Minority youth more often in state courts than whites

SEATTLE (AP) - Minority youth are arrested and in the Washington state's court system more often than their white counterparts, a recent study commissioned by the state Supreme Court shows. But researchers said counties aren't keeping complete data on ethnicity and the gap between minority and while youth is larger.
Between 2007 and 2011, African-American youth were nearly 250 percent more likely to be referred to juvenile court for prosecution than their white counterparts. Their ratio is followed by Native American youth, which are 80 percent more likely more likely to be deferred. Overall, minority youth are 22 percent more likely to be deferred.
To determine the ratio, researchers calculated the number of minority youth in a particular aspect of juvenile law and the overall population of each county.
In arrests, minority youth were nearly 85 percent more likely to be arrested than white youth statewide, the study found. But researchers said that number is likely much higher because counties count Latinos as white in their record keeping. Latino is an ethnicity, not a race.
Sarah Veele, one of the researchers from the Washington State Center for Court Research, said there isn't a federal or state requirement for local agencies to track ethnicity in their juvenile arrest data, so Latinos are put in the "white" category.
Researchers looked at eight categories, ranging from arrests to diversion program enrollments. Still, about 40 percent of all cases were missing data on whether the youth was Latino and 5 percent of cases had no indicator of race or ethnicity.
"Increasing the quality of data collected by courts is key to fully understanding how and where racial and ethnic inequality arises," Chief Justice Barbara Madsen said in a statement.
Once minority and white youth get to sentencing, the disparities begin to even out, Veele said, because judges usually follow sentencing guidelines.
"What we're seeing is that the disparities are occurring earlier, such as arrests, referrals to juvenile court, and as you get deeper the outcomes are relatively comparable," Veele said.
Veele said this particular study lacks other data points, including severity of charges and crimes as well as criminal history of the youth. She is hoping this study prompts consideration of more complete record keeping among local agencies. The researchers released county-by-county data inform local authorities of what they have and don't have in their records.
To Enrique Gonzalez of the Seattle-based El Centro de la Raza, the findings echo something that he sees in his job. As a juvenile justice advocate, he works with dozens of teenagers from Seattle, including many that have brushes with the law. For him, by the time youth come in contact with police, it's already late in the problem.
"The problem really starts early," Gonzalez said. We need to look at "the link between juvenile justice, kids incarcerated and the achievement gap in schools. Most of the kids who end up in the juvenile system have some sort of contact with school discipline beforehand."
Gonzalez said there is a bit of irony in the system, in that some programs for trouble youth don't kick in unless a judge sentences them.
Veele said counties such as Benton, Franklin, Spokane, Pierce, King and others have taken some remedial steps, but many counties don't have the resources.
Private organizations such as the Annie E. Casey Foundation and the MacArthur Foundation have provided money for studies and initiatives focused on alternatives to detention. The state has also chipped in.
Pierce County is one of the counties that has worked with the foundations. After examining their own data in 2003 and seeing disparities among African American youth, the county began seeking remedies, including axing pricey one-on-one therapy programs that weren't yielding results.
Now, Pierce County provides in-person visits to remind youth of court dates and transportation to court hearings if needed. They have also hired an African American therapist who works with African American youth exclusively.
"We don't want kids languishing in our system, hanging in limbo waiting for sentencing," said Shelly Maluo, Pierce County's Juvenile Court Administrator. "The more they are in limbo, the greater the chance they re-offend or not show up to court."
In Pierce County, African American youth are two and a half more likely to be arrested. Maluo acknowledges that more can be done to close the gaps.
But to Gonzalez, the data backs up what he hears from kids.
"They don't feel they're trusted or respected by law enforcement," Gonzalez said. "An officer is more likely to arrest a student of color rather than ask questions and talk things out."
A message to the Washington Association of Sheriffs and Police Chiefs, which provided the data on arrests, was not returned.
Between 2007 and 2011, African-American youth were nearly 250 percent more likely to be referred to juvenile court for prosecution than their white counterparts. Their ratio is followed by Native American youth, which are 80 percent more likely more likely to be deferred. Overall, minority youth are 22 percent more likely to be deferred.
To determine the ratio, researchers calculated the number of minority youth in a particular aspect of juvenile law and the overall population of each county.
In arrests, minority youth were nearly 85 percent more likely to be arrested than white youth statewide, the study found. But researchers said that number is likely much higher because counties count Latinos as white in their record keeping. Latino is an ethnicity, not a race.
Sarah Veele, one of the researchers from the Washington State Center for Court Research, said there isn't a federal or state requirement for local agencies to track ethnicity in their juvenile arrest data, so Latinos are put in the "white" category.
Researchers looked at eight categories, ranging from arrests to diversion program enrollments. Still, about 40 percent of all cases were missing data on whether the youth was Latino and 5 percent of cases had no indicator of race or ethnicity.
"Increasing the quality of data collected by courts is key to fully understanding how and where racial and ethnic inequality arises," Chief Justice Barbara Madsen said in a statement.
Once minority and white youth get to sentencing, the disparities begin to even out, Veele said, because judges usually follow sentencing guidelines.
"What we're seeing is that the disparities are occurring earlier, such as arrests, referrals to juvenile court, and as you get deeper the outcomes are relatively comparable," Veele said.
Veele said this particular study lacks other data points, including severity of charges and crimes as well as criminal history of the youth. She is hoping this study prompts consideration of more complete record keeping among local agencies. The researchers released county-by-county data inform local authorities of what they have and don't have in their records.
To Enrique Gonzalez of the Seattle-based El Centro de la Raza, the findings echo something that he sees in his job. As a juvenile justice advocate, he works with dozens of teenagers from Seattle, including many that have brushes with the law. For him, by the time youth come in contact with police, it's already late in the problem.
"The problem really starts early," Gonzalez said. We need to look at "the link between juvenile justice, kids incarcerated and the achievement gap in schools. Most of the kids who end up in the juvenile system have some sort of contact with school discipline beforehand."
Gonzalez said there is a bit of irony in the system, in that some programs for trouble youth don't kick in unless a judge sentences them.
Veele said counties such as Benton, Franklin, Spokane, Pierce, King and others have taken some remedial steps, but many counties don't have the resources.
Private organizations such as the Annie E. Casey Foundation and the MacArthur Foundation have provided money for studies and initiatives focused on alternatives to detention. The state has also chipped in.
Pierce County is one of the counties that has worked with the foundations. After examining their own data in 2003 and seeing disparities among African American youth, the county began seeking remedies, including axing pricey one-on-one therapy programs that weren't yielding results.
Now, Pierce County provides in-person visits to remind youth of court dates and transportation to court hearings if needed. They have also hired an African American therapist who works with African American youth exclusively.
"We don't want kids languishing in our system, hanging in limbo waiting for sentencing," said Shelly Maluo, Pierce County's Juvenile Court Administrator. "The more they are in limbo, the greater the chance they re-offend or not show up to court."
In Pierce County, African American youth are two and a half more likely to be arrested. Maluo acknowledges that more can be done to close the gaps.
But to Gonzalez, the data backs up what he hears from kids.
"They don't feel they're trusted or respected by law enforcement," Gonzalez said. "An officer is more likely to arrest a student of color rather than ask questions and talk things out."
A message to the Washington Association of Sheriffs and Police Chiefs, which provided the data on arrests, was not returned.
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"Minorities" are not just people of color.. you have vets, handicaped, crippled, senior citizens, homosexuals etc. All are part of the "protected classes" of people. Color, sex, ethnic back ground, or sexual preference should never be looked at in any part of today's society. If you really want equality.. then start living that way and stop drawing lines in the sand!
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Stop the insanity already!
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Do you guys even read the article or do you just rant your to read your own hate-based reasoning. Â Its a good article. Â It kind of makes your silly "enforcement is even, its just minorities offend more" claim look...well stupid. Â Because the POINT OF THE ARTICLE IS THAT ENFORCEMENT IS BEING DONE BY RACE.
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IF a white kid commits a crime he is several times less likely to be arrested than if a black kid is even SUSPECTED of commiting a crime in Washington. Â How is that 'even'?
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This is BS..
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  When are all of you going to finally throw that poor me I'm this or that attitude out the window? Gee, did the article say inner city kids vs. suburbia kids.. etc. etc. NO it didn't. So it leaves out several factors in itself!
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  In fact if you look at statistics most crimes are committed "inner city" Where the main population is what? Sorry, if you can't do the time, don't do the crime! The ratio to crimes committed in different areas needs to be stated and it hardly touches on it
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   We just reelected our first black president to his 2nd term in office that was raised by his grandparents and his father from Kenya was no where in the picture. Did he make the right choices or the wrong choices?
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  Here is another ignorant statement... "Most serial killers are white, why are white people being profiled and not others from different racial back grounds?" Sounds stupid right? It is!
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It's articles like that this that keep prejudice and racial tentions alive and well. Here is a thought.. WE ARE ALL MINORITIES! Get over the past 300 years of things that happened to your ancestors and start living in today's society!
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I don't care what color you are, you have the CHOICE to be or not to be a productive part of society. I'm so tired of I'm this or I'm that cause of this and because of that. Quit looking for hand outs and start looking for opprotunities to change your life for the better.
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The money used in this study could have been used to help kids rather than keep the hate, distrust, and disrespect alive and well
 @Handsup70 Wow, ignore the point of the article (disparities in enforcement between races), redefining race to a more comfortable term AND claiming everyone is a minority.  I didnt know that being 70% of the country = a minority.
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First the minority-hate mongers dont bother reading the article. Â THEN you guys go on tangents making up definitions and ignoring the point of the article.
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Next thing you know you guys are going to start saying the sky is green and the moon is made of cheese
 @salishan Apparently you do not comprehend what I said.. I'm not trying to turn this into a "race war" Did you even bother reading what it was that I said?
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Let us focus on your only statement from said article.
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"PETTY CRIMES"
White kids not arrested by police for said crime
But Black kids (or whatever other race you choose) gets arrested for same offense that white kids do not get arrested for.
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Now lets look at it from a "logical" point of view...... Where do most of these petty crimes happen? What is the ethnic percentages of people living in said areas of these crimes?
What are the crimes (they don't even state what they are). So with that being said, how can you make a "logical conclusion" ? Look at the breakdown of areas where these crimes are committed and look at the percentages of ethnic groups in said areas.
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This takes me back to why is it that 95% of ALL serial killers white? Is it due to racial profiling? Is it because it's a "white crime" ?? (my statement here is MEANT to be sarcastic and stupid).
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I don't see your point on the color of the sky or what the moon is made of.. It's obvious what they are (the moon and sky). But when you make a blanket statement that cops arrest Black kids over White kids all you create is HATE, DISTRUST, DISRESPECT and continue fueling the fire of generations past! GET OVER THE HATE ALREADY! Start living in todays society and quit living in the past that you really didn't live through or have to deal with.
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Once we can all start looking at facts rather than ethnic groups, then we can all be equal and stop prejudice and bias opinions of each other. And truley live in a "COLOR BLIND" society.
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I stand beside my initial statement.. The money spent on this STUPID survey could have been better spent on educating the masses and going to troubled areas to help stop ALL kids black, white, green, red, or whatever from falling victim to the judicial system to begin with!
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The 'we hate blax and browns' crowd apparently doesnt read the story before commenting.
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Lets use simple english:
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How is that not racist? Â Are you guys even reading the story before you comment or did you just see the title and thought "Those minorities are natural criminals, thats why they are in court more often!"?
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"Between 2007 and 2011, African-American youth were nearly 250 percent more likely to be referred to juvenile court for prosecution than their white counterparts. Their ratio is followed by Native American youth, which are 80 percent more likely more likely to be deferred. Overall, minority youth are 22 percent more likely to be deferred."
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This means that AFTER BEING SUSPECTED OF OFFENDING, blacks and natives are more likely to be sent to court than whites. Â In plain english: Black/Native suspects are more likely to be sent to court than white suspects. Â This isnt rocket science people, its obvious institutional racism in its more pure form.
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"In arrests, minority youth were nearly 85 percent more likely to be arrested than white youth statewide, the study found"
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This means if you are NOT WHITE, you are more likely to be arrested than if you are white by WA law enforcement, whether or not you commit a crime. Either you guys are purposefully not getting it, or (I suspect) 90% of the people defending this disparity DID NOT READ THE ARTICLE...which shows the old addage ignorance begets ignorance.
Could it be that minorities commit more crimes, per capita?
 @Donacita No, because the story says that MINORITIES ARE ARRESTED MORE OFTEN.  That is different than offends more often.
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White kids in Mercer Island are rarely arrested. Including the yakkes who sprayed racist graffiti over their own school and claimed nazis were involved.
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Pathetic.
Someone needs to tell Centro de la Raza that the diversity of discussion on the subject within minority communities is vast and active and reflects concerns about parenting, lack of accountability etc.Â
The sad part of all this is that minorities have a lot more programs and opportunities to make something out fo their life simply because they are minorities.
I have to admit that when I am walking down the street in downtown I avoid all Black kids. I think they are dangerous. Call me a bigot if you want, but I do not want to be assaulted or killed because I am white. Better to be called a bigot than be dead or hospitalized.
 @Telman@ Funny because of hate crime statistics, you are more likely to assault them. Especially if you are law enforcement.  Ive lived almost 35 years and have only seen 1 case of black kids assaulting a white guy.  Yet I have been threatened myself by whites for walking down the street with my gf (interracial relationship), assaulted by racists at parties, had slurs thrown at me and my gf and had my property vandalized. All here in good old WA.
Its in there genetic makeup and part culture which is difficult to change, it takes one to spread the gang mentality and a lot will follow. I don't know how to change this except more law enforcement for a long period of time to help the younger kids come up without the bad influence.
Facts are facts and it has nothing to do with being racist. Fact is if you live in an area where it is predominantly minorities there is a lot more crime. You can go to any city in ay state and you will find that. Those are the facts PERIOD!! And there is no excuse for this. It is part of their culture.
 @tkyed It seems the more in the pack, the bolder they are.
We need to have a real discussion about this without fear of being labeled a "racist" or "bigot".
 @thebigteacher No, just dont support bigotry and racism.  Common sense.
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People who beat their wives probably want to have a discussion about being labeled a 'wife beater'. The first thing they would say is "I dont like being called something *that I fit the description of*, so lets not use that term anymore".
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Bad people dont want to be told they are bad. Â Bigots hate being told they are bigots, thus rather than change their bigoted viewpoints, they would rather socially censor the term...thus they can get away with being bigots freely again like the "good old days".
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That's not  going to happen, "Anything"  you say,  can  &  will  be  held  against  you...yes?
@Olivia @thebigteacher And just where does that get us? Can't we all just get along?
@thebigteacher Absolutely.   in the office; in the schools, on pages like this one we get labeled for any attempt at a frank discussion. and as time goes on it seems to be getting worse, not easier to have an educated dialogue. furthermore, we are such a melting pot with an increasing number of interracial marriages the lines are getting blurred. i work for a very large company and am continually surpised when co-workers identify with a particular race or ethinticity. Never would i have guessed their "affiliation".  more to the point i never "guessed" because i really did not care. as far as i was concerned they were Dick or Jane or Sally who contributed to the workplace.
 @jennieb Never would you have guessed their "Affiliation" ? affiliation  to what? being Black, White, Hispanic? if there were  2 Sallys all working in the same dept.  1 was Black , 1 was  White, and someone ask you where Sally worked, would you say, which Sally? there are 2 Sally's, or would you be offended if that person knew about the 2 Sally's and said, the black Sally? would that  be  considered racist? unless you wear a blind fold, there is a difference in color, just a there is a difference in predjuice, if a fat kid  and a thin kid were together and the fat kid stole something and someone saw it and was ask which one did the stealing? what do you think they would say?
 @jennieb No offence taken, just making a comment,  a lot of my relatives are African American / White, they look  Asian, they are beautiful,  and they call themselves "Halfricans" as a joke...the other half of  my relatives are  Mexican / Native American, also very beautiful people,  me? I'm just plain white.
@Olivia @jennieb  . . .of course there is a difference in color. but one cannot always guess a "race" or "affiliation" by skin tone. my daugher is far darker in the summer than the darkest African American in my department.  for instance  I had absolutely no idea that Soledad O"brien considered herself "black" until recently even though she had a mini series on being black in America.   Never thought too much about it, but i suppose i considered her  "black Irish" (who are decendents of invading Spaniards with more olive skin and dark hair.)    2 Sally's? i may not have a clue. My apologies if you are offended.
right on the wa mama
I don't believe cops go around looking for black youths and than arrest them, It's like Bretta said, don't do th crime and don't do the time.
The problem is that majority of these juveniles look upto the gang banging culture. Fact is that they listen to rap which glorifies being a bad ass.Â
I don't care if someone is black, white, green or blue. What is comes down to is parenting and the values and morals that parents not only display but pass on to their kids.
 @The WA Mama Did you read the story?  Because it says that minority kids are more likely to get arrested AFTER BEING A SUSPECT than black kids.
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Some of you guys defending this disparity obviously didnt read past the title. Â I would blame Komo for not giving it a better title, but people who comment without reading are more at fault.
And the racist trolls arrive to cheer on bigotry against minorities as per usual!
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Do you guys even read the article before your troll comments? It says MINORITIES ARE ARRESTED MORE OFTEN THAN WHITES. Â That does not mean 'offend more often' (as another study revealed was case), that means if a white juvenile and a black juvenile are stopped by officers in WA doing the same thing, the officer is several times more likely to arrest the black one.
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Ive literally seen this first hand in Seattle, where black kids get tackled and arrested for 'obstruction' simply for asking the officer why he was being stopped; while a white high school kid literally yells his head off at an officer and is allowed to walk free.
 @salishan your  wrong. it means if you do a crime and get caught you will be arrested, your backward thinking, is redictulas. Like the mama stated, it start with parenting, I think the black culture needs to change, starting with parenting. teach your children the difference betwen right and wrong. teach them if they asault, rob , or worse they will be caught and prosucuted. Teach them were all equal, and the white race isn't the man, but only like them gods children. Teach them, drugs and alcohol, and bad, teach them to get a head, a education will get them there. teach them violence isn't the answer. teach them we are all equal.
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"In arrests, minority youth were nearly 85 percent more likely to be arrested than white youth statewide, the study found. "
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That means if a white kid and minority kid are suspected to have commited a crime, the minority kid is 85% more likely to be arrested across the board. Â Thats IS NOT EQUAL.
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Let the race baiting, race mongering begin! Didn't we already try "alternative" methods when we gave a slap on the wrist to a "kid" for murdering Tuba Man? What happened there?
 @GeorgeG. So any evidence showing a racial disparity or discrimination should be dismissed as 'race baiting'?  Even a study using data willingly given by law enforcement themselves?
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So What. Non story.
Hey, if you are doing the crime why does it matter what race you are...knock it off and you won't be going to jail.Â
 @Citizen#3457899654 Did you read the story?  Because the data says if you are doing the crime and are white you are far far less likely to be arrested.  Thats kind of the point.Â
Why does society make everything a race issue when that very same society claims to strive to be racially blind?
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Wow, the 'we hate minority' crowd is out in full effect in this thread.
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And thats not racist? Â Did you even read the story?
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 @salishan  @Richard Burton your thinking is the problem and why nothing gets done becouse its all whites fault  they looking at the leaders you have who have made millions as race pips
 @salishan  @Richard Burton salishan you are the racist, listen to your self, stop the self pitty, and teach betterment of oneself. the white race isn't the bad guy here. I supose you think prison are full of innocnt black people put in there because they are black.
Is this really a surprise to anyone?
@Skeetball well yes, doesnt' the government spend all sorts of $$ on welfare, afterschool programs, drug awareness, community outreach, etc to avoid this? Perhaps if we paid for more abortions, then there would be less of them to cause the issue? , so they don't have to bring up a young kid that will have to go to prison, or get shot just when they get their life turned around?Â
 @Dave Lancaster Most welfare goes to whites, not minorities. Â
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Did you even read the story? Â It says that no matter what the offense is, minorities are more likely to be arrested than whites.
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Black kid breaks x-law = Arrest
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Do you not see the difference?
 @salishan  @Dave Lancaster plain english with no facts
 @Dave Lancaster  @Skeetball People who don't take advantage of a FREE education will likely not take advantage of free abortions. It's about responsibility.
I haven't had time to read all the comments but IMO the problem begins at home and is magnified at school. When young people haven't learned right from wrong and don't see themselves as successful human beings then a life of crime follows. How do young people learn right from wrong? It's often that they have the kind of relationship with their parents or caregivers that they have included the adults' values and ask themselves, "Is this something my dad, mom, or caregiver would want me to do?"
 @jcman Sorry, but it sounds like you are saying minority parents are bad parents, based off of the article and your post.Â
 @31F  @jcman it would be wrong to say black parents were bad parents, but i would like hear interviews from blacks in jail on ther upbringing to hear how they were raised.
@31F @jcman , what I infer from 31's post, is that the lack of a family structure is the problem. It's not that they're bad parents, it that there are no real parents, for many, probably for most, they don't have dads, and if they do, the dad probably has no job, and hasn't worked in a while. and its highly likely the mom doesnt work either. So they don't have a "normal" upbringing.  but I may be reading a lot into his comments