State House panel eyes bill to tax marijuana trademarks

OLYMPIA, Wash. (AP) - A House committee held a public hearing Friday on a measure that would tax marijuana brand names and trademarks likely to be introduced in the state of Washington when the sale of recreational marijuana starts at the end of the year.
The bill heard by the House Finance Committee calls for a tax of $3.60 per $1,000 of assessed value of "all trademarks, trade names, brand names, patents and copyrights related to marijuana."
It does not say how those values would be determined and instead says the Department of Revenue can adopt rules for determining those amounts.
In November, voters approved Initiative 502, which allows adults over age 21 to have up to an ounce of pot. The state is due to start issuing licenses to marijuana growers, processors and retail stores, with the marijuana taxed 25 percent at each stage.
Democratic Rep. Jeff Morris of Mount Vernon, the sponsor of the trademark bill, told the committee that Washington, along with Colorado, which also passed a legalization measure in the fall, could benefit as the new industry moves to register brand names or trade names.
"I think that this reflects the uniqueness of the situation," Morris said. "What was the value of Marlboro as a trade name back when it was filed as a trade name or brand name?"
Under the bill, revenue from the tax would go into a special fund for agricultural research tied to health benefits.
During Friday's hearing, Morris specifically cited research being done at Washington State University on creating plasma from wheat and making gluten-free wheat.
"It's that type of research that I'm hoping this money would target," he said.
Chris Mulick, director of state relations for WSU, testified that the university has concerns about the bill.
He said WSU currently receives $21 million a year to support agriculture research, and there are concerns that if the measure passes, the tax on brand names would supplant state funding.
Mulick also noted concerns surrounding the state's efforts to persuade the federal government not to sue to block the law from taking effect. The U.S. Justice Department still has not announced its intentions.
"This is a resource that at this time remains highly uncertain," Mulick said.
Morris said the tax is not meant to replace state funding of research.
A fiscal note done by the state Office of Financial Management says the amount of potential revenue from the tax is unknown for several reasons, including the difficulty estimating a value for a an industry that doesn't yet exist, as well as uncertainty caused by the illegality of marijuana under federal law.
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The measure is House Bill 1976.
The bill heard by the House Finance Committee calls for a tax of $3.60 per $1,000 of assessed value of "all trademarks, trade names, brand names, patents and copyrights related to marijuana."
It does not say how those values would be determined and instead says the Department of Revenue can adopt rules for determining those amounts.
In November, voters approved Initiative 502, which allows adults over age 21 to have up to an ounce of pot. The state is due to start issuing licenses to marijuana growers, processors and retail stores, with the marijuana taxed 25 percent at each stage.
Democratic Rep. Jeff Morris of Mount Vernon, the sponsor of the trademark bill, told the committee that Washington, along with Colorado, which also passed a legalization measure in the fall, could benefit as the new industry moves to register brand names or trade names.
"I think that this reflects the uniqueness of the situation," Morris said. "What was the value of Marlboro as a trade name back when it was filed as a trade name or brand name?"
Under the bill, revenue from the tax would go into a special fund for agricultural research tied to health benefits.
During Friday's hearing, Morris specifically cited research being done at Washington State University on creating plasma from wheat and making gluten-free wheat.
"It's that type of research that I'm hoping this money would target," he said.
Chris Mulick, director of state relations for WSU, testified that the university has concerns about the bill.
He said WSU currently receives $21 million a year to support agriculture research, and there are concerns that if the measure passes, the tax on brand names would supplant state funding.
Mulick also noted concerns surrounding the state's efforts to persuade the federal government not to sue to block the law from taking effect. The U.S. Justice Department still has not announced its intentions.
"This is a resource that at this time remains highly uncertain," Mulick said.
Morris said the tax is not meant to replace state funding of research.
A fiscal note done by the state Office of Financial Management says the amount of potential revenue from the tax is unknown for several reasons, including the difficulty estimating a value for a an industry that doesn't yet exist, as well as uncertainty caused by the illegality of marijuana under federal law.
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The measure is House Bill 1976.
This is getting more entertaining every day.  The gangs will be getting more business than ever. Have they no clue how economics works? Oh, never mind. That was a dumb question. Of course they don't.
I hope the state is prepared to do genetic testing on every strain that is carried by each medical dispensary. There is no way to tell which strain a particular outlet is dispensing by looking at them. I could stick anything in a jar and call it by a specific name. I could just stick a sign on it specifying whether it's a Sativa or Indica and those are not brand names so they can't be taxed according to the state.
the state isn't wasting any time adding layer after layer of BS to accompany making a plant legal.
Two questions for our Dear Leaders
1. Why is Washington the ONLY state that does no share in tribal casino profits?
2. Why are off reservation tribal businesses removed from the tax rolls?
@Goodwin 'Cause it makes us all feel sooooo much better about ourselves---all warm and fuzzy all over...........
I will stick to my allowed 15 plants and know for sure what i'm smoking or eating.
I'm gonna stick with growing my own, I don't like the greedy messing with my weed.
One more: FREE MARC EMERY...... a Canadian prisoner being held against his will here in the U.S.!
I think they're trying to say to the feds "look we're taking this serious and corrupting this industry as much as any other industry we have our grubby little hands in" in an effort to avoid future conflict. Â
Our Federal Government loves nothing more then $ signs. If they see Washington squeezing every last tax dollar out of the movement the less likely they will be to challenge state law. They're going to want their share. While hopefully this will eventually lead to complete legalization, if this "lets tax EVERYTHING related to Marijuana" trend continues, it will keep the black market alive and well.Â
And that's exactly how they want it. Feds and local PD will still get to kick down doors and chase bad guys, the government will pat themselves on the backs for the increased tax revenue and up tight baby boomers everywhere will finally feel ok about smoking marijuana because since it's legal now the stigma is gone.
Does anyone know how Colorado is handling this?Difference: Â GROW YOUR OWN UP TO SIX PLANTS IN COLORADO
@GrungedÂ
RecreationalFrom the time of the Colorado Amendment 64 taking effect, recreational marijuana in Colorado is legal to possess for people age twenty-one or older provided the amount is under 1 ounce (28.5 grams). It is legal to consume within private residence, but not in public. Consumption is permitted in a manner similar to alcohol, with equivalent offenses prescribed for driving.[1] It is legal to sell Marijuana provided the store has obtained a permit to do so, similar to alcohol laws in many states. Private non-commercial cultivation of marijuana is legal up to six plants per person.[2]
@Funky-Munky @Grunged Next time you post a bud shot do it some justice. That thing was trimmed poorly and where's the trichs?.
@GrungedThe crazy part is I didn't know I posted that.... weird.... I swiped info on Amendment 64 from wiki.... I guess photos were included.
@Funky-Munky@GrungedThank you. I know the Amendment. I was referring to the bureaucracy and tax aspect.
@Grunged I provided for others in addition... some still weren't aware. :D)
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I think the story has this backwards. Â This is not about a tax on marijuana trademarks. Â It's about a politician who has a pet project with no chance of being enacted, who wants to tax marijuana trademarks to give it some chance of passing. Â Just another example of how politicians are insatiable when it comes to spending money. Â One pet project after another.
Looks like the time is right for me to get into the black market selling end of this. I'll make a fortune and the state will be the ones sending customers my way. Thanks Olympia!
@SgtPepperSpray Trouble is I am my best customer... breaks down to preferred customer.... translation... only customer. Ha!
well, my stuff's called 'the boom-bastik' feel free to ask around...just dont tell the govt where u got it from...
Seems to me they are spending a lot of time and energy on an issue that may not even materialize. Already deciding where this money will be spent and instead of using it (IF) to close up some of the shortages the state has in it's plan giving the money to research that is already funded by the state. FIRST things first. Wait and see if the feds will even allow it, quit trying to find ways to spend this money before it is actually a reality, get to the issues of state budget and fix some of those problems. So far this session has only found more ways to spend money and raise taxes. ENOUGH!Â
@Jatok First you must rob, rape and pillage existing tax revenue and if it fails.... well... no worries... it was only the taxpayer's money. No harm, no foul etc.
kinda funny how marijuana went from the weed with roots in hell that had to have a multi billion $ war against to control it to a product to be promoted for a huge source of tax money in the eyes of the state. When the state got a whiff of tax dollars they turned into a Mexican drug cartel. Their enforcers will be the legal system. I'm thinking I liked it better the way it was.
@Wolfeel Best line of the day: "When the state got a whiff of tax dollars they turned into a Mexican drug cartel."
@Wolfeel The difference is the tax man doesn't typically engage in drive-by shootings.
It is unknown how much revenue this would generate, but what the heck, that does not need to be in a fiscal equation as the state will spend whatever it can get.  Parasites!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=g_0cD2bVjcY
Still waiting for legalization cause this ain't it........
Olympia is foaming at the mouth just thinking how much tax they can get from this.
So, it appears the black-market trade will NOT be going away anytime soon. Gotta love them idiots down in Olympia. Good grief.
I'll keep my blackmarket connections. The state of Washington doesn't deserve my money.
Why manage the existing tax money responsibly when you can just continue taxing taxing taxing. These politicians are totally incapable of managing the money they have now. Crooks and fools they are.
These clowns are going to tax this 'industry' out of legal existence faster than you can roll a joint!
"No stems no seeds that you don't need!, Acapulco Gold is ---Â bad ass weed!"
Taxed 25% at each stage? It'll be cheaper to buy it on the black market!
@jkdrummer  In addition there's zero guarantee the Federal Government won't commando raid those who bankrolled the grow op.! What a country... State Law Okay, Federal Law not okay..... Cluster flub!!!
What the politicians fail to understand is that the people only wanted the state to decriminalize marijuana, not turn it into a cash cow for the state.
We only wanted the state to STOP WASTING TAX MONEY ON PROSECUTING POSSESSION!
Tax his land, tax his wage,
Tax his bed in which he lays.
Tax his tractor, tax his mule,
Teach him taxes is the rule.
Tax his cow, tax his goat,
Tax his pants, tax his coat...
Etc, Etc.
Jay Inslee: Washingtonians are growing tired of cookie cutter politicians, gross mismanagement and most of all over-taxation! Many have forgone raises, incurred increased costs in benefits and in some cases loss in pay etc.! Get with the people and find out what's going on.... Not the golf club, middle-class/upper etc.! The people you folks always avoid Jay.... "we the people" don't be afraid to mingle a bit! Â
Wish they were eyeing a balanced budget and how to let the people keep more of the money they earn.
This whole new marijuana law is becoming as laughable as smoking a big fat one....
Olympia is already doing its best to mess things up.
It isn't about carrying out the will of "we the people" pertaining legalization. It's about control, monopolies and outright greed. It's sad those in charge fail to comprehend over-taxation leads to increased crime, thus furthering illicit sales and most importantly creating a negative environment for those who smoke marijuana along with those who don't! Increased illegal activity benefits no one! I am thinking the Black Market was safer, cheaper and less of a hassle. :(