Bill regulating drones dies in state Legislature
SEATTLE (AP) - Despite having support from Democrats, Republicans, civil liberties advocates and those concerned over government intrusion, a measure regulating the use and purchases of drones by state agencies and local municipalities died in Olympia without getting a vote from any chamber.
Lawmakers said there wasn't enough time: At the House, the grappling over gun background checks ate up the clock before a voting deadline. In the Senate, a chair said proposed changes to the bill weren't ready in time to clear his committee.
But the bill also saw opposition from one of the most influential players in Olympia: The Boeing Co. The aerospace manufacturer, one of the largest employers in the state, argued the bill would hurt future jobs in the growing unmanned aerial vehicle industry.
"In our view, WA state House Bill 1771 did not provide a sufficiently thorough and thoughtful framework. Further, we believe that as the technology matures, best practices and new understanding will emerge, and that it would be counterproductive to rush into regulating this burgeoning industry," Boeing said in a statement.
A Boeing company, The Insitu Group, which has several operations along the Columbia River Gorge, employs about 800 employees making drones, spokeswoman Sue Bradley said.
One of their models, dubbed the ScanEagle, is currently in use by the U.S. Navy. The aircraft is 4-feet long and has a 10-foot wingspan. It can remain in the air for 15 hours, according to Boeing's site.
"The problem with the bill is that it would have essentially dampened our ability to manufacture products," said Larry Brown, who heads legislative matters at the International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers District 751. "This would have dampened the likelihood of using Washington as a manufacturing center for these."
The union didn't take an active position on the bill in Olympia, Brown said.
The proliferation of domestic drone use has kindled opposition across a wide spectrum.
Lawmakers in more than 30 states are looking at plans to restrict the use of drones over their skies amid concerns the vehicles could be exploited to spy on Americans. Concerns have increased since the Federal Aviation Administration began establishing safety standards for civilian drones, which are becoming increasingly affordable and small in size.
The city of Seattle abandoned its drone program after community protests in February. The city's police department had purchased two drones through a federal grant without consulting the city council.
"I'm willing to admit there are people who are criminals, but the majority of our citizens are law abiding people who value their privacy," said Democratic Sen. Maralyn Chase of Shoreline, who sponsored the Senate bill. "That's why you have to get a warrant to search somebody's house. We try to stay on the straight and narrow. That's why so many people are unhappy about spy planes."
In Olympia, the companion drone bills were sponsored by two politically different lawmakers. One a Democrat from the Puget Sound region. The other a Republican from central Washington.
"I think the bill frightened the industry folks who manufacture these," said Democratic Rep. Roger Goodman, chairman of the House Public Safety Committee which approved the bill on a 8-1 vote. "So they were very active in lobbying influential members of the democratic caucus."
Gov. Jay Inslee's spokeswoman Jamie Smith said the governor's office took no official position on the measure. But Goodman said he was approached by the governor's office with some concerns over job creation.
The bill would have mandated that law enforcement agencies obtain approval from their respective legislative government before buying a drone. The measure also would require law enforcement agencies to obtain criminal warrants before using the drones, with a few exceptions.
The measure called for deletion within 30 days of data gathered if no criminal activity is recorded. It requires erasing data collected from people who are not the target of a drone deployment within 24 hours. The state National Guard had been exempted from the restrictions.
The measure focused on state and local government drones and did not attempt to regulate private use. The Department of Natural Resources voiced concerns over the measure because it has been attempting to obtain FAA permission to fly drones during wildfire season this year.
It also had no authority over federal use of drones. At least one Homeland Security 10,000-pound drone already occasionally patrols the skies along the border in Eastern Washington.
"In terms of time, the Legislature needs to step up and show leadership and get out ahead of the technology instead of chasing behind it," said Shankar Narayan of the Washington chapter of the American Civil Liberties. "It's unfortunate now we'll have to wait another year. Not only is the technology proliferating, there are going to be more drones a year from now and the public has a lot of concerns. Those will go unaddressed for another year."
Lawmakers said there wasn't enough time: At the House, the grappling over gun background checks ate up the clock before a voting deadline. In the Senate, a chair said proposed changes to the bill weren't ready in time to clear his committee.
But the bill also saw opposition from one of the most influential players in Olympia: The Boeing Co. The aerospace manufacturer, one of the largest employers in the state, argued the bill would hurt future jobs in the growing unmanned aerial vehicle industry.
"In our view, WA state House Bill 1771 did not provide a sufficiently thorough and thoughtful framework. Further, we believe that as the technology matures, best practices and new understanding will emerge, and that it would be counterproductive to rush into regulating this burgeoning industry," Boeing said in a statement.
A Boeing company, The Insitu Group, which has several operations along the Columbia River Gorge, employs about 800 employees making drones, spokeswoman Sue Bradley said.
One of their models, dubbed the ScanEagle, is currently in use by the U.S. Navy. The aircraft is 4-feet long and has a 10-foot wingspan. It can remain in the air for 15 hours, according to Boeing's site.
"The problem with the bill is that it would have essentially dampened our ability to manufacture products," said Larry Brown, who heads legislative matters at the International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers District 751. "This would have dampened the likelihood of using Washington as a manufacturing center for these."
The union didn't take an active position on the bill in Olympia, Brown said.
The proliferation of domestic drone use has kindled opposition across a wide spectrum.
Lawmakers in more than 30 states are looking at plans to restrict the use of drones over their skies amid concerns the vehicles could be exploited to spy on Americans. Concerns have increased since the Federal Aviation Administration began establishing safety standards for civilian drones, which are becoming increasingly affordable and small in size.
The city of Seattle abandoned its drone program after community protests in February. The city's police department had purchased two drones through a federal grant without consulting the city council.
"I'm willing to admit there are people who are criminals, but the majority of our citizens are law abiding people who value their privacy," said Democratic Sen. Maralyn Chase of Shoreline, who sponsored the Senate bill. "That's why you have to get a warrant to search somebody's house. We try to stay on the straight and narrow. That's why so many people are unhappy about spy planes."
In Olympia, the companion drone bills were sponsored by two politically different lawmakers. One a Democrat from the Puget Sound region. The other a Republican from central Washington.
"I think the bill frightened the industry folks who manufacture these," said Democratic Rep. Roger Goodman, chairman of the House Public Safety Committee which approved the bill on a 8-1 vote. "So they were very active in lobbying influential members of the democratic caucus."
Gov. Jay Inslee's spokeswoman Jamie Smith said the governor's office took no official position on the measure. But Goodman said he was approached by the governor's office with some concerns over job creation.
The bill would have mandated that law enforcement agencies obtain approval from their respective legislative government before buying a drone. The measure also would require law enforcement agencies to obtain criminal warrants before using the drones, with a few exceptions.
The measure called for deletion within 30 days of data gathered if no criminal activity is recorded. It requires erasing data collected from people who are not the target of a drone deployment within 24 hours. The state National Guard had been exempted from the restrictions.
The measure focused on state and local government drones and did not attempt to regulate private use. The Department of Natural Resources voiced concerns over the measure because it has been attempting to obtain FAA permission to fly drones during wildfire season this year.
It also had no authority over federal use of drones. At least one Homeland Security 10,000-pound drone already occasionally patrols the skies along the border in Eastern Washington.
"In terms of time, the Legislature needs to step up and show leadership and get out ahead of the technology instead of chasing behind it," said Shankar Narayan of the Washington chapter of the American Civil Liberties. "It's unfortunate now we'll have to wait another year. Not only is the technology proliferating, there are going to be more drones a year from now and the public has a lot of concerns. Those will go unaddressed for another year."
Why are people so up in arms over drones being used for aerial observation but not helicopters that are currently used?  Why do we automatically assume that these will only be used to suppress law abiding citizens?  How many times cameras in businesses everywhere been used to prevent crime?  Do you worry about going into a store and being suppressed as  law abiding citizen.  I agree that there needs to be rules preventing abuse of police powers, but I tend to think that these "drones" will most likely be used to protect law abiding citizens from criminals and approve of them.  As we have seen from the "dash cams" in police cars, they can even be used to help keep our law enforcement entities in check. Â
I just don't understand why so many people are so afraid of change......
@H75 Really? Change? Change is what we got 5 years back. Now you should be able to understand why so many people are afraid of "change"
I don't see anything wrong with using drones for monitoring the boarders, monitoring the forest for forest fires, and monitoring the highways in remote areas where people may become stranded. ONLY. All other use must be approved by the courts, in this case airial observation warrants when unmanned aircraft are used.
Include in the legislature, the ability for manufacturers to conduct test flights, and limit the airspace for those test flights. Also, allow the military to use them for  training purposes.
Is it that hard to do?
It's easy to have a lot of support when no one will have to vote on it.
If the Democrats hadn't wasted so much time pushing for flawed legislation that would further erode our Second Amendment rights, they would have had time to address the issue of drones. We need to vote these so called lawmakers out of office. Of course, that would give them the right to go on unemployment compensation for the next two years at taxpayer expense.
I see, they are concerned with US jobs while lobbying for drones but unconcerned while building the 787. Guess who will get their way, they will fly them here and build them in Gambia.
Will wonders never cease! A bill that supports liberty was pushed aside for one supporting government control! WA state lawmakers are worthless. It was official a long time ago, so i'll skip the "it's official" addition.
When these spy drones start getting shot down, it will really push the gun control agenda forward.
In biology, A drone is a male bee, and they have no stinger.
In today's world, the concept of a drone has changed considerably and many ofÂ
THOSE drones do have stingers in that they can carry many types of missiles. Â
(Note, I am not stating that they carry the ground to air/air to air  "Stinger"Â
missiles, but they can carry many types of air to ground missiles.)
The drones that legislature failed to address are not supposed to be armed, butÂ
basically function like a spy satellite. but operate within the atmosphere of earthÂ
verses the vacuum of space. They were initially designed to supply our militaryÂ
with real time information regarding enemy movements.
When did we become the enemy that needed to be spied on???????????@pete1427 And everyone gave Bush a hard time. I think Obama is pushing it way further than he did.
@Thepriest @pete1427   They both are bed buddies.....
"When did we become the enemy that needed to be spied on???????????"
Excellent question....Ask Oby, that seems to be when it started on a major scale...
BS they are getting free money from certain groups in the Fed and are chicken to say no to these funds. Spineless in the willingness for growth without any quality of life concerns. Graveling for dollars. Oye mi much dolor de mI cabeza.
Oh great, we're broke as a country so they rob from the future to spy on us now. Â What are they so afraid of? Â Retaliation maybe, for destroying the United States because they could not do their jobs?
I have a great way of regulating drones. If you see one shoot it down. Â The government has no business using them to observe U.S. citizens.
@FBrumfield Boom, drone nap.
Drones have batteries don't they? Well, I wouldn't worry to much about boeing getting to many of them in the air for an extened length of time...
@EASTSIDE 1Â Depends on the model of drone. Â The ones that we are using in the middle east can loiter for the better part of a day.
They ought to ban the drones in D.C. and Olympia....
Those aren't drones... they are invertibrates...
"Lawmakers said there wasn't enough time" - that is (yet another) LIE
@libertygirl777Â Agreed, there is always enough time when freedom is concerned !!
More time wasting by the legislature , making bills that have no business coming to the floor. they better figure out what to do with that mess called the 520 bridge than worry about some non-existant threat from drones here at home. god this state can waste more money than i have ever seen anywhere !  get rid of every one of them and start over. And stop listening to the Chicken little ACLU. they have liberals peeing their pants all over the place.
We have to stop supporting Corporations that sell us out every time! Â We need to be smart consumers..we also need a new system that will give the people back their voices!! Â The people voted into office need to be released of their duties. Â They are not doing their job! Â Yet we are still paying them with our hard earned money. Â I am so tired of this type of thing being thrown in our faces like we are idiots!!
Holy crap this country is becoming a scary place.
@jowsuf  just stay in bed then, and play your video games.
@sportbuff01Â Wake up.
Its no big deal for Boeing since there manufacturing needs in the northwest will get smaller and smaller over time anyway...
Remember Boeing's stance on this next time they come for a government handout like a tax break. They'd rather have Americans be under constant surveillance from the skies than sacrifice a few jobs.