Gun battle leaves 1 dead as residents dive for cover
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SEATTLE -- A gun battle in the Riverton-Boulevard Park neighborhood south of Seattle left one person dead and sent residents diving for cover early Wednesday, according to officials.
King County sheriff's spokeswoman Cindi West said investigators believe people in two cars were shooting at each other at about 1:20 a.m.
One of the cars crashed near a home in the 1000 block of 102nd Street as shots were still being fired. Some of the gunshots hit the home, and everyone inside got down on the floor, West said.
When deputies arrived, they found a man shot to death in the passenger seat of the car that crashed, and the driver suffered a life-threatening gunshot wound to the head.
He was taken to Harborview Medical Center in critical condition.
Deputies are looking for the other car that is believed to be involved in the shooting, and West said at least two houses and one other car were hit by the gunfire. No one in the houses was hurt.
"It was probably... a running gun battle," she said.
A neighbor said he heard at least a dozen shots fired.
It was not clear what prompted the shooting, and no description of any suspects or the other car has been released.
Investigators found a gun in the car with the two shooting victims, and deputies have cordoned off the area while they search for bullet casings and other evidence.
King County sheriff's spokeswoman Cindi West said investigators believe people in two cars were shooting at each other at about 1:20 a.m.
One of the cars crashed near a home in the 1000 block of 102nd Street as shots were still being fired. Some of the gunshots hit the home, and everyone inside got down on the floor, West said.
When deputies arrived, they found a man shot to death in the passenger seat of the car that crashed, and the driver suffered a life-threatening gunshot wound to the head.
He was taken to Harborview Medical Center in critical condition.
Deputies are looking for the other car that is believed to be involved in the shooting, and West said at least two houses and one other car were hit by the gunfire. No one in the houses was hurt.
"It was probably... a running gun battle," she said.
A neighbor said he heard at least a dozen shots fired.
It was not clear what prompted the shooting, and no description of any suspects or the other car has been released.
Investigators found a gun in the car with the two shooting victims, and deputies have cordoned off the area while they search for bullet casings and other evidence.
Crazy how some of you say such rude things....someone's child is dead..do you know these kids? Do you know the story...no...just what the media is telling you. Shame on you all...I know these kids and they are not gang bangers...or bad kids..sheesh ..some people. Sending strength and love to the family's who are heartbroken right now...
@missy , yeah "good kids" are out shooting at each other at 1:20am. Make no mistake - these "kids" are savages that can't control their anger or violent impulses.
Much love and respect, right?
@missyIt was my cousin who died, and the other that is critically injured is a good friend of my brother. I can tell you they are NOT "gangsta"... These people have absolutely no idea what they are talking about. They were both good kids and not out gang banging. If very unfortunate we live in a world that is filled with people who are so quick to judge, when they don't know these people. Society can kiss my ass!
@USMC_WIFE0369 @missy It's pretty hard to imagine, from society's point of view, how one becomes involved in a car gun battle. Granted, what we know is what the media has presented. So, I am listening.Â
@Nanamamabjm @USMC_WIFE0369 @Susabelle @missy I know. When I was in my early teens, I admit I hung around that crowd. But I got away from it. It's just sad to hear about it being your own family and being so far away to be able to do anything.
@USMC_WIFE0369 @Nanamamabjm @Susabelle @missy It has to be difficult for you since you are away from the family here.  Unfortunately, even good kids are embracing this lifestyle, and it's getting them dead.  I hope they figure out what happened and that your cousin and his friend were not involved other than being victims.  We had a very good friend here a few years ago who was killed and her brother shot. They were innocent, targeted by gangs because of the appearance of her vehicle and that she and her brother were dressed and acted in such a way that it appeared they were involved with a rival gang.  Justice was served in that case and the shooter went to prison along with others who helped.  But that young lady is still just as dead.  However, if she and her brother weren't walking the walk and talking the talk, they wouldn't have looked and acted like ganstas.  Good kids, smart kids, but they played with fire and lost.  I thought something like that might of happened here when I saw the red car in the photo.
@Nanamamabjm @USMC_WIFE0369 @Susabelle @missy I know. I understand why people are thinking it was gang related since there were shots fired from both sides. As to why? We are not sure of that. May it be gang related, no one deserved to die. Especially with his immediate family. They lost his older sister to cancer just 2 years ago, and now him. Growing up, he was such a good kid. I'm just at a lost for words right now.
@USMC_WIFE0369 @Susabelle @missy I also grew up in Seattle and spent many a night at Alki (often without parental knowledge). I think what you are seeing here is that the gang element has caused an increase in violence. So dont be discouraged, if your cousin is the victim of gang activity, you will see these same people roar to their defense. It is easy enough these days to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. We have had a rash of gun crime lately involving gang activity. A woman was just shot outside the market recently as an innocent bystander. So, dont give up on society, but give us a chance to get the facts. We do tend to fly off the handle from time to time...
@USMC_WIFE0369 @Susabelle @missy Sorry for your loss USMC.  If wrong assumptions were made about the situation, I'll be one of the first to say I'm sorry for making them.  In all fairness tho, the story states that the gun fire went both ways.
@Susabelle @USMC_WIFE0369 @missy It's crazy. I can recall when I was a teen living in Seattle. A bunch of my friends and I would go to Alki and night and just hang out, and we were not in gangs, didn't do drugs or anything of sorts. We were just hanging out there talking. All of a sudden 2 cars drove by us and then mad a u-turn and started shooting at us for no reason.. Good thing no one was hurt.  I was quick enough and was able to get the license plate and the 6 people involved got caught 2 days later.
Like I said, the media likes to spin things. I just can't stand people assuming things about people they don't know.
@USMC_WIFE0369 @missy were the ones shooting at them?
@USMC_WIFE0369 @Susabelle @missy I will keep your family in my thoughts and my condolences on your loss.
@Susabelle @USMC_WIFE0369 @missy We aren't sure what happened. We know as much as all of you right now. My family is still at Habor View, and I'm still trying to call around to see if anyone knows anything. I'm in NY, so there's only so much I know.
@missy So, they had guns and were shooting at each other why???
@Nanamamabjm @missy I'd certainly like to know why these "good" kids were racing around 1:20 in the morning shooting at each other...
"A neighbor said he heard at least a dozen shots fired."
 It's a wonder small children weren't hit in their beds. Meanwhile another murder is walking around.
they are just expressing their 2nd amendment rights,jees givem a break.
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the one good thing about tolls: they keep all of the gang fights in seattle, except that munchbar one that fortunately didn't hurt any innocent, uninvolved parties
@dorimonsonfan Sure didnt help Richmond VA...
This will never stop and will just get worse because the welfare class continues to grow.  Democrats need the permanent welfare underclass vote to keep them in power. But their subsidization of babies without families inevitably results in criminal youth gangs, more drug use and crime.  They will never admit welfare state policies are destructive so they come after you and I and claim our gun rights and our racism are the cause of their failures.
Democrats advance the same "solutions" every time. They are less liberty for those not involved, banning guns from those not involved and higher taxes to subsidize more bad behavior.Â
@Goodwin Funny. By this logic Sweden should be the most violent place on Earth.
@Tyson I had no idea Sweden was paying teenage black girls to have multiple babies.  But you know it's not true and your response was typical of those with no valid point.
@Nanamamabjm @Tyson @Susabelle I guess it depends on who you talk to. I dont think it should, but I've noticed that anyone can take a racist line or complain that a comment is racist on just about every discussion on here, bringing racism into a discussion that really had nothing to do with it
@Tyson @Susabelle @Nanamamabjm Just a question.  Is it racism when you point out something that is factual?  I know many people of all colors use the system incorrectly, but is it right to turn a blind eye to how huge the problem is in the black community and how it is destroying their culture and pride?
@Susabelle@Tyson@NanamamabjmSo we all agree that criminals are probably dumber than a box of rocks, Government help isn't necessarily all bad and Goodwin is probably a huge racist? I kid, I kid Goodwin, I'm sure you're charming. Anyway I was only interested in this this story because I live not far from the area that it happened. Time to get back to work and pay back some loans. Later peeps!
@Tyson @Nanamamabjm You did exactly what anyone one of us would expect you to, you used resources available to better yourself and become a productive member of society. Government programs are not evil, but ignoring the fact that there are 2nd 3rd and probably 4th generation welfare recipients is a real problem.Â
@Tyson You used the programs the way they were meant to be used, as assistance, not as a way to not have to get out there and work to have what you need and want.  I don't see them as an evil thing either.  I used government assistance to get my education as well.  I'm very glad when hearing there are people who are doing it right Tyson.  But for every one of you. . . how many are not?
@Nanamamabjm Well I can only speak from experience for myself. I grew up in a lower middle class family and have used government programs for my college education, to help buy a house and I was on welfare when my (divorced) Mom had breast cancer. I really don't see government programs as a horrible evil. The College and House loan I have to pay back with interest and wasn't just handed to me. I think without these programs to help me get ahead I'd probably lean more towards crime. But I didn't grow up dirt poor or black (if that matters), so maybe we're not comparing apples to apples.
@Tyson @Goodwin@Goodwin @Tyson It isn't just teenage black girls Goodwin.  It is many, many, many white girls having all white or half black or brown children while the really smart black girls are picking up all the good black and white college boys and waiting until they can afford to feed their children before having them.  And before people jump on me, two of my girls are married/and or in a relationship with black men and have children.  It's this whole thing today where the gangsta culture is being venerated and seen as something good and acceptable.
@Tyson @Goodwin actually, sure the government will pay white teenage girls to have babies too... as a matter of fact, its easy, have more babies get more money...
@Goodwin @Tyson Is the government not paying white teenage girls to have babies? You seem to have all the easy answers. Your logic is skewed..... sorry.
@Goodwin the poor are a result of greed mongering republicans,20 years of trickle down economics have gutted the middle class. if you look real hard at at those welfare collecting underclasses,you will see the middle class that use to thrive in america before the republicans turned america into a giant underpaid walmart.so miss goodwin go ahead and clutch your guns real hard ,for the next time your home is broken into it might be by your neighbour that use to live next door .
@David Janssen give it a rest already, no wonder you are struggling with these concepts. Who is the more greedy? those that actually worked for what they now have or the ones screaming for them to give up what they worked for for those that didnt? The whole system is messed up, so here is a concept, take advantage of your education, and strive to overcome the obstacles in your life. The successful people out there have done just that. There are truly needy people out there that cannot support themselves, but the more abuses from those that can the less likely these truly needy will get help in the future. Welfare should not be a lifetime entitlement...
@David Janssen The CEO has the experience and education to direct an entire company, a job I certainly would not want and am not qualified for. A warehouse worker is paid to move product in the warehouse so, why the confusion in the pay? Are some of them worth $4 mil? some probably arent, and some just may be depending on how they keep on top of the changing business environment. But if they dont improve the company, they will be looking for a new job soon enough...
@Nanamamabjm @David Janssen to true, i dont like name calling. you and susabelle are spirited debaters,and i have to remember that we are adults and should debate in a respectful manner.bye for now
@David Janssen Ranting?  How about a good grown up spirited discussion without name calling and judgment?
@David Janssen Careful there Janssen.  You're starting to sound like one of them there right wing nut jobs. . .Â
@Susabelle @David Janssen how so unless you are yourself religious,and its ranting that we are all doing.you are ranting i am ranting,i dont believe a ceo of a company needs to make millions, while the support workers make peanuts.
@David Janssen wow, espousing the virtues of greed? Is that what you got out of that? I guess I need to work on my communication skills. As far as accepting christ into my heart? Really? because I believe if you can work you should? That sometimes its hard but unless you persevere in your own trials you are doomed to failure? unbelievable... please dont take up the religious rant, you will loose that one my dear.
@Nanamamabjm @David Janssen i had a cup of coffee,dark roast.
@David Janssen Thought you were done Janssen?
@Susabelle if you espousing the virtues of greed, then i dont want any of it.i am a christian, and we believe it is better to give than to receive.maybe you should accept christ into your heart,then you will be able shrug off the devils cloak.in the future is see, everybody has enough to eat and a place to live,i hope you would feel the same
@David Janssen Who cares where they came from...if they come through the door, they get smoked. One less public assistance recipient. One less democrat.Â
@bagsofdirt @David Janssen i am so sorry your candidate mitt romney lost the election,now go bury your head in the sand until the next election.
@David Janssen A very large part of being poor has more to do with being LAZY.  Not getting an education. And having little or no parental guidance. And I'm not a republican.
@Susabelle @David Janssen @Nanamamabjm i like spaghetti
or a left wing nutjob. Â :) Â Not even close.
@David Janssen @Nanamamabjm I guess turning millions of low skill jobs into high paying jobs decades ago wasnt such a good idea either it seems...
@Nanamamabjm @David Janssen i guess turning millions of good paying jobs, into minimum wage slave labor jobs had nothing to do with it then.their are many factors into why poor people are poor,but without good stable well paying jobs people have to settle for the dregs. college is so expensive anymore, that even when you do graduate you in debt up to your eyeballs.
@Goodwin Since most of the people on welfare are in Red states, I think you should re-evaluate that.
@the tide  Ah, the old "more welfare in red states" straw man. How unoriginal and fallacious.Â
@the tide @Goodwin She's right on the mark....
@the tide @Goodwin Can you back that up with documentation tide???
@the tide @Nanamamabjm  That would be "cite" them tide.  And I could if you'd like me to.  I just don't have a problem with anal retention.
@Nanamamabjm @the tide And yet you don't site them and they go against every news article I've seen.
@the tide I did, and I also found a listing, per capita, of how many welfare recipients there are state by state.  The top twenty on that list is quite different from what you provided in your link.  D.C. is #1, WA is #10, CA is #5, but another article I found said they were #1 with 34% of all welfare recipients living there when they only contain 12% of the total population of our country.  New York is #20, but actually leads the country in per capita spending.  If you look at it per capita, you see a much differently colored picture of red and blue states.  I'm sure the same skewing could be done with the other link you provide on pregnancy and obesity.  We can find whatever we want on the internet, can't we?  And because we found it, therefore, it must be true.
http://articles.businessinsider.com/2011-08-18/politics/30039546_1_blue-states-federal-taxes-red-states
There are many studies on this, google it.
http://thecentristword.wordpress.com/2012/04/11/welfare-teenage-pregnancy-and-obesity-reach-epidemic-levels-in-red-states-is-this-the-gop-blueprint-for-america/
Red states are also higher in teen pregnancy and obesity.