Authorities: Teen shot in head at Atlanta middle school

Great question.  And I had previously believed this to be the case.

 

But I"ve seen documentaries where there were zombies who clearly lacked lungs...you could see clean through their ribcage.  So the zombie must have some alternative means of pushing air over their vocal chords because many of them lack lungs altogether.

 @dg54321  @NBA_Is_Useless thats a very good question, since air has to pass over the vocal cords to create sound, they must breath. That doesn't mean it is necessary for them to survive, but the lungs (if surviving) would still function.

 @nitroxman: 

Nobpdy asked for a "twitter sized post" - they (and I) asked for PARAGRAPHS.  When you post so much information as one long continuous block of information, people are NOT going to read it all.  If you want to make your points, make them in such a way that people are willing to read from start to finish.

 @nitroxman: 

Paragraphs are our friends...

 @Smokin Bear  @lakeview First of all, what does the NRA have to do with this?  

 

What laws did the NRA lobby to prevent from being enforced?  I would like some specifics.  The NRA is a strong supporter of enforcing existing laws that punish and put in jail for a long time people who commit crimes using firearms.  They do not think dangerously mentally ill people should be able to purchase firearms.  They do not think infringing on the rights of law abiding citizens will solve the crime problem.  That is not propaganda, that is fact.

 

The problem isn't "gun" violence, it is violent criminals regardless of the weapon they choose to harm, be it a firearm, a hammer, a knife, fists, a car, or a truck full of fertilizer.  

 @Nitroxman  @lakeview All philosophy aside, the NRA F^cked up when they lobbied to prevent enforcement of gun laws already on the books then blame congress when that  enforcement is not happening.  

 

Wayne LaPierre is not a good representative of gun ownership - he's a salesman.  

 

I want to see responsible gun owners stop parroting from the NRA propaganda machine and start putting pressure on the NRA to work with and support law enforcement toward putting an end to gun violence.  

 

Teenagers should not have access to guns. Period. 

 @tufa23   I personally feel the correct question should be ,,, Why does a 14 year old need to shoot at other 14 year old,s? Its SO easy to blame the guns or the legal owners lack of security. You don't know if he got it from his Dad or if it was stolen. It is against the LAW to sell a pistol to anyone under the age of 21. That is exactly why more laws are futile.

 @Nitroxman  @lakeview "If it's not in 160 words or less I don't have the time for it!" - ADD riddled public of 2013

 

Personally I never understoof Twitter, or any of the new services that all focus on short, meaningless posts.  Now with Vine you can post short, meaningless videos as well.  What is the point? 

 @lakeview  @Nitroxman tl:dr - Werther "copy cat" effect causes more shootings.

@Tattooed_Angel I thought I put in paragraphs but the spacing went away when I posted it

@lakeview I posted both articles as I usually get the response "I am not clicking the link" when I post supporting sources. So here is the two article links. Kind of sad commentary that people are unwilling to look at facts presented because it isn't in a twitter sized post. http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18563_162-57559352/officials-worry-about-copy-cat-shootings-in-wake-of-newtown-school-massacre/ http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-human-beast/201207/copycat-killings

@Nitroxman Dude, use PARAGRAPHS. No one wants to read your mumbo jumbo like that.

 @Nitroxman  @lakeview Insert classic "China called and wants their wall back" here.

 @Nitroxman  @lakeview  You're crazy if you think I'm going to read that brick of text. 

@lakeview Apparently a former assistant director of the FBI needs to get real too? You need to stop hating the NRA and do a little fact checking before spouting off. Oh yeah, and an article in Phychology Today is another NRA nutjob too? There is plenty of sources that say the same thing. The knee jerk reaction to hate on the NRA is pathetic http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18563_162-57559352/officials-worry-about-copy-cat-shootings-in-wake-of-newtown-school-massacre/ "John Miller is a former assistant director of FBI. He has been talking to his law enforcement sources about Friday's shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn. (CBS News) There have been two deadly shooting this week, the other at a shopping mall in Oregon. This is the kind of thing that always puts the profilers who study the offender characteristics of these shooters on alert. They're worried about what they call the Werther Effect. It's a copy-cat mechanism and they say their studies show it's particularly powerful on adolescents. So in a case where you'll see someone commit suicide in a high school, it's not unusual to see two or three more in a cycle like that. What they believe is it's entirely possible that the Oregon incident most of us found disturbing and troubling, an individual like this might have found that challenging to not just imitate it but to go forward with this plan. They also observed that the fact he killed his mother and then went about the other crimes - CBS News believes he killed his mother at the house - shows that this was planned out from the beginning. This was a calculated crime. We tend to think of these offenders as being crazy. It doesn't mean they're not disturbed, but they are rational enough to act out these plans, even under tremendous pressure and during the chaos of their own actions." http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-human-beast/201207/copycat-killings Copycat Killings Making sense of the senseless Published on July 27, 2012 by Nigel Barber, Ph.D. in The Human Beast The Aurora Colorado rampage killing allegedly involved some acting out of the Joker role from the Batman premiere at which it occurred. Now there has been a spate of copycat incidents around the country. The most serious involved a resident of Biddeford, Maine who was found to have an arsenal of weapons when stopped by police for speeding (1). Timothy Courtois was reportedly on his way to shoot a former employer. He said he had seen the Batman movie, “The Dark Knight Rises,” and had news clippings about the Aurora killings in his possession. Other threatening incidents occurred in movie theaters in California and Arizona (1). This disturbing pattern raises many questions about the motives underlying copycat killings and what, if anything, might be done to prevent them To some extent, the phenomena appear to lie outside rational analysis and more in the realm of psychological disorders. After all, why would a sane person use the persona of a comic book character to murder innocent people that he does not even know? I write “he” because most of the rampage killers are young single men (2). And why might other copycats follow the example of the Aurora killer? Depersonalization There is a natural human inhibition against killing that can be reduced by adopting a persona. The idea is that the character provides a vehicle through which the atrocity is committed. Psychologists sometimes refer to this state as “depersonalization.” It helps account for uncharacteristically violent actions whether the context is a riot, warfare, or rampage killing. When warriors in subsistence societies painted their faces before going to war, for instance, they not only appeared frightening to their enemies but also assumed a new identity—a new persona—that facilitated homicidal violence. Just as the specific markings on a warrior’s face are unimportant in determining his level of aggression, the particular episode being imitated in a copycat killing matters little. In each case, depersonalization, or loss of own identity, is achieved. Most copycats have their private agenda in a rampage killing but seek to tie it in to other events that received a lot of publicity. In this way, they bask in the reflected publicity, so to speak. In many cases, the rampage killer wants to commit suicide but opts to take others with him. The copycat effect This copycat effect is well known since the spate of suicides following the publication of Johann Wolfgang von Goethe’s 1774 novel, "The Sorrows of Young Werther", in which the romantic protagonist kills himself. Since then, the copycat effect emerged in the clustering of many different kinds of destructive acts including suicides, murder-suicides, familicides, and rampage killings (3). The rampage killings became very familiar to Americans in the late 1990s when there were literally hundreds of violent episodes in schools involving threatened or actual use of guns (3). These events proliferated by feeding on each other until improved security kept most of the weapons out of schools. When crimes that receive a lot of attention form clusters of this sort, it suggests that the desire for media attention, and notoriety is a strong motivating factor (4). Generally speaking, journalists and social media writers are unwilling to accept that sensational coverage of mass shootings makes these crimes more common (3). Yet, it is difficult to escape the conclusion that copycat killings are partly inspired by the publicity surrounding the original. We cannot blame Goethe for all those hopeless romantics who killed themselves with a copy of The Sorrows of Young Werther lying nearby. Many would have committed suicide anyway. Linking their lives to the novel made their deaths seem more literary—more interesting—than they actually were. The real culprit here was not Goethe but those who made a point of linking the suicides with this particular book thereby glorifying suicide. By analogy, the publicity generated by spectacular acts of unmotivated aggression prompts imitators. If suicide adopted a Goethe theme, then mass killing in Aurora took on a Batman theme. In each case, the intention was to dress up an act of violence making it seem something more than it was. Unfortunately, that process of glamorizing violence can be, and is, imitated.

 @Nitroxman  @tufa23  @Getov  @Snoop  This has nothing to do with copycats.  That is NRA talking point nonsense.  Most of these kids who shoot up schools feel bullied and single out specific targets.  They are not doing it for fun or to copy cat someone else.  Get real. 

@tufa23 @Getov Mylon @Snoop Where are you getting your information as to how the firearm was obtained? Lets stop putting these shooters in the news, the copycats are often looking for the same national attention as the last nutjob got.

 @Getov Mylon  @Snoop yeah, your camp is the do nothing at all and it will bet better on its own camp.  

 

What could possibly go wrong with a 14 year old getting hold of legal gun owning Daddy's unsecured weapon?

 @Getov Mylon Seattle ,,, where I live ,,, had a recent buy back and the vast majority of the guns were junk. Don't know how that prevented the shooting that night at a nightclub downtown. As for laws ,,, they are made to be either obeyed or broken. The choice is up to the individual.