Boehner: No progress in fiscal cliff talks

WASHINGTON (AP) - House Speaker John Boehner said Friday there has been no progress in negotiations to avert a "fiscal cliff" combination of automatic tax increases and spending cuts in January and called on President Barack Obama to produce a new offer.
Four days after House Republicans offered a plan to raise tax revenues and cut spending, Boehner told reporters that the White House has failed to outline its proposal and instead has pushed the nation closer to a fiscal cliff that economists warn could plunge the country into another recession. The two men also spoke privately by phone on Wednesday. Boehner described the conversation as pleasant "but just more of the same."
"Since then, there's been no counteroffer from the White House," Boehner complained. "Instead, reports indicate that the president has adopted a deliberate strategy to slow-walk our economy right to the edge of the fiscal cliff."
Boehner singled out for criticism White House aides who have said Obama was willing to allow Bush-era tax cuts for everyone to expire on Jan. 1 and automatic, across-the-board spending cuts to kick in the next day. He called their comments "reckless talk."
Boehner repeated the long-standing Republican argument that raising tax rates would be detrimental to small businesses and "is not going to help our economy and it's not going to help those seeking work." Obama has insisted that any deal must include an increase in the tax rates for high earners.
But Boehner declined an opportunity to take a hard line on tax rates, skirting a direct question on whether he might be willing to accept some increase in the top tax rate, currently set at 35 percent.
"There are a lot of things that are possible to put the revenue that the president seeks on the table. But none of it's going to be possible if the president insists on his position - insists on 'my way or the highway,'" Boehner said when asked whether he might be able to accept a compromise top rate of 37 percent. "That's not the way to get to an agreement."
The Republican leader pointed out that he had offered on Monday to raise tax revenues by $800 billion over the next decade by ending or reducing tax breaks, particularly on the wealthy. The Republican plan would cut spending by $1.4 trillion, including by trimming annual increases in Social Security payments and raising the eligibility age for Medicare from 65 to 67.
"When is he going to take a step toward us?" Boehner asked of Obama.
At the White House, officials used Friday's mixed jobs report, with its modest growth in hiring, as an argument to embrace Obama's plans to avoid the fiscal cliff with a package of rate hikes for the rich, public works spending and refinancing help for struggling homeowners.
"Most pressing, President Obama has proposed, and the Senate has passed, an extension of middle-class income tax cuts that would prevent the typical middle-class family from facing a $2,200 tax increase at the beginning of next year," said Alan Krueger, chairman of Obama's Council of Economic Advisers.
Obama met at the White House on Friday with top House Democrat Nancy Pelosi, discussing a number of issues, including the fiscal cliff, a White House official said.
Tax cuts enacted during President George W. Bush's first term are scheduled to expire Dec. 31, automatically boosting tax rates to levels in place under President Bill Clinton. Obama wants those increases only to affect households with earnings of more than $250,000.
Obama is insisting that rates for upper income taxpayers rise and also wants permanent authority to prevent Congress from blocking increases in the nation's borrowing limit. The government is on track to hit its $16.4 trillion debt ceiling later this month, though the Treasury could extend the day of reckoning to February.
Separately, Pelosi, D-Calif., called on GOP leaders to schedule a vote on Senate-passed legislation to hike the top two tax rates for individual income exceeding $200,000 and family income over $250,000.
"Why are you not bringing this to the floor?" Pelosi said. "Is this a forever, forever protection of the wealthiest people in the country at the expense of the middle class?"
Four days after House Republicans offered a plan to raise tax revenues and cut spending, Boehner told reporters that the White House has failed to outline its proposal and instead has pushed the nation closer to a fiscal cliff that economists warn could plunge the country into another recession. The two men also spoke privately by phone on Wednesday. Boehner described the conversation as pleasant "but just more of the same."
"Since then, there's been no counteroffer from the White House," Boehner complained. "Instead, reports indicate that the president has adopted a deliberate strategy to slow-walk our economy right to the edge of the fiscal cliff."
Boehner singled out for criticism White House aides who have said Obama was willing to allow Bush-era tax cuts for everyone to expire on Jan. 1 and automatic, across-the-board spending cuts to kick in the next day. He called their comments "reckless talk."
Boehner repeated the long-standing Republican argument that raising tax rates would be detrimental to small businesses and "is not going to help our economy and it's not going to help those seeking work." Obama has insisted that any deal must include an increase in the tax rates for high earners.
But Boehner declined an opportunity to take a hard line on tax rates, skirting a direct question on whether he might be willing to accept some increase in the top tax rate, currently set at 35 percent.
"There are a lot of things that are possible to put the revenue that the president seeks on the table. But none of it's going to be possible if the president insists on his position - insists on 'my way or the highway,'" Boehner said when asked whether he might be able to accept a compromise top rate of 37 percent. "That's not the way to get to an agreement."
The Republican leader pointed out that he had offered on Monday to raise tax revenues by $800 billion over the next decade by ending or reducing tax breaks, particularly on the wealthy. The Republican plan would cut spending by $1.4 trillion, including by trimming annual increases in Social Security payments and raising the eligibility age for Medicare from 65 to 67.
"When is he going to take a step toward us?" Boehner asked of Obama.
At the White House, officials used Friday's mixed jobs report, with its modest growth in hiring, as an argument to embrace Obama's plans to avoid the fiscal cliff with a package of rate hikes for the rich, public works spending and refinancing help for struggling homeowners.
"Most pressing, President Obama has proposed, and the Senate has passed, an extension of middle-class income tax cuts that would prevent the typical middle-class family from facing a $2,200 tax increase at the beginning of next year," said Alan Krueger, chairman of Obama's Council of Economic Advisers.
Obama met at the White House on Friday with top House Democrat Nancy Pelosi, discussing a number of issues, including the fiscal cliff, a White House official said.
Tax cuts enacted during President George W. Bush's first term are scheduled to expire Dec. 31, automatically boosting tax rates to levels in place under President Bill Clinton. Obama wants those increases only to affect households with earnings of more than $250,000.
Obama is insisting that rates for upper income taxpayers rise and also wants permanent authority to prevent Congress from blocking increases in the nation's borrowing limit. The government is on track to hit its $16.4 trillion debt ceiling later this month, though the Treasury could extend the day of reckoning to February.
Separately, Pelosi, D-Calif., called on GOP leaders to schedule a vote on Senate-passed legislation to hike the top two tax rates for individual income exceeding $200,000 and family income over $250,000.
"Why are you not bringing this to the floor?" Pelosi said. "Is this a forever, forever protection of the wealthiest people in the country at the expense of the middle class?"
Republicanâs goal over the past 30 years has been a deliberate effort to grow the US debt called "Starving the beast". This process grows the debt by cutting taxes rather than reduce spending. The process continues until debt reaches a breaking-point where the government is forced to limit spending. Republicans calmer social programs like Social Security, Medicare, etc. need to be cut.  The Republicans are irresponsible and gutless. You do not believe this? When Regan had the Republican Senate and ideological Republican House and Bush had a both a Republican Senate and House, what programs did they cut? They cut nothing and increased spending at the same time. Reagan added defense spending and bailout of the corrupt S&L. Bush added the Iraq War and Medicare Part D.    Now these same Republicanâs scream the debt is too large. How stupid do they think we are? It is time your rich supporter that promoted and gave us this crisis pay up.Â
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The Republicans keep on playing politics,soon they will fall off the cliff !
Next Election,only a fool would vote them in.
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And I've been saying, "Unseat all incumbents!" for six years or more. But would anybody listen? Nope. Oh well, crash and burn. Screw it!
So go off the cliff. raise taxes; cut spending; cut out all tax dedutions and claiming of  "dependents".  Insurers must provide birth control so no one will have an excuse to have more children than they can provide for. Place a luxury tax on all imported goods.   Stick to a sin tax on alcohol, cigarettes and candy.  Limit food choices purchased with food stamps. Tax heavily businesses who sell imported goods. Put Walmart out of business? Put Americans back to work.   Lots of places to shoot holes in this comment, but you get the picture.
Amazing how much one percent of the population is so important to Republicans that this same one percent dictates tax policy to the other 99%.  But then Republicans are the party of the rich, by the for the and for the rich as they have proven several billion times over so what can one expect.  Regardless, when I was earning nearly $80,000 per year my total tax burden including income and other taxes was nearly 30%, a far higher tax burden than any of the so called one percent paid, which averages I've heard thrown around about 14%.Â
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I am also not by far towing the Democratic line of protecting all entitlements either, even though I, myself am on SS and Medicare.  But as long as the Republicans defend their one percent to driving the country into financial oblivion then I say to hell with giving up anything I am currently receiving.  They change their mind, I would change mine, the needs of the greater whole outweigh the needs of the one percent few. And I few tens of billion trimmed from defense would not hurt either. Why do we still have bases in Europe and elsewhere and why do we pay more in defense than fifteen other countries combined, all of the a non threat? Go figure.Â
 @growlerxrunner You do understand the difference between investment income and income from wages???
"People grow old... they don't grow up!" Bunch of adults acting like children. All you friggin losers should be fired! Boehner & Reid first. Obviously 'compromise' is not in their lexicon. Maddening!!!
 @d_2 Government Budgeting 101 spend everything and more and comeback next year demanding more.....
@Funky-Munky @d_2 I find it quite disturbing that these idiots want to take more taxes from US, when THEY haven't been able to pass a budget for THREE YEARS. When MY checking account is empty, I stop writing checks. Period. I don't go to my boss and strongarm him for more money while threatening to quit if he doesn't comply. These idiots are going to destroy our country. As far as I'm concerned, let this sucker crash and burn. We'll rebuild after the smoke clears and the idiots are out of the picture.
 @Wolfen I figured out their game many years ago my friend.... I carry a money clip, firearm and a Passport. I keep an account with $40.00 or less and safety deposit box. I have zero respect, trust or am I willing to support our government anymore than I have too. I suggest cutting them off completely and living off the grid the best you can. A storm is coming and many will be getting the hosing of a lifetime. In other words the bill is coming from an overinflated, abusive and out of control government. Yes, I am in full belief of the Revolutionary mindset.
How much more proof is required that our Three Branches of Oligarchy haven't accomplished squat? How many more years of inaction, raised taxes on the middle-class and poor, war(s) without end unfunded and put on credit, catastrophic storm damage costs, increased size of government with the inception of Homeland Security, WallStreet corruption, Tax loopholes for the rich, etc.???????????
 @Funky-Munky When you have fools tow the party line... sign some ignorant memo binding you (figuratively) to not raise taxes.. hand out more and more in the way of socialistic damaging remedies... a perfect recipe for failure. Gov't needs an enema in the most dramatic way.
 @d_2 I would like to flush them all down the toilet..... Worthless each of them.....
 @Wolfen  You have an excellent point....
@Funky-Munky @d_2 I wouldn't DO that to a toilet.......
Hilarious...... Many American's don't realize we have already gone over the Fiscal Cliff..... Next year is the proof in the pudding.... When poo hits the fan.... Obama is only a puppet with zero control.... Congress is and always will be the ones who sold America out!
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"A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and he carries his banners openly. But the traitor moves among those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not traitor, he speaks in the accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their garments, and he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of a city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to be feared." - Cicero, 42 B.C.
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America's economy is collapsing as she has jettisoned her strength through independence and has bound herself to a failed global economy. Our government leaders no longer adhere to a concept of obeying the spirit of the law, let alone the letter of the law. Most of them have no concept of right and wrong. No concept of what is and is not appropriate. And perhaps no conscience. These politicians have no respect for the people who elected them. No respect for the American people. No respect for their office. No respect for the Constitution of the United States. No respect for what it means to be entrusted by the people of this nation to serve at the highest capacity. Their only goal is to consolidate more money and power into the hands of the few in order to control and manipulate the many.(author unknown)
Dear Boehner if you wish progress then step aside.
@DarkRenegade Unfortunately whatâs behind him is even worse.
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It is funny how Cantor looks like he is going to shiv the Speaker...
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She wants to increase taxes on her own bracket. fine by me...
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GO HOME CONGRESS! pick this up next year around novemebr
 @wynooheeman I think Americans would be much better off without the Three Branches of Oligarchy......
"Separately, Pelosi, D-Calif., called on GOP leaders to schedule a vote on Senate-passed legislation to hike the top two tax rates for individual income exceeding $200,000 and family income over $250,000. "Why are you not bringing this to the floor?" Pelosi said. "Is this a forever, forever protection of the wealthiest people in the country at the expense of the middle class?"
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And that right there is all you need to read to understand what is going on. The Republicans are holding all of you in the 98% hostage to protect 2% of Americans. They can pass this now, and then fight about the other stuff after Christmas.
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Finally people can see that Republicans are not the party of low taxes, they are the party of low taxes for the richest of the rich.Â
 @lakeview McConnell tried to bring the President's proposal to the Senate floor and was blocked by Reid.  Too funny.
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One solution is to simply let the Dems (all republicans will vote "present" pass JUST the tax increase and fight over spending cuts and the debt ceiling limit in January.
@Getov Mylon Was it a real revenue/tax/spending bill? You do know that revenue/tax/spending bills have to start as a House (H.R.) bill do you not? Also, you do know that nothing has to be done at all for the tax âincreaseâ to take effect the first of the year do you not? ummmmâ¦â¦ Well no it does appear that you do not know that. Obviously. Well go figure. Same with the spending cuts. But it obviously appears that you didnât know that either. So letâs review. What do you know? Well it appears that you know very little to nothing. Obviously. Go figure.
@Getov Mylon ummmmâ¦â¦ So hess. What really did happen to all of your previous screen names?
@Release The Cracken By the way Getov. That is actually a pretty old âtrickâ. You need to at least try to come up with something at least a little fresher. Even though I know that is actually really difficult for the likes of you.
@Release The Cracken Yeah right. Prove that it would not have still had to have been copied and pasted into a house bill (with the H.R. nomenclature up front), voted and passed there, and then voted and passed in the Senate, and then signed off by the prez to even be Constitutional. Not that your types pay much attention to the Constitution or anything like that. I.e. again. It was just an obvious publicity stunt or prove that it wasnât. You should change the last letter in your sn from n to r. Keep trolling there db.
@Getov Mylon Again. Procedure? bwahahahaâ¦â¦ Again it would not have worked anyway. You are obviously ignorant of what will work and what is just a PR stunt. But I guess why should I be surprised by any of that. You seem to take faux snooze, limpberger, unreality, insanity, etc. etc. as gospel. Go figure. Look it up. Or are you still getting it off?
@Getov Mylon bwahaahahaâ¦â¦ Yeah that stunt. You are just as delusional and delirious as McConnell. Go figure. And you canât even figure out how successful (not) that was. bwahahaha. You are delusional and ignorant. Much like the rest of the repub, tbagginâ tbaggers, birches, neo cons and worse. Look it up. Figure it out for yourself. You are all just so desperate. And ignorant. Go figure. Look that up also.
 @OrcasThunder  @flyskiwindsurf Logic? He muffed it. Flopksi is ignorant of Congressional procedure.
 @flyskiwindsurf  @Getov One of us does seem to be ignorant of a  procedure that shortcuts the House/Tax origination clause. Since I already know what McConnell did and you are such a know-it-all, I guess I don't have to explain it. Figure it out for yourself. Hint: Amendments, Russian trade bill
 @Funky-Munky  @flyskiwindsurf Better an ego than a rampaging persecution complex like you seem to project all the time...
@Funky-Munky I wouldnât be on here posting to some of these various poster people if I had as much of an ego as you seem to think that I have. And you seem to be way too pessimistic. But I donât mind hoping for the best and planning for the worst. Although it might depend on which worst as some could be much worse than others.
@OrcasThunder They are already so confused that I am not sure that they can become any more confused. Well actually they can become even more confused as they show time after time.
 @OrcasThunder  @flyskiwindsurf I love it when you two stroke each others egos.... Worried about the scraps left for you and I? I wouldn't because Republicans, Democrats and the G.O.P already dined in the hen-house and there's nothing left but feathers.
 @flyskiwindsurf  @Getov Careful...you are using logic and facts. That's just going to confuse them.
 @flyskiwindsurf  @Getov Actually.. What Getov said is an actual possibility. So your post just makes you look like a douche bag.
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Troll ya later.
As a former Republican I agree with you. This party has gone to hell in a handbasket.
A party by the rich and for the rich.
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 @mstipton Dude, what planet do you live on?