Washington is first state in nation to legalize pot
SEATTLE (AP) - Washington voters legalized recreational pot use on Tuesday, setting up a showdown with a federal government that backs the drug's prohibition.
Initiative 502 would create a system of state-licensed marijuana growers, processors and retail stores, where adults over 21 can buy up to an ounce. It also establishes a standard blood test limit for driving under the influence.
"Today the state of Washington looked at 70 years of marijuana prohibition and said it's time for a new approach," said Alison Holcomb, campaign manager for the initiative.
With 50 percent of precincts reporting, the measure was passing by a vote of 55 percent to 45 percent.
Supporters celebrated with joints on a sidewalk outside the campaign party in downtown Seattle.
"I've been selling pot for 38 years," said supporter Ben Schroeter. "I've been busted multiple times, most recently eight days ago. Prohibition is stupid. We've known for decades it's stupid and this is extremely important."
Legalization could help bring in hundreds of millions of dollars a year in pot taxes, reduce small-time pot-related arrests and give supporters a chance to show whether decriminalization is a viable strategy in the war on drugs.
A related measure also passed in Colorado, while another marijuana legalization initiative in Oregon was defeated.
The Washington state measure was opposed by Derek Franklin, president of the Washington Association for Substance Abuse and Violence Prevention.
"Legalizing is going to increase marijuana use among kids and really create a mess with the federal government," Franklin said. "It's a bit of a tragedy for the state."
The sales won't start until state officials make rules to govern the legal weed industry, a process that could take a year.
"We have a lot of work ahead," Holcomb said. "The biggest issue I-502 presents for the federal government is that we are creating a robust regulatory scheme."
She hoped the year of rulemaking would provide time to persuade federal authorities that the measure dovetailed with federal interests.
Promoted by New Approach Washington, I-502 calls for a 25 percent excise tax at each stage from the growers on until it is sold in stores to adults 21 and over.
They could buy up to an ounce of dried marijuana; one pound of marijuana-infused product in solid form, such as brownies; or 72 ounces of marijuana-infused liquids.
The cannabis would be subject to testing to establish its THC content, and labeled accordingly.
State financial experts estimate it could raise nearly $2 billion in tax revenue over the next five years, with the money going toward education, health care, substance abuse prevention and basic government services.
When state and federal laws conflict, federal law takes precedence. Federal authorities could sue in an attempt to block I-502 from taking effect. The Justice Department has given no hints about its plans.
The campaign was notable for its sponsors and supporters, who ranged from public health experts to two of the DOJ's top former officials in Seattle, U.S. Attorneys John McKay and Kate Pflaumer.
The effort raised more than $6 million in contributions, with more than $2 million of that coming from Progressive Insurance Co. founder Peter Lewis, who used marijuana to treat pain from a leg amputation.
The ample fundraising allowed New Approach Washington to run television ads through the campaign's final weeks.
Meanwhile, I-502 had little organized opposition. Some in law enforcement and public health are concerned that increased access will lead to increased abuse, especially among teens.
Others who opposed the measure did so because it didn't go far enough, and that the blood test limits were arbitrary and could affect medical marijuana patients. Still others worried about a possible federal-state law clash.
For many voters, it came down to the notion that decades of marijuana prohibition have done more harm than good.
"It's ridiculous to be trying to maintain the law enforcement effort - all the people, all that money, all those resources - to prosecute marijuana use," supporter Karla Oman said. "Tax it, legalize it, everybody wins."
Sean Saulter, 30, of Seattle voted for the initiative because he wanted to see the issue go before the U.S. Supreme Court.
For George Cannon, 43, of Seattle, it was an issue of personal freedom. "I'm not into getting into other people's business," he said.
Initiative 502 found strong support among liberals and moderates, Democrats and those with more than a high school degree. Independents and women were split on the issue, as were suburbanites. I-502 fared well in King County and the Puget Sound area, but not in Eastern Washington, Southwest Washington or on the Olympic Peninsula.
Opposition came from voters 65 and older, conservatives, Republicans and those with a high school degree or less. Weekly churchgoers rejected the measure, while those who said they never attend religious services or considered themselves occasional churchgoers favored legalizing pot.
The initiative led among voters with family incomes of $100,000 or more, but was about even in lower income groups.
The survey of Washington state voters was conducted for AP and television networks by Edison Research. This includes preliminary results from a survey of 1,493 voters who voted early or absentee and were interviewed by landline or cellular telephone from Oct. 29 through Nov. 4. Results for the full sample were subject to sampling error of plus or minus 3 percentage points; it is higher for subgroups.
Initiative 502 would create a system of state-licensed marijuana growers, processors and retail stores, where adults over 21 can buy up to an ounce. It also establishes a standard blood test limit for driving under the influence.
"Today the state of Washington looked at 70 years of marijuana prohibition and said it's time for a new approach," said Alison Holcomb, campaign manager for the initiative.
With 50 percent of precincts reporting, the measure was passing by a vote of 55 percent to 45 percent.
Supporters celebrated with joints on a sidewalk outside the campaign party in downtown Seattle.
"I've been selling pot for 38 years," said supporter Ben Schroeter. "I've been busted multiple times, most recently eight days ago. Prohibition is stupid. We've known for decades it's stupid and this is extremely important."
Legalization could help bring in hundreds of millions of dollars a year in pot taxes, reduce small-time pot-related arrests and give supporters a chance to show whether decriminalization is a viable strategy in the war on drugs.
A related measure also passed in Colorado, while another marijuana legalization initiative in Oregon was defeated.
The Washington state measure was opposed by Derek Franklin, president of the Washington Association for Substance Abuse and Violence Prevention.
"Legalizing is going to increase marijuana use among kids and really create a mess with the federal government," Franklin said. "It's a bit of a tragedy for the state."
The sales won't start until state officials make rules to govern the legal weed industry, a process that could take a year.
"We have a lot of work ahead," Holcomb said. "The biggest issue I-502 presents for the federal government is that we are creating a robust regulatory scheme."
She hoped the year of rulemaking would provide time to persuade federal authorities that the measure dovetailed with federal interests.
Promoted by New Approach Washington, I-502 calls for a 25 percent excise tax at each stage from the growers on until it is sold in stores to adults 21 and over.
They could buy up to an ounce of dried marijuana; one pound of marijuana-infused product in solid form, such as brownies; or 72 ounces of marijuana-infused liquids.
The cannabis would be subject to testing to establish its THC content, and labeled accordingly.
State financial experts estimate it could raise nearly $2 billion in tax revenue over the next five years, with the money going toward education, health care, substance abuse prevention and basic government services.
When state and federal laws conflict, federal law takes precedence. Federal authorities could sue in an attempt to block I-502 from taking effect. The Justice Department has given no hints about its plans.
The campaign was notable for its sponsors and supporters, who ranged from public health experts to two of the DOJ's top former officials in Seattle, U.S. Attorneys John McKay and Kate Pflaumer.
The effort raised more than $6 million in contributions, with more than $2 million of that coming from Progressive Insurance Co. founder Peter Lewis, who used marijuana to treat pain from a leg amputation.
The ample fundraising allowed New Approach Washington to run television ads through the campaign's final weeks.
Meanwhile, I-502 had little organized opposition. Some in law enforcement and public health are concerned that increased access will lead to increased abuse, especially among teens.
Others who opposed the measure did so because it didn't go far enough, and that the blood test limits were arbitrary and could affect medical marijuana patients. Still others worried about a possible federal-state law clash.
For many voters, it came down to the notion that decades of marijuana prohibition have done more harm than good.
"It's ridiculous to be trying to maintain the law enforcement effort - all the people, all that money, all those resources - to prosecute marijuana use," supporter Karla Oman said. "Tax it, legalize it, everybody wins."
Sean Saulter, 30, of Seattle voted for the initiative because he wanted to see the issue go before the U.S. Supreme Court.
For George Cannon, 43, of Seattle, it was an issue of personal freedom. "I'm not into getting into other people's business," he said.
Initiative 502 found strong support among liberals and moderates, Democrats and those with more than a high school degree. Independents and women were split on the issue, as were suburbanites. I-502 fared well in King County and the Puget Sound area, but not in Eastern Washington, Southwest Washington or on the Olympic Peninsula.
Opposition came from voters 65 and older, conservatives, Republicans and those with a high school degree or less. Weekly churchgoers rejected the measure, while those who said they never attend religious services or considered themselves occasional churchgoers favored legalizing pot.
The initiative led among voters with family incomes of $100,000 or more, but was about even in lower income groups.
The survey of Washington state voters was conducted for AP and television networks by Edison Research. This includes preliminary results from a survey of 1,493 voters who voted early or absentee and were interviewed by landline or cellular telephone from Oct. 29 through Nov. 4. Results for the full sample were subject to sampling error of plus or minus 3 percentage points; it is higher for subgroups.
Marijuana stinks
I'm a weekly churchgoer and I fully supported this measure. Â The national war on drugs is a horrible disaster, and obviously has done nothing to curtail drug use. Â 60,000 dead in Mexico due to the drug war - what purpose has this "war" served other than to drive up the price of drugs and turn otherwise law-abiding citizens into criminals.
"Initiative 502 found strong support among liberals and moderates, Democrats and those with more than a high school degree. Independents and women were split on the issue, as were suburbanites. I-502 fared well in King County and the Puget Sound area, but not in Eastern Washington, Southwest Washington or on the Olympic Peninsula. Opposition came from voters 65 and older, conservatives, Republicans and those with a high school degree or less. Weekly churchgoers rejected the measure, while those who said they never attend religious services or considered themselves occasional churchgoers favored legalizing pot."
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So what they are saying is stupid people supported the initiative,
This is opening a cesspool of crazy.If you smoked last month, and get pulled over, and there is any sort of "probable cause", (which is up to the officer), a blood test will be administered, and your nanogram ammount will be about ten to a hundred times the "legal limit"....Hmmmmm, what does the court do with a person who has consumed 10 to a hundred times the legal limit of alcohol? Prison. Treatment. A huge label. Shame. 12 step groups. This is not favorable to the weed smoker. It is a state system of entrapment and enslavery. It is a phoney "victory". Growing and selling will still be illegal. Government weed. As usual the stoners didnt think this one out at all. Gawd weed makes one smart....huh?
P.S. Obama will probbly move to WA or CO once he leaves office. Wooopee dope!
They are saying only Republicans, the uneducated, the 65 year olds who probably have "been there done that" because they came up through the hippy era, and church goers are the ignorant who don't smoke dope? Really? Guess Obama has his pollsters calling the list he gave them.Â
Because of time zone differences, Colorado was first........not sure I'd be proud to be in either state!
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Here's some great photos of the good stuff along with a little info.
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Where will people be allowed to smoke this? Â Will they be allowed to smoke in public? Â What about parks?
@sh78 I bet they'll let us smoke it in our underwear, smoke it in the sand, but never smoke it near Green Eggs and Ham....
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 @sh78 Didnt you read the initiative? Privacy of your own property, where most people use it now. Will you see it in parks? probably, but no more than you see people drinking in public parks and certainly not hanging outside your local 7-11. I actually doubt the usage will change much, those of us who chose not to partake, will continue with that choice, those that choose to, will still be labeled if seen so they will still want to keep it private.Â
Great now the federal government can still say no and bust us... they better get that part figured out. If people want to smoke this junk that is fine with me as long as they regulate it and tax it to hell just like cigarettes and alcohol. Also that includes treated stoned driving the same as DUI
@Freespeech they can bust us for nuttin'... ;-)
Shoot...disappointed about this approval. I know I am in the minority in this (obviously:), but I don't think that altering your state of consciousness is safe/wise thing to do unless you are supervised by a doctor. There are so many ways to healthily alter your state of consciousness that has much more positive results than smoking marijuana. I have read and studied this issue quite a bit and I think we are jumping to an extreme harm reduction strategy without much thought being put into it. I am all for legalizing it for medical purposes, but pot is the not the silver bullet for fixing our money problems and people will continue to get pot illegally at non sanctioned locations.....unfortunately I don't think this legislation will solve the problem.
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Of course I never did that, harumph... :-) That I'm willing to admit.....OK many many moons ago, I might have partaken of the ganja......
 @Aep I'm sure this will not fix the problem either, but I do believe it is a start. The way the taxation and regulatory language was written in to this initiative is pretty bad and I also believe that it is not going to bring a lot of growers out of the closet, so to speak. I also respect your views on altering ones mind..........however, I'm a big believer in personal freedoms. Just because I neither partake nor drink alcohol does not mean that I would try to keep those liberties away from those that do, even knowing that there are those that abuse those liberties now........some things will never change. But, hopefully this is a step in the right direction and people can really start looking at the realities of use of MJ and products derived from it. I think we have a long road ahead, and the way this state likes to regulate things to death is not really that great a start to this, but I'm hopeful.
If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so." Thomas Jefferson
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Voting to legalize is one thing, but implementing legalization is another. I remember when Olympia said they'd never implement legalization without the feds ok. Its as illegal today as it was yesterday, but at least its a step in the right direction.
 @johnbe "Olympia" never said that.  Our current governor (who is leaving office in a few months) said this a year ago: "I will not subject my state employees to federal prosecution -- period".  That was after being threatened that state employees running a medical marijuana patient registry could be prosecuted for helping people use marijuana.  She did however approve parts of the marijuana act that caused that response.
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There seems to be a lot of misinformation and poorly written posts along with the several coherent ones.  I am a medical user (Parkinson's; EO) and have been involved with the medical side of this relatively new model we've had for the last several years.  This ballot measure was meant to co-exist with the current MMJ laws on the books, though we medical users will still have the right to grow our own or use the collective model to obtain our cannabis.  Most of us that are professionals in the healthcare system already know what many folks can't seem to square--  cannabis just isn't that dangerous.  Yes, you can abuse it-- like most things; but abusing cannabis doesn't cost the healthcare system in maintenance dollars the way that cigarettes and alcohol does.  No one dies from using cannabis and the arguments against its legalization, ironically, were mostly from the medical marijuana community-- citing the 5ng/L limit for operating a(ny) vehicle and the propensity of LE to 'over-test' anyone, from those caught speeding to the 'missing front license plate' , which is then typically used to write a second violation. The new law will make it difficult for me to drive legally, as I use sub-lingual cannabis tincture every AM when I get up to calm the symptoms of my PD-- I no longer feel any 'euphoric' effects from the use of cannabis-- most medical patients do not; but under the new legislation, I would technically be DUI when I leave for work every morning. Â
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They say any step is a step in the right direction and perhaps they are right-- we'll see how the federal government reacts when the legal structures get setup and folks start paying taxes into the state's coffers.  As we see in Colorado where tax from medical cannabis is now a sizable part of the state's revenue-- once it is on the books and the dollars are allocated, they almost never get rescinded.Â
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I have read the entirety of the legislation and I would encourage or challenge anyone who has preconceived notions or stereotypes about the use of cannabis to do the same.  It is *not* a gateway drug, though I know many folks would like to draw a straight line from marijuana to other illicit substances and have already made their minds up, regardless of the (numerous) studies done to show that this isn't the case.  Most of the newer studies I read (and there are many, thankfully) show that cannabis has many untapped potential uses-- among them reduced cancer risk (across the board,) anxiolytic properties, anti-depressant, anti-emetic, spacticity control... the list continues to evolve-- as should we.
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I'm not advocating underage use-- and I believe that legalizing it will actually keep more teens from recreationally using it.  In developed countries where cannabis is legal, there has been a statistically significant drop in underage use (re: Portugal, Holland, et. all) and I see no reason why that should or would be different here.Â
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As with most things, education is the key.
Your comment is well written, and well thought-out, but unless laws have changed in Holland, pot remains illegal throughout The Netherlands. I know some think Jamaica legalized pot too, but that's just not so. I think the laws against pot should be repealed, not compounded as WA has done by creating a law that's still in the R&D phase. But without all the answers known, baby steps, baby steps. Maybe other states will come on board and the feds will eventually repeal their laws.
 @johnbe Yes, cannabis is 'technically' illegal in the Netherlands; but it has been completely decriminalized since 1976 and the mayor just dropped the "tourist" ban on cannabis cafes-- so I suppose semantically I was incorrect.
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Baby steps, indeed. Â It will certainly be interesting to see how the two markets (medical vs. recreational) will co-exist, as there are far fewer taxes on the medicinal cannabis and one can find good top-shelf medicine for less than $10/gram, while the retail side for recreational use will have to be closer to twice that (or more...) due to the tax structure. Â Uneven markets always bring in the arbitrageurs.
Decriminalization is about what the government will allow, but Legalization is about what the people want. This so-called "Legalization" per I-502 with all of it's new regulations and taxes seems more like the former than the latter. I think this is a good start, but I'm amazed at how many people think its now legal in WA or really believe it will become so in a year.
the Evergreen State has a whole new meaning !
 @Komo Dragon I've been saying for a while...it's greener INSIDE than it is outside around here.
Hmmm, does that mean more Pot Smoker's will be moving to the State of Washington?
Someone may have already addressed this, but I think that legaizing small amounts for recreational possession will free up law enforcement resources that can be focused on deaing with more serious crimes.
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If it doesn't work out, we can repeal it in the next election.
 @Smokin Bear In theory I think is true, but most people that I know that get caught will small amounts of pot don't have any consequences whatsoever and police look the other way, well, almost always. I am not sure I would trust the numbers you read on that particular issue.
It's interesting that those who oppose legalizing marijuana now go straight to describing the worst case scenarios, every kid in the nation suddenly is smoking marijuana, driving under the influence, etc. Â
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If these people REALLY cared they would instead focus on EDUCATION. Â This is an excellent time to continue drug/marijuana education in kids and teach them the pro's and con's of smoking marijuana so they can make a legal and educated decision when they are presented with the opportunity to consume marijuana.
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Education is the key here, nothing else. Â Marijuana has benefits and it has drawbacks, but none of that will matter if we don't educate our populace, starting with kids and parents.
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as you cant hide growing to your children , it would make a liar out of you , or what happens when they find it , my child is well awary of my grow room , and it is just no big deal , she has a clear understanding that is is organic medicine, that you cant get in a poisen pill, she also sees the lies told on pills ,the bad side effects ,(we laugh about that) she also see how it helps us with pain , and the fact we dont have cancer in our home (again) not since we make oil , so as i dont want schools to tell hers gay marrage is right and that cannabis is wrong , im sure glad shes smart enough to know marijuana is not a drug ,and gay is wrong , Â
 @greengrower I believe you are doing those of us who are literate medical users a disservice by throwing your poorly written, misspelled, and incorrectly punctuated (not to mention homophobic) statement out there.
Probaby the same thing when your child finds beer in the fridge. There was a time when alcohol was illegal.
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If we stop demonizing it, I think that pot is far less harmful than alcohol. And like anything else, people who choose to partake, can do it responsibly
Well, we won't agree on this issue - I do know how harmful alcohol is and how beneficial Marijuana is in contrast. Â
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However, I do respect how you feel and thank you for posting your thoughts. You matter and how you think matters.
@Susabelle @Aep - Recreational is good enough for me...Bwa-ha-ha-ha-ha....Actually I don't smoke it or tobacco anymore, so I'm looking out for my fellow citizens by supporting the issue. Just like supporting R-74 even though I'm not gay.
 @Aep  @Smokin Bear There are so many more reasons to legalize this than just recreational use. Hemp is a renewable resource that produces great products...oil, paper, fabric etc............ I personally share your beliefs on the harm of altering your consciousness BUT I also believe that there some real benefits to MJ. People really need to educate themselves on this subject and not just spout off refer madness bs. This can be a real benefit to a lot of people. I think I would suggest smoking joint before bed long before suggesting a whole host of pills we have been popping for a generation or two........ Â
 @Smokin Bear Just because Alcohol may be more harmful than marijuana doesn't mean that it is right to legalize pot for recreational use.....have you looked at the harm that alcohol causes? It is absolutely devastating. If pot causes a tiny fraction of the problem alcohol does, it will also be devastating. The legality of alcohol is not an excuse to legalize pot. If we were more responsible human beings who were intelligent enough to have a good time without totally obliterating our state of consciousness, then alcohol would not be legal either.
 @greengrower Well, growing at home will be illegal, so hiding a grow operation from isn't an issue with this law.
not likly being i have a card and my friend the sherrif told me im good and legal
Well I hate to say it but the State just became what they were trying to fight, a "Cartel". Growers, distributers, & retailers will each be taxed 25%, sounds like a cartel to me. All will have buy a license from the State which will cost $250.00 to start and $1000.00 a year to maintain. So you can't grow your own unless you pay the State a grand per yr. Growers can only sell to distributers, distributers can only sell to retailers. And since the LCB will be the retailers, your $10 gram is gonna cost you $12.50  Yes, it will save the courts millions for not having to prosecute pot possesion. However the changes in the DUI laws will have courts just as busy if not more so. Did any of you actually read the voters guide?Â
 @MissouriJohnson The state became an illegal black market drug cartel paying for gangs to make our neighborhoods more dangerous???  Wow!
That said, federal law still says marijuana is an illegal drug, so donât break out the Cheetos or Goldfish too quickly.â
What happens if you are driving and smoking pot, and you come upon the stateline? Will you just toss the rest of your weed out the window in the Washington side, before crossing? I can see the huge long lines crossing to Canada, especially for people with Washington plates. I hope they have enough holding cells and big lockers for evidence holding. Once it is legalized, more people will be using it.
 @whatithink shouldn't be driving and smoking pot.
 @whatithink You would get a DUI if you were driving and smoking pot.
You stole that line off GMA!
 @MissouriJohnson Actually he stole it from the Governor of Colorado, who had that childish remark to say about it this morning.
Tim Lincecum is a free agent in 2014. This should give the Mariners an advantage in acquiring his services.
 @quorndawg Seattle teams now have a new tool in their belt to acquire Free Agent talent. hahaha - I wonder if the NFL will ever remove it from their banned substances?