Longtime Seattle school supporters struggle to back new levy

SEATTLE - Carole Martens can't recall a school bond election she didn't support. She's lived in her Northeast Seattle home since 1965. Her kids have gone through the Seattle Public Schools system. Two of her grandkids currently go to Thornton Creek Elementary. She's worked on a number of school levies. She's even been asked by levy committees in the past to write op-ed support pieces. But for the first time ever, Martens says she simply can't check "Yes" on the district's capital levy plan.
"It's painful. And when I spoke to the school board, I told them it was with great pain and dismay that I was not going to support the levy," Martens says. "But when you don't see any other way to get their attention, it seems to be the only way."
Last week, more than 405,000 ballots were mailed to Seattle voters for February's special school bond election. On the ballot are two Seattle school district levies.
Proposition No. 1, totaling $551.9 million, would replace an expiring levy until 2016, and help pay for school programs, teachers, instructional assistants, textbooks, classroom supplies, student transportation, the things students and schools need on a daily basis in order to operate.
In addition to the Operations Levy, voters are also being asked to vote "yes" on a $694.9 million Capital Levy for Building Excellence IV (BEX IV). If approved, Proposition No. 2 would provide money for safety projects and earthquake upgrades at 37 schools, building and renovations at 11 elementary schools, one middle school, and one K-8 school, and maintenance at a number of other schools. District officials say renewal of this levy is necessary to handle the 7,000 students expected to enroll over the next 10 years.
But, it's several projects on the BEX IV list Martens says she and other long-time school district supporters, can't justify, including building an additional elementary school next door to Thornton Creek, on the neighborhood sports field.
"People who have for 30 to 40 years voted 'yes' on every issue are saying 'no' to this," she says. "It's a lot of money. Should taxpayer dollars go for something that doesn't seem reasonable in a time where dollars are hard to come by?"
Preserving Neighborhood History
Martens' neighborhood is one of several throughout the city with yard signs up opposing Prop. 2. In fact, some may have noticed signs posted along roadways with a picture of Chief Joseph, reading "No on Prop 2."
The signs are the work of campaign group, 'Good Schools - No Prop 2', created by Chris Jackins and the Seattle Committee to Save Schools.
Jackins says he understands the district is facing large enrollment numbers but he doesn't believe in tearing down neighborhood buildings to create what he calls "mega-schools".
"Building 650 seat schools takes away from neighborhood schools and draws neighborhood school students away," Jackins said. "If the boiler breaks in your home you don't tear down your home and start over, you repair it."
One of the buildings he is referring to is Wilson Pacific, site of a former school, which now houses the American Indian Heritage Middle College Program. The building is slated for demolition if Prop. 2 passes and would be replaced with a new elementary school and middle school by 2017.
The yard signs with the picture of Chief Joseph were taken from a series of murals painted on Wilson Pacific by Andrew Morrison, a local Native American artist.
Morrison was approached several months ago by Jackins and asked to use his work on their campaign signs. Both Jackins and Morrison say the murals play a vital role in preserving a slice of cultural history for the neighborhood. While the district is reportedly working with Morrison to create digital reproductions of his work that would be reprinted on the walls of the new buildings, Morrison says the original pieces would be lost forever.
"I believe in preserving the original," Morrison said. "It's a focal point in the community."
But it's the current state of the Wilson Pacific building - with asbestos warnings plastered on walls, electrical wires hanging from the ceiling, and broken pipes exposed - that's driving district officials to urge the community for capital levy support.
Putting a Price on Enrollment
The total price tag between the two levies is $1.25 billion. Greg Wong, president of Schools First, the campaign organization that works to gain support for Seattle School levies, says while both levies are up for renewal there is an increase in the amount of money taxpayers will be paying if approved.
"The projections we saw from the district for an average homeowner with a $400,000 home would be about $13 more a month total," Wong said in an earlier interview. "We understand it's still tough; we're still coming out of a recession, but we also need voters to understand this is a very important."
To meet the need for more capacity in Northeast Seattle, the district is proposing to build an additional K-5 school on the sports field next to Thornton Creek Elementary by 2016. According to Martens, the site has been a playground since the late 1960's and to see the neighborhood lose it forever would be devastating.
It's a sentiment shared by the Seattle Committee to Save Schools. In his opposition statement provided in the voter's pamphlet, Jackins says the district's plan to build six elementary schools would "…kill off neighborhood schools with Walmart-size elementary schools".
In an attempt to ease some of the concerns heard from Thornton Creek neighbors and the Wedgwood Open Space Neighborhood Coalition, the school board amended the language on the BEX IV project list to include the phrase "or equivalent additional seating capacity at another location." But Martens says they haven't heard anything more from the district or the board about actually finding an alternative site.
"We see evidence of surveys, stakes in the field - things that show us the pre-design on the sports field is moving forward," she said. "We haven't had any communication from the district that says they are serious about a new location."
It seems to be a different story among some parents in West Seattle, who say the district is working with them on opening a new Arbor Heights Elementary. The school was originally put on the BEX IV list for a new and expanded facility by 2018.
"The district held a press conference at our school and announced they are now targeting a 2016 move in date for Arbor Heights," said future Arbor Heights' parent, Jen Boyer. The district originally told our community they'd try to move it up and so far we've seen them taking strides to deliver."
According to Boyer, the active parent community at the West Seattle elementary school, including the PTA, is in complete support of Prop. 2 regardless of when their school is actually finished.
"At the end of the day we are all voting on money that the school district desperately needs to address critical issues in our public schools," Boyer said. "A vote for this levy is a vote in support of our children and our future."
Martens and Jackins agree opponents for Prop. 2 have their work cut out for them. Both levy votes only require a simple majority to pass and according to Schools First, voters in Seattle have not turned down a capital levy since 1995.
"If we could possibly defeat this Prop. 2 and ask the district to go back and look at some of the things that seem wrong, perhaps they can submit a better plan come April or May," Martens says.
Ballots must be postmarked by Feb. 12. King County expects a 37 percent voter turnout for the February special election.
When Silas Potter pays back the money he stole from the taxpayers, I will consider voting YES on a school levy. Â Until then, I will vote NO every time.
Why fund more schools that don't educate? Government schools (one size fits all) don't work. Parents should see to their own children's education. those who won't or can't then vouchers.
What will voters get for their $1.3 billion in terms of Seattle children graduating high school with comprehensive literacy, science and mathematics knowledge that those voters have not gotten from all the past levies they have approved in the past. Â
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Oh, and what's this about new school construction when in just the past several years Seattle has gone through the process of deciding which schools to close and consolidate? Â
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when they do build schools there is so much waste its terrible. I say NO
You complainers need a little dose of reality. Â Washington State doesn't adequately fund our schools. Â If we do not make up for it, class sizes will get larger and failing buildings will not be attended to. Â Period. Â If you want better representation on the school board, get people to run for that office who have a clue. Â Don't rip Seattle schools apart because you don't agree with their plan. Â Vote people into board positions with some experience, or let's decide to pay for professional board members who actually know how to run a large enterprise. Â We have a screwed up system, don't make it worse by bankrupting it.
@BH Herring Perhaps there are people out there that can't afford these huge levies. If a family is just holding on to their home right now it won't take much to push them over the edge. These schools didn't get this way overnight and they could have been replaced at a even pace over the years. The problem as I see it is that they felt the good times would be around forever and so these schools fell into disrepair and now when people are hit in the pocket book the hardest they want to start that which wouldn't have been a problem in the first place with a little bit of careful management of moneys over the years. I see the sports field has moved forward however.
A money grab by the unions.
Huh? What on earth are you talking about. These are two endeavors DRIVEN by the management and school board--not the union. Sure, the teachers all benefit, but it's not the union initiating this. Take it easy.
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 @B-Town Guy but it's not the union initiating this..." You have your head in the sand or somewhere to believe that.
This state hasn't done Sh#$%^&*(it on a shingle for our school districts of any kind!! They have closed schools!! Recently too!!
The money that comes in from the Washington State Lottery was supposed to fund our schools.........Millions upon millions of dollars have passed through the hands of those that blurt out these lies for years now.
NOTHING has been SPENT on our education and children!! NOTHING!!
IF SO PROVE IT!!
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I'm a property owner, and I'm used to being a piggy bank for King Co. and the city of Seattle. We don't have an income tax, so it only makes sense that they're going to go to the people with money first, which are property owners. I just wish people would stop talking about all the high taxes that they pay here when they are obviously paying nada, but love to complain anyway.Â
 @lakeview Well I own a home in Oregon where the property taxes are higher, in addition to our income taxes that are also among the highest in the nation. So, I find it very irritating that I get a ballot in King County to raise taxes on property owners when I shouldn't have a say since I am not affected.Â
 @Rae0224 No sales tax, but your income tax brackets approach the stupid level of California.
 @Rae0224 No, I don't really like it, but this is part of democrazy (pun intended).Â
 @lakeview Exactly. And, our property taxes are higher. You mean to tell me you think it is okay for people (tenants) to vote for something they are essentially not affected by in terms of their wallets?
Okay, I just moved to Seattle five months ago and registered to vote in King County in order to vote in the presidential election. However, last week I get a ballot in the mail at my rental place. I find it absolutely ridiculous that I got a ballot and am able to vote for this levy...I am a RENTER, not the home owner. It actually infuriates me that renters, not property owners - who are the ones ACTUALLY affected by the levy - are able to vote. So typical that they allow non-property owners to vote for something that absolutely doesn't affect their wallet.Â
 @Rae0224 Think about it. The tax rate will get passed along in the form of higher rent. So who doesn't it affect again? By the way.Tthat doesn't make me automatically against a levy.
 @Rae0224 Actually Property owners by default never pay increases. Its always the renter that pays the difference. I know first hand. Also regardless of who pays, The changes that are put into affect by a bill affect ever single person in the community, so it would be completely elitist to assume that only wealthy persons (home owners) could be allowed to vote. This is exactly how tyranny begins and ends. Its always the land barons that destroyed societies, WE cannot allow ourselves to fall back into the same trap as before.
 @snow surfer "Wealthy people (home owners)." What a joke! You think all people who own homes are wealthy? I don't mean to be rude, but you probably also think anyone who makes $100k per year is also "wealthy?"
 @Rae0224 According to the US census bureau, Average median household income (this includes all incomes within the home for ages 15 years and older) for Washington state is between 50 and 59000 dollars a year. So if your talking a homeowner with a single income of 100 grand, then your not poor.Â
@Rae0224 Actually, either way, this will affect your wallet. My previous landlords made up the difference by raising my rent every time property taxes went up because of these levies. Any approved levies got passed off to me instead of the property owner (landlord) handling it. I even had one landlord threaten me that if I voted for any levies, that he definitely would raise my rent. Not sure how he thought he would find out how I voted though...
 @robmo  @Rae0224 Great...I guess you cant blame the landlord. I blame the city. They have enough govt. workers sitting around their county offices with very nice pay check. They should be able to handle verifying that only ballots go out to home owners, not renters.Â
 @Rae0224  @robmo It's not a mistake, everyone gets a vote.Â
Normally i too vote for just about every school funding related ballot measure. But i just can't with this one. All comes down to two things.
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1. The school district needs to tighten it's belt. There is just too much waste going on right now. I went through Seattle schools in the 80's and 90's from 1st-12th grade and witnessed it first hand. Too much is spent on things that aren't related to teaching the kids. And too much emphasis is put on testing. I left highschool with absolutely no clue what i wanted to do with my life. And that was the norm for most students sadly. Would say at least a few thousand a year per student was just wasted on things that ddin't matter, or didn't help students grow. So yeah, we need to adjust how we teach kids. At least at the higher levels of public education. I will say, elementary school was pretty well done though. It's just middle and high school where things got wasteful and less meaningful.
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2. I'm sick and tired of every time the city needs to fund something, they look at homeowners. Not a year goes by now that we aren't raising property taxes by $100-200 a year for the average homeowner. I would be looking at another $190 or so if this passes in property taxes and it would put me over $4,000 a year. I would be TOTALLY fine if we made this an across the board thing. It's just not cool in these times to be raising property taxes on the middle-class homeowners who are struggling to maintain. At the very least make it so the tax hike is only going to houses that cost over $1m or something like that. So it's not hurting anyone who can't afford it. Cause right now, i have to work a full day each month($300 roughly) just to pay my property taxes. While it's not a crippling blow, it definitely stings, and makes it harder to save, harder to repair the house, harder to etc etc etc.
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So yeah, Seattle, please find another way that doesn't rely on making me pay an even larger share than i already am.
 @Aidenag I completely agree with your second point. As a homeowner I'm also sick and tired of being targeted when the city needs money. If they put their noggins together and came up with a creative solution I just might support the levy, but automatically slamming homeowners as an afterthought is lame.
I voted no on the last levy, even with a couple of kids in Seattle schools (and future kids) and I am not sure what I will do on this one. The amount of waste and poor planning in this district is astounding, I feel like I am just feeding a bad habit with my own funding. If they were to demonstrate proper stewardship of the money given to them I would feel much differently. I support teachers and schools but it may take a failing levy to get the attention of this arrogant institution.Â
 @Bubbleator Don't screw our kids because you don't like the administration.  Time to get paid professionals on the school board who know how to run a large enterprise.  The people we have on the board already have full time work elsewhere.  Time for better, professional oversight.
 @BH Herring I am so with you on paying a school board, the amount spent on salaries to hire a professional board would be far less than the amount of waste. If that had been included with the levy this would be easy.
More money does not equal better education.
 @al_wa While I agree with you, Seattle Schools are underfunded.  Expecting our schools to run on 25% less operating/capital costs is unrealistic.  Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater, time to improve the system.  Don't sacrifice those already in the system to make a point.  Stupid plan.
"People who have for 30 to 40 years voted 'yes' on every issue are saying 'no' to this" did they even wonder what happened to the money over the last 30-40 years. Â This is one of the problems that have gotten us into this problem the government kept getting money when ever they wanted it and never figured out how to work within what they have coming in. Â When I wanted a house I saved I didn't ask my employer to give me more money for it.
Why would anyone trust them with more money after that embezzlement scandal? Vote no on any more money to the school district until every administrator who was there during that is gone!
 @NW-Economist Simple conclusions for simple people.  Let's see, they lost $250,000 (which insurance covered) and the levies are nearly $1.25 billion over six years.  If the local Safeway or QFC lost that small a percentage in theft and spoilage they'd be dancing in the streets.
 @BH Herring Actually it was almost 2 million and it's not clear if insurance will cover it. Get your facts straight before shooting your mouth off, though from previous posts on here I guess I shouldn't expect that from you.Â