Prosecutors: Renton gigolo-rapist killed woman in Vietnam
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SEATTLE -- On Friday morning, federal prosecutors in Seattle may win a small measure of justice for a woman killed a world away.
In early March 2011, Bich Ngoc Thi Nguyen was found slain in a Vietnam apartment rented by convicted rapist and former Renton resident Timothy Doran.
According to media reports, Nguyen, 24, was found stuffed inside the closet of an apartment Doran shared with his two young sons. Her mouth was taped shut, her face severely beaten and she had been strangled.
By the time she was found, Doran, 47, was back in the United States and hiding from authorities who wanted him for a far less egregious crime: Failing to register as a sex offender. For that crime -- not the killing, perhaps never for the killing -- he faces up to a decade in prison.
Largely because the U.S. and Vietnam have no extradition treaty, it appears Doran will not face judgment in Nguyen's slaying. Prosecutors suggest he will not be returned to Vietnam after serving whatever sentence is imposed during a hearing Friday.
But assistant U.S. attorneys will present a truncated trial in an attempt to sway U.S. District Judge Robert Lasnik toward imposing an exceptionally long prison term against Doran - 10 years in federal prison.
To do so, prosecutors have arranged to have a Vietnamese detective flown in to testify against Doran during the hearing. They also expect to call a man who claims Doran admitted to killing Nguyen during a frantic phone call around the time of the killing.
Prosecutors note the alleged killing is the latest in a decades-long series of allegations against Doran, who was previously convicted of raping a woman before leaving her tied up in an apartment filling with natural gas.
"Over the last 20 years, Doran has committed a succession of ever-more appalling violent crimes against women, ranging from assault to rape and now to murder," Assistant U.S. Attorneys Brian Werner and Andrew Friedman told the court.
"Doran's history," the prosecutors continued, "shows that he is a dangerous predator, who likely will hurt again."
A self-described gigolo who claimed to investigators to have had sex with "hundreds of women," Doran has denied killing Nguyen while contending he fled Vietnam to protect himself and his children from an unspecified threat.
Doran's first recorded attack on an intimate partner came in 1990, when he twisted his then-wife's ankle until it snapped during a beating that also saw Doran drag a kitchen knife across the woman's throat. For his crime he was sentenced to 10 months in jail; a six-inch metal plate and several screws were needed to repair the woman's ankle.
Fresh from jail and living in Buckley in April 1992, Doran attacked another woman after she attempted to break up with him.
Enraged, Doran blew out the pilot lights in the woman's stove and raped her as her home filled with gas. With her two young sons in an adjacent room, Doran described in detail how both boys would die as he attempted to break the woman's legs.
Doran then stuffed several sexual aids into the woman and tied her up before fleeing the home. She untied herself and was able to summon help. Doran was ultimately convicted of second-degree rape and served six years in prison before he was released in 1998.
The woman later provided the court with a letter describing Doran as a changed man. That assertion came as Doran and his then-wife were divorcing in 2009, prior to Doran's flight to Vietnam.
Facing divorce, Doran underwent a lie detector test during which he denied ever harming anyone during sex. According to test results provided to the court by his defense attorney, Doran claimed to have worked as a gigolo for two years after being approached by a West Seattle woman; he also claimed to have had sex with "a couple hundred" women.
Writing the court, the prosecutors noted Doran's ex-wife claimed he beat her and threatened to stab her on several occasions. Nonetheless, Doran was awarded partial custody of their two children.
Doran left the United States in mid-2010 without updating his sex offender registration. Prosecutors claim he attempted to hide his departure from U.S. authorities.
Once in Vietnam, Doran met Nguyen. Press reports indicate Doran was working as an English teacher at the time, and there are conflicting statements as to what kind of relationship existed between the pair.
Doran hurriedly left Vietnam in March 2011. Six days later, Nguyen's partially decomposed body was found in Doran's apartment.
Returning to the United States, Doran worked in Montana and North Dakota before surrendering to authorities in December 2011.
Asking that Nguyen's slaying be considered in sentencing Doran for failing to register as a sex offender, the prosecutors acknowledge that Doran is unlikely to ever be tried in Vietnam for the killing. They went on to claim both Doran's history of violence against women and the evidence against him show him to be her killer.
"Doran's murder of Nguyen confirms what Doran's earlier convictions for assault and rape suggested," Werner and Friedman told the court. "Doran is a violent predator who poses an extreme danger to any woman with whom he becomes involved."
Doran admitted to killing Nguyen in conversations with two friends, both of whom are expected to testify at Friday's hearing, the prosecutors said in court documents. A Vietnam police officer who investigated the crime scene is also expected to appear before the court.
Largely ignored in the United States, Nguyen's apparent murder and Doran's flight from the country made news in Vietnam. Nguyen's family and supporters have asked that Doran be extradited, though no framework currently exists to send a U.S. citizen to face a Vietnamese court.
"The crime was committed in Vietnam," Nguyen's sister said in a letter published on several English-language news sites in Vietnam. "It is only fair and right that Doran faces the Vietnamese judicial system.
"Please understand that what we seek is not vengeance, but basic justice that everyone deserves, regardless of who they are or where they are in the world."
Asking that his client be sentenced to no more than two years in prison, defense attorney Nicholas Marchi argued it would be improper for a court to consider Nguyen's slaying when sentencing Doran. To do so would deny Doran's due process rights, Marchi said. Beyond that, Marchi noted Doran was last convicted of a violent crime in 1992.
"Mr. Doran has paid for his prior crimes," Marchi told the court. "Since his release he has had no other arrests or convictions. He has led a law-abiding life taking care of his children."
Prosecutors have asked for the maximum term available under federal law, an unusual step. Defendants usually face a punishment within a range of sentences determined by a federal board; the statutory maximum term is rarely reached.
But, Werner and Friedman argued in court documents, the rape and murder make Doran an exceptional defendant deserving the max.
"Doran has progressed from violent assault to vicious rape to gruesome murder," the prosecutors argued. "Doran appears not to have learned from any of the crimes, or taken any steps to reform. Rather, he has simply become ever-more violent."
Doran is scheduled to be sentenced Friday morning in U.S. District Court at Seattle. He remains in custody.
In early March 2011, Bich Ngoc Thi Nguyen was found slain in a Vietnam apartment rented by convicted rapist and former Renton resident Timothy Doran.
According to media reports, Nguyen, 24, was found stuffed inside the closet of an apartment Doran shared with his two young sons. Her mouth was taped shut, her face severely beaten and she had been strangled.
By the time she was found, Doran, 47, was back in the United States and hiding from authorities who wanted him for a far less egregious crime: Failing to register as a sex offender. For that crime -- not the killing, perhaps never for the killing -- he faces up to a decade in prison.
Largely because the U.S. and Vietnam have no extradition treaty, it appears Doran will not face judgment in Nguyen's slaying. Prosecutors suggest he will not be returned to Vietnam after serving whatever sentence is imposed during a hearing Friday.
But assistant U.S. attorneys will present a truncated trial in an attempt to sway U.S. District Judge Robert Lasnik toward imposing an exceptionally long prison term against Doran - 10 years in federal prison.
To do so, prosecutors have arranged to have a Vietnamese detective flown in to testify against Doran during the hearing. They also expect to call a man who claims Doran admitted to killing Nguyen during a frantic phone call around the time of the killing.
Prosecutors note the alleged killing is the latest in a decades-long series of allegations against Doran, who was previously convicted of raping a woman before leaving her tied up in an apartment filling with natural gas.
"Over the last 20 years, Doran has committed a succession of ever-more appalling violent crimes against women, ranging from assault to rape and now to murder," Assistant U.S. Attorneys Brian Werner and Andrew Friedman told the court.
"Doran's history," the prosecutors continued, "shows that he is a dangerous predator, who likely will hurt again."
A self-described gigolo who claimed to investigators to have had sex with "hundreds of women," Doran has denied killing Nguyen while contending he fled Vietnam to protect himself and his children from an unspecified threat.
Doran's first recorded attack on an intimate partner came in 1990, when he twisted his then-wife's ankle until it snapped during a beating that also saw Doran drag a kitchen knife across the woman's throat. For his crime he was sentenced to 10 months in jail; a six-inch metal plate and several screws were needed to repair the woman's ankle.
Fresh from jail and living in Buckley in April 1992, Doran attacked another woman after she attempted to break up with him.
Enraged, Doran blew out the pilot lights in the woman's stove and raped her as her home filled with gas. With her two young sons in an adjacent room, Doran described in detail how both boys would die as he attempted to break the woman's legs.
Doran then stuffed several sexual aids into the woman and tied her up before fleeing the home. She untied herself and was able to summon help. Doran was ultimately convicted of second-degree rape and served six years in prison before he was released in 1998.
The woman later provided the court with a letter describing Doran as a changed man. That assertion came as Doran and his then-wife were divorcing in 2009, prior to Doran's flight to Vietnam.
Facing divorce, Doran underwent a lie detector test during which he denied ever harming anyone during sex. According to test results provided to the court by his defense attorney, Doran claimed to have worked as a gigolo for two years after being approached by a West Seattle woman; he also claimed to have had sex with "a couple hundred" women.
Writing the court, the prosecutors noted Doran's ex-wife claimed he beat her and threatened to stab her on several occasions. Nonetheless, Doran was awarded partial custody of their two children.
Doran left the United States in mid-2010 without updating his sex offender registration. Prosecutors claim he attempted to hide his departure from U.S. authorities.
Once in Vietnam, Doran met Nguyen. Press reports indicate Doran was working as an English teacher at the time, and there are conflicting statements as to what kind of relationship existed between the pair.
Doran hurriedly left Vietnam in March 2011. Six days later, Nguyen's partially decomposed body was found in Doran's apartment.
Returning to the United States, Doran worked in Montana and North Dakota before surrendering to authorities in December 2011.
Asking that Nguyen's slaying be considered in sentencing Doran for failing to register as a sex offender, the prosecutors acknowledge that Doran is unlikely to ever be tried in Vietnam for the killing. They went on to claim both Doran's history of violence against women and the evidence against him show him to be her killer.
"Doran's murder of Nguyen confirms what Doran's earlier convictions for assault and rape suggested," Werner and Friedman told the court. "Doran is a violent predator who poses an extreme danger to any woman with whom he becomes involved."
Doran admitted to killing Nguyen in conversations with two friends, both of whom are expected to testify at Friday's hearing, the prosecutors said in court documents. A Vietnam police officer who investigated the crime scene is also expected to appear before the court.
Largely ignored in the United States, Nguyen's apparent murder and Doran's flight from the country made news in Vietnam. Nguyen's family and supporters have asked that Doran be extradited, though no framework currently exists to send a U.S. citizen to face a Vietnamese court.
"The crime was committed in Vietnam," Nguyen's sister said in a letter published on several English-language news sites in Vietnam. "It is only fair and right that Doran faces the Vietnamese judicial system.
"Please understand that what we seek is not vengeance, but basic justice that everyone deserves, regardless of who they are or where they are in the world."
Asking that his client be sentenced to no more than two years in prison, defense attorney Nicholas Marchi argued it would be improper for a court to consider Nguyen's slaying when sentencing Doran. To do so would deny Doran's due process rights, Marchi said. Beyond that, Marchi noted Doran was last convicted of a violent crime in 1992.
"Mr. Doran has paid for his prior crimes," Marchi told the court. "Since his release he has had no other arrests or convictions. He has led a law-abiding life taking care of his children."
Prosecutors have asked for the maximum term available under federal law, an unusual step. Defendants usually face a punishment within a range of sentences determined by a federal board; the statutory maximum term is rarely reached.
But, Werner and Friedman argued in court documents, the rape and murder make Doran an exceptional defendant deserving the max.
"Doran has progressed from violent assault to vicious rape to gruesome murder," the prosecutors argued. "Doran appears not to have learned from any of the crimes, or taken any steps to reform. Rather, he has simply become ever-more violent."
Doran is scheduled to be sentenced Friday morning in U.S. District Court at Seattle. He remains in custody.
I bet he can swallow a "Louisville Slugger" and not even take a breath !
He will get out and get someone else. The state will wring its hand what could we do. You COULD have him involuntarily comitted - he is clearly insane.Â
He sure looks "GAY"! He is gonna look even better to the brothers in prison!Â
Why is he still breathing!!!! He will strike again, and the state will say there was nothing they could do.
"Doran's first recorded attack on an intimate partner came in 1990, when he twisted his then-wife's ankle until it snapped during a beating that also saw Doran drag a kitchen knife across the woman's throat. For his crime he was sentenced to 10 months in jail"
Good to know we have such harsh punishments for these violent criminals.
Makes you wonder how many more victims he has...
I think the bigger issue is why haven;t we normalized relations with Viet NAm and North Korea. Boggles the mind that after 40 years we still don't have mature enough leaders to work out the minor kinks and bigotry that have not allowed our relations to normalize. This was another promise our manchurian president failed to keep.
OMG. Â This man sounds like a true Serial Killer, and Sadist. It also appears that his crimes had been progressing into more violence each time, which is also a sign of a seriously deranged serial killer. Â This man is a DANGER TO SOCIETY. Â Two years is NOTHING, hold him longer and he needs assessment for a mental derangement. Â The STATE has the obligation to protect the public OR when he is released and he kills another woman (which he will) then the State will be paying for it by a lawsuit. Â Do the right thing, in the first place, and save someones life BEFORE it happens.Â
Due to our extremely poor judicial system this animal will have another opportunity to hurt yet another woman. Please if you will not send him to Vietnam just put a bullet in his head and get it over with. The defense lawyer should be flogged just for representing this evil trash.
Just let him serve his time here first and then ship him back to Viet Nam and let them deal with him. It will be a death penalty case either done by the government or while he's in prison.
Please send him back to Viet Nam if you want real justice..
So someone can commit murder here and move to vietman and live free? maybe if they ask we should give him a vacation in vietnam.
You know, as much as I hate to say this, I'm usually against sending an american to another country for justice, let's ship this creature to Vietnam, and let their justice system do it's job. They don't pander to criminals, so let them do as they please, including execution. (Hopefully painful execution)
Let Vietnam handle his ass,what a POS !
Send him to Vietnam and save our taxpayer money!
What jacka55 judge allowed him partial custody of his kids?
Here's hoping Viet- gang seeking revenge on this sad excuse of life.
"Over the last 20 years, Doran has committed a succession of ever-more appalling violent crimes against women, ranging from assault to rape and now to murder," Assistant U.S. Attorneys Brian Werner and Andrew Friedman told the court.
Later in the story we hear "Doran was last convicted of a violent crime in 1992."
So which is it?Â
"Enraged, Doran blew out the pilot lights in the woman's stove and raped her as her home filled with gas. With her two young sons in an adjacent room, Doran described in detail how both boys would die as he attempted to break the woman's legs." - Hey, soiunds like a pretty cool guy!... Pffffttt... off with his head!
Why does this guy seem to have the Tim Eyman SMIRK?
@JLS1950 That's just the way a "gigilo-rapist" smiles... isn't that just lovely? This guy should be put to death and I hope I don't see his ugly mug again.
@Scoondog @JLS1950 Hmmm... that maybe explains why I've always found Eyman downright creepy, too.
Best thing we could do is send him back to Viet Nam. We don't have the balls to properly deal w/ guys like him.
@bagsofdirt Agreed. He should be tortured, then executed. What an absolute POS this punk is.
What a waste he is. Good riddance at least for awhile. Hope he hasn't influenced his sons too much.
Slit his through and leave him in a sewage ditch. It is honestly better than he deserves.
"Doran then stuffed several sexual aids into the woman". Not to detract from the story, but what are these?
@pensguy76Â REALLY???
@pensguy76Â Sex toys.
Sick POS doesn't deserve the oxygen in his lungs.
"Largely because the U.S. and Vietnam have no extradition treaty, it appears Doran will not face judgment in Nguyen's slaying."
 That's silly. You don't need a formal extradition treaty in order to deport a US national for trial in another country, you just need a judgment from an American court. I used to deal with cases like this, and we sent people away to China, Israel, and various other nations with whom we do not share formal extradition procedures.
This is just laziness on the part of the prosecutors.
Get him off the street and make sure he doesn't come out.
IF for some strange reason he does, make sure he's walking funny, THEN send him to Vietnam. He'll be begging to come home for American prison again.
After 10 years in the big house with Bubba, send him to Vietnam for justice.
@STKÂ ABSOLUTELY!!!
Alright, I'm not a big fan of Communism /Socialism. But I'm even less of a fan of murderer /rapists.Â
I think we bourgeoisie reactionary opponents of the inevitable Marxist-Leninist-Maoist world victory should, as a humanitarian gift and comradely goodwill gesture to the proletariat workers of Viet-Nam, send this wretched tool back to Hanoi and see if he prefers their justice system after having a sample of our justice system in the general population yard at Walla-Walla for a decade.
@svensson I wonder what the statute of limitations on murder is in Vietnam.  I'm sure we can get an extradition treaty signed with them by the time he gets out.  Just make sure they make it so crimes committed prior to the treaty being signed will count.
@svensson I was thinking something similar... In the name of World peace of course!
@svensson Saves us money too!
Wouldn't it be a hoot if he somehow got tossed in the baggage compartment of a plane headed to Vietnam?
Hang this POS.
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@quinline06Â Another racist comment from quinline06.....nothing more to see.
Sorry to post again, but I watched the video and it has LOTS more information about this killing than the print story. Â Mr. Doran does not like being spurned by women, not at all. Â He told the victim he wanted to marry her and bring her to the states, and she said no, so he "allegedly" killed her (she died of a broken neck) in self defense after she "allegedly" came back with gang members to get him - except she had no gang affiliations and absolutely no criminal history. Â She was an innocent woman who met the wrong guy. Â It's a real shame he cannot be prosecuted for that crime.
Mr. Doran has not paid for his crimes. Â Defense lawyers are barely-tolerated scum. Â I hope someone kills this guy in prison, he certainly deserves a horrible death, and soon.
I hope to God this Machi guy is a public defender, or else he needs his head examined. Â I would call his client an animal, but animals do not do such things to each other for sport. Â Doran is a sadistic, evil sociopath who ENJOYS inflicting pain and administering fear. Â He should never be free again. Â Hopefully a world of butt-hurt-karma is headed his way.
@Doxie I would prefer him to get shanked and then have the prison guards get caught up in another situation before they respond so he bleeds out.
Who do I have to bribe to get TWO minutes alone with this piece of filth? This sick bastard deserves MUCH more than ten years. He deserves nothing short of a lifetime of torture (with plenty of broken bones included) I hope his children didn't inherit his depravity.
O.k. there toughguy. Go GET him tiger!!!!
@Illuminati Touche' But THIS guy, deserves it. Unlike your "guy" beating friend.