Future of Wash. marijuana farming still uncertain

YAKIMA, Wash. (AP) - Irrigation canals line Washington's Yakima Valley east of the Cascade Range, transforming a desert landscape into one of the most productive agricultural regions in the world - including crops for some of America's biggest vices.
Thousands of acres of wine grapes dot the landscape, contributing to Washington's No. 2 rank for premium wine production behind California. Farmers grow more than two-thirds of U.S. hops for big beer companies and craft brewers alike, and a large tobacco field is flourishing on a valley Indian reservation.
Now that Washington voters have legalized marijuana, will a region long recognized as one of the country's leading fruit bowls, best celebrated for Washington apples, become known as the vice belt? Not necessarily.
Too many unanswered questions remain about the new law, from how the state will regulate it to whether entrepreneurs or large corporations should lead the way. And the biggest question: the federal government's role going forward.
Marijuana remains illegal under federal law. Many states have approved it for medical use, but only Washington and Colorado have legalized it for recreational use.
The Justice Department has not said whether it will try to block the two states from implementing their new laws, passed late last year. For that reason, key land-grant universities that typically aid the agriculture industry by researching such things as pest control and crop yields - but rely on federal funding to do so - are avoiding the marijuana industry altogether.
In addition, marijuana is a crop that can't be insured, and federal drug law bars banks from knowingly serving the industry.
Any combination of those factors makes farmers leery of planting marijuana in the near term, said Bob Young, chief economist for the American Farm Bureau Federation.
"At this stage of the game, it poses tremendous problems for growers," he said. "Quite frankly, I'd tell one of our members to approach this with great caution."
Both states are in the process of developing rules for a legal marijuana industry. In Washington state, a Liquor Control Board that privatized liquor sales statewide last year on orders of a different voter-approved initiative now is tasked with developing rules governing pot cultivation, processing and sales.
Of the three licenses the board will authorize - grower, processor, seller - the rules for producing marijuana raise the most complex issues, according to Randy Simmons, project manager for the Liquor Control Board.
How many farmers should be allowed to produce marijuana in order to meet demand, and how big should their crops be? Where should they get their seeds? Should a crop be grown indoors or in fields outside?
Dozens of marijuana experts, who have been growing plants for medical use or in secret for illegal use, are educating state officials about the potential for the crop. Probably 95 percent of those people choose to grow their plants indoors, despite higher costs, to control light and temperature, improve quality and increase yields, Simmons said.
Indoor crops generally allow for up to three harvests per season, compared to just one harvest for an outdoor crop, and allow for easier security measures.
As Simmons put it, "Somebody out picking a handful of grapes isn't going to get stoned. So if we go through this process and determine outdoor grows are OK, we have to determine security standards."
Security is a concern for Gail Besemer, who grows flowers and vegetables near Deming, Wash., and has expressed interest in a producers' license.
Besemer already has three hoop houses, which are essentially temporary greenhouses, but could see expanding her business slightly to grow marijuana for a local clientele in northwest Washington.
However, "I'm concerned about druggies invading my property - ne'er-do-wells invading my property to steal, to get free dope," she said. "Security would be an issue."
Besemer, who is in her 60s, said she has never grown marijuana or used it, but can see potential for the crop.
"My family is not particularly excited about me being interested in this. But if someone has an integrated farm, growing a number of different crops, I would think it would be a high profit plant," she said. "Taxation and security might get in the way of profits, and it might end not being so profitable.
"I'll just have to wait and see about the regulations," she said.
The Colorado Farm Bureau opposed the law there and says none of its members have expressed interest because they are unwilling to take the risk, according to Nicholas Colglazier, the group's director of public policy.
Few traditional farmers, like Besemer, have expressed interest in Washington.
Simmons acknowledged that there are still many unanswered questions, but said answers will come with new state regulations this year. But he said he could envision an industry that allows for both boutique growers with higher quality marijuana and large outdoor growers to get a cheaper product on the market.
"You're always going to see people looking for specific strains and varieties," he said. "It's like drinking Budweiser or a microbrew."
Thousands of acres of wine grapes dot the landscape, contributing to Washington's No. 2 rank for premium wine production behind California. Farmers grow more than two-thirds of U.S. hops for big beer companies and craft brewers alike, and a large tobacco field is flourishing on a valley Indian reservation.
Now that Washington voters have legalized marijuana, will a region long recognized as one of the country's leading fruit bowls, best celebrated for Washington apples, become known as the vice belt? Not necessarily.
Too many unanswered questions remain about the new law, from how the state will regulate it to whether entrepreneurs or large corporations should lead the way. And the biggest question: the federal government's role going forward.
Marijuana remains illegal under federal law. Many states have approved it for medical use, but only Washington and Colorado have legalized it for recreational use.
The Justice Department has not said whether it will try to block the two states from implementing their new laws, passed late last year. For that reason, key land-grant universities that typically aid the agriculture industry by researching such things as pest control and crop yields - but rely on federal funding to do so - are avoiding the marijuana industry altogether.
In addition, marijuana is a crop that can't be insured, and federal drug law bars banks from knowingly serving the industry.
Any combination of those factors makes farmers leery of planting marijuana in the near term, said Bob Young, chief economist for the American Farm Bureau Federation.
"At this stage of the game, it poses tremendous problems for growers," he said. "Quite frankly, I'd tell one of our members to approach this with great caution."
Both states are in the process of developing rules for a legal marijuana industry. In Washington state, a Liquor Control Board that privatized liquor sales statewide last year on orders of a different voter-approved initiative now is tasked with developing rules governing pot cultivation, processing and sales.
Of the three licenses the board will authorize - grower, processor, seller - the rules for producing marijuana raise the most complex issues, according to Randy Simmons, project manager for the Liquor Control Board.
How many farmers should be allowed to produce marijuana in order to meet demand, and how big should their crops be? Where should they get their seeds? Should a crop be grown indoors or in fields outside?
Dozens of marijuana experts, who have been growing plants for medical use or in secret for illegal use, are educating state officials about the potential for the crop. Probably 95 percent of those people choose to grow their plants indoors, despite higher costs, to control light and temperature, improve quality and increase yields, Simmons said.
Indoor crops generally allow for up to three harvests per season, compared to just one harvest for an outdoor crop, and allow for easier security measures.
As Simmons put it, "Somebody out picking a handful of grapes isn't going to get stoned. So if we go through this process and determine outdoor grows are OK, we have to determine security standards."
Security is a concern for Gail Besemer, who grows flowers and vegetables near Deming, Wash., and has expressed interest in a producers' license.
Besemer already has three hoop houses, which are essentially temporary greenhouses, but could see expanding her business slightly to grow marijuana for a local clientele in northwest Washington.
However, "I'm concerned about druggies invading my property - ne'er-do-wells invading my property to steal, to get free dope," she said. "Security would be an issue."
Besemer, who is in her 60s, said she has never grown marijuana or used it, but can see potential for the crop.
"My family is not particularly excited about me being interested in this. But if someone has an integrated farm, growing a number of different crops, I would think it would be a high profit plant," she said. "Taxation and security might get in the way of profits, and it might end not being so profitable.
"I'll just have to wait and see about the regulations," she said.
The Colorado Farm Bureau opposed the law there and says none of its members have expressed interest because they are unwilling to take the risk, according to Nicholas Colglazier, the group's director of public policy.
Few traditional farmers, like Besemer, have expressed interest in Washington.
Simmons acknowledged that there are still many unanswered questions, but said answers will come with new state regulations this year. But he said he could envision an industry that allows for both boutique growers with higher quality marijuana and large outdoor growers to get a cheaper product on the market.
"You're always going to see people looking for specific strains and varieties," he said. "It's like drinking Budweiser or a microbrew."
When will MJ start to be taxed?! Or was that another lie by the advocacy groups?
Booze and tabacco are legal and no one would ever think about seriously making it illegal. Yet every year we admit that thousands of people die from their use.  With all of those verified statistics,  it amazes me that there is so much adversity to pot. How hipocritical can one be.  If ALL the people who EVER directly died due to pot use were recorded, it wouldn't come any where close to the number of people who die EACH year from butts and booze.  Me thinks it might have something to do with deep pockets...you think!!!!  You see comments here about people being sold pot that's been laced with other chemicals to get young users addicted to stronger substances. That's all possible because we're so stupid about the legal and safe sale of marijuana.  If we legalized marijuana, safely grew it, instituted safety regulations, and reasonably taxed it, we would see a drop in crime, a decrease in jail overcrowding,  reduced across the border drug trafficing, a drop in hard substance abuse, and a new source of well needed tax revenue for exploding budgets.Â
Â
Until marijuana is federally legalized this will not happen. Right now, under the current situation,  pot growers will leave themselves wide open to legal problems, violence, property damage, and loss of crop due to theft and vandalism. Again I say, if you can't grow pot then you shouldn't be allowed to grow tobacco or hops for booze, both of which kill thousands of people every single year.    Â
 @phoenixabove People are against pot because of ignorant statements like this and what it's doing to the brains of the youth. Your logic is that hey, substance A and B are dangerous, so let's make C legal because it's also dangerous. Really?
BEWARE future marijuana farmers. You are entering a very very dangerous enviroment. You are putting your life & your families life on the line. don't sell your soul to the devil.
Perhaps when the federal government starts seeing all the tax possibilities they will come around. If there's lots of money in it for them there probably won't be a problem.
 @Jatok Do you really think people are going to buy state taxed marijuana? Maybe the occasional user. But the chronic smoker is going to grow their own plants or keep buying it from the same guy they've always bought it from for 20% less than the states cost. If I could make my own alcohol that actually tasted good. I would avoid the state tax's. In my opinion the entire tax argument of bringing in huge revenue is highly unlikely.
@Hippo Donut If you'll notice I said "possibilities" not realities. You have to realize the government doesn't operate at the same level as us regular citizens.
 @Jatok Gawd, do you think that's what its about? Get off the pipe for a while dude!
@WhatdidIsay? First off I don't smoke weed and second off I'm not a dude.
Hmmm... "...a region long recognized as one of the country's leading fruit bowls..."- yep, especially in certain areas of Seattle!
this is how rediculous this whole thing is, the "experts" are worrying about how to get and distribute Seeds. No one who is an Expert would grow marijuana from seeds.The people growing today ar using plants that are 10-20 years old, just keep taking cuttings so the strain continues as long as you want to grow.
Â
Additionally no one is going to want to buy from a state store with a 20% tax placed on it. And be monitored/tracked how much you buy and when.
Â
Get a clue washington, just let the current system go. Taxing it will be your downfall....... cause the growers today won't want to be Monitored, taxed, and tracked.
BOTTOM LINE ... they passed a law that had so many LOOP HOLES in it they have no idea where to begin...
I was a little excited to see the marijuana law pass, and nervous on how its going to play out. I do not smoke weed; for some reason it really does make me have anxiety, I have not been able to smoke and feel good sense I was 15. So my stoner days were very short lived, and I was not really a drinker I did not like doing anything that could possibly make me sick. ( I have a phobia of vomiting).  This may sound bad; but now that I am a mother I rather have weed sold in stores and regulated. My son's father had a history of drug abuse and I think that if weed is regulated then the underage kids will get their hands on it just like they get their hands on alcohol, and it will keep the local drug dealer's out of it. Around were I live, meth and heroin is very popular and its the dealers who sell pot to the kids around here who push meth and heroin on the kids. I have witnessed drug pusher's doing it growing up, I went to school with kids who now have a out of control heroin addiction because their "weed" dealer actually put some black tar in their weed pipe. So with that said, I believe marijuana being regulated and sold in stores will just have kids looking for a 21 year old to go into the store and buy for them. Just like kids and I did with cigarettes and HARD LIQUOR when we were underage will in a way make it safer for teens. I am not condoning underage kids get stoned. But lets face it; most teens smoke it and If my kids or when they decide they want to get stoned with their friends I would feel more comfortable knowing it came from a store than some pusher where who the hell knows what the weed is laced with. I do not want to have to choose between the better of two evils but this is life, and regulated is safer than it not being regulated.
I also want to add, I am in now way accusing everyone who sell or used to sell or grow of pushing hard drugs on kids, but we all know their is people out there that do.
"Dozens of marijuana experts, who have been growing plants for medical use or in secret for illegal use, are educating state officials about the potential for the crop. Probably 95 percent of those people choose to grow their plants indoors, despite higher costs, to control light and temperature, improve quality and increase yields, Simmons said."
Â
Anyone trying to grow outdoors in WESTERN Wa is an effing idiot. We do not have the climate here to produce a quality product.
Â
I'm glad that those state officials are getting the proper advice.
Hey man! Lets start a marijuana farm! Right after we smoke this joint........:-0
I also encourage anyone that is a medical or recreational user to study up on employment drug tests. You will be fired if you test positive for smoking a blunt in the last couple of weeks. Synthetic urine is easy to use and beats most all of these tests and its easy and cheap to use. Its a shame that people can legally be fired for doing something over the weekend or in the evenings. But thats just the nature of what happens when people give up your inalienable rights so easily.
I sure hope this Governor shows the tenth amendment to president Obama and lets him know this is a states right.
No crop insurance! that is funny
No commercial cannabis farmers are going to happen here. With feds making it illegal the grower will have no tax right offs for expenses. The grows will stay under a 100 plants and will also stay indoors just to try and keep the nazis at bey. It could be grown outdoors in eastern washington if someone was willing to accept the risks. You would only get one crop a year though.
I was just reading that in Ca. they're ripping out vineyards and replacing them with nut farms. Need less water, etc. Land values are skyrocketing. Should do that in eastern Wa.
@Klondiko That is interesting;Â Where did you read that?
@Phatharrius Here is a good article-
Â
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=169229692
Obviously the person who wrote this doesn't know anything about how Marijuana is grown.
Â
It's grown indoors here in Washington because the climate here doesn't support growing it outdoors, unless you're just growing hemp weed. It's not grown indoors to get more harvests per year, it's grown indoors because it doesn't grow outdoors well at all. It's too cold and wet here. And very few people will use seeds. Once you have a successful strain you clone them. I know people who haven't seen a seed in ten years.
Â
And the whole security issue is just garbage. Lots of businesses need security, jewelry stores, car lots, grocery stores. And marijuana is different how?
Â
We still have a long way to go...
 @Bellevue Scott so, a 7-11 has 1-2 million in inventory, they don't have armed guards. You don't grow marijuana in Washington just like you wouldn't grow pineapples in Washington. Indoor Washington weed is also suspect. The humidity is too high, too many mildews and molds in the air and growing practices are different there too. It is just not going to happen. There is a cotton belt for a reason, the apple belt, and now, a marijuana belt. Its not in Washington.
@Jacob Actually, I know of a few indoor grows that produce EXCELLENT product. Your just doing it wrong.
 @Bellevue Scott wrong !!its good for growing here. indoor is for sissies
@bobby day Actually your wrong. Western Wa is NOT the ideal climate for outdoor grow but then again if all you care for is weak dirt weed, have at it.
I vote we spend more money and form ANOTHER government committee to decide that
@DISPATCH911 I hope you mean a "blue ribbon panel".
The federal government has no rights in regards to Marijuana, as they have no authority to legalize or make illegal any substance, and can't touch commerce unless is crosses state lines.
 @Thomas Gill You know that. And I know that. The Supreme Court has ruled differently however. See "Wickard v. Filburn" 1942.
The fathers of our country had many uses for this product. Including smoking it. I think they would say "if its profitable use it".
 @Seahawk64 Ummm, they grew hemp -- not marijuana.
 @jkdrummer  @Seahawk64 They did both. Humans have been consuming cannabis en mass for at least 170,000 years. Only in the last 75 years has there been any legal issues with it.
Farming marijuana is an issue? Tell that to the outlaws, MMC providers and everyone else in between that has been doing it since time began.... rubbish.
Farming? Indoors maybe,but not outdoors.At least I don't want any oudoor pot.
 @F4I what about pot used for 50000 years ! everyone liked it !outdoor is best you cannot beat the sun you obviously never grew it lol
@bobby day I grow my own medicinal pot indoors.When my friend stops by he always says "hows it feel to have the best stuff in the valley...Well I must say it feels pretty darn good.Now go back to the basement before your mom gets home.
@bobby day You don't know ANYTHING about growing, do you?
 @bobby day  @F4I There has to be sun first. LOL, but great point.
Maybe the laws of supply and demand will not be repealed and the price of pot will drop to $4 a bale.
"Vice belt"? Only if wine is also considered a "vice" in this context.