Ore. hit-and-run suspect arrested at local berry farm

 @Glassman Actually I would gladly read it. I have an open mind about these subjects, if you can prove me wrong I will gladly concede. Keep in mind the fact that illegal immigration benefits the economy. Really democrats should be against illegal immigration, because the only people that don't benefit from it are the poor lower class. Show me an article that states the violent crime rate among illegals is higher than those of red blooded Americans. Show me an article that states that illegal immigration has collapsed an industry. Do you believe they are encroaching on our way of life? What exactly is our way of life? People groups have been segregating themselves into their own communities in America for hundreds of years. Ever been to Salt Lake City? Or the Bronx? Or Miami? Or Chicago? Do you realize that Seattle is one of the "Sanctuary" cities for illegal immigrants, we don't actively pursue them because our leaders see their benefit outweighing the cost. So far everyone on this has been attacking me without bringing forth any facts or evidence. So they say I'm stupid, my writing style begs to differ! By the way I'm a 6'2" 190lb blonde American whose family immigrated from Holland and Finland a long long time ago. I have lived in South America, I have friends there who live in Tin shacks on the side of a mountain. My perspective runs deep.

@MPS  There is no hate in the Truth moron. You as you have stated before are an anchor baby no doubt from illegal aliens. You do not have to be an intellectual to see what is happening with illegal immigration, there are millions and millions and millions who feel the same way, we are not wrong, you are wrong. I have nothing against Legal Immigration only Illegal Immigration but we all know you hispanics and liberals spin it another way. My grandparents immigrated to this country from Italy in the early 50's they waited in line for 10 years to become LEGAL citizens of this country, it was the greatest day of their lives, they did it LEGALLY. So why should some pissant illegal aliens get to go to the front of the line without waiting and going through the process like my grandparents did. They learned English and adapted to the American culture, the Hispanics do not want to learn English or adapt to the American society, they want to bring their culture here and have us adapt to them, this is BS.

 

I despise you and you me, I don't care, I know the truth. When you talk of cliffs I wish you would jump off one.

 @SSPN  @Harundar SSPN, you are a complete idiot.  Immigrants are not the problem.  Our immigration policy is the problem.  Good people are good people, bad, bad, and they are citizens and immigrants alike.  You, for example, are one of the bad ones and you are talking out of your ass as far as what is ruining this country.  Don't start with immigrants, start with the ruling class all the way back to Reagan's "Trickle Down Theory."  That's where it all began, that's when the middle class came under attack, and that's when wealth began concentrating even more towards the one percent.  They've got you, and people like you, exactly where they want you.  Blaming immigrants and brown people for your problems, instead of them.

 

Stop posturing as an intellectual.  You are nothing of the sort.  Rather, you're just another marching moron and you'll be at the cliff sooner than later if you haven't fallen off of it already.  The problem is, people like you usually don't even notice because you are so focused on hating and blaming others you don't see the ground coming.  

 @jpimus Just stop.  Your idiocy and racism is mind boggling.  

@Harundar You are a complete idiot, and I have a feeling you are Hispanic, and are therefore a sympathizer or illegal yourself. How many of these poor illegals do you have living with you? are you paying their medical bills? will you pay for the medical bills of the one's in the story above? will you pay the hospital bills for the birth of their anchor babies? what about the subsidized housing now that they have children, will you pay their rent? what about their food?

And you are not independent, you are either like I said above or a far left loony Liberal, I don't care and I far as I am concerned you and your ilk are a cancer on society, no different than the scum meth heads you describe above.

Go spend some time down in Phoenix, Tucson, or San Diego or hell any Texas border town or city and you will see what is coming to the Pacific Northwest it is a travesty, the illegals have ruined these cities and their economies. That is the truth, you don't want to believe it but too bad, it is the truth.

I really wish you would move to Mexico or Honduras or El Salvador and then tell us about the great time you are having there, the best will just be knowing you have left this country, don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out.

 @Harundar Spoken like an illegal, or a sympathizer. I can quote from the other side, but you wouldn't read it.

 @Granny_MAC  I respect  your opinion, I have read many of your comments in the past and typically agree. Another major problem with picking is that it's seasonal. Same with construction work. While both can pay decent for unskilled labor ($15/hr for picking), they don't pay well enough to cover the down times.

 @jpimus LoL actually I live in Everett, WA where the Meth Heads roam the streets like a scene out of "The Walking Dead" and the incessant blare of police sirens lull us to sleep every night. You accuse me of being uneducated then you blurt out a bigoted stereotype that Mexican women come over here to pop out 12 kids. Trust me they produce far fewer than that and would pop out just as many if they were in Mexico. A lot of the illegals send their money back home, definitely not looking for a free meal. California is not bankrupt from illegal immigration and bankrupt or not it still is the eighth largest economy in the world. You appear more and more to be the person whose head is lodged in a dark place. Immigration laws aren't something I cling, but I'm all for being tough on true criminals. Most of which are born in the USA, we are excellent at breeding psychopaths here!

 

PS If you break into my house tonight, I would likely introduce you too my shotgun.

 @Harundar Your lack of knowledge of history is astounding and you live in Whiteyville, Oregon. Not exactly the frontlines of anything,  America has benefited from LEGAL immigration. Not a Third World invasion by an army of uneducated illegal aliens and not from Ms. Martinez hoping three feet over the border and popping out twelve kids on my dime. They also refuse to assimilate into U.S. culture and just want to turn my country into Central America. They don't care about our history,culture, constitution etc... They see the U.S. as one big free meal due to political correctness and the race card. Yes, I am primarily referring to Hispanic illegal aliens as they make  up the majority of illegal immigrants in the U.S. California has been overrun with illegals and they also happen to be the only state that is bankrupt. Coincidence??? Should we reward all of them for disregarding our laws?? Can I break into to your house tonight and be rewarded for it by having full access to your savings??? It is only fair and it will be easier to tabs on me.

 @jpimus Some growers seem to think Americans will live on the farm there will all the amenities.  They won't and have to travel home which costs gas money.  Growers get subsidized and still refuse to pay a decent wage by demanding tooo much to pick with too little pay.  The pay is good for some people but Americans actually lose money working for the growers because of gas payments. 

 @jpimus Judging from you troll nature I seriously doubt your claimed level of education. Here is some reading for you to educate yourself further:

 

http://www.ncsl.org/issues-research/immig/immigrants-in-the-workforce.aspx

 

While saying "jobs Americans won't do" might imply "no Americans do those jobs" that is not what I meant, it would be an incorrect statement. But when you consider the void that would be created in those industries if the immigrant workers (legal and not) were to go away there is no way you would find the people to fill that hole.

 

You yourself proved it, too, you obviously didn't make a career out of washing dishes and cutting lawns and I'm sorry, but there just aren't enough hungry college students to fill all those jobs.

 

As for your gangbanger's, they obviously aren't out picking fruit or doing any sort of legitimate job so it doesn't even apply. I don't ever see any gang activity around me, but I would like to point out that gang violence has fallen off the charts the past ten years. So it stands to reason that even as gang bangers they are more docile and better behaved than Americans were when we controlled the gang scene in the '90's.On top of that the drug wars are an American made problem, we have a huge demand for narcotics, the largest in the world. If you want the gangbangers to go away then maybe you should start by fixing America's problem with addiction.

 

I'm an independent voter, when it comes to immigration the Republicans have it all wrong. America was founded by immigrants and our country has continually benefited from immigration. The illegals need a path to legitimization.

@Harundar Have you been living under a rock? most all human smuggling is done by and through Mexico, you're good buddies in Mexico are smuggling their own people across the border (hispanics) and are being held up in so called safe houses by coyotes, the humans are treated like cattle, they are not fed, given water, or anyway to contact family in Mexico, they are chained and shackled. They are held captive in these houses until all debts are paid up for the smuggling, if the debts are not paid up the illegals are killed and usually end up in pits dead with all the others who could not pay the fee to the coyotes in full.

 

There are some 200 of these so called safe houses at any given time in the Phoenix and Tuscon area alone according to the state of Arizona and the Dept of Public Safety. Real nice Harunder, real nice.

 

I do not agree with amnesty for the illegals, the illegal wants a free ride, they are not willing to wait like the millions before them, the illegal is not special and should receive no special treatment. It is not fair to give the illegal a free ride into this country, the illegal is lazy, they want everything handed to them on a silver platter, not gonna happen.

 

 

 @SSPN  @Harundar Human trafficking is indeed no joking matter. Most of that comes from Asia. My opinion is best summed up here:

 

"The Manhattan Institute reported that 78% of likely Republican voters favor a proposal combining increased border security, tougher penalties for employers who hire illegal workers, and allowing illegal aliens to register for a temporary worker program that includes a path to citizenship. Respondents favored the program over a deportation and enforcement-only plan 58% to 33%.[192] The Quinnipiac poll reports that 65% of adults support a guest worker program for illegal immigrants"

 

We need to clear the red tape and high costs for immigration. If you streamline legitimate immigration the heinous crimes associated with human trafficking will be greatly reduced.

@Harundar Like I said my grandparents waited in line, immigrated here by the book and went through the US government process, unlike the vermin who cross our border and are too lazy to wait in line.

 

I have done my research and the majority of all illegals (hispanics) have only a 4th grade education when they arrive in this country illegally, many have no formal education at all.

 

And the free services come the second an illegal alien drops an anchor baby, the parents even though they are illegal (and the child is not) get all the free government goodies a legal American born citizen gets, it's a scam and that is why illegals breed like rabbits. They are lazy.

 

Not only do they smuggle drugs but they also smuggle humans, real LOL right?. They also steal social security numbers from US citizens, pay very little in income taxes under stolen social security numbers. The majority of them carry no auto insurance, we have no idea who they really are, are they gang members? thieves? murderers? rapists? child molesters? we don't know. We have enough American bred criminals in this country, we do not need 15 million illegals who have no ID (except for what is stolen) or backgrounds that we cannot substantiate at all, it is ludicrous just like your many posts.

 @SSPN  @MPS Actually you said your family immigrated from Italy, if it weren't for the European immigrants you'd be sipping wine in Tuscany or something.

 

BTW, you're wrong again, most illegals are educated to about the 10th grade level. Do your research. I don't know what free services you think illegals get, but they aren't that great. And the Anchor Baby theory is garbage, we deport parents and keep their minor American citizen children here. I don't know where the freeloader idea comes from either, they come here to WORK! Even if they are smuggling drugs they are still working, LoL!