Embattled Pacific mayor facing recall petition
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PACIFIC, Wash. -- Fresh off his firing of the city clerk and four police officers, embattled Pacific Mayor Cy Sun is now taking on the teamsters union and a growing number of unhappy residents.
The teamsters are representing the four officers who were fired after arresting Sun last week.
All of this is happening with picketers surrounding City Hall, demanding a recall of Sun.
"Ever since he was elected it's just been a mess in the city," said recall supporter DuWayne. "It's now gotten to the point he's firing all of the police, half of the police officers," .
Sgt. Michael Bos is one of the four officers who arrested Sun last week when he tried to get into the city clerk's locked office, which the city attorney ordered sealed to prevent files from being tampered with.
The mayor reacted by firing the officers, but the police union says there's a civil service process that needs to be followed. One aspect of that process is a hearing, but Sun wouldn't allow the teamsters representative to speak on behalf of the officers.
"As I said, you cannot do that. This is between you and I," Sun said before adjourning the Friday hearing.
The teamsters say the firings are illegal and the officers will stay on the job, even if it's not certain they'll be paid.
"I'm going to continue to do my job and do my best to keep this community as safe as possible," said officer Josh Hong.
For his part, Sun said he has all the authority he needs to fire the officers.
"According the Washington revised code I do," Sun said. "Absolutely supreme power."
The teamsters are representing the four officers who were fired after arresting Sun last week.
All of this is happening with picketers surrounding City Hall, demanding a recall of Sun.
"Ever since he was elected it's just been a mess in the city," said recall supporter DuWayne. "It's now gotten to the point he's firing all of the police, half of the police officers," .
Sgt. Michael Bos is one of the four officers who arrested Sun last week when he tried to get into the city clerk's locked office, which the city attorney ordered sealed to prevent files from being tampered with.
The mayor reacted by firing the officers, but the police union says there's a civil service process that needs to be followed. One aspect of that process is a hearing, but Sun wouldn't allow the teamsters representative to speak on behalf of the officers.
"As I said, you cannot do that. This is between you and I," Sun said before adjourning the Friday hearing.
The teamsters say the firings are illegal and the officers will stay on the job, even if it's not certain they'll be paid.
"I'm going to continue to do my job and do my best to keep this community as safe as possible," said officer Josh Hong.
For his part, Sun said he has all the authority he needs to fire the officers.
"According the Washington revised code I do," Sun said. "Absolutely supreme power."
If Pacific ceases to be a city because the Mayor can't hire department heads, and therefore cannot keep insurance it will be the city council's doing. The Mayor has been bringing forth candidates for ALL empty dept. head positions and the city council REJECTS each candidate. ONLY in the case of certain key dept heads does the Mayor need confirmation from the council to hire and he can't get it. All the major positions of dept heads now vacant require council approval. The council won't approve ANYONE so the mayor can't save the city and insurance, therefore it's the council destroying the city, not the mayor.
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Also, FYI the investigation of the mayor destroying city documents will be announced shortly as having no merit because the mayor did not destroy any documents. It was simply a misunderstanding based on confusion in the use of the vocabulary. All the mayor did was catch a glaring error in a report that did not list the address of the resident and took off the first page that was supposed to have an address and order the staff to get the address on the document. That's not destruction. That's a keen eye fixing a mistake. So much for that accusation.
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But, the police - wow - they are being investigated for years worth of brutality. So if you know anyone who has been roughed up by the police have them call the WA State Patrol and ask for the officer in charge of investigating the Pacific police. As for the fired officers still showing up for work they will be in court soon charged with numerous offenses including carting around a gun and badge without authority, unlawful use of police vehicles as they are fired and various torts against residents for their interactions and assumption of power over Pacific residents playing cop when they are terminated. Can't wait. The union can't stop firings. Look at WM their union are teamsters too and those guys are already getting replaced with other drivers.
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The mayor was elected. A recall is going to cost money. Let the mayor do his job with good people that should treat him with respect.Not the low class of cleark and cops there now . I say replace them and keep the mayor who is trying to work for the people of pacific
Anyone been down to city hall? I was wondering if those cops are still guarding that room or if the mayor has gotten back in his original office.
Mayor Sun will prevail and he will get the town back under the control of the regular people from the gang of power hungry weirdos
In addition to the medals Mayor Sun received serving in the military, he received an education about the way to resolve âcorruptâ regimes. As in Vietnam and the second foray in to Iraq, the method favored is to destroy all that is there and rebuild from the ground up. Our Military leaders had plans, advisors, and an endless bankroll to achieve their goal. What are Mayor Sunâs plans? Who are his advisors? Where is his bankroll?
 @Fast Eddy 98047 Going way off the deep end there don't you think? Totally got why your fast eddy jumping to a ridiculous scene as comparing being mayor to conflicts in war. Hello that war is over. But, just for arguments sake, Mayor Sun learned in war: how to save lives, how to have hope in a hopeless situation, and how to prevail in the most depressing situations. Given your logic EVERY SOLDIER is nothing more than a killing machine trained to search and destroy. I believe our good veterans would be up in arms about your comparison. As for the rest, you and your pack want to know that only to search and destroy Sun's support. Well you'd have a lot of heads to aim at since Sun has a lot of support. His supporters just don't make fools of themselves and seek the limelight..Â
@711 Cares @Fast Eddy 98047Â The cops are sholders are they killing machines? YOU need to get a life
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This forum has lost it's steam. Â No fun. Â Well it will pick up soon on the coverage of Mayor Sun"s success. Can't wait to watch the heads roll. Â Oh, and whoever the weirdo is picking about votes and vote numbers. Â Really? Â Your candidate LOST and that's all that needs to be said. Â Trying to make it sound like he lost less is really ridiculously desperate. Â Losing is losing.
ANYONE else get that ridiculous flyer begging for money for the dairy queen princess's waste of time effort to get our mayor out.? Â What a joke. Â These people are hopping mad they will NEVER get Mayor Sun to resign, never. Â And they know there chances of forcing him out are squat. Â It's driving them totally nuts. Â Just wait and watch. Â The press loves a good story and soon they will get the best of all.
 @711 Cares I didn't get the ridiculous flyer but I did take one from my neighbors door. They must know that I support Mayor Sun.I was super impressed by the fact that the law office they want to hire handled the Pierce County Auditor recall. Too bad for them that that recall failed and so will a recall against Mayor Sun. And by the way citizens of Pacific, if the paint on your door was damaged by the tape they used to attach the flyer to your door you can submit the bill to the recall effort for reimbursement. They have no right to stick tape to your property and damage it.
WHAT HAPPENED TO ALL THE PICKETERS AND THE KIDS FLUFFING THE LINE? Did they have their tantrum and tire themselves out and are now napping? It's always like that with them.
@711 Cares yes they are all jurks PICKETERS OF PACIFIC AFRAID OF NOT HAVING 5 INSANE POLICE WORKING FOR THEM
@711 Cares Earlier, I drove by city hall & nothing was happening. I think I saw more at the multi home garage sale around the corner
 @choliscott  @711 That is actually very funny! And so true.Hope they got their money's worth with those picket signs. Those are not cheap. That whole picketing stint was planned some time ago by Jane, Stieger, and Hulsey.
Wow a disgruntled fired clerk - Jane - Stieger a pillar of the community, and Hulsey a convicted murderer/felon really? I mean REALLY?
This Mayor is destroying lifes, waisting tax dollars and scaring people out of Pacific. This is the laughing stalk of WA State and I sure hope the city clerk wins and the police have a peaceful nights rest knowing they have their jobs. My community is nothing but a small redneck good old boy system and it looks as if this place is too. The Mayor claims he wanted to clean things up, he has made such a mess that peoples lifes are changed forever and I have no faith in politics , AGAIN, and for those of you who say it is none of my business or to shut my mouth like I was told on the other forum, I have a very close tie, was almost going to relocate and will not shut my mouth, my prayers are with your community tonight and that includes you Mr. Sun.
@kitsapneighbor GOOD MOVE FROM HERE LOOSER
@Larry Davis Great another bully in the town of Pacific, if you want to support someone who has destroyed a city in 6 months, being accused of sexual abuse, and tries to use dictatorship in todays politics, go for it, yuck!
 @kitsapneighbor WHY do care it's not your town? Oh that's right you have a boyfriend in Pacific lol. Ya right! I THINK I saw Pacific residents running for the Algona line. Ha ha ha. Karma is a mean old harpy with a real long memory.
@711 Cares You do not have a clue what my tie is and you my friend are rude. Every nasty thing writen about you you deserve, I have my opinion and let it be, please quit making assumptions about me and my life, My business will not be part of this circus and I will only be part of a community that has class and manors...... know I will not make fun of Karma
I do not know who smith is nor do I want to at this point goooo away
 @kitsapneighbor  @711 You kitsap are just STRANGE.  Your probably full of it and actually Smith.  If as you say - your business will not be part of this circus - why are you always poking your nose in?  Wow you will only be part of a community that has class and manors.  Good luck on your trip to the moon.  You have to be Smith cause you are SO WEIRD AND SPEAK NONSENSE.  Going to start writing about ants and airport (we don't have) again.
 @kitsapneighbor MS. kitsapneighbor okay we get it you have an obsession with our town and you would rather spend time telling us what you think is the situation in our town than cleaning up your own. So, post away princess. Just wondering why don't you put as much effort into helping your as you said - small red neck good old boy - town you live in. Don't you have any very close ties in your own town. Our is the special guy in our town really all that great.
@711 Cares not you again!
 @kitsapneighbor  @711 YEP YEP YEP. It's me again lol. Always there always watching.
And I did not mean the GOOD OL BOY system as a compliment AT ALL, corruption at it's worst! Current corrruption, not past, this mayor said he would work for the people, look at his politaical statements he made before he won the election, what a joke
Sounds like the old mayor and police chief want their thrones back.Â
IF these minority people who have to pack their picket with kids think they can get a recall then why don't they just calm down and go through the entire recall process and see what happens? Why do they have to turn our town into a circus and attack ex mayors who aren't even involved. Could it be that they are not confident of their recall wants and are resorting to bully circus tactics trying to force the mayor to resign because they know they will lose. Our mayor is not the one turning the town into a circus, he is not the one jumping up and down and yelling like a child. Our mayor is doing what we voted him to do clean house and those circus weirdos are just the people afraid of being cleaned up.
Just making a scene to get attention. The Mayor clearly does not understand the civil service rules in place in the State of Washington. Head down to any City Hall HR in the state, and ask them how suspensions and terminations work for civil service employees. You might be surprised that you can't just fire an officer, a dispatcher, a corrections officer, for no reason, or certainly for anything personal. Even if you don't like police officers, they still deserve due process, and Mr. Sun is deliberately denying this to his employees. He will not be Mayor for long.
@PacificNWRunner YOU HAVE A SOLID ROCK BRAIN
 @PacificNWRunner It's not just personal to arrest your boss for trying to get into an office even the King County Sheriff stated on TV that he has every right to enter as the Sheriff reminded everyone - He is still the mayor - it is insubordinate at the very least. Add to that the fact these officers were even there at the order of the clerk and fired city attorney and there is more cause for the Mayor to fire them because the clerk and city attorney do not give orders to the police and the police know this so they were acting without authority against their own boss.Â
 @PacificNWRunner Well that went through without an awaiting approval message. Maybe they are flagging key words
 @PacificNWRunner I'm kinda replying to myself to get this out there. ALL POSTS TO GRANNY ARE DELAYED WITH AN AWAITING APPROVAL MESSAGE BUT POSTS TO OTHERS GO THROUGH. WHY IS THAT. ANYONE ELSE TRY RESPONDING TO GRANNY AND LET ME KNOW IF THIS HAPPENS TO YOU PLEASE.
This doesn't look like your average recall as all the signs are the same. Looks like someone hit the repeat button on the signage there.  A small handful of people mallingering about 10 paces apart does not equte a recall. It equals to a cluster clinging to the past not wanting to change for the better.
 @Granny_MAC granny it's just my post to you that are held up with an awaiting approval message. Why is that? It doesn't make sense.
 @Granny_MAC Not just a repeat button. Those signs were obviously ordered weeks ago. It takes weeks at the least to get signs like that.Â
 @Granny_MAC Granny I'm trying to reply to you that I agree with you and I like your way of putting it in perspective and I admire the way you have of being so nice about it. I wish I could always do that. But, my post is not showing up right away as it has AN AWAITING APPROVAL MESSAGE. Is that just happening to me? Or is it happening to others? Wow KOMO is doing that now. If they do that then it's not worth posting to have a delay. I would think flagging would be quick enough. The press playing those tactics with the free press of this forum is ridiculous. I can see flagging but not this
 @Granny_MAC And this excuse for a Mayor making a scene every chance he gets....is "for the better"?
 @PacificNWRunner  @Granny_MAC Look around dude. It's not the mayor making a scene. Or are you blind. The mayor is doing his job and not making a scene. Heck he barely talks to the press who seem to always know in advance everything that's going to happen before it happens and the mayor gets so feed up he just leaves. The definition of not making a scene in action.
 @PacificNWRunner  @Granny_MAC Can't reply to you directly granny as all attempted replies are held up with an awaiting approval message. Yesterday I came home to find a flyer from the dairy queen gal who doesn't live in our town wanting money. Did you get that thing?
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Read the Revised Coce of Washington RCW 9A.80.010. It's quite clear as to Official Misconduct on the part of the police.Â
Another thing is it appears the Teamsters don't dispute the reason for the firings. Makes ya wanna say Hmmm.... I like most police but certainly not the unions when they mostly just want your dues. They must want to make a scene for the publicity as if they are somehow relevent.
@Granny_MAC It's possible they are disputing it, but just not telling the media or "public" they are. It would be a little hard to dispute it, if the mayor leaves just because the union rep was there & was talking. Last I checked, if someone was was disiplinary action & was part of a union, the union rep is allowed to be there & is allowed to talk.
He said "supreme power". Only God has supreme power. He can move mountains. Cy Sun you were not elected to the position of God.
@pnwstguy is a church looser
 @pnwstguy You have a way of taking a figure of speech totally out of context. You should be on the council.
After reading some of the posts in here, it looks like half of the people in Pacific are just as crazy as the mayor. No wonder they are in trouble. Maybe they should check the water.
 @citizen kane It's well water and until Erickson was elected back in 2000 that well was not even locked up tight with security. Who knows Hildreth may have taken the lock for his collection of junk. Someone check quick! Is the well secure?
It's kind of nice to have Pacific in the spotlight . . . it gives Roy a break.
 @Waif Well thank you kind sir. I for one am happy to oblige.
Ok I'm confused.. Who exactly decided that the mayor isn't allowed into the clerk's office? One article made it seem like it was the city clerk. Another makes it seem like it was the acting chief, & now this says it was the City attorney.
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Why do I have this feeling the next employee fired will be the city attorney because how dare (s)he tell the fired cops they still had their jobs (just possibly with no pay)
 @choliscott Over on Kiro they said it was the king county sheriff. It said that files have been altered and stolen and there is an ongoing investigation by the king county sheriff and state patrol, so the room was ordered sealed so nothing else was messed with.
 @citizen kane  @choliscott Kiro did not say the sheriff ordered the room closed. I was there. Kiro merely reported that a member of the council asked for an investigation of the mayor. Big surprise questioning mayor's medals of honor didn't work. It's frivilous and I'm happy for the investigation because it will yield nothing and then what will they accuse the mayor of next. No files have been altered or destroyed and if they are found to have been - once the investigation is complete - then the police, the council, and the fired clerk will be up on charges as it clearly has been stated and witnessed by the press and the world that they mayor has been locked out of that offfice for months. You can't alter or destroy something you don't have access to. FYI if and when the Sheriff orders a room sealed the Sheriff has THEIR deputies secure it not the police of the town wherein there is an ongoing investigation. Especially when the Pacific Police are ALSO under investigation as the Sheriff clearly stated on site out of his own mouth but which is not beinjg widely reported.
@711 Cares @citizen kane If Kiro is saying the sheriff orded the room closed & Komo is saying it was the attorney, then someone needs to get the correct answer, It seems like we have multiple different stories about the same thing.
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 @choliscott Well the city clerk decided that her BOSS the mayor was not to enter HER (she bought the place you know) office. She claimed she was afraid of our 110 pound mayor. What she was afraid of is him having her served with termination papers. Then she goes out on disability leave (cause she's so distraught) thinking he wouldn't dare terminate her. Surprise. FYI that office is the mayor's office our mayor switched offices with the city clerk when she claimed she didn't have enough space in her broom closet office after she had to move from the front office because the office staff couldn't stand her. That was, of course, after the mayor gave her a large raise thinking she could be trusted to just do her job without trying to do the mayors job.
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 @ScaredinPacific ICEBUG is exactly the mentality of the council, the Pacific police, the fired clerk, and the fired city attorney. The only moderator the citizens have is the Mayor. And the bullies are freaking out.
 @711 Cares Komo has removed Iceburg's posts - he can comment, but when he crossed the line and started calling other people stupid and dunce, etc. etc., he became the very bully he  accused the Mayor of being.  The only difference is, here it is against the rules!
ICEBUG I see your post was removed for calling others a horrible word used that starts with M to refer to a poor child born with an extreme cognitive disorder. I'll have to check and see if KOMO has also wisely removed your racist posts as well.
 @iceberg YES it is true and you know it. YOU ICEBUG are a plant attempting to confuse the issues of this forum. If I chose to respond to you (Jane?) it will not be often. Wow the m***oloid word. Now you are calling anyone you don't agree with a poor child born with an extreme cognitive disorder. Have you moved on from racist comments.
 @iceberg  @choliscott wow ICEBUG you are a grumpy sort aren't you. The point of pointing out the mayor switched offices is obviously to point not only does the city clerk have no right to lock an office and bar the mayor but that the very office she did it with was a cushy office the nice mayor gave her to USE. Basically it's to point out that nothing and I mean nothing was good enough for this power hungry idiot clerk. Not a raise not a new cushy office. She wanted to play mayor and she doesn't even live here. The rest of your ramblings are too much to illiterate to make sense of.