Doctors hard to recruit to Cowlitz County
LONGVIEW, Wash. (AP) — The Cowlitz Family Health Center has been trying to hire a doctor for three years, and it's no closer to filling the vacancy now than it was when the process began.
"We've had a few applicants, but not many," said Tamara Russell, human resources specialist at the Longview clinic. "Since January, we've had less than 10 applicants but not much more than that since the position opened up."
Cowlitz County, like many similar areas across the United States, finds itself struggling to compete with metropolitan areas for a limited number of primary care doctors, and the shortage will, according to health experts, lead to longer waits for appointments, delayed care and poorer health outcomes.
The national doctor shortage took root three decades ago when American medical schools established enrollment caps. The Association of American Medical Colleges projects the nation will be short 63,000 doctors by 2015. The shortage is expected to double by 2025 as federal health care reform expands medical coverage and sends thousands of new patients into the system.
According to an AAMC report, "The United States already was struggling with a critical physician shortage, and the problem will only be exacerbated as 32 million Americans acquire health care coverage, and an additional 36 million people enter Medicare" under the federal Affordable Health Care Act.
The shortage is going to be even more acute in smaller communities, which are at a recruiting disadvantage. Numerous studies and surveys, including one by the American Academy of Medical Management, show that only about 10 percent of doctors want to live in towns smaller than 100,000 people, said Carol Shea, physician recruiter for PeaceHealth St. John Medical Center. In addition, fewer than 15 percent of doctors want to live in the West, Shea said.
"Then you take that percentage and divide it across small-town USA. Then how many of those (doctors) want to live in the Pacific Northwest? You're looking at pretty minuscule numbers when you look at it that way," Shea said.
While doctor salaries in rural areas are competitive and perhaps slightly higher than those in metro areas — they must be to compete — larger hospitals and clinics can offer access to more appealing lifestyles. Quality of schools is important issue, too, Shea said.
"There are many factors involved in being competitive (in the recruitment battle), but the No. 1 thing is location," Shea said.
Kris Sparks, a state of Washington health worker who helps recruit doctors to small communities, said the average doctor leaves medical school with $164,000 in debt, and many are burdened with more than $200,000 in student loans. Larger hospitals and organizations often offer signing bonuses or programs that assist doctors in loan repayment. Smaller facilities usually don't have money for that.
"There's no way we can offer to pay someone's student loans as a signing bonus," said Dr. Rich Kirkpatrick, internal physician at Kirkpatrick Family Care in Longview. "You can just hope you make a positive impression on (recruited doctors) and they may come back later."
Another recruiting challenge for small communities is that doctors' spouses sometimes find it difficult to land jobs.
"Most professionals are married to other professionals, and small towns have limited opportunities," said Dr. Albert Luh, primary care service area director for Kaiser Permanente, which operates a Longview clinic on Seventh Avenue. "Often the spouse has a hard time finding a job, unless they're both doctors, which happens quite a bit here."
Doctors who do chose to locate in Southwest Washington often seek out smaller communities. An example is Dr. Megan Chono Dudley, who started working at Kaiser's Longview clinic two weeks ago after leaving the University of New Mexico and finishing her residency program. Living in Longview puts her close to relatives in Seattle-area, Northern California and Hawaii, she said.
"I wanted to live in a smaller town and have access to a city but not be in a city," said Dudley, 37. "And I promised my husband we'd move closer to water. So we were excited to move here."
She added the area's schools, Lake Sacajawea and the friendly atmosphere were big reasons why she chose Longview over a clinic in Enumclaw.
Luh said Kaiser is increasing its recruitment efforts and offering higher signing bonuses in preparation for meeting a surge in patient numbers expected from the new federal health care legislation.
"(Primary care) is still the frontline of medicine. It's still where the rubber meets the road," he said. "And if we don't get them now, we won't get them in the future."
One troublesome aspect of the doctor shortage is a lack of general practice and primary care doctors. Medical schools are graduating fewer general practice physicians as more med students go into specialties, which pay significantly higher wages.
"There's just going to be an overall shortage of primary care physicians," said Natalie González, recruitment specialist for the state Department of Health's rural health office.
Washington medical facilities may also be contend with what Gonzalez perceives as the Northwest's regional disadvantage. She noted there are far fewer medical schools in the area —when compared to California and the East Coast — and that the University of Washington medical school supplies candidates for residency programs in Washington, Alaska, Wyoming, Montana and Idaho.
"Studies show students tend to practice where they went to school or performed their residency," she said. "Washington is an importer of physicians."
Kirkpatrick said community providers should attempt to rally together to promote the positives of the area. Even though each provider is competing with the others for talent, he said improving the community would benefit everyone.
Luh said medical schools could allow more students into their competitive programs to produce more doctors, and that increasing loan subsidies for medical students could also attract more students to primary care.
However, he's not optimistic the situation will improve.
"I don't see the shortage (of physicians) changing, and the population is growing and we're going to be covering more Americans, so there's going to be more people in the pool," Luh said.
"We've had a few applicants, but not many," said Tamara Russell, human resources specialist at the Longview clinic. "Since January, we've had less than 10 applicants but not much more than that since the position opened up."
Cowlitz County, like many similar areas across the United States, finds itself struggling to compete with metropolitan areas for a limited number of primary care doctors, and the shortage will, according to health experts, lead to longer waits for appointments, delayed care and poorer health outcomes.
The national doctor shortage took root three decades ago when American medical schools established enrollment caps. The Association of American Medical Colleges projects the nation will be short 63,000 doctors by 2015. The shortage is expected to double by 2025 as federal health care reform expands medical coverage and sends thousands of new patients into the system.
According to an AAMC report, "The United States already was struggling with a critical physician shortage, and the problem will only be exacerbated as 32 million Americans acquire health care coverage, and an additional 36 million people enter Medicare" under the federal Affordable Health Care Act.
The shortage is going to be even more acute in smaller communities, which are at a recruiting disadvantage. Numerous studies and surveys, including one by the American Academy of Medical Management, show that only about 10 percent of doctors want to live in towns smaller than 100,000 people, said Carol Shea, physician recruiter for PeaceHealth St. John Medical Center. In addition, fewer than 15 percent of doctors want to live in the West, Shea said.
"Then you take that percentage and divide it across small-town USA. Then how many of those (doctors) want to live in the Pacific Northwest? You're looking at pretty minuscule numbers when you look at it that way," Shea said.
While doctor salaries in rural areas are competitive and perhaps slightly higher than those in metro areas — they must be to compete — larger hospitals and clinics can offer access to more appealing lifestyles. Quality of schools is important issue, too, Shea said.
"There are many factors involved in being competitive (in the recruitment battle), but the No. 1 thing is location," Shea said.
Kris Sparks, a state of Washington health worker who helps recruit doctors to small communities, said the average doctor leaves medical school with $164,000 in debt, and many are burdened with more than $200,000 in student loans. Larger hospitals and organizations often offer signing bonuses or programs that assist doctors in loan repayment. Smaller facilities usually don't have money for that.
"There's no way we can offer to pay someone's student loans as a signing bonus," said Dr. Rich Kirkpatrick, internal physician at Kirkpatrick Family Care in Longview. "You can just hope you make a positive impression on (recruited doctors) and they may come back later."
Another recruiting challenge for small communities is that doctors' spouses sometimes find it difficult to land jobs.
"Most professionals are married to other professionals, and small towns have limited opportunities," said Dr. Albert Luh, primary care service area director for Kaiser Permanente, which operates a Longview clinic on Seventh Avenue. "Often the spouse has a hard time finding a job, unless they're both doctors, which happens quite a bit here."
Doctors who do chose to locate in Southwest Washington often seek out smaller communities. An example is Dr. Megan Chono Dudley, who started working at Kaiser's Longview clinic two weeks ago after leaving the University of New Mexico and finishing her residency program. Living in Longview puts her close to relatives in Seattle-area, Northern California and Hawaii, she said.
"I wanted to live in a smaller town and have access to a city but not be in a city," said Dudley, 37. "And I promised my husband we'd move closer to water. So we were excited to move here."
She added the area's schools, Lake Sacajawea and the friendly atmosphere were big reasons why she chose Longview over a clinic in Enumclaw.
Luh said Kaiser is increasing its recruitment efforts and offering higher signing bonuses in preparation for meeting a surge in patient numbers expected from the new federal health care legislation.
"(Primary care) is still the frontline of medicine. It's still where the rubber meets the road," he said. "And if we don't get them now, we won't get them in the future."
One troublesome aspect of the doctor shortage is a lack of general practice and primary care doctors. Medical schools are graduating fewer general practice physicians as more med students go into specialties, which pay significantly higher wages.
"There's just going to be an overall shortage of primary care physicians," said Natalie González, recruitment specialist for the state Department of Health's rural health office.
Washington medical facilities may also be contend with what Gonzalez perceives as the Northwest's regional disadvantage. She noted there are far fewer medical schools in the area —when compared to California and the East Coast — and that the University of Washington medical school supplies candidates for residency programs in Washington, Alaska, Wyoming, Montana and Idaho.
"Studies show students tend to practice where they went to school or performed their residency," she said. "Washington is an importer of physicians."
Kirkpatrick said community providers should attempt to rally together to promote the positives of the area. Even though each provider is competing with the others for talent, he said improving the community would benefit everyone.
Luh said medical schools could allow more students into their competitive programs to produce more doctors, and that increasing loan subsidies for medical students could also attract more students to primary care.
However, he's not optimistic the situation will improve.
"I don't see the shortage (of physicians) changing, and the population is growing and we're going to be covering more Americans, so there's going to be more people in the pool," Luh said.
Look, just search for physicians in Longview WA, or Cowlitz County WA. You'll find lots of hits. Search within the Peace Health system, or Kaiser system, for physicians in that area, who are part of the PeaceHealth or Kaiser system respectively. Look for private practice doctors, they are there.
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The problem is not that they can't recruit physicians to Cowlitz County WA.
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The problem is they can't recruit physicians to the Cowlitz Family Health Center.
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And I bet there's a REAL GOOD REASON why physicians don't want to work there.
One of the main problems has always been the health care industry itself not investing in their future. The reason? Obviously they are already making plenty of money and don't care to invest in their future. SHould start with nurses. The health care industry should have apprenticeship programs to start training nurses and then if they want they could move up to become doctors. Have a niece going to UofW to become a pediatrician. Now with the professors getting more and more greedy its getting ridiculously expensive to go to UofW. Its all the greed thats making it difficult for the young to try and get an education. I encourage any of you kids to really do the research on grants. There is a lot out there that never ends up getting used.
If we don't go back to investing in our future there will be no future.
@Blindman
(Sorry, don't know what happened.) People don't usually become nurses because they want to be doctors. Nurses are not inconvenienced or stupid doctors- they are nurses, an entirely different profession.
If it helps, I play a doctor on television.....
You people that want to blame "ObamaCare" are idiots. This has nothing to do with the AHCA. The shortage of doctors has been a problem for a long time, decades even, and it isn't getting any better. The AHCA will actually encourage medical students to pursue PC instead of other specialties.Â
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My wife is a Primary Care Physician who is from Lewis County. She knows Dr. Kirkpatrick, who is a fantastic phyisician, and was seriously considering working with him when she finished her residency. The pay and benefits offered for Cowlitz county, and most counties not named King/Pierce/Snohomish, are better than big cities. It needs to be. Why else would you want to live in an area with a crazy high meth problem, a population that has epidemic levels of cancer among mill workers and those that live near them? Not to mention Kaiser and PeaceHealth are not exactly model employeers. The physicians that work for these companies are saints to stay with corporations that encourage providers to crank out the numbers, not practice preventive care.
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We moved to Grant County instead. Still need Docs out here. Still lots of issues with the population getting access to care, but they are greatful for those that want to practice here.   Â
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People smart enough to get through med school don't want to live in Cowlitz county, certainly not until they're out of debt.
This story is a mild example of the inevitable (if the Obama TaxNCare remains) "Greedy Doctors" narrative.
If it weren't for those outrageous salaries, we could afford health care or insurance.Â
The "Greedy Doctors" must be reigned in via forced collectivization.
Don't blame us, the government, blame the "Greedy Doctors."
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Yeah? You laugh? When the increased socialization of health care  and its requisite diminishing of service quality, the Elected will need scapegoats and it sure as he// ain't gonna be them.
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You can thank ObamaCare for this one. Subsidized healthcare for all reduces the incentive for Dr's to work and takes away the competitive advantage and pay scales.
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Good one, OBAMA!
@TacoBat1niner Last I checked, family medicine doctors weren't going through 7 to 8 years of schooling and residency just to make the big bucks.
 @TacoBat1niner , wow, do you honestly believe this?
According to this article the main reason that there is a doctor shortage is that medical schools have capped (limited) the number of students that they accept into their programs so that there are a limited number of doctors graduating. This has been going on since the 1980's.
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The high cost of medical school is adding to the problem but is not the primary issue, according to the article. Also according to the article, rural areas are at a competitive disadvantage since they can't offer to provide signing bonuses even though the salaries they offer are greater than in cities.
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I'm recapping the article since many of the previous commenters don't seem to get that the number one cause of the shortage is the artificial limits on the number of doctors graduating from medical school each year.
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It seems to me that the pertinent question is "Why is there a cap in place"? Is it because of the costs involved in providing the training required? Is it to ensure that the training received is of the highest caliber? Is it to drive up the salaries of medical professionals so that becoming a doctor is more attractive from a financial perspective, thereby driving up tuition?
 @mlgw Those would be excellent questions to be answered in the article...and weren't. :(
ObamaCare and it's socialized medical care is coming - few want to be a doctor. Caps on the number of medical students? That may be a good thing for some as it will reduce the number of unemployed doctors in the future.
 @JAP506 The reason that there are not enough doctors is not because of ObamaCare. It's because of the enrollment caps set by medical schools three years ago. ObamaCare is making the problem worse because it's making health care available to a much larger group of people that didn't have it before.There isn't a problem with doctors being unemployed. There is a problem with there being a shortage of doctors because of the enrollment cap.
 @mlgw That enrollment cap was three DECADES ago (30 years), not three years.
It sounds like the root problem is the cost in producing a doctor. Maybe it's time to nationalize medical schools and fix the cost at a reasonable level. Just like the rest of the health care industry.
 @GeorgeG. Sounds more like the primary problem is the enrollment cap and then the cost.
If there's going to be a shortage of doctors just because we are finally creating a system where most of our population is going to get care, then we should have had more doctors all along! The system before was a bad zero-sum game where some people were left out to die, that's not good.
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Time to create more incentives for people getting their MDs on a national level.
You spend ten years of your life to become a doctor and find out that your friends who were in college with you and got a B.A. are making more money than you will start at.. They have the toys you want and any dream of becoming a country Doctor in a small clinic goes by the way side. Blind man is right, it is about the money and paying back the student loans.
@whitewings2003, I have 3 doctors in my family and another starting at UW and they provide me with a different view of reality then you do. They made more as an intern then the average American salary.
Of course you can't find a doctor to work in a economically depressed area. How do you expect to have a doctor afford multiple vacation homes and Mercedes off of a depressed economy?
Its all about the money and always has been.