Voters narrowly approving same-sex marriage
OLYMPIA, Wash. (AP) - Supporters of gay marriage in Washington state said they were in a "very strong position" Tuesday night, with early returns showing voters narrowly approving same-sex marriage in the state after residents gave similar measures the go-ahead in Maryland and Maine.
With about half the expected ballots counted, Referendum 74 was passing with 52 percent of the vote.
The measure asked Washingtonians to approve or reject a state law legalizing same-sex marriage that lawmakers passed earlier this year. That law was signed by Gov. Chris Gregoire but has been on hold pending the election's outcome.
"I think it's premature to declare victory, but we're in a very strong position," said Zach Silk, a spokesman for Washington United for Marriage, which supports gay marriage.
Other supporters were even more optimistic, cheering and hugging in response to the results at election watch parties in the state. In Seattle's Capitol Hill neighborhood, the police closed off several blocks for an outdoor election celebration, where more than 1,000 people were dancing and chanting "74, 74, 74."
The measure was losing in 31 of the state's 39 counties. But it had its strongest lead - 65 percent of the vote - in King County, the state's largest county and home to Seattle.
About $13.6 million has been spent on the campaign, with the bulk of it coming from gay marriage supporters. Washington United for Marriage far outraised its opponents, bringing in more than $12 million compared with the $2.7 million raised by Preserve Marriage Washington, which opposes the law.
"We remain cautiously optimistic that when all the ballots are in that the voters of Washington will not redefine marriage," said Chip White, a Preserve Marriage spokesman. "We don't need to win King County to win the state. There's still a path to victory for us."
Maine and Maryland on Tuesday night became the first states to approve same-sex marriage by popular vote. They join six other states - New York, Connecticut, Iowa, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, Vermont - and the District of Columbia in allowing gay marriage.
Maine's measure passed with 54 percent of the vote, while the measure in Maryland matched Washington state's lead of 52-48 percent. In Minnesota, voters rejected a proposed constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage in their state. Gay marriage remains illegal under Minnesota state law.
In Washington, preliminary results from exit polling data showed there were political and religious divides among voters over the measure - with just one in five Republicans backing it, compared with more than eight in 10 Democrats and a majority of independents.
Those who attend weekly church services were more strongly opposed to gay marriage. Just one-quarter of weekly churchgoers backed the legalization of same-sex marriage, while four out of five voters who never attend church favored it. A majority of married women supported R-74, but married men broke against it.
Voters in Eastern Washington tied on the issue.
The survey of Washington voters was conducted for The Associated Press and television networks by Edison Research. It included preliminary results from a survey of 1,493 voters who voted early or absentee and were interviewed by landline or cellular telephone from Oct. 29 through Nov. 4. Results for the full sample were subject to sampling error of plus or minus 3 percentage points; it is higher for subgroups.
The road to gay marriage in Washington state began several years ago.
A year after the state's gay marriage ban was upheld by the state Supreme Court, the state's first domestic partnership law passed in 2007, granting couples about two dozen rights, including hospital visitation and inheritance rights when there is no will. It was expanded a year later, and then again in 2009, when lawmakers completed the package with the so-called "everything but marriage" bill that was ultimately upheld by voters later that same year.
This year, lawmakers passed the law allowing gay marriage, and Gregoire signed it in February. Preserve Marriage gathered enough signatures for a referendum, and the law never took effect, instead remaining on hold pending the election.
If voters uphold the law, gay couples could start picking up their marriage certificates and licenses from county auditor offices Dec. 6, a day after the election is certified. However, because Washington state has a three-day waiting period, the earliest the certificate could be signed, making the marriage valid, is Dec. 9.
The law doesn't require religious organizations or churches to perform marriages, and doesn't subject churches to penalties if they don't marry gay or lesbian couples.
The outcomes of the measures in Maine and Maryland broke a 32-state streak that dated back to 1998 in which gay marriage had been rejected by every state that voted on it. The other states that allow gay marriage either enacted laws or issued court rulings permitting it.
With about half the expected ballots counted, Referendum 74 was passing with 52 percent of the vote.
The measure asked Washingtonians to approve or reject a state law legalizing same-sex marriage that lawmakers passed earlier this year. That law was signed by Gov. Chris Gregoire but has been on hold pending the election's outcome.
"I think it's premature to declare victory, but we're in a very strong position," said Zach Silk, a spokesman for Washington United for Marriage, which supports gay marriage.
Other supporters were even more optimistic, cheering and hugging in response to the results at election watch parties in the state. In Seattle's Capitol Hill neighborhood, the police closed off several blocks for an outdoor election celebration, where more than 1,000 people were dancing and chanting "74, 74, 74."
The measure was losing in 31 of the state's 39 counties. But it had its strongest lead - 65 percent of the vote - in King County, the state's largest county and home to Seattle.
About $13.6 million has been spent on the campaign, with the bulk of it coming from gay marriage supporters. Washington United for Marriage far outraised its opponents, bringing in more than $12 million compared with the $2.7 million raised by Preserve Marriage Washington, which opposes the law.
"We remain cautiously optimistic that when all the ballots are in that the voters of Washington will not redefine marriage," said Chip White, a Preserve Marriage spokesman. "We don't need to win King County to win the state. There's still a path to victory for us."
Maine and Maryland on Tuesday night became the first states to approve same-sex marriage by popular vote. They join six other states - New York, Connecticut, Iowa, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, Vermont - and the District of Columbia in allowing gay marriage.
Maine's measure passed with 54 percent of the vote, while the measure in Maryland matched Washington state's lead of 52-48 percent. In Minnesota, voters rejected a proposed constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage in their state. Gay marriage remains illegal under Minnesota state law.
In Washington, preliminary results from exit polling data showed there were political and religious divides among voters over the measure - with just one in five Republicans backing it, compared with more than eight in 10 Democrats and a majority of independents.
Those who attend weekly church services were more strongly opposed to gay marriage. Just one-quarter of weekly churchgoers backed the legalization of same-sex marriage, while four out of five voters who never attend church favored it. A majority of married women supported R-74, but married men broke against it.
Voters in Eastern Washington tied on the issue.
The survey of Washington voters was conducted for The Associated Press and television networks by Edison Research. It included preliminary results from a survey of 1,493 voters who voted early or absentee and were interviewed by landline or cellular telephone from Oct. 29 through Nov. 4. Results for the full sample were subject to sampling error of plus or minus 3 percentage points; it is higher for subgroups.
The road to gay marriage in Washington state began several years ago.
A year after the state's gay marriage ban was upheld by the state Supreme Court, the state's first domestic partnership law passed in 2007, granting couples about two dozen rights, including hospital visitation and inheritance rights when there is no will. It was expanded a year later, and then again in 2009, when lawmakers completed the package with the so-called "everything but marriage" bill that was ultimately upheld by voters later that same year.
This year, lawmakers passed the law allowing gay marriage, and Gregoire signed it in February. Preserve Marriage gathered enough signatures for a referendum, and the law never took effect, instead remaining on hold pending the election.
If voters uphold the law, gay couples could start picking up their marriage certificates and licenses from county auditor offices Dec. 6, a day after the election is certified. However, because Washington state has a three-day waiting period, the earliest the certificate could be signed, making the marriage valid, is Dec. 9.
The law doesn't require religious organizations or churches to perform marriages, and doesn't subject churches to penalties if they don't marry gay or lesbian couples.
The outcomes of the measures in Maine and Maryland broke a 32-state streak that dated back to 1998 in which gay marriage had been rejected by every state that voted on it. The other states that allow gay marriage either enacted laws or issued court rulings permitting it.
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It's not set yet..... 744,000+ votes to be counted still.
http://vote.wa.gov/results/current/Turnout.html
@Eric Darnell they conceded so you better watch out. I am sure you are going to get a bunch of guys proposing to you.
To those of you who are against gay marriage, are you also upset that African Americans can drink from the same water fountain you do? I be you still wish segregation was practiced. It's called EQUAL RIGHTS. You can hide behind your "morals", your religion or your god but it is what it is - plain and simple bigotry.
 @Anarchy Im sorry but segregation and homosexuality are two completely different things. Because I dont agree with the act of same sex marriage does not make it bigotry. I dont agree with Obama...does that make me racist? No, it simply means I have different opinions and values and morals. Plain and simple.Â
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@RaeRae They are both EQUAL RIGHTS so they are the same. And you can make all the excuses you want to with your religion. How is same sex marriage affecting you? It doesn't. I don't like rap music so should I try and outlaw it for everyone? That is how ridiculous your arguement is.
@jrnsea I hope you are not directly that at me. I totally agree with you!Â
 @RaeRae  @Anarchy Your typing out of your a**.  Marrying children is ILLEGAL.  Rape and child murder along with your ignorance and UTTER stupidity is a choice. Criminals make the choice to commit those crimes and in turn loose their rights.  Homosexuality is not a choice nor a crime.  So I really don't understand what point your trying to make.  And overall it sounds like you just being a sore looser.....Does the passing of 74 hurt?  You need a band-aid?
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@RaeRae You said children. That is not legal and you know it. This has to do with consenting adults. All consenting adults have the right to be married now that this passed. You do not make sense bringing up children getting married. You don't seem to understand the law or what equal rights actual means. And gays getting the right to marry doesn't constitute "getting away with something." You are such a bigot. Just admit it. I would have more respect for you if you just admitted it.
 @Anarchy  @RaeRae it is related. If one group of people are allowed to get away with something in the name of "equal rights" then it allows other groups of people to come knocking on the door claiming they want something passed in favor for them in the name of "equal rights"
@RaeRae I am talking consenting adults. And yes, murderers and child rapists do have the right to marry (other consenting adults). It is always funny to me when someone doesn' have an answer they bring up something totally unrelated and completely ridiculous.
 @Anarchy  @RaeRae Ok so if adults want to start marrying children we should allow it in the name of "equal rights"? Why not start giving murderers and child rapists "equal rights"  too. I mean cause it all comes down too "Everyone needs to be treated the same" correct?
Second reason...Marriage is not just any relationship between human beings. It is a relationship rooted in human nature and thus governed by natural law. Natural lawâs most elementary precept is that âgood is to be done and pursued, and evil is to be avoided.â By his natural reason, man can perceive what is morally good or bad for him. Thus, he can know the end or purpose of each of his acts and how it is morally wrong to transform the means that help him accomplish an act into the actâs purpose. Any situation which institutionalizes the circumvention of the purpose of the sexual act violates natural law and the objective norm of morality. Being rooted in human nature, natural law is universal and immutable. It applies to the entire human race, equally. It commands and forbids consistently, everywhere and always.
 @Luke0walton I have a few questions I would love for you to answer.
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You have no idea who I am. Chances are we will never meet outside these message boards. I am straight. How does my marriage affect yours? How does two men getting married and filing joint tax returns affect your marriage? Why does it matter what two consenting strangers (at least to you) regardless of sex (same or different) do in their bedroom? What does it matter to you how two people have sex, regardless of gender?
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Lets say a woman was born without the proper baby making equipment. It happens. It's called MRKH, look it up. Should she be allowed to marry? Is her straight marriage suddenly not valid because she isn't able to pop out babies the natural way? Should she not be allowed to have sex with her husband because she can't make babies, so there's no point?
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remember, it's easy to judge when you are holding the bag of stones.
 @BlueJediOne of multiple reasons... It Always Denies a Child Either a Father or a Mother It is in the childâs best interests that he be raised under the influence of his natural father and mother. This rule is confirmed by the evident difficulties faced by the many children who are orphans or are raised by a single parent, a relative, or a foster parent. The unfortunate situation of these children will be the norm for all children of a same-sex âmarriage.â A child of a same-sex âmarriageâ will always be deprived of either his natural mother or father. He will necessarily be raised by one party who has no blood relationship with him. He will always be deprived of either a mother or a father role model. Same-sex âmarriageâ ignores a childâs best interests.
@Luke0walton @BlueJedi I think 2 parents are better than one when it is a loving and functional relationship. That could mean a man and a woman, 2 men or two women. How can you say child's best interests to be raised by its natural parents (and I am giving you the benefit of the doubt that by "natural" you mean biological). What if the parents are abusive or druggies as BLUEJEDI has admitted to? Your arguement doesn't make sense. You have no valid points or arguements. Just admit you are a bigot and move on.
1. It Is Not Marriage Calling something marriage does not make it marriage. Marriage has always been a covenant between a man and a woman which is by its nature ordered toward the procreation and education of children and the unity and wellbeing of the spouses. The promoters of same-sex âmarriageâ propose something entirely different. They propose the union between two men or two women. This denies the self-evident biological, physiological, and psychological differences between men and women which find their complementarity in marriage. It also denies the specific primary purpose of marriage: the perpetuation of the human race and the raising of children. Two entirely different things cannot be considered the same thing.
 @Luke0walton What if a child wants two parents of the same sex?  I will never forget my niece telling me in front of her biological father that she wished I was her father too.  No harm ever came to her wishing that I was her father.  As a matter of fact my niece obtained her master's degree in only one year. Â
 @Luke0walton KOMO, PLEASE give us back the thumb's down button!
For anyone who wants to know what makes a bible based marriage please check out this video:
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Honestly, i struggled to come to terms with this issue as i have problems with tv shows trying to mainstream gay relationships down our throat. Nothing against gays as i'm a live and let live kind a person, just wish it was done moderately. That said, i'm happy for them and it shouldn't take anything away from traditional marriage between man and a woman.
 @Brokesince08 Washington State on path to becoming like Sodom and Gomarrah. And we know what happened there.
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Sitting on my back pouch, waiting for the fallout. Judgement WILL be exacted. Thy will be done.
 @Nuclearian  @Brokesince08 Sodom and Gomorrah was about gay marriage?  After reading the bible and consulting actual scholars, I thought it was about a man throwing out his daughters so a crowd wouldn't rape angels.  Who knew!
 @Nuclearian  @Brokesince08 Fairy Tales are meant to teach lessons, not to be interpreted as historical fact.
 @Nuclearian  @Shabadoo  @Brokesince08 You're full of it.
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Like those things being researched that showed up in the Bible? Like researchers investigating whether Moses parted the sea for his people. Hmm. Chariots were found there, that correlated with the story of the waters running back over the following Egyptian forces.
You can "pick and choose" what you want, but it doesnt change anything.Â
 @Nuclearian I suggest that you not hold your breath. On second thought, please DO hold your breath.
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Hold your breath. It will do wonders in the increase of the intelligence gene pool.
 @Nuclearian  @Brokesince08 The only judgement I got when I went outside looking for this "fallout" was rain falling on me. Do you even understand what the story of Sodom and Gomarrah was about? Do you realize the same arguments you are using now are the same ones used pre 1967 as to why interracial marriage is wrong? The same arguments people like you are using now are the same ones used to defend slavery and why women shouldn't be allowed to vote. BTW, it's very easy to judge others when you are the one holding the bag of stones. While you are reminding us of what happened in Sodom and Gomarrah may I remind you that same book also has a passage that states something along the lines of judge not, least ye be judged?
 @Nuclearian  @BlueJedi  @Brokesince08 You don't know anything, even about the bible you quoted.
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Not judging. Just interpreting. I doubt you know the difference. Give it time, and you will see the fallout.
 @Brokesince08 Because straight relationships haven't been shoved down our throats our whole lives? Nothing against straight people, I know a lot of straight people. But why must they be all straight in my face all the time... o_O See how that works...?
 @Brokesince08 It's not down your throat if you have the mental capacity to change the channel if it bothers you that much.
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 @bille57182 Odd how an atheist like me is somehow more ethical and moral than all the Christians, Muslims, and other so-called moral religious people in prison. God does not make you good. And the idea that without god, you would be immoral is frightening and shows signs of mental instability.
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Big statement from you. More ethical and moral? You voted for the pervert marriage bill, you are NOT. Nobody who voted for that bill is moral.
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And it take more mental instability to NOT believe in a superior being creating us, but believed we "evolved" from monkeys.
 @Nuclearian  @Shabadoo  @bille57182 Not being stupid is more moral.  Also, not needing a bronze age book to tell me not to kill someone is far more moral than you thinking that a fear of hell will prevent someone from doing it.
 @bille57182 May we all be touched by his noodly appendage.
the number of posts certainly is an indicator for how passionate both sides are... Â this is becoming a full time job ;-)
Marriage should be abolished or open up all those 'special' rights to long term domestic partners who don't need to stand before a judge to commit themselves. Since abolishment is not going to happen anytime in the near future, I voted for the gays to be able to marry each other mainly because it means I'll get more wedding/reception invites (which the gays have been known to throw some killer parties).
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 @Nuclearian  @alildifferent You are a sick, nasty human being. Â
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Homosexuals never will be respected the way they want to. No matter how hard you will fight for it. You will fight, fight, fight.....all your life will be about fight. You can force the laws, but you will never change God's word or peoples minds. 48% of all state (for now) it is huge number who will not ever respect. But it is 48% US citizens only, who had legal right to vote. There are also thousands of immigrants live in the state, Somaliaâs, Europeans, Indians,,,, the majority of them against same-sex marriage. I am sorry but this is true.
 @mary Yes but obviously 48% isn't enough, the majority voted FOR it so it looks like you are in the minority now.Â
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So basically, 52% of the State says perversion is okay? God help this State. I am already renaming Seattle and Tacoma, twin sister cities, Sodom and Gomorrah.
@mary Some races won't be respected fully by everyone either. I guess we should give up that battle too. Same with gender equality. Obviously if things are wrong and have been wrong for a long long time, we should just accept that that's the way things are. Oh well.
Gays should have the same rights as others as that is what they choose to do.
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HOPWEVER... it should NOT be called Marriage. As the VERY old institution is clearly defined.
The should have something else with the same rights.
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Lets say you like soccer and most like football...she you be able to protest to have soccer called football?...NO...it is forcing your views on others.
 @Paul Calling same-sex unions something other than marriage is just a way to try to keep them separate, and separate is not equal; giving them marital rights and calling their unions something other than marriage is just a verbal form of segregation.Â
@Paul Yet no one boycots or protests vinyards or restaraunts for using the term 'marriage' when describing the blending of flavors. No one cries foul if a sports reporter uses the term 'marriage' when describing the athleticism or teamwork amongst players.
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No one holds a trademark or copyright on the term of 'marriage'. If anyone really wishes to look at this objectively, they would realize that 'marriage' between individuals is defined by the parties directly involved. My marriage isn't affected by the actions of Tiger Woods or Kim Kardashian. My marriage wasn't voted on. This is a civil rights issue and nothing more. Your views of what your marriage is, are just that, YOUR views and nothing more.
 @Paul You do realize the rest of the world calls soccer football right?
@Paul This VERY old institution used to allow men to pay a womans parents for the right to marry and also to marry as many as you would like in some cultures. So should that still be okay too? Seems like a pretty foggy institution at best.
 @Paul Marriage has been around since before christianity.  I'm an atheist married to an atheist and we are not having kids...should our marriage be called something else?  What's it matter to you what it's called?
Why are you married since you don't believe in God? Did a priest perform your ceremony? If so why- since you don't believe in God?
 @Nuclearian  @chickysgirl  @boochyan28 Cowardly, egomaniacal self importance.
 @saywhat Grow up!!!!!!
 @chickysgirl  @boochyan28 Marriage is BLESSED by God. If performed by a RELIGIOUS person, it is a marriage. Where GOD's law differs from MAN's law, then Gods law supercedes.Â
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Bible says homosexuality is an abomination, thus homosexual marriages is not biblically condoned. Mans law says different, but once again, biblical law supercedes. So Washington State saying it is legal is mute. The STATE of Sodom may says its okay, but they will have to reckon with their decision. Everybody eventually dies, and meets their maker. Whether you believe in him or not.
 @saywhat Well. If a religious person performed their wedding, then they arent married. At least according to their beliefs.
 @chickysgirl Absolutely agree - I guess my question was more of a desperate rhetorical outcry for some logical thinking. Sigh.
 @boochyan28 If you are reading these comments from people, then you know the answer to your last question. Apparently one third to one half of the voters in this state think that marriage equals religion. I know it's not true--because only the state can issues 'marriage' licenses and we all know the state is not a religious institution. But, that apparently holds no meaning to that large group of folks who think marriage is exclusively reilgious and thus since they think religion prohibits homosexuality, they cannot get married.
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 @saywhat Fair enough. You're probably in the USA, on planet Earth - a country in which marriage is a legal contract that can be conducted as part of religion...OR done secularly. Who says God has to be involved?
If you're reading my comments and responding what do you think?
 @saywhat What planet are you from?