Washington pot vote makes waves with Latin America leaders

MEXICO CITY (AP) - A group of Latin American leaders declared Monday that votes by two U.S. states to legalize marijuana have important implications for efforts to quash drug smuggling, offering the first government reaction from a region increasingly frustrated with the U.S.-backed war on drugs.
The declaration by the leaders of Mexico, Belize, Honduras and Costa Rica did not explicitly say they were considering weakening their governments' efforts against marijuana smuggling, but it strongly implied the votes last week in Colorado and Washington would make enforcement of marijuana bans more difficult.
The four called for the Organization of American States to study the impact of the Colorado and Washington votes and said the United Nations' General Assembly should hold a special session on the prohibition of drugs by 2015 at the latest.
Last week, the most influential adviser to Mexico's president-elect, who takes office Dec. 1, questioned how the country will enforce a ban on growing and smuggling a drug that is now legal under some U.S. state laws. The Obama administration has yet to make clear how strongly it will enforce a federal ban on marijuana that is not affected by the Colorado and Washington votes.
"It has become necessary to analyze in depth the implications for public policy and health in our nations emerging from the state and local moves to allow the legal production, consumption and distribution of marijuana in some countries of our continent," Mexican President Felipe Calderon said after a meeting with Honduran President Porfirio Lobo, Costa Rican President Laura Chinchilla and Prime Minister Dean Barrow of Belize.
Marijuana legalization by U.S. states is "a paradigm change on the part of those entities in respect to the current international system," Calderon said.
Mexico has seen tens of thousands of people killed over the last six years during a militarized government campaign against the country's drug cartels.
President-elect Enrique Pena Nieto has promised to shift Mexico's focus to preventing violence against ordinary citizens, although he says he intends to keep battling cartels and is opposed to drug legalization. Guatemala's president has advocated the international legalization of drugs.
Monday's statement by the four leaders "is an important indicator of the desire to engage in a more robust discussion of policy," said Eric Olson, associate director of the Mexico Institute at the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars in Washington.
The call by the four presidents was welcomed by marijuana activists in the U.S. Forcing international review of drug policies was a stated goal of the campaigns for legalization in Colorado and Washington.
"Marijuana prohibition in this country has been detrimental - but it's been absolutely catastrophic to our southern neighbors," said Dan Riffle, an analyst and lobbying for the Marijuana Policy Project, a Washington, D.C.-based advocacy group that largely financed the two campaigns.
Mexico is one of the primary suppliers of marijuana to the U.S., while Honduras and Belize are important stops on the northward passage of cocaine from South America. Costa Rica is seeing increasing use of its territory by drug traffickers.
Luis Videgaray, head of Pena Nieto's transition team, told Radio Formula on Wednesday that the votes in the two states complicated his country's commitment to stopping the growing and smuggling of marijuana.
"Obviously we can't handle a product that is illegal in Mexico, trying to stop its transfer to the United States, when in the United States, at least in part of the United States, it now has a different status," Videgaray said.
Videgaray stopped short of threatening to curtail Mexican enforcement of marijuana laws, but his comments appeared likely to increase pressure on the Obama administration to strictly enforce U.S. federal law, which still forbids recreational pot use.
The declaration by the leaders of Mexico, Belize, Honduras and Costa Rica did not explicitly say they were considering weakening their governments' efforts against marijuana smuggling, but it strongly implied the votes last week in Colorado and Washington would make enforcement of marijuana bans more difficult.
The four called for the Organization of American States to study the impact of the Colorado and Washington votes and said the United Nations' General Assembly should hold a special session on the prohibition of drugs by 2015 at the latest.
Last week, the most influential adviser to Mexico's president-elect, who takes office Dec. 1, questioned how the country will enforce a ban on growing and smuggling a drug that is now legal under some U.S. state laws. The Obama administration has yet to make clear how strongly it will enforce a federal ban on marijuana that is not affected by the Colorado and Washington votes.
"It has become necessary to analyze in depth the implications for public policy and health in our nations emerging from the state and local moves to allow the legal production, consumption and distribution of marijuana in some countries of our continent," Mexican President Felipe Calderon said after a meeting with Honduran President Porfirio Lobo, Costa Rican President Laura Chinchilla and Prime Minister Dean Barrow of Belize.
Marijuana legalization by U.S. states is "a paradigm change on the part of those entities in respect to the current international system," Calderon said.
Mexico has seen tens of thousands of people killed over the last six years during a militarized government campaign against the country's drug cartels.
President-elect Enrique Pena Nieto has promised to shift Mexico's focus to preventing violence against ordinary citizens, although he says he intends to keep battling cartels and is opposed to drug legalization. Guatemala's president has advocated the international legalization of drugs.
Monday's statement by the four leaders "is an important indicator of the desire to engage in a more robust discussion of policy," said Eric Olson, associate director of the Mexico Institute at the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars in Washington.
The call by the four presidents was welcomed by marijuana activists in the U.S. Forcing international review of drug policies was a stated goal of the campaigns for legalization in Colorado and Washington.
"Marijuana prohibition in this country has been detrimental - but it's been absolutely catastrophic to our southern neighbors," said Dan Riffle, an analyst and lobbying for the Marijuana Policy Project, a Washington, D.C.-based advocacy group that largely financed the two campaigns.
Mexico is one of the primary suppliers of marijuana to the U.S., while Honduras and Belize are important stops on the northward passage of cocaine from South America. Costa Rica is seeing increasing use of its territory by drug traffickers.
Luis Videgaray, head of Pena Nieto's transition team, told Radio Formula on Wednesday that the votes in the two states complicated his country's commitment to stopping the growing and smuggling of marijuana.
"Obviously we can't handle a product that is illegal in Mexico, trying to stop its transfer to the United States, when in the United States, at least in part of the United States, it now has a different status," Videgaray said.
Videgaray stopped short of threatening to curtail Mexican enforcement of marijuana laws, but his comments appeared likely to increase pressure on the Obama administration to strictly enforce U.S. federal law, which still forbids recreational pot use.
It's sad reading the commentaries that state our Latin American neighbors are crooked, want the drug money etc., and that we could "give a rip what they think". I challenge anyone to go spend a few months in Central America. The impact of our drug war, the impact of drug running for the benefit of US drug consumers is glaringly harmful to their societies. It's our Latin American neighbors who bear the burden of death squads, cartels, murder and violence that is a direct impact of our failed war on drugs. Our failed drug policies are literally destroying these places, tearing up lives and families. If we had to bear that burden here to the same extent they do there, our policies would have changed decades ago. The real problem is that we don't care about them - out of sight, out of mind, and somehow we blame them as if it's their problem, when in fact it's our war on drugs that drives prices so high that it has become a high-stake illegal trade.
If we end the war on drugs it can only help our southern neighbors.
Latin leaders don't like it. ROFL Like we give two rips what they think about how our Country is run. Good luck with that! They're just mad because their drug cartels are wetting themselves over this.
My gut feeling tells me that those countries are more worried that all that illegal drug money coming into their countries will start drying up as we start growing our own and it becomes legal. Billions have been pouring onto their countries as the result of them allowing their drug dealers to continue to ship tons and tons into the USA. Now we are turning things around and they are getting worried their free ride might be coming to an end.
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"makes waves with Latin American leaders..." Certainly not the leaders who legalized possession of pot in their countries. These guys don't fool me for a minute. There all butt hurt about the loss of revenue. If Colorado can grow their own, they won't be buying from south of the border anymore. The only upside for these "leaders" is a consumer in WA can't legally grow it.
Once marijuana becomes legal and is regulated by this country it won't be as profitable for the smugglers to bring it north. Once the market is saturated up here it will cut deeply into what the cartels now make and so it would stand to reason it won't be as worthwhile for them. As far as Mexico goes I think they need to concentrate on running their own country and keep out of politics here.
 @Jatok I agree..........only there is kinda a little problem with that, We, as a nation, took the fight to them years ago. We threatened, we cajoled, we sent money and we forced the issue for compliance in the delusional belief that if we could stop the flow of drugs we, as a nation, wouldnt have a drug problem. We did get in their politics and their people died in this fight. There are those south of the border that blame us for the drug problem in the first place, after all if we didnt have the demand for it then there would be no issue. So while I am all about them running their country and staying out of our politics...I'm not blind to the fact that we pulled them in to this fight that it appears we are abandoning.
@Susabelle Yes, this was a delusional belief years ago. Perhaps what they thought was the solution had to do with thinking at the time or politics at the time. At any rate time has proved that it didn't work. I see the legaliztion of marijuana as a step forward because once it's grown here the profit of smuggling it into this country will be far less if non exsistant. If we the people of the US were to decide we want it legal then yes, I think the Mexican government should stay out of it. This country belongs to the people, not the government.
Marijuana is a weed. It will grow like crazy in CO and WA. There will be no need to import. I seriously doubt this will impact Latin America's importing YET. However, if all states legalized marijuana, then yes, it would seriously impact import. I saw legalize all drugs, put them all in a pharmacy like brick and mortar store, and tax the crap out of them. Use the tax money to bring down the national debt. Most Americans; rich and poor, have a vice, capitalize off of it.
I agree with BusyHands, we will get to see NAFTA at work once again. When reading the article you can almost see the "shoulder' shrug. What can WE do? We work so hard to keep it out of your country and now you legalize. This should help the cocaine trade. No longer need to spend resources on smuggeling weed into the southern states.
Me thinks their worry might be the lessening of illegal money coming into their country rather than it being harder to control their illegal drug trades within them. Law's do need to be in place to track the pot from birth to burning to insure that the illegally grown product is not coming from those countries but is being legally grown in the USA.
Sorry that legalizing pot will cut into your drug sales and all the cartel kick backs.
"Obviously we can't handle a product that is illegal in Mexico, trying to stop its transfer to the United States, when in the United States, at least in part of the United States, it now has a different status," Videgaray said.
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Well, well, well. Funny how things work. Washington state wins to legalize marijuana, under the guise that it would hurt the drug smugglers, but instead, it seems like it might actually help them. All too funny. Now they dont have to smuggle it in, they can trade it as a commodity. And do it legally. Just way too funny......
 @Busyhands Or they are beneficiaries to cartel profits.....
No Foreign government should have the right to " Pressure " the US into bending to the will.
 @splcasters Just remember that when you want the US to "pressure" some other nation into bending to "our" will.
 @RTNavy Our Congress does that.... Not "we the people" it's a fact Americans have zero say in Foreign Policy!
For your listening pleasure on Veteran's Day: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fb_Jzgnrpv8&feature=related  Brothers In Arms
Today I was researching the natural sweetener, Stevia. I was surprised to find that the sugar lobby managed to get the FDA to say that it could not be labeled as a sweetener, only as a supplement, or food additive or something. They managed to inject doubts about it as whether it was any good. Sound familiar? The problem here is that obesity epidemic we are dealing with might not be as bad if stevia was promoted instead of buried. Cannabis has health benefits as well. I foresee the day in the near future when they will have a one-a-day thc pill that doesn't get you high but protects from cancer and Alzheimer's. They should have had it a long time ago.
 @Elvis Some say it can relieve pain, or relax muscle spasms, but I don't really view it as having any great health benies, really. It's more just fun to get high, just as it is fun to have a couple cocktails. Now if it lowered blood pressure or something of really measurable value, now that would be different. Just my perception anyway.
 @Scoondog Blood pressure IS lowered but rate is increased at times...That's not good but everybody is different.
http://www.420magazine.com/forums/medical-marijuana-facts-information/77066-marijuana-high-blood-pressure.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_cannabis
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What does that song say? Everybody must get stoned!! Well, idiotic people have voted this law in, so why fight it. Just an indication of how stupid people are these days. All they are worried about is ME, ME, ME. Not the repercussions to society as a whole.
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 @matnes86 Well if/when the rest of the nation follows the drug cartels won't be smuggling much pot to America considering it will be home grown.  On another note do you drink alcohol?
 @jb_22  @matnes86 Can anyone say tariff?
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As if the beautiful Costa Rican women wasn't enough.
I refuse to submit, obey and conform to the Federal Governments will. I am an American and will live free even if they try to take away my freedom from me I will die FREE! Our government is abusive, overinflated and suffocating the middle-class and poor.
 @Funky-Munky You sound like a crazy man! Try engaging people like "Does anyone have an opinion on ******?" or "How do you feel about our government in correlation with our freedom?"
Your whole spiel seems like a picket line slogan and freaks me out. Not good because i want you to win.
 @Glenn Gordon doesn't hide ) I think I am going to go out and buy a Scottish Kilt.... Ha!  :D) How does that sound? crazy right? Well the efforts of our Federal Government to suppress, oppress and silence our vote deems nothing less, nothing more! Hence my ability to remain humorous in the face of adversity! :D)
 @SilverGryphon I was thinking green instead... Ha! :D) Glad you got my humor.....
@Funky-Munky Don't forget the blue face paint!
amd, you know if you like dictatorships, you can always move to Iraq. that's about what the federal government is now guess you didn't care much for the american revolution cause dumb american "liberals" wanted freedom without a soul authority controlling them. so i say, move to iraq.
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 @Funky-Munky even better!
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 @Funky-Munky  @Davey Doodle The numbers they claim, that is.
Not a lie to us, a ruse.
 @Funky-Munky  @Davey Doodle I heard the national deficit was owed mainly to the American people.
 @Funky-Munky wait, the federal gov. has already sold out to china before the bush era, LOL, they are already there , but visiting the US.
"The four called for the Organization of American States to study the impact of the Colorado and Washington votes and said the United Nations' General Assembly should hold a special session on the prohibition of drugs by 2015 at the latest."
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I'm no politician but something tells me that this 'study' is going to be very expensive.
 @what? and for no real purpose........the impact is obvious.......These states are done fighting a drug war against a drug that should never have been classified as such in the first place.Â
@Susabelle Oh I completely understand. I'd also say that if the other nations are whining about the passage of pot use in two states, that they're probably on the better end of cartel money. The other side of that, is I am wondering how many hundreds of thousands of dollars the proposed 'study' is going to cost us, the taxpayers.
 @what? I would like to say where they can stick their study..... I will refrain this time... Ha!
I don't think legalizing marijuana is good for the youth of our country. I know there are a bunch of weed lovers reading this and will disagree....and thats fine. However, it is a drug and like alcohol, effects judgment and motor skills. I think alcohol is worse, but don't feel thats an excuse to legalize it. Of course this liberal state would be one of the first to legalize, but the Feds will squash that quickly....
 @amd_44 Marijuana just like alcohol will still be illegal for those under 21. We all know that many  teens will experiment but the risks of alcohol abuse are much worse.Â
@amd_44 It is up to the parents of said youth to instill them with the skills to live in a world awash with marijuana, alcohol and other drugs, legal and illegal. The drugs are here, always have been and always will be. The question becomes do you want organized crime to handle the purveyance of these drugs, or would you rather that job be handled by a legal, regulated marketplace.
@amd_44 Kids who want it are going to get their hands on it legal or not.
 @amd_44 I don't know what country you think you live in, but the federal government is not an authority figure. You and I are their bosses. That's how the USA works. If you want the your government to be an authority figure, you are in the wrong country. Â
 @Sovereign Live Free or Die Free........ Never let anyone take away your freedom or in this case vote!
 @Susabelle They can never take away our FREEDOM! William Wallace..... signing off!
 @Susabelle You were the only one who got my humor.... I luv it!
 @Funky-Munky  @Sovereign I see you with a painted blue face screaming "FREEDOM!!!"  hehehe
 @Sovereign  @amd_44 I'm far more afraid of the department of homeland security. I watched footage of them out and out refusing to respond to a direct order given to them by congress. I really hope it was fake.
 @amd_44 You are cracked if you think proper marijuana education could ever happen under marijuana prohibition which as it used to be was a self feeding money hole that stole many years from the lives of good people. The only way to fully equip our kids against using marijuana is the right education and the only way to get that is with a realistic view of what marijuana is and it's proper applications. You AMD_44 undersell the intellect of everyone with your assumptions.
 @Glenn Gordon doesn't hide ) Nah... this is more of the same "Reefer Madness" type logic being perpetuated from this individual! There are many like him/her in our world. Maybe he can watch the video provided... Ha!
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 @Glenn Gordon doesn't hide )  @Funky-Munky  @Glenn Gordon doesn't hide ) This was the fear MY parents were raised with, they are in their mid to late 70's now. They SUPPORT the legalization of MJ because unlike so many others, they know how to read independent reports and studies and form their own conclusions. I had a discussion with my Dad the other day and the ONLY concern he had was how the FED was going to react. Even asking if I though my mother's arthritis could be helped.........hmmm
 @Funky-Munky  @Glenn Gordon doesn't hide ) witnessed*
 @Funky-Munky  @Glenn Gordon doesn't hide ) The most logical man i have witness anywhere on earth at any time lived in a house made of tires with windows made of glass bottles. His house was cheaper and larger than most.
 @Glenn Gordon doesn't hide ) I have seen stucco type homes made from hemp.... truly amazing!
 @Funky-Munky  @Glenn Gordon doesn't hide ) Actually this was the lie they used in order to get those dollars. It's plain to see certain industries benefiting infinitely over the prohibition of Marijuana. Marijuana is one of the most viable crops for bio diesel and was introduced as the only possible source of fuel for cars when they were invented. The textile industry, mainly cotton (we all know the background and what money is behind cotton) would benefit by not having to compete with an extremely cheap, durable, renewable resource that could easily be used for clothing. Epoxies are another thing Marijuana can produce as well as food. The uses from one plant are endless. The law was a lie it was about money and not danger to ourselves. People talk as if we are losing our freedom.... it was lost back then.
 @Glenn Gordon doesn't hide ) I couldn't resist to show Americans their Federal Government and tax dollars at work.... crazy.
 @Funky-Munky  @Glenn Gordon doesn't hide ) People who watch this video need to know this is not a comedy and it is not satire, this is a legitimate anti-pot movie. Notice how this movie stands for how the reasons pot was considered dangerous. If you are against pot this IS what you stand for. If you are against pot you are for this movie and if you are for this movie which reflects the true view of pot at the time, you're a complete idiot.
 @amd_44 Well it may be true about the Federal Government attempting to squash something unstoppable, but voters took it to the ballot box and approved it. The Federal Government is an entity with absolute authority in your eyes and that's okay for you. However, it's an entity without merit in mine, and I will refuse to be controlled, manipulated and oppressed. You will never stop anyone from cultivating, distributing or smoking Marijuana that's a fact.