Europe wants $12 billion a year from U.S. over Boeing aid

BRUSSELS (AP) - The European Union said Thursday it is asking the World Trade Organization to impose up to $12 billion per year in sanctions on the United States as part of a long-running dispute involving government subsidies to plane-makers Airbus and Boeing.
The EU said in a statement that the amount was "based on estimates of the damages suffered by the EU due to unfair and biased competition from the U.S. industry," which received U.S. government subsidies.
The action marks the latest salvo in a seven-year dispute between the EU and the U.S. over subsidies to the two plane-makers.
Officials from France, where Airbus is based, welcomed the EU's decision.
"The aerospace companies need to have a level playing field in international competition," Foreign Trade Minister Nicole Bricq and Transport Minister Frederic Cuvillier said in a statement. "This conflict has gone on too long now. We must put an end to it and restore fair competition. It is important for European companies and jobs. "
An Airbus spokeswoman also praised the EU decision.
"But this is nothing other than the next step in a trade dispute initiated in 2004 by Boeing. ..." Maggie Bergsma said. "We regret that Boeing continues a legal battle that could have been resolved a long time by mutual agreement.
A spokesman for Boeing did not immediately return a phone call seeking comment.
Boeing Co. and Airbus are fighting over a market believed to be worth more than $3 trillion over the next decade. The WTO has found fault on both sides.
In March, a WTO appeals panel upheld an earlier finding that Boeing received at least $5 billion in subsidies that hurt its European archrival and were prohibited under international trade rules. The amount, though, was far less than the European Union had alleged in its complaint.
On Monday, the U.S. claimed it had complied with that ruling by stopping some payouts to Boeing through NASA and the Pentagon and by removing some beneficial tax and funding policies.
The EU has rejected those claims.
Still, it has not emerged unscathed from the dispute, either. A WTO panel has ruled that European governments provided $18 billion in subsidies to Airbus, though not all were deemed illegal.
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Jamey Keaten in Geneva contributed to this story.
The EU said in a statement that the amount was "based on estimates of the damages suffered by the EU due to unfair and biased competition from the U.S. industry," which received U.S. government subsidies.
The action marks the latest salvo in a seven-year dispute between the EU and the U.S. over subsidies to the two plane-makers.
Officials from France, where Airbus is based, welcomed the EU's decision.
"The aerospace companies need to have a level playing field in international competition," Foreign Trade Minister Nicole Bricq and Transport Minister Frederic Cuvillier said in a statement. "This conflict has gone on too long now. We must put an end to it and restore fair competition. It is important for European companies and jobs. "
An Airbus spokeswoman also praised the EU decision.
"But this is nothing other than the next step in a trade dispute initiated in 2004 by Boeing. ..." Maggie Bergsma said. "We regret that Boeing continues a legal battle that could have been resolved a long time by mutual agreement.
A spokesman for Boeing did not immediately return a phone call seeking comment.
Boeing Co. and Airbus are fighting over a market believed to be worth more than $3 trillion over the next decade. The WTO has found fault on both sides.
In March, a WTO appeals panel upheld an earlier finding that Boeing received at least $5 billion in subsidies that hurt its European archrival and were prohibited under international trade rules. The amount, though, was far less than the European Union had alleged in its complaint.
On Monday, the U.S. claimed it had complied with that ruling by stopping some payouts to Boeing through NASA and the Pentagon and by removing some beneficial tax and funding policies.
The EU has rejected those claims.
Still, it has not emerged unscathed from the dispute, either. A WTO panel has ruled that European governments provided $18 billion in subsidies to Airbus, though not all were deemed illegal.
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Jamey Keaten in Geneva contributed to this story.
LOL
Hey EU, see this? You are number 1 too.
They better hope the US makes it because who is going to pay all of the foreign aid if we don't? We have as much right to look out for our best interest as they do and as an American I hope our government starts looking out for the USA first and formost.
The WTO should never have been created. Things were so much better before globalization.
me, too
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The WTO said so? Big freaking deal.
The EU is looking for a bail out.Â
EU, NATO, WTO, Europe, Airbus, Obama - ALL SOCIALISTS!!
@Truth Percolates What a surprise, here you are again, railing against Obama in a story that has nothing to do with politics or Obama. I was going to ask you if you ever comment on anything other than politics, particularly in stories having nothing to do with politics, but I already no the answer.
Next time Europe goes to war, let's stay home.
 @Tim Lane next time anyone goes to war...
 @Theonedog  @Tim Lane Sure, next time we are attacked lets stay home.
Hey, how about you just stop giving away your planes for free!!!
 @Too funny! Especially the ones that fall out of the sky into the Atlantic with nary a trace!
Fine you want 12billion/yr! How about we start putting tariffs on all the crap you import to the USofA, better yet how about we stop giving and supporting NATO!!! France you're on your own!!!
So how much does the US get for Europe's support of Airbus?
Print your own damn money!
@webby They probably would like to, but that would cause the currency to be even worth less than it already is & plus the U.S. would complain....
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Never mind that we are already doing this with the same result
On second thought....Sure we will give you the $12B that you demand and you must give us the $18B in compensation for the illegal EU subsidies. With penalties offsetting you need to pay the US $6B. That would be a nice profit for our school system.
@Rider that is actually a well thought out solution........
How about HELL NO!!!!!!!!!!!!
FSCK OFF!
@Rider I actually liked your other suggestion better, still +1 for brevity on this one though..
 @schramalot Knee jerk response. If it were me I'd pull all US forces out of Europe.
We can all stop traveling to Europe if you want to play that game.Â
@Shelly - only the rich can travel anywhere these days, let alone to Europe.
People in hell want ice water too.
$12 Billion PER YEAR seems awfully high considering the article states that in March the WTO found that Boeing recieved $5 Billion in subsidies. I'm not understanding something here...
if only you guys would embrace capitalism then you wouldnt be facing such fines - what with your state supported plane making companies and your "publicly" owned power companies and until recently your nanny-state run liquor stores its like living in the USSR! Â i came here thinking it was the land of the free but its like some socialist backwater.
so go back where you came from - we don't need yet another frickin' whiner.
Eff Off China, EU, NATO and WTO! Â Time to buy American and take care of the USA first.
Shouldn't they all owe us a few bucks for the fact they were not forced to speak German 65 years ago? Those were US/Boeing planes flying our grandparents in, many of which are still there.
Good luck with that.
Let's leave NATO, WTO and UN.
 @facher83 not in our interest, believe it or not
Note to US Airlines.
Don't by Airbus.
Eff-off WTO, and take the EU with you; neither of you are welcome here.
Tell the EU and WTO to pound sand !
But dem europeeins is da ones who started the subsidy-based aeroplane buildin'.
<<<Sigh>>>
Perhaps we should start holding them all responsible again for what they owe us for WW2?
...if I was Boeing, I'd tell that Euro trash to suck on my fuselage.
Um....NO!!!! Â We need to end our affiliation with the WTO AND repeal /renegotiate NAFTA and CAFTA!!! Â Put America and Americans FIRST. Outlaw the outsourcing of US JOBS by US Corporations!Â
 @HallandOates sounds great, unfortunately we are not very competitive and product prices and inflation would sky rocket... be careful what you wish for
Someone wanting money is newsworthy? Very well- I want $15 billion!
Fine. Send those b@stards a bill for saving their a$$es in 1918 and 1944.
@Hagar Only ONE country has paid us back for WWI. Not anyone from WWII. So they want 12 Billion, deduct what we spent on WWII (adjusted for inflation) and send them the bill for the rest.
That's what Romney's talking about...EU is part of those 47 % !
 @scychan He probably has bank accounts there too.
After this Election,Romney is gonna be broke,he will NEED that money from EUÂ !
 @scychan Hope springs eternal: can't imagine anyone more "worthy" after all the destructiveness of Bain.