Roommate: Accused Ore. mall shooter had 'weird look'
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PORTLAND, Ore. (AP) - Before police say Jacob Tyler Roberts walked into a mall wearing a hockey-style mask, shooting numerous rounds that killed two and injured a teenage girl, he visited the brother of his roommate, hugged him and told him he was going "somewhere south, somewhere warm."
The roommate, 26-year-old Jaime Eheler, also said when Roberts left the house they shared, "he had a weird look on his face."
Hours later three people were dead, including Roberts, who shot himself after the Tuesday rampage.
Although officials have not yet revealed a motive, a clearer picture of Roberts is emerging. His mother died of cancer when he was young, he was thrown out of his aunt's house as a teenager and had lived with Eheler's family for a while, and he had told friends of plans to live in Hawaii for a year.
"I never saw this young man raise his voice," Eheler said, sobbing. "I've seen him sad, I've seen him hurt. I've never seen him mad."
The Clackamas County sheriff's office said Roberts had several fully loaded magazines when he arrived at the mall Tuesday as thousands did their Christmas shopping. Roberts parked his 1996 Volkswagen Jetta in front of the second-floor entrance to Macy's and walked through the store into the mall and began firing randomly in the food court, authorities said.
He fatally shot Steven Mathew Forsyth, 45, and Cindy Ann Yuille, 54, the sheriff said. Kristina Shevchenko, 15, was wounded and in serious condition Thursday.
Eheler said Roberts had recently quit his job at a gyro shop in Portland, sold all of his belongings, and put his car up for sale on Craigslist in advance of his planned move to Hawaii.
She said that his decision to move to the islands caught her by surprise, but only a little bit. She said he told her he planned to live off the interest of an inheritance that he had invested, and that he planned to return on Oct. 25, 2013.
"He's adventurous," she said. "That's who he is."
Roberts' ex-girlfriend, Hannah Patricia Sansburn, told ABC World News with Diane Sawyer that he was supposed to catch a flight Saturday, but told her he got drunk and had missed it.
The owner of Big Bertha's, where Roberts most recently worked, threw a going away party for him last week.
"His nickname there at the shop was 'The Kid,'" said Thomas Illk, father of Tommy Illk, who owns the shop. "Tommy is just devastated. He was like a little brother to him."
Police say Roberts had stolen an AR-15 rifle from someone he knew. Authorities said that after the shootings, Roberts fled along a mall corridor and into a back hallway, down stairs and into a corner where police found him dead from an apparent self-inflicted gunshot.
The shooting confounds Eheler. She said she knew that Roberts had gone target practice shooting in the past, but she said there were no guns in her house, and she'd never seen him with one.
"I can't wrap my mind around it, I can't understand," she said. "I sit here and think, and I think, and I think, and I can't come up with one reason why he would do this."
Eheler said that she later learned that he had stopped at her brother Tyler's home on the way to the mall. Tyler Eheler and Roberts had been best friends since high school, she said.
"He came in and hung out for a minute and told him that he had to go and that he didn't want to," she said, and added that he gave her brother a bracelet that he always wore, and hugged him. "He told him he was just going somewhere south, somewhere warm and not to tell me or my boyfriend that he had left until the next day."
Eheler said her brother was devastated and was not granting interviews.
Another friend who said she had known Roberts since middle school, Shania Riley, described him as a "very compassionate and very caring person." Roberts could also be "mysterious" and "kind of a troublemaker."
"Like being young, skipping class, smoking pot out back - teenager stuff," Riley said. Everything seemed fine when she saw him at a bar last week, she said.
The only odd moment Riley could recall came about six months ago when she and her boyfriend were at Roberts' apartment "and he was pulling out guns and showing them to us."
She recalled seeing two handguns and what might have been a .22-caliber rifle.
Still, Riley didn't find it alarming. Roberts said he used them for target practice out in the hills, she recalled.
Benjamin Eshbach said he used to play chess with Roberts when he was general manager of a music theater next door to the gyro shop.
"He was very good," Eshbach said, noting they played on the community chess board in the shop.
Eshbach said Roberts had bought a pistol about a year ago, and used to shoot it in the woods when he went camping.
"A lot of people are thinking he was fixated on things like that. That couldn't be further from the truth," Eshbach said.
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Contributing to this report were Associated Press writers Tim Fought, Jonathan J. Cooper, Nigel Duara, and Sarah Skidmore in Portland, and Jeff Barnard in Grants Pass, Ore., along with researcher Rhonda Shafner.
The roommate, 26-year-old Jaime Eheler, also said when Roberts left the house they shared, "he had a weird look on his face."
Hours later three people were dead, including Roberts, who shot himself after the Tuesday rampage.
Although officials have not yet revealed a motive, a clearer picture of Roberts is emerging. His mother died of cancer when he was young, he was thrown out of his aunt's house as a teenager and had lived with Eheler's family for a while, and he had told friends of plans to live in Hawaii for a year.
"I never saw this young man raise his voice," Eheler said, sobbing. "I've seen him sad, I've seen him hurt. I've never seen him mad."
The Clackamas County sheriff's office said Roberts had several fully loaded magazines when he arrived at the mall Tuesday as thousands did their Christmas shopping. Roberts parked his 1996 Volkswagen Jetta in front of the second-floor entrance to Macy's and walked through the store into the mall and began firing randomly in the food court, authorities said.
He fatally shot Steven Mathew Forsyth, 45, and Cindy Ann Yuille, 54, the sheriff said. Kristina Shevchenko, 15, was wounded and in serious condition Thursday.
Eheler said Roberts had recently quit his job at a gyro shop in Portland, sold all of his belongings, and put his car up for sale on Craigslist in advance of his planned move to Hawaii.
She said that his decision to move to the islands caught her by surprise, but only a little bit. She said he told her he planned to live off the interest of an inheritance that he had invested, and that he planned to return on Oct. 25, 2013.
"He's adventurous," she said. "That's who he is."
Roberts' ex-girlfriend, Hannah Patricia Sansburn, told ABC World News with Diane Sawyer that he was supposed to catch a flight Saturday, but told her he got drunk and had missed it.
The owner of Big Bertha's, where Roberts most recently worked, threw a going away party for him last week.
"His nickname there at the shop was 'The Kid,'" said Thomas Illk, father of Tommy Illk, who owns the shop. "Tommy is just devastated. He was like a little brother to him."
Police say Roberts had stolen an AR-15 rifle from someone he knew. Authorities said that after the shootings, Roberts fled along a mall corridor and into a back hallway, down stairs and into a corner where police found him dead from an apparent self-inflicted gunshot.
The shooting confounds Eheler. She said she knew that Roberts had gone target practice shooting in the past, but she said there were no guns in her house, and she'd never seen him with one.
"I can't wrap my mind around it, I can't understand," she said. "I sit here and think, and I think, and I think, and I can't come up with one reason why he would do this."
Eheler said that she later learned that he had stopped at her brother Tyler's home on the way to the mall. Tyler Eheler and Roberts had been best friends since high school, she said.
"He came in and hung out for a minute and told him that he had to go and that he didn't want to," she said, and added that he gave her brother a bracelet that he always wore, and hugged him. "He told him he was just going somewhere south, somewhere warm and not to tell me or my boyfriend that he had left until the next day."
Eheler said her brother was devastated and was not granting interviews.
Another friend who said she had known Roberts since middle school, Shania Riley, described him as a "very compassionate and very caring person." Roberts could also be "mysterious" and "kind of a troublemaker."
"Like being young, skipping class, smoking pot out back - teenager stuff," Riley said. Everything seemed fine when she saw him at a bar last week, she said.
The only odd moment Riley could recall came about six months ago when she and her boyfriend were at Roberts' apartment "and he was pulling out guns and showing them to us."
She recalled seeing two handguns and what might have been a .22-caliber rifle.
Still, Riley didn't find it alarming. Roberts said he used them for target practice out in the hills, she recalled.
Benjamin Eshbach said he used to play chess with Roberts when he was general manager of a music theater next door to the gyro shop.
"He was very good," Eshbach said, noting they played on the community chess board in the shop.
Eshbach said Roberts had bought a pistol about a year ago, and used to shoot it in the woods when he went camping.
"A lot of people are thinking he was fixated on things like that. That couldn't be further from the truth," Eshbach said.
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Contributing to this report were Associated Press writers Tim Fought, Jonathan J. Cooper, Nigel Duara, and Sarah Skidmore in Portland, and Jeff Barnard in Grants Pass, Ore., along with researcher Rhonda Shafner.
KOMO Staff, instead of focusing on the murderer, could please post an article about the victims, their families, if they need anything and how we can help them?
KOMO....Can we archive this broken-record story please?!?!? **facepalm**
 @TreeTopFlyer You know, SOME of us care about what happened to peple there and why. You're probably one of those that figure any random sports story is of vastly more importance.
@Commenter87643 ...Yes and you are probably one of "those" that is aways WRONG about your judgemental assumptions....you zombie!
 @TreeTopFlyer  @Commenter87643 ttf, this junk individual needs to be out of the news. I agree. It's been constant... he had this problem... he had that crazy life... he seemed normal... his mommy doesn't understand... he wanted to be a marine.... good god amighty... come on KOMO... next you'll be putting him up for sainthood...
I hope he has gone "some place South, some place warm."Â Burning in Hell that is.
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Instead of glorifying what a nice guy this was, I'd really like to see some real info on what behaviors the regular schmoes like us can look for with our kids, friends or family that might be tell-tell signs that something like this can happen. People that snap like this usually display certain behaviors that would get dismissed by someone who wouldn't know what to look for.
@The WA Mama
This article stresses that individuals with mental illness are more likely to be victims of violence than perpetrators of violence, as well as acknowledges the impact of trauma in childhood development
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http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/776553
 @The WA Mama Nobody's 'glorifying' him. People are trying to figure out WHY a guy like this would suddenly do such a terrible thing, hoping that in with the rest of it, there will be a clue, just like you claim you'd like to have.
@Commenter87643 Wow! Got anger issues? You sure like to personally attack people on here alot.
 @The WA Mama  @Commenter87643 yeah yeah yeah...laughing!
People generally don't just snap and a switch wasn't suddenly activated. Actions like this generally take planning. If you look back at cases where you think "wow, this is a family person who just lost it", the investigators find all sorts of info going way back as to their inclinations. Certain types of people are very good at acting out a "normal" life and that's why friends and neighbors can't believe it and always think the person was a "nice guy" or "normal" guy. Obviously he wasn't nice or normal, not in the things that matter.
I'm sorry but I hate the fact that HIS picture is the first thing we see on your home page. Really Komo? Yes, there are many who want to learn about who he was and why he did it....but why not give that home page coverage to his victims? The innocent lives lost? I'd rather see their faces and hear their stories then look at this deviant, heartless evil man.
A few days ago I posted about the black football player who went on a rampage and killed his family. I said he may have had psychological issues, but that's never brought up with black killers kill. And people called me every racist name invented. Now I'm reading post on hear already stating how sad it is that this white guy may have had issues too! I hate hypocrites.
 @Hehateme Nobody is calling him a white guy; you are the only one here obsessing over race. The victims aren't any less dead because a white person, black person or plaid person murdered them.
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You'll never figure anything out in life if you fixate on bizarre little details like color where an educated person would try to find out what went wrong in this man's head, and when (if at all) little danger signs started appearing in his behavior, speech, mood, interests, etc.Â
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Do you also need to know what the shooter and/or his victims were wearing when it happened. or what make, model and color vehicle they drove?Â
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if he's white I'm purple please..
I hate when these clowns kill others than kill themselves. A National law should be passed stating that Mass Murderers can not have a formal funeral. There bodies should thrown in the woods for the animals to feed off of them.
There can always be a first time, and this guy did it in the worst way. Â I'm not even going to waste my time reading the story. Â Nothing amazes me anymore. Â People just snap.
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This doesn't make what happened any better. Â He killed people and I feel sorry for the family going through this hard time right now, but I can't sympathize with the killer.
Iv'e said this before and I'll keep saying it until people consider the correlation between video games and increased violence in our youth.
 @keri555 There are so many factors in our society working together. A person with a loving heart and a firm connection to other human beings does not get unhinged just by playing violent video games. But we do seem to have such a fixation on violence these days. I think there is more of a problem with the breakdown of the mother-infant bond, kids raised in crappy daycare, they are disconnected from humanity. We also have very few options for dealing with mental illness.
 @keri555 if things like the grand theft auto games and marylin manson caused people to kill, i would have been in prison 15 years ago.
 @keri555 If that were the case 99% of kids would be out there killing people. This sounds more like mental illness that reached a peak and sadly went under everyone's radar as it was developing.
 @keri555 I disagree. Video games you shoot people and keep going...he had several magazines and could have shot lots of people before being shot himself. He did not act like someone in a video game.
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There is more of a correlation between the attention the media gives these people and the crimes. If it got no media attention, people would not get the idea, or know their "ideas" would be broadcast across the country for days.
Friend: Accused Ore. mall shooter was 'never violent'
igitur sine dubio: The gun has taken him for a ride.
 @Komo Dragon Getting sneaky and throwing Latin in there huh?
He was a nice guy. Oh yeah, except for that little trying to kill everyone part.
Why does KOMO always try to glorify killers and other criminals?
Well he obviously went crazy, sometimes a switch goes off in someones head.Â
I'd like to hear more about the circumstances surrounding the stolen rifle but that topic evidently does not interest any of the reporters covering this story. Instead we get the boring and predictable stream of losers talking about how they never predicted this blah blah blah. Typically lazy reporting.
@PilonidalCyst From what I understand, he stole the rifle from an aquaintance who legally owned the gun and had no idea this guy had stolen the gun until after the fact. I can't see any reason to drag him through the mud for that.
 @Surveyor1  @PilonidalCyst Yah, from what I've been reading, he actually seemed to have 'borrowed' the gun and not returned it when expected to, instead using it to shoot up the mall, and I agree that the gun owner doesn't really need drug through the mud for it.
Get this trash off of your front page.Â
Lost soul. Sounds as though those that knew him did in fact see many signs of danger, or at least causes for serious concern, but for whatever reason did not see any patterns. Their expression of that level of surprise is something I find pretty odd because whatever they did not see beforehand should have come together pretty quickly in their minds after the shooting. The one named Sansburn got close to that epiphany, but even he fell a little short.
Well, takes an AR-15 into a mall and starts going Rambo, âNever been violentâ Wow, what the hell is your interpretation of violent?
 @dkgiovenco It means he had never been violent before that moment...come on now, not that hard to figure out. Â
 @dkgiovenco Is this really such a difficult concept, they are obviously referring to his life before this incident.
 @oledawg  @dkgiovenco His life before the incident = NO ONE CARES.  He did a heartless thing killing 2 innocent people that did nothing to him.  This guy needs no more news coverage.  Grieve for the voctims' families that lost loved ones instead.  Let's hear about their lives, not his.
 @dkgiovenco Do you have reading comprehension issues? He had never been violent in the past. Obviously he was violent at the mall.  They are talking about in the past. He has no arrests or any other indications of violent behavior at all. Â
There was 2 red flags in that article that some thing was wrong "Roberts had recently quit his job at a gyro shop in Portland and sold all of his belongings"
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From what they are saying yea he wanted to move to Hawaii- but I know hind sight 20/20- but I doubt he had the means to actually move to Hawaii- why his family didn't pick up on that I don't know. He was a troubled person, I just will never understand why people feel the need to take people with them. The 2 people killed along with everyone else in that mall were innocent. They did NOTHING to this person. This has "suicide and I am not going alone" written all over it.Â
 @Nicole P The means? a one way plane ticket costs around $200 to $300, I'm sure he would have been able to come up with that. I don't think your red flags stand out.
It's too bad there wasn't an Open Carrier or Concealed Carrier that could have taken him down before he killed 2 and injured 1.
@NorthwestEconomist obviously, more douchebags with guns is always the answer.
@fizzbeau Got a better answer? If someone is about to shoot you would you rather have your mommy there with a tissue or someone that can actually help?
 @fizzbeau  @NorthwestEconomist So what you are saying is everyone with a gun is a douchebag? If not then what are you saying? Its hard to fathom your comment either way.
 @fizzbeau Well, "douchebags" are the problem then, but responsible citizens are not.
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 @fizzbeau  @NorthwestEconomist Yeah, because only cops should carry guns right (dripping sarcasm), after all, you can trust cops to always protect everyone and always do the right thing! Just look at SPD...
http://www.theonion.com/articles/authorities-not-even-going-to-bother-looking-for-m,30708/
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Enough said.
 @belsnickles Sheesh that guy should be promoted! Honestly I am sorry innocent people got killed by this prick in his rage to check out of this world...honestly everyone has those days when you just go sheesh why me blah blah blah this would be easier if I was gone mess... it is called life... live and learn for tomorrow and learn from your mistakes and don't repeat them ever again! ... why there is such a uptick in these people who feel they are important enough that if they do really want to off themselves that they insist on taking others with them...he may have been a great person to his friends and never shown any warning signs but sheesh all that matters to me is in the end is this POS killed innocent and random people who never hurt him directly and that makes him a real P.O.S. who is not worth the paper/power/time it takes to say anything else about him... forget about him life goes on for everyone but his innocent victims!
 @belsnickles THAT is a great story.  I would buy that as REAL truth to post.
LOL THX!