Will cigarette makers jump into pot market?

SPOKANE, Wash. (AP) - Will the Marlboro Man light up a joint soon?
The states of Washington and Colorado legalized possession of small amounts of marijuana in the November elections, but it is unclear if any cigarette makers plan to supply either market.
Marijuana remains illegal under federal law. President Barack Obama indicated last week that going after individual users won't be a priority, but there's no firm indication yet what action the Justice Department might take against states or businesses that participate in the nascent pot market, which has the potential to be large. For example analysts have estimated that a legal pot market could bring Washington state hundreds of millions of dollars a year in new tax revenue for schools, health care and basic government functions.
Bill Phelps, a spokesman for Philip Morris USA, maker of Marlboro, based in Richmond, Va., was vague when asked about the future intentions of the nation's largest tobacco company.
"We have a practice of not commenting or speculating on future business," Phelps said, adding "tobacco companies are in the business of manufacturing and marketing tobacco products."
Less mysterious was Bryan Hatchell, a spokesman for the second-largest cigarette maker, Reynolds American Inc., maker of Camel and Pall Mall, among many others.
"Reynolds American has no plans to produce or market marijuana products in either of those states," Hatchell said. "It's not part of our strategy."
But if major tobacco companies are not going to supply the new markets, it appears there are some ready to step in.
The Washington State Liquor Control Board is in the process of collecting applications from people who want to be certified to be able to grow pot legally. Agency spokesman Brian Smith said Tuesday that some applications so far have come from people who have long been growing marijuana when it was against state law.
"We're getting a lot of interest from people that want to be producers," Smith said. "Some say they have been growing it illegally until now."
Indoor growing operations appear to be the most productive and secure for marijuana, Smith said.
"But we could have outdoor grows in eastern Washington," he said.
Since no state had previously legalized marijuana possession, Washington must invent a production system from the ground up, Smith said. Colorado did have a licensed system for growing medical marijuana, but that was very tightly regulated and probably more stringent than Washington needs, Smith said.
"We don't need to get to the level of oversight Colorado has in medical marijuana," he said.
Washington's new law decriminalizes possession of up to an ounce of pot for people over 21. But selling marijuana remains illegal for now. The initiative gave the state a year to come up with a system of state-licensed growers, processors and retail stores, with the marijuana taxed 25 percent at each stage.
In Colorado, a 24-member task force began work on pot regulations this week. The state's Department of Revenue must adopt the regulations by July, with sales possible by year's end.
The states of Washington and Colorado legalized possession of small amounts of marijuana in the November elections, but it is unclear if any cigarette makers plan to supply either market.
Marijuana remains illegal under federal law. President Barack Obama indicated last week that going after individual users won't be a priority, but there's no firm indication yet what action the Justice Department might take against states or businesses that participate in the nascent pot market, which has the potential to be large. For example analysts have estimated that a legal pot market could bring Washington state hundreds of millions of dollars a year in new tax revenue for schools, health care and basic government functions.
Bill Phelps, a spokesman for Philip Morris USA, maker of Marlboro, based in Richmond, Va., was vague when asked about the future intentions of the nation's largest tobacco company.
"We have a practice of not commenting or speculating on future business," Phelps said, adding "tobacco companies are in the business of manufacturing and marketing tobacco products."
Less mysterious was Bryan Hatchell, a spokesman for the second-largest cigarette maker, Reynolds American Inc., maker of Camel and Pall Mall, among many others.
"Reynolds American has no plans to produce or market marijuana products in either of those states," Hatchell said. "It's not part of our strategy."
But if major tobacco companies are not going to supply the new markets, it appears there are some ready to step in.
The Washington State Liquor Control Board is in the process of collecting applications from people who want to be certified to be able to grow pot legally. Agency spokesman Brian Smith said Tuesday that some applications so far have come from people who have long been growing marijuana when it was against state law.
"We're getting a lot of interest from people that want to be producers," Smith said. "Some say they have been growing it illegally until now."
Indoor growing operations appear to be the most productive and secure for marijuana, Smith said.
"But we could have outdoor grows in eastern Washington," he said.
Since no state had previously legalized marijuana possession, Washington must invent a production system from the ground up, Smith said. Colorado did have a licensed system for growing medical marijuana, but that was very tightly regulated and probably more stringent than Washington needs, Smith said.
"We don't need to get to the level of oversight Colorado has in medical marijuana," he said.
Washington's new law decriminalizes possession of up to an ounce of pot for people over 21. But selling marijuana remains illegal for now. The initiative gave the state a year to come up with a system of state-licensed growers, processors and retail stores, with the marijuana taxed 25 percent at each stage.
In Colorado, a 24-member task force began work on pot regulations this week. The state's Department of Revenue must adopt the regulations by July, with sales possible by year's end.
like others have said - i'd like the big tobacco companies to staty far away from this plant. they will only ruin it.
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the real joke of this legalization is the permits. why make it so complicated? sure, regulate the sale, but $1000+ for a permit to grow? annually? give me a break. its a plant that grows from seed like a tomato or kale, etc.
 @SwampThing It was a terrible initiative but the majority wanted to help keep innocent people out of jail. Hopefully it will at least do that. Should have just been an initiative to remove cannabis from every law book in the state.
Once they get past the federal issues, there will be big money in it and they'll take the market over.Their lobbying will make it happen and all of these ma and pa dispensaries who were celebrating the victory will be history. You thought it would happen some other way? Really?
If they are going to inject it full of garbage like they did with tobacco, stuff to make it more addictive, I hope they stay away. Otherwise, if done ORGANICALLY, it might bring the price down.
Tobacco companies should be absolutely prohibited from entering this market. And individuals should be allowed to grow up to some number of plants for personal use, so as to bypass the profiteers entirely. If this absolutely MUST be taxed, then levy a small annual fee for a permit - but the truth is the savings on incarceration and judicial costs alone will make this law pay for itself!
That would be disgusting! Can you imagine how many chemicals they will add to it? I imagine people will start getting ill if they continue to smoke their product and eventually people are gonna blame the marajuana is killing them. Then their're gonna go back to make it illegal.
 @Libra509 Yep, and given that they DELIBERATELY enhanced the nicotine content of cigarettes to maximize the addictive effects, how could we trust them not to add something the like to cannabis? GMO cannabis that produces nicotine as well as THC? They WOULD try!
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"Reynolds American has no plans to produce or market marijuana products in either of those states," Hatchell said. "It's not part of our strategy." Â
Well, the USPS failed to anticipate the impact of email and paperless billing. Big Box stores failed to capitalize on e-commerce until their market started failing and Amazon started crushing them. Eastman-Kodak invented the first digital camera back in the late 70s, but declined to market it since they wanted to retain their Kodachrome film business. And then lets take a look at both Blockbuster and Hollywood Video; neither are around anymore and have closed their stores since Netflix and Amazon Prime streaming has taken over and DVD media is dead.
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Companies that do not capitalize on new products or technology are the ones that fail.
I'm still waiting on the legalization of growing hemp.
Not POT, but hemp.
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 @bobalouie Good luck. The textile companies and their lobby won't let that happen
this is such a non-story. Why do they keep beating it into the ground?
@chandler cuz they're stoned.
You know what would be funny.... if the cig companies did go into the pot market, but still required pre-employment drug screening (including pot) before hire.
They won't bother with it till the feds legalize it. But a really smart person could certainly open a blunt manufacturing company here and probably do quite well manufacturing smokes already rolled and packaged and in multiple strains. Its wide open right now for any entrepreneurs.
 @Blindman For those lucky enough to get a provided license from the state... tick, tock.. ZZZZzzz.....Â
So what is the news? That you called a couple of tobacco companies and they didn't give you anything? Did you commit to write the article before calling them?
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The tobacco empire is based in a drug that needs scale production, is highly addictive, and produces almost no pleasant effects (calming the withdrawal produced by its own addiction doesn't count!). On top of that, with billions invested in marketing, they put ideas in people's heads like "smoke this brand and you'll become a winner". Will anybody care about the brand of a pot joint as long as it makes you high?
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Marijuana is so different that the tobacco companies have almost no know-how or infrastructure suitable for them to sell pot.Â
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I sure am glad I am medical and can grow my own.I would not want anything from big tobacco company's thats for sure.I'm still trying to quit smoking the nasty things.
FYI: Marlboro has had a patten on the first pack of joints to be sold legally in the US for the last 4 YEARS! Just waiting to get the go-ahead on distribution. This has been a process in-the-making for awhile now.
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I can be DAMN SURE that I'll never EVER smoke anything that Marlboro is selling us (or any other Cigarette Corporatation). After Marlboro sells it's first pack... 5 years later, people start dying from marajuana joints sold int he US. #MARK MY WORDS!
 @Mr.Truth ...what's the patent number if you have insider info? Big tobacco is subsidized by the feds, doing something illegal like growing pot--illegal on the federal level--is a surefire way to lose their subsidies.
 @Mr.Truth you are probably right they would find a way to make it addictive by adding chemicals to it.
Of course it could be grown in Eastern WA. In fact, there was quite the news coverage a few years ago concerning the purchase of old vinyards and orchards in E WA by Mexicans (who came here just to buy the land)Â who were converting the vinyards into pot farms. Many were busted, but the farms could only be found by helicopter. Sounds like those guys are already set up for this not-so-new industry. I think it will be a local supply-demand thing, and the price of legal pot will never be able to compete with underground pot. Kind of like booze. The bottle of rum I paid $25 for yesterday, cost me $15 last year. Tax, tax, tax. And it will be the same for pot...a year from now!
@johnbe As soon as it's legal everything changes. Cartels have very high operation costs, imagine a corporation where all employees are thugs! Also, they need their own army, bribe politicians, etc. When the crop is legalized, someone can produce it without those costs (the government provides police to protect them, they can hire honest people, etc.). That makes the cartels out of business immediately.Â
This is right out of the Showtime's "Weeds"! But really, why not? If we are trending to to legalize marijuana, why not legitimize with with mass production, marketing and oversight?
Of course they should. And they could set up shop right here in WA.
Of course they will. All drug dealers will be involved, not just the tobacco industry.
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No real difference between the two drugs. Both are addicting and escapist if used excessively.
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Both are strong spiritual agents if used occasionally with the right intent of not escaping the hard psychic work of life... though almost nobody I know uses them that way.
@albion Drug dealers have an expensive operating structure (i.e. their own army)Â that makes them unable to compete with legal products. Do you see criminal organizations producing wine? corn? milk? Legalization is a big bow to organized crime.
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Regarding tobacco and marijuana being the same, They are so different in so many levels!. If they were the same, companies would have be profiting from marijuana for decades. There is no way to profit from a plant that you can grow and process so easily. There are so many other differences, people smoke pot for different reasons, but usually not to show off, so branding has little value. Regarding how people use pot, well, it varies so much with each person, but the smokers I know are very successful people that use it quite wisely.
Drive hammered, get jailed. Drive potted, get jailed. But, for the less than terminally stupid, tax it ... tax it ... tax it. And take away the profit opportunities from the real criminals. (H**l, they may even go straight.)
 @Ben Ezzell Yes, because it isn't like a common houseplant that anyone can grow or exploit for ill gotten gains right? (jeepers) Get a clue.
whatever.... It's apparent many will try to monopolize a natural medicine/ recreational drug.... Or continue stalling, pass more BS laws and never get around to supplying legal marijuana for sale... Yep, it's a cluster flub...
Get the tax dollars from it to me I don't care what users do in their own homes. and same rules should apply for DUI of this. If people want to try and say it does not affect driving do a study or provide tests made already that shows it impairs just like or similar to alcohol! Just keep it away from public spaces... I think pot smells like cow #$%^ and I hate it and never touch the stuff. I approved the legalization on grounds that people in jail for procession of this 'only in itself harmless plant' as long as they do not harm anyone but themselves should not be there...and what people want to do to their own bodies is their business as long as they involve no one else but themselves....
Notice how quickly the Washington State Liquor CONTROL Board has jumped in to take CONTROL of marijuana now that the board has no liquor to control
 Will cigarette makers jump into pot market? Will the Marlboro Man light up a joint soon? You betcha!!!
I wouldn't buy anything "created" by the tobacco industry. We've all seen all the deadly additives they have added to the tobacco leaf. No thank you!
 @Shelly I agree 100%. Keep out pot clean folks!!!!!
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Maybe we need another initiative to allow people to grow their own.
 @jd94b 100% agreed... No Monopolies for hemp or marijuana.......
@Funky-Munky @jd94b don't worry too much. Growing it will be legal soon, and nobody will construct an empire over a crop that is so easy to grow and process.
 @Damian Probably true.... but... nonetheless it's a viable crop for those willing to deal with it that should've never been banned. It received a negative cloud of attention because of her sister marijuana.. Ha!
They have enough money to buy the fed's attention away from them.