agree with her sometimes and disagree other times--- but, sometimes I think I'm reading my own posts and think, "WHAT?"-- then, I realize it isn't me!
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 @WA State Mom  @Lovetoteach I could have sworn I used to disagree with most of your comments, or maybe I had you confused with someone else. Because I find myself agreeing with you across numerous articles, primarily because you actually take the time to put some logic into your posts rather than just judging everything with emotions.
I teach across from a Intensive Special Education program classroom grades 2nd to 5th. I think the average joe citizen would be surprised and shocked at what an out of control, autistic 75 lb. child can do. It is far more humane to let a child calm down in a safe room than flail, run, climb and terrorize an entire section of the school and literally bruise and and bite adults. These type spaces are used in very rare cases and with parent permission. Our calm down room is just an empty room with a window and door. An adult sits outside in view of the child at all times. It is used very, very rarely.
On the flipside I have reservations that children who are prone to be so out of control should be in a mainstream school. The level of disability is truly above the training of your average special education teacher and principal. This is a major source of stress for many teachers, we are not trained nor do we have the time in a busy classroom to help children who are in crisis or near crisis due to mental health concerns. It's a problem each year at my school with at least 1 or 2 children in our population of 500ish students.
therapy...just add water noodles & bubble wrap & a few xtra pissy kids...& you've got an anger management group on ur hands.Â
Oh please. We put people in padded cells all the time to protect them from themselves and others.
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In my youth, I got a well deserved hack in the boiler room from the VP. No one had consent from my parents, and when I got home, I got more of the same.
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Yes, it's apples and oranges, but the point is, it changed my behaviour. I was physically struck. These kids have their parents blessings for using 'the room'. It's NONE of your business!
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If yer that bunched up about it, you'd be better served protesting DSHS and trying to effect some change there.
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Passive agressive Seatlle at it's finest. You folks would whine if fabric softener was in quetsion.
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@bobalouie You don't know what you're talking about. I know two families whose autistic kids were put in these things AGAINST the parents will and NOT under the conditions the school claimed were the procedure: longer times, at the teacher's will rather than the students, door closed/locked.
It's all fun and games until it's your child. And when it's your child, your heart will break. I promise you that. And when your child does not have the descriptive words to tell you what has happened to him, for how long it occurred, and other significant details, it is awful. Our son continues weekly therapy to work through his PTSD brought on by our school district's seclusion, restraint, and the use of an illegal timeout room (yes, even timeout rooms have legal requirements that aren't followed). He was 7 and 8 at the time, and he is 9 and home schooled now because of the harm that they did. I don't know about other disabilities, but restraint and seclusion does NOT work with children with autism. In fact, it creates more sensory issues, confusion, and causes them to lose verbal, coping, and emotional skills. Shame on any district who continues this practice.Isolation boxes = seclusion room, scream room, time out room, closet. People need to be informed.
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This type of abuse is punishable in a court of law, and in fact, my mother is an attorney and has sent people to prison for lessor child abuse crimes than this. If we don't allow abuse of children in homes, then it should NOT be allowed in school's, by educators or administrators. Period.
 @A Carr Sadly, I am learning PTSD can be a very real side effect of these types of restraints.  PTSD is happening more often than I would have thought (seclusion rooms, restraint chairs, 4 men holding an 8 year old down, etc).  I also don't think there is a way to report this info and assess the lasting effects of seclusion rooms. Â
I don't know the stats but I would be interested in looking at the number of teachers the school has found to have abused/inappropriate used a procedure/broke the law actually are charged by the police.  I would exclude sexual cases.  Really look at how many school staff members are relocated, fired, or actual criminal charges.  Â
 @A Carr THANK YOU!
Unless you've worked with kids in that environment, you have no idea. I did for years and I was repeatedly hit, kicked, bit, and was hospitalized with an injury to the head. I completely see the need for it.Â
For kids with autism or certain special needs, it's actually one of the only things that calm them down.Â
 @nomad I have Asperger's Syndrome and I can you tell that if one my teachers had stuck me in a room like that I would not have calmed down. I would have panicked more. If you have a student that is being that violent call the parents and have them pick up their child from school.Â
@nomad What type of training and position did you have?
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@A Carr a degree in Early Childhood Education, a Behavior Specialist. Besides just book training, I'd been in the field for over 10 years when I started in Special Ed. On my last site there was a kid who was over 6 foot, 300 pounds and strong as heck. When he was upset he would follow you and try to knock you senseless if he could catch you. So loving and gentle when not upset, but sometimes he'd just lose it and it was like something switched in him.   He would also destroy the room and anything that he could get his hands on would become a weapon.Â
I'd like people to spend time in that environment, feel what it feels like to take a blow to the head, or have your skin scratched off or teeth sank in and then come back with all the just talk with them, just reason with them, just call their parents, etc.
Dark ages torture. American Civil Liberties should take on the school district. This is a violation of a person's rights.Â
that's messed up.
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For all those complaining, have they ever spent ANY time worked with "special needs" students? Highly doubtful.
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My Mom used to volunteer with the local school district as a paraeducator. No loinger, She was hit, slapped & in one case tackled by the students. They act out, sometimes in extremely physical ways. I recall a number of years ago where there was special ed teacher in Federal Way who was attacked by a student - he picked up his desk & hit her in the head with it. She no longer teaches, and names that incident as the reason why.
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Yes, I know we are supposed to be "inclusive" and try to "main stream" students as much as possible, but suometimes it simply is not possible, nor is it safe to do so - for either the students, the staff, or their peers.
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I am 100% behind the oidea of isolating a troubled/troubling student, but not certain that this is the best way to go. Most times, simply taking the student out of the situation is enough - either to a quiet corner in the classroom or into the hall. If more is rquired, it should be devised on a case-by-case basis, in coordination with their parents AND their medical care providers, and it needs to be included in tIEP's so it is authoriszed, approved & on record.
These would NOT be necessary if people knew what they were doing and how to appropriately handle kids they are used for! (Parent of two with Special needs and therapist.)
 @Diana Van Gorder Burke Schools only have so many resources. There are some children who require 2-3 adults to restrain them and calm them down. These are adults with other positions in the school being taken from their responsibilities and/or classrooms. Many of these children do not belong in mainstream schools, and it's not a teacher's responsibility to play therapist or security.
@Diana Van Gorder Burke Would be very easy to train educators, wouldn't it? Much cheaper than law suits.
I wish the Kent school district had one of those. Â That is exactly where my son needs to be when he acts out at school.
@Tim Lane The Kent School District does have behavior disorderly programs...call the district if he is eligible.
 @Tim Lane let's all agree we are glad we aren't Tim Lane's son
 @Tim Lane You should have to spend time in the box first to see how your react to it.Â