Microsoft's 2nd quarter earnings dip despite Windows 8 lift

SAN FRANCISCO (AP) - Microsoft's latest quarterly earnings slipped, even as the world's largest software maker showed modest progress adjusting to a shift away from the personal computers that have been its financial foundation for decades.
The results announced Thursday are the first to include Windows 8. The program is a dramatic overhaul of the Microsoft Corp. operating system that powers most PCs. Windows 8 came out Oct. 26 with slightly more than two months left in Microsoft's fiscal second quarter.
Microsoft is counting on Windows 8 to help the company extend its franchise into tablet computers while still reaping revenue from a new breed of PCs. The redesigned software displays applications in a mosaic of interactive tiles instead of a staid menu. It can be controlled by touching on a display screen, as well as the traditional method of using a keyboard and a mouse.
Although sales of Windows 8 haven't been as impressive as investors hoped, revenue in Microsoft's Windows division climbed 24 percent from the previous year. That includes sales that had to be deferred from earlier quarters because the purchases were made before Windows 8's release.
When Windows 8 finally hit the market, Microsoft also unveiled its own tablet computer, Surface, as a showcase for the operating system. Microsoft didn't disclose Thursday how many Surface devices were sold in the October-December period.
"I don't think they want to provide that because it won't be impressive," technology analyst Patrick Moorhead said.
Analysts have estimated Microsoft sold 750,000 to 1 million of the Surface units during the quarter, far below the nearly 23 million iPads that Apple said it shipped during the same period.
Microsoft booked its Surface sales in the Window division, accounting for some of the gains from the previous year. The Redmond, Wash., company is trying to get the Surface into more hands by releasing the device in 14 more countries and coming out with a more sophisticated version that can handle all Microsoft programs. The new model, called Surface Pro, will debut Feb. 9. The one already out runs a streamlined version of Windows 8 called RT.
BGC Financial analyst Colin Gillis said he still has faith in Microsoft, saying the company "has multiple revenue streams that are still very nice businesses."
"I kind of like the Windows segment," he said, adding that the 24 percent growth was "a little stronger than expected."
But another Microsoft division that includes another big moneymaker - the company's Office suite of software - didn't fare as well. Revenue in the Office division declined 10 percent, a shortfall that may have spooked some investors. Analyst Josh Olson of Edward Jones believes many of Microsoft's corporate customers may have held off on buying Office because a new version of that program is scheduled to come out early this year.
Microsoft earned $6.4 billion, or 76 cents per share, during the final three months of the year. That was down 4 percent from $6.6 billion, or 78 cents per share, a year earlier.
The company's total revenue rose 3 percent from last year to $21.5 billion.
The earnings were a penny above the average estimate of analysts surveyed by FactSet, while the total revenue fell below analysts' projections by about $100 million.
Microsoft's stock shed 43 cents, or 1.6 percent, to $27.20 in Thursday's extended trading, after the release of results. The stock has remained stuck below its price before Windows 8 and Surface came out, signaling that investors aren't pleased with the products' performance so far.
"This is going to be a 'show-me' year for Microsoft, and there was nothing to really shout about in this quarter," Olson said. "So what we are seeing is sort of a shrug from investors."
Besides debuting Windows and Surface during the most recent quarter, Microsoft also released a new version of its operating phone for smartphones.
Moorhead called the Surface and the new software line-up the "keys to Microsoft's future."
If Microsoft's revamped software for tablets and smartphones catches on, it would help the company overcome a downturn in PC sales, which has reduced licensing revenue during the past year. Worldwide PC shipments fell 3.5 percent last year, marking the industry's first annual decline since 2001, according to the research firm Gartner Inc.
Despite Microsoft's high hopes and an elaborate marketing campaign, Windows 8 appears to have gotten off to a tepid start. Technology reviews have panned the software as too confusing and cumbersome to navigate, and none of the hundreds of devices running on Windows 8 emerged as a breakout hit during the holiday season.
A big chunk of Microsoft's Windows revenue in the holiday-season quarter came from sales that were made before the new operating system's release. Excluding revenue that had been deferred from previous quarter, Windows revenue increased 11 percent from the same period in 2011.
The Surface also hasn't been able to mount a significant challenge to Apple Inc.'s trend-setting iPad, Amazon.com Inc.'s Kindle Fire, Samsung Electronics Co.'s Galaxy or Google Inc.'s Nexus devices.
Reiterating information released earlier this month, Microsoft said it has licensed more than 60 million copies of Windows 8. That puts the redesigned system on the same early sales trajectory as its predecessor, Windows 7, after it came out in 2009. It's unclear how many of the devices that have licensed Windows 8 are still sitting on store shelves.
Gillis said Windows 8 is Microsoft's attempt to solve a disruption in the market that's taking place because of tablets.
"It's too early to declare it a success or a failure," he said.
"The sentiment on the PC market is just too negative," Gillis added, referring to the death knells that have been ringing through much of the technology industry during the past year. "Yes, there are disruptions going on but we still sell close to a million PCs a day."
The results announced Thursday are the first to include Windows 8. The program is a dramatic overhaul of the Microsoft Corp. operating system that powers most PCs. Windows 8 came out Oct. 26 with slightly more than two months left in Microsoft's fiscal second quarter.
Microsoft is counting on Windows 8 to help the company extend its franchise into tablet computers while still reaping revenue from a new breed of PCs. The redesigned software displays applications in a mosaic of interactive tiles instead of a staid menu. It can be controlled by touching on a display screen, as well as the traditional method of using a keyboard and a mouse.
Although sales of Windows 8 haven't been as impressive as investors hoped, revenue in Microsoft's Windows division climbed 24 percent from the previous year. That includes sales that had to be deferred from earlier quarters because the purchases were made before Windows 8's release.
When Windows 8 finally hit the market, Microsoft also unveiled its own tablet computer, Surface, as a showcase for the operating system. Microsoft didn't disclose Thursday how many Surface devices were sold in the October-December period.
"I don't think they want to provide that because it won't be impressive," technology analyst Patrick Moorhead said.
Analysts have estimated Microsoft sold 750,000 to 1 million of the Surface units during the quarter, far below the nearly 23 million iPads that Apple said it shipped during the same period.
Microsoft booked its Surface sales in the Window division, accounting for some of the gains from the previous year. The Redmond, Wash., company is trying to get the Surface into more hands by releasing the device in 14 more countries and coming out with a more sophisticated version that can handle all Microsoft programs. The new model, called Surface Pro, will debut Feb. 9. The one already out runs a streamlined version of Windows 8 called RT.
BGC Financial analyst Colin Gillis said he still has faith in Microsoft, saying the company "has multiple revenue streams that are still very nice businesses."
"I kind of like the Windows segment," he said, adding that the 24 percent growth was "a little stronger than expected."
But another Microsoft division that includes another big moneymaker - the company's Office suite of software - didn't fare as well. Revenue in the Office division declined 10 percent, a shortfall that may have spooked some investors. Analyst Josh Olson of Edward Jones believes many of Microsoft's corporate customers may have held off on buying Office because a new version of that program is scheduled to come out early this year.
Microsoft earned $6.4 billion, or 76 cents per share, during the final three months of the year. That was down 4 percent from $6.6 billion, or 78 cents per share, a year earlier.
The company's total revenue rose 3 percent from last year to $21.5 billion.
The earnings were a penny above the average estimate of analysts surveyed by FactSet, while the total revenue fell below analysts' projections by about $100 million.
Microsoft's stock shed 43 cents, or 1.6 percent, to $27.20 in Thursday's extended trading, after the release of results. The stock has remained stuck below its price before Windows 8 and Surface came out, signaling that investors aren't pleased with the products' performance so far.
"This is going to be a 'show-me' year for Microsoft, and there was nothing to really shout about in this quarter," Olson said. "So what we are seeing is sort of a shrug from investors."
Besides debuting Windows and Surface during the most recent quarter, Microsoft also released a new version of its operating phone for smartphones.
Moorhead called the Surface and the new software line-up the "keys to Microsoft's future."
If Microsoft's revamped software for tablets and smartphones catches on, it would help the company overcome a downturn in PC sales, which has reduced licensing revenue during the past year. Worldwide PC shipments fell 3.5 percent last year, marking the industry's first annual decline since 2001, according to the research firm Gartner Inc.
Despite Microsoft's high hopes and an elaborate marketing campaign, Windows 8 appears to have gotten off to a tepid start. Technology reviews have panned the software as too confusing and cumbersome to navigate, and none of the hundreds of devices running on Windows 8 emerged as a breakout hit during the holiday season.
A big chunk of Microsoft's Windows revenue in the holiday-season quarter came from sales that were made before the new operating system's release. Excluding revenue that had been deferred from previous quarter, Windows revenue increased 11 percent from the same period in 2011.
The Surface also hasn't been able to mount a significant challenge to Apple Inc.'s trend-setting iPad, Amazon.com Inc.'s Kindle Fire, Samsung Electronics Co.'s Galaxy or Google Inc.'s Nexus devices.
Reiterating information released earlier this month, Microsoft said it has licensed more than 60 million copies of Windows 8. That puts the redesigned system on the same early sales trajectory as its predecessor, Windows 7, after it came out in 2009. It's unclear how many of the devices that have licensed Windows 8 are still sitting on store shelves.
Gillis said Windows 8 is Microsoft's attempt to solve a disruption in the market that's taking place because of tablets.
"It's too early to declare it a success or a failure," he said.
"The sentiment on the PC market is just too negative," Gillis added, referring to the death knells that have been ringing through much of the technology industry during the past year. "Yes, there are disruptions going on but we still sell close to a million PCs a day."
For me, the problem with Windows 8 starts and ends with the new Start menu; it used to be called "Metro" (I don't know what it's called now).
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Metro is itself another computing environment, meant to bridge the gap between tablet devices and traditional PCs. Metro can launch traditional PC programs--doing so hands you off to the desktop environment we're all used to--or it can be used to run new generation, tablet-style apps.Â
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On a PC that does not have a touchscreen, I think Metro feels clumsy and results in a very schizophrenic computing experience. I find it to be an attractive but inefficient way to work.
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I have  tried Windows 8 on a touch screen PC. Metro made a ton of sense there and was even fun to use.
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Fortunately for people who feel as I do there's Stardock Start 8, a 3rd party Start menu that looks exactly like the one in Windows 7. It transformed Windows 8 into something I actually like. I would rather that Microsoft let me decide whether to use Metro or not, but at least I was able to make my choice through the Windows ecosystem, and at 5 bucks it was not an expensive choice.
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oh my lord how long will it take everyone to understand windows 8 is NOTÂ a MAJOR OVERHAUL...they added a start screen and apps and you click one thing to get to your normal windows 7 desktop!
I have had windows 8 since the consumer preview came out and I think its better than windows 7 especially if you have a touch screen...I have it on my laptop, my tablet, and my desktop and love it on each and every one...people are just so darn narrow minded.
I think windows 8 is a major step back. Gone is the intuition to find things. What you have is a cumbersome way of navigating to the apps that you use and need. Why did they take away the things that worked well?  I think programmers are into changing things just for change sake, and it doesnt matter if it makes sense. What is the logic here?
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I just bought a new computer last week with 8 on it. i took it back 2 days later and scrounged online for a new 7 machine. I sure hope that one last long enough for 8 to be improved upon because IT SUCKS CRAP!
 @jeff It works fine if you would take the time and learn how to use it.  Some people just don't have the patience to learn new things.
@cyclops @jeff Once you learn about a half-dozen key things, the rest of it is easy to grasp. I have found that there are so many keyboard shortcuts that I can actually get around much faster than I can in Windows 7.
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I wouldn't necessarily say that Windows 8 is better than any other version of Windows but it is nowhere near as bad as people are saying in many forums.
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If you go into it with a negative attitude, how can you expect to learn it? In the field of IT, if your company decides to adopt it, you will be forced to learn it regardless of your stance or you will be invited to find another job.
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Older operating systems do not take advantage of today's hardware. If you're still on XP, you really don't know what you are missing in improved performance and new features that don't exist in the older operating systems.
I've been using Windows since 3.1 and I DON'T want to relearn it. If I want to learn something new, I'm going to get a Mac next time (that would be the first time I've ever even contemplated it). Office "RIBBON" is a SLAP in the face to power users. Garbage. Removing QuickLaunch (although it's recoverable in W7), forcing Libraries, etc... are the things that upset me. W7/8 is trying to appeal to noobs, but they are really starting to alienate power users.
 @cyclops  @jeff I download and use different versions of Linux constantly for fun. I teach people how to use software all the time...for over 15 years. I hacked freaken Windows CE and Pocket PC devices for fun. I had such a splitting headache after 2 hours with Windows 8 I couldn't take it any more. PC sales will probably REALLY suffer when all of the available Windows 7 models sell out.
Some of us still need PC's for this thing called "productivity" not a Playskool looking tablet for content "consumption". Speaking of Playskool, the Office 2013 icons look like children's blocks. The whole look makes me nauseated. I would rather look at WIndows 3.1 all day than WIndows 8.
Yeah I was reading about this on my Windows 8 phone while listening to music on my Zune.Â
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windows 8 stinks