Investigation: Seattle schools literally crumbling around students
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SEATTLE -- The dried, brown grass crackles under each footstep. The laughs of young children sometimes drown it out. They dodge weeds nearly ankle high and bound over blades of grass that seem to only get moisture and attention when Mother Nature casts an eye downward.
That's because there have been few eyes on the former Wilson-Pacific High School in Seattle lately. Those eyes would see in a school in disrepair with serious safety concerns.
Wilson-Pacific isn't alone. In schools all around Seattle, the dark passage of time hides serious problems that district leaders have known about for years. In 2009, the district commissioned a major report that outlined deficiencies, dangers and priorities for each school. The Problem Solvers learned many of those issues haven't been fixed.
Standing outside Wilson-Pacific's home school resource center, Melissa Taft laughs lightly when asked about the condition of the building. It's more like a laugh of pity.
"Looks like it's condemned? It does, doesn't it?" she said. Wilson-Pacific is home to a hodge-podge of small programs. Taft has seen the school continue to fall apart since her two children started. "Just not well-maintained at all," she said.
The Problem Solvers found that in many ways, the school has gone to seed -- literally. Dead grass and weeds are everywhere, while concrete is buckled and breaking.
Inside, the floor and ceiling are in disrepair. Asbestos warnings are plastered on many pipes. Electrical and phone lines are just dangling in the air. There's not much to look up to, either. Attempts to repair the banged up pipes and crumbling rain covers haven't gone well.
"But they're right next to old, rotting boards," Taft said.
The Problem Solvers showed parts of the video to Seattle Public Schools Superintendent Jose Banda. He said the issues at Wilson-Pacific and others are a concern and could seem dangerous.
"Potentially, yes," he said.
Banda joined the district earlier this year and says the $694.9 million February levy vote could revitalize schools like Wilson-Pacific and others. He fully admits the district has made mistakes with maintenance.
"I think that at one point in time in history of Seattle Public Schools, that may not have been something that was something that was done with due diligence," he said.
At Gatewood Elementary, thick moss is growing on the roof. The district was warned about it in 2009 and that the roof was "beginning to fail." Yet records provided by the district seem to indicate nothing has been done since.
At Arbor Heights Elementary, students have been warned not to drink out of pipes that are more than 50 years old. Records show there's no set timeline for a fix.
In the 2009, the tennis courts at Eckstein Middle School were said to be "in total disrepair" and "not usable." Nothing has changed since.
McGilvra Elementary had a big upgrade in 2010 with brand new synthetic turf. The rest of the school has essentially gone untouched. Records show that some doors are original and aren't compliant with the Americans with Disabilities Act. "Original" is the key word.
The heating and cooling system has been in operation since before World War I. It was installed 99 years ago and has "1913" stamped into the black iron on the side. The district's construction plan says they'll get around to replacing it at some point. There is no set date for ADA compliance, life safety repairs or fire sprinkler systems either.
Standing outside North Beach Middle School, Stacy Perdi shared her frustration with district planning and slow repair work.
"There's been some poor foresight on the Seattle school district's part," she said.
Perdi was shocked with the revelation that many of the schools we looked at have no fire sprinkler systems whatsoever.
"That's horrifying. That's horrifying," Perdi said.
The 2009 deficiency report called fire sprinklers a "condition five" priority -- an immediate concern district-wide. Instead, places like Wilson-Pacific and others got nothing. Perdi called it "scary."
"You just assume you're going to have fire sprinkler systems in place," she said.
But the Problem Solvers looked into the law. According to state fire codes, only major renovations or brand new school buildings require fire sprinklers. Nightclubs are treated differently. They have tougher rules than schools.
Tim Nogler is with the state building code council. He says after the deadly nightclub fire in Rhode Island in 2003, Washington passed a law requiring all existing clubs to go in and install sprinklers no matter how old the building. Schools were not a part of the law and requirements.
The district doesn't have to go put fire sprinklers into old buildings.
"Wow, that doesn't make any sense at all. Yeah. Why would that be more of a priority than our children?" Perdi said.
Nogler understands the frustration, saying, "I don't think that they're wrong. Obviously nightclubs are getting more attention."
Superintendent Jose Banda says putting in sprinklers and other fixes could actually do more harm than good.
"In old construction, you had a lot of materials that were used that were no longer allowed that potentially could be hazardous," he said.
Banda says he wants to install sprinklers in the schools but money has been the issue. He does not have a set timeline for the fixes. The district will likely raze some schools and completely start over, rather than fix individual problems.
Small comfort for parents like Perdi and Taft who have heard promises for years.
"It's subpar. It is," Taft said.
The ravages of time of have been the problem all along.
The levy spoken of here is called a "Maintenance and Operations" levy. Its primary purpose is supposed to be to provide education. Yes, administrative, maintenance, custodial workers and others also get paid from this levy, but that is not the main focus.
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If the buildings are in such disrepar I wonder if they've not passed any Capital Projects bonds recently. This is a separate funding source from the levy which helps school districts rebuild schools, refurbish major infrastructure system-wide (fire sprinkler systems, for instance), construct new schools and other similar projects.
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When buildings are in disrepair and no bonds are available, there are only a few choices left... either take the money away from the education aspect of the system (regardless of how bad it is), or do less maintenance.Â
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Either way, I'm glad I don't live in Seattle.
Okay I have friends that work as maintenance personnel for the Seattle schools, they make big bucks! and do almost no work, WHY then are these building falling apart, there is a budget to maintain them and if that isn't being done, heads should roll! Fire them all why is the maintenance supervisor not checking the work that we taxpayers are paying for?? This is just wrong. These workers are off work more than on and still get paid. WHO is watching how this money is being spent?
that is why I say "STOP paying for the school levies in (Seattle)Â
If Seattle property owners stop voting in the school levies,and paying "high" property taxes "in the city of seattle" then the seattle school district will have to come up with the funding in other ways.
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So let me get this straight. The way to solve under funding is to cut funding.
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So if you cut yourself shaving in the morning, do you cut off your own head as the solution?
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@Howard Beale @careyd It is pretty clear there is enough money just unwise management.
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I am stating a fact if you vote for your school levies and want higher property taxes,
you may never know where the money is going to in the Seattle School district because of the corruption in the School District.
Please again look at your statement from your taxes and see how much is going for the schools in Seattle.
King county people.
Please look at your property tax statement. It shows the amount of money that is taken out of your property taxes for the schools each year. If you pass the school levies.
As you continue to pass the school levies, property taxes continue to rise.
Do we really know where the money goes once levies have been passed
 @careyd I know where it goes... Outright theft, misplaced and misspent funds. Maria Goodloe- Johnson ring any bells?
@Funky-Munky @careyd her and others, many years ago we the taxpayers of the state were told if we voted for the lottery we would never have another school funding issue again
A certain amount of this decline in those schools is just the failure to do basic maintenance on the buildings as needed. In most cases these schools should have been upgraded or rebuilt over time, but now since there are so many of them it's going to be a financial nightmare.
Yep, Charter Schools passed and the further depletion of public funding for public schools will continue. Why on earth would voters approve more institutions when they can't even afford existing? Build more schools to fund is logical? These are the kinds of decisions that will further our own economic collapse.
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March 2, 2011, Seattle PI (WA) The Seattle school board voted unanimously Wednesday to fire Superintendent Maria Goodloe-Johnson over a $1.8 million financial scandal involving a district business development program⦠Since the board voted to fire Goodloe-Johnson without cause, she is entitled under her contract to severance pay of $264,000, a sum equal to one-year's salary. Also shown the door Wednesday was Don Kennedy, the district's Chief Financial and Operations Officer. Like Goodloe-Johnson, Kennedy, who came from South Carolina, was fired without cause, meaning he must be paid a severance of $87,000 -- half of his annual salary -- under the terms of his contract. School board members described the decision as a difficult one, yet necessary to restore the public and the board's trust in the school system and to change a management culture that bred an "atmosphere of fear and intimidation." Board members said it was important to act decisively and to refocus on the mission of serving children. "What has occurred -- the financial scandal, the cronyism, the obvious lack of transparency -- is an insult to the taxpayers of Seattle. You pay your property taxes, you obey the rules. Others should do the same," board vice president Michael DeBell said⦠Last week, the state Auditor's Office released a report saying Seattle Public Schools' small business development program had spent about $1.5 million for services with a "questionable public purpose" and $280,000 for services that were never providedâ¦
Epic fail all around. From the voters, to the parents, to the school system itself, to city of Seattle policy. Really there is no excuse for moss growing on a roof around here. Everyone knows its an issue, a simple program to control it is not as expensive and extends the life of the roof itself.
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It really is shameful across the board.
King county people.Â
Please look at your property tax statement. It shows the amount of money that is taken out of your property taxes for the schools each year. If you pass the school levies.Â
As you continue to pass the school levies, property taxes continue to rise.
Do we really know where the money goes once levies have been passed?
Why don't we plan to use a portion of the new marijuana tax money on the schools?
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Wait, I think Seattle City Hall needs a new table!
 @AndySue28 "We are using the Lotto... err I mean Mariju.. uhh, next question please."
Public schools are literally crumbling and YET, legislation passed to take from public schools and start up charter schools which - throughout the nation where this has been tried, there is NO indication charter schools do any better... how stupid is this move!
@ytboarder Public schools in Seattle are an epic fail. Charter schools will hopefully provide a model to the the public schools back on track!
Why has the Union and Teachers not step up, where are the parents,where are the voters and whereas the money going!?
Years of bad management is showing, with a mentality of âplow and replaceâ. Donât maintain it (even if the maintenance is just a coat of paint); that would be to easy and make to much sense. The school system will say âLet us obsolete school propertyâ (at Meridian and just north of N 137th) sell it to an apartment developer (money going to the general fund) then take the only undeveloped - open property (Playground) and put in a new school.
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My sentiments: School system get you act together. Buy the paint, perform the maintenance, look for and find innovative ways to save money. Why not rotate students through the school to clean it on a regular basis to generate some school pride? Why not â when needed as punishment have the students work on the school grounds? Why not teach students about auto mechanics, and auto repair with the schools vehicles?
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Students need learn, and we are not doing a very good job of teaching them, the school system doesnât need more money, it needs to spend the money that it has more wisely.
It is nice for KOMO to bring these problems to us AGAIN, but where are the health and safety inspectors and their red flags??? Asbestos, electrical problems, unsafe heating and cooling devices, falling roof's, rotting floors, and the list goes on and they are still not red flagging these buildings??? Maybe there needs to be some ass kicking in those departments as well. If my business had those problems it would be shut down in a heartbeat, but they let these schools continue to operate putting our children in danger EVERY DAY. Oh yes, where has all this levy money been going?? Could be in these deadbeat official's pockets maybe instead of being used to maintain these schools, or would they rather float another half billion dollar bond issue to build yet another NEW school instead of maintaining what they have? I just love government (not).
....anyone ask Silas Potter if he has a spare $Million or two to "donate"?
Year after year the PC crowd hires the same o same o PC management for Seattle Schools. Now they are shocked that the schools are falling to hell and they want more money. It will never change. This is the new normal for Seattle.
Hilarious. You people get what you vote for. Keep voting for pro union candidates to keep ruining schools and business in the area. The people of this area will never learn. I love it.
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Sure, if people voted for for Joe Schmoe instead of John Doe all these problems would solve themselves overnight. Funny how these posts always manage to bring these five point bozos out of the woodwork.
@Larry*X*K @TheLastDon22 such as yourself.
It seems prisoners live in better conditions than this. Can't we just throw all the murderers and lifers on an island and send that money to fix the schools?
 @SouthofSeattle Of coarse they do, it's called progressive liberalism. We don't want to offend Lumpy the15 time repeat rapist. Hell no, he can be rehabilitated! Again...
 @William H. Bonney So instead, we treat kids like crap and turn them into criminals by offering them substandard educational facilities to go along with their substandard education. Awesome.
This isn't just happening in Seattle Public Schools. My child attends Renton Academy in Newcastle and the kids there aren't suppose to drink the water there. In fact they have turned off the fountains so the kids can't drink from them. This school used to be Hazelwood Elementary but then a new school was built for them only a few yards away. The kids from Hazelwood get a shiny new school while my kid goes to the asbestos infested, run down school. All kids need a safe environment not just the kids in Seattle. I remember seeing a youtube post about Cascade Middle school in Sedro-Woolley that's having a lot of the same issues that this news report is mentioning. I would gladly pay more property taxes and support levies if the money from this actually went to fixing the schools and not fixing someone's pocket.Â
This is a disgrace. How can this be allowed to happen? How about we pretend we need to build brand spanking new sports arenas with fire sprinklers where each of these schools are located? See how fast the work gets done then! It's sad how little our children mean to us.
So where the hell is all the money going?
 @Mumblix Grumph over paid teachers
@armor @Mumblix Grumph I don't think teachers are overpaid. I think there are too many adminstrative personnel that money is wasted on. I also think the school board and superintendent are the ones responsible here.
 @justsayin I saw Robert Mak on K5 several years ago saying we had at least 2 administrators to EACH teacher.
Now it's probably four or five.
Congratulations Seattle, you always manage to elect the least competent person every time.
I knew you could do it!
 @justsayin  @armor  @Mumblix they are all over paid
@Mumblix Grumph you have to pay for the golden retiremets and all those bennifits. After you add up all those bennifits a teacher makes over 100,000 per year and have three months vacation and all holidays off and every weekend too. Not shabby if you ask me I think they need to cut the funding of benniffits to secure the safety of the children if the Union cared about the kids which they don't. I said the union the teachers do care it is the union leaders who don't.
 @Mumblix Grumph Unions. Well, you and I call them "kick-backs"."Seattle, we're proud to vote (D) no matter what the cost!!"
what has happened to all the bond money that everyone has been taxed its called mismanagement
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but at least the teachers pay tops out at over 80k
 @armor 80k after 15 years.
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The SPD hits 100k after 5 years. SFD hits 100k in 7. Is that really a comparison?
 @salishanSPD works a full time job they do not get 3 months off in the summer and every holiday ever created off. Spd job is a hell of alot harder last i checked teachers do not ware guns , pepper spray, handcuffs to work respond to ,shootings , murders ect so try again Â
On a lighter note, some of the photos are a time warp. That old 1913 furnace was manufactured by Ernst Hardware & Co. You old-timers remember Ernst Hardware?
@Justmyviews yep and pay-n-save too
Congratulations on your new Governor!!
Stupi(D)ity: Electing a complete loser because you were brainwashed by the media that anything other than (D) is more evil than Hitler, and individual thought is just not very progressive.
Now the kids, remember them? "But, it's for the kids !!" One of the cards you love to play, will pay for your stupi(D)ity.
@William H. Bonney Oh they did to the kids! extorted money that could have gone to fix this but no give me give me is all the union says. then never give back it is all take! a form of tyranny on the children and the working class that has to pay higher taxes. this is why the middle class is shrinking.
Thanks Christine
Plenty of inmates in various state prisons or jails that given the opportunity to be constructive (pun intended) would do so. Not all the inmates are worthy of such a privilege but there are some who are and can be reasonably trusted with appropriate supervision. They can work on non-school days where no faculty and students are present. It's not free labor but it is reduced wage labor. They can do many different jobs around the campuses like painting, dry-wall, mold removal, cleaning roofs and gutters, etc. Many of the inmates are pining for an opportunity to do anything that gets them out of their cell and their yards even for a brief time. Give some of them the chance and they will prove they can be useful and reliable.On a different note, bust up the state employee unions, bring their wages and benefits down to earth and fully fund schools like our State constitution says we are obligated to do. Nothing will change until we change our leadership in the governors office but the State house and senate as well.Â
No way that can happen in this State, government building including schools require prevailing wages to be paid. Thats why they are all crumbling, you have to pay a painter close to 30 bucks an hour on top of his benefits. Elevator mechanics make close to 80-100 dollar an hours if they are the mechanic in charge. No way they are gonna let labor in who are making 30 cents an hour.
 @kbbcoop unless the work is done by volunteers. Not that we're going to see enough people to rebuild a school based solely on volunteer labor.
 @Jalharad  @kbbcoop You might. But even if you did the School District would tell you "No."  They can't risk the liability from volunteers mucking around with wiring, plumbing, load retaining walls and such.  Volunteer for the walk-a-thon or PTA fundraising. Knock yourself out. Volunteer to repair the roof, or put in non-poisonous drinking faucets? Not happening. Little Sally would have a piece of roof fall on her and her parents would sue. Little Billy would cut himself on a sharp corner of that faucet and his parents would sue. No, the district would prefer to string it along as long as they can before having to deal with the lawsuits (which, with schools in this sort of disrepair will happen eventually, but if they don't have to deal with it now, so much the better.) It's a pity. But then again, if the public could get an accurate accounting of where the money is actually going and see where they need to shuffle things around to fix this, we wouldn't need volunteers in the first place.
 @MB Unfortunately, this is not likely to happen.  People freak out if anyone with a criminal history is allowed on school grounds as it is.
 @tman0175 I know, it's a shame. Many of the ones that worked with up in Monroe would willingly volunteer to do anything. Some should be allowed, some shouldn't, some definitely shouldn't. But if it were arranged to be done on days where no students and faculty were present I would be okay with some inmates coming to my kids schools to work. Just no kids or faculty. I just saw a road crew being supervised by a trooper by my house when I was taking my son to school. They were right across the street from an elementary school while students were arriving at school.  Mind you it's a four lane road and they were across the street. But picking up litter and some light landscaping even in the cold rain is better than being in a cell.