Child hostage standoff stretches into 3rd day at Ala. bunker

MIDLAND CITY, Ala. (AP) - Speaking into a 4-inch-wide ventilation pipe, hostage negotiators tried Thursday to talk a man into releasing a kindergartener and ending a standoff in an underground bunker that stretched into its third day.
The man identified by multiple neighbors and witnesses as 65-year-old retired truck driver Jimmy Lee Dykes was accused of pulling the boy from a school bus on Tuesday and killing the driver. The pair was holed up in a small room on his property that authorities compared to tornado shelters common in the area.
James Arrington, police chief of the neighboring town of Pinckard, said the shelter was about 4 feet underground, with about 6-by-8 feet of floor space and a PVC pipe that negotiators were speaking through.
There were signs that the standoff could continue for some time: A state legislator said the shelter has electricity, food and TV. The police chief said the captor has been sleeping and told negotiators that he has spent long periods in the shelter before.
"He will have to give up sooner or later because (authorities) are not leaving," Arrington said. "It's pretty small, but he's been known to stay in there eight days."
Midland City Mayor Virgil Skipper said he has been briefed by law enforcement and visited with the boy's parents.
"He's crying for his parents," he said. "They are holding up good. They are praying and asking all of us to pray with them."
The normally quiet red clay road was teeming Thursday with more than a dozen police cars and trucks, a fire truck, a helicopter, officers from multiple agencies, media and at least one ambulance near Midland City, population 2,300.
Dykes was known around the neighborhood as a menacing figure who neighbors said once beat a dog to death with a lead pipe, threatened to shoot children for setting foot on his property and patrolled his yard at night with a flashlight and a firearm.
The chief confirmed that Dykes held anti-government views, as described by multiple neighbors: "He's against the government - starting with Obama on down."
"He doesn't like law enforcement or the government telling him what to do," he said. "He's just a loner."
Authorities say the gunman boarded a stopped school bus Tuesday afternoon and demanded two boys between 6 and 8 years old. When the driver tried to block his way, the gunman shot him several times and took a 5-year-old boy off the bus.
The bus driver, Charles Albert Poland Jr., 66, was hailed by locals as a hero who gave his life to protect the 21 students aboard the bus.
No motive has been discussed by investigators, but the police chief said the FBI had evidence suggesting it could be considered a hate crime. Federal authorities have not released any details about the standoff or the investigation. The mayor said he hasn't seen anything tying together Dykes' anti-government views and the allegations against him.
Dykes had been scheduled to appear in court Wednesday to answer charges he shot at his neighbors in a dispute last month over a speed bump. Neighbor Claudia Davis said he yelled and fired shots at her, her son and her baby grandson over damage Dykes claimed their pickup truck did to a makeshift speed bump in the dirt road. No one was hurt.
The son, James Davis Jr., believes Tuesday's shooting was connected to the court date. "I believe he thought I was going to be in court and he was going to get more charges than the menacing, which he deserved, and he had a bunch of stuff to hide and that's why he did it."
Neighbors described a number of other run-ins with Dykes in the time since he moved to this small town near the Georgia and Florida borders, in a region known for peanut farming.
A neighbor directly across the street, Brock Parrish, said Dykes usually wore overalls and glasses and his posture was hunched-over. He said Dykes usually drove a run-down "creeper" van with some of the windows covered in aluminum foil.
Parrish saw him often digging in his yard, as if he was preparing a spot to lay down a driveway or a building foundation. He lived in a small camping trailer on the site. He patrolled his lawn at night, walking from corner to corner with a flashlight and an assault rifle.
Mike and Patricia Smith, who also live across the street from Dykes and whose two children were on the bus, said their youngsters had a run-in with him about 10 months ago.
"My bulldogs got loose and went over there," Patricia Smith said. "The children went to get them. He threatened to shoot them if they came back."
Another neighbor, Ronda Wilbur, said Dykes beat her 120-pound dog with a lead pipe for coming onto his side of the dirt road. The dog died a week later.
"He said his only regret was he didn't beat him to death all the way," Wilbur said. "If a man can kill a dog, and beat it with a lead pipe and brag about it, it's nothing until it's going to be people."
Court records showed Dykes was arrested in Florida in 1995 for improper exhibition of a weapon, but the misdemeanor was dismissed. The circumstances of the arrest were not detailed in his criminal record. He was also arrested for marijuana possession in 2000.
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Associated Press writers Jay Reeves, Melissa Nelson-Gabriel, Bob Johnson in Montgomery and AP researcher Rhonda Shafner in New York contributed to this report.
The man identified by multiple neighbors and witnesses as 65-year-old retired truck driver Jimmy Lee Dykes was accused of pulling the boy from a school bus on Tuesday and killing the driver. The pair was holed up in a small room on his property that authorities compared to tornado shelters common in the area.
James Arrington, police chief of the neighboring town of Pinckard, said the shelter was about 4 feet underground, with about 6-by-8 feet of floor space and a PVC pipe that negotiators were speaking through.
There were signs that the standoff could continue for some time: A state legislator said the shelter has electricity, food and TV. The police chief said the captor has been sleeping and told negotiators that he has spent long periods in the shelter before.
"He will have to give up sooner or later because (authorities) are not leaving," Arrington said. "It's pretty small, but he's been known to stay in there eight days."
Midland City Mayor Virgil Skipper said he has been briefed by law enforcement and visited with the boy's parents.
"He's crying for his parents," he said. "They are holding up good. They are praying and asking all of us to pray with them."
The normally quiet red clay road was teeming Thursday with more than a dozen police cars and trucks, a fire truck, a helicopter, officers from multiple agencies, media and at least one ambulance near Midland City, population 2,300.
Dykes was known around the neighborhood as a menacing figure who neighbors said once beat a dog to death with a lead pipe, threatened to shoot children for setting foot on his property and patrolled his yard at night with a flashlight and a firearm.
The chief confirmed that Dykes held anti-government views, as described by multiple neighbors: "He's against the government - starting with Obama on down."
"He doesn't like law enforcement or the government telling him what to do," he said. "He's just a loner."
Authorities say the gunman boarded a stopped school bus Tuesday afternoon and demanded two boys between 6 and 8 years old. When the driver tried to block his way, the gunman shot him several times and took a 5-year-old boy off the bus.
The bus driver, Charles Albert Poland Jr., 66, was hailed by locals as a hero who gave his life to protect the 21 students aboard the bus.
No motive has been discussed by investigators, but the police chief said the FBI had evidence suggesting it could be considered a hate crime. Federal authorities have not released any details about the standoff or the investigation. The mayor said he hasn't seen anything tying together Dykes' anti-government views and the allegations against him.
Dykes had been scheduled to appear in court Wednesday to answer charges he shot at his neighbors in a dispute last month over a speed bump. Neighbor Claudia Davis said he yelled and fired shots at her, her son and her baby grandson over damage Dykes claimed their pickup truck did to a makeshift speed bump in the dirt road. No one was hurt.
The son, James Davis Jr., believes Tuesday's shooting was connected to the court date. "I believe he thought I was going to be in court and he was going to get more charges than the menacing, which he deserved, and he had a bunch of stuff to hide and that's why he did it."
Neighbors described a number of other run-ins with Dykes in the time since he moved to this small town near the Georgia and Florida borders, in a region known for peanut farming.
A neighbor directly across the street, Brock Parrish, said Dykes usually wore overalls and glasses and his posture was hunched-over. He said Dykes usually drove a run-down "creeper" van with some of the windows covered in aluminum foil.
Parrish saw him often digging in his yard, as if he was preparing a spot to lay down a driveway or a building foundation. He lived in a small camping trailer on the site. He patrolled his lawn at night, walking from corner to corner with a flashlight and an assault rifle.
Mike and Patricia Smith, who also live across the street from Dykes and whose two children were on the bus, said their youngsters had a run-in with him about 10 months ago.
"My bulldogs got loose and went over there," Patricia Smith said. "The children went to get them. He threatened to shoot them if they came back."
Another neighbor, Ronda Wilbur, said Dykes beat her 120-pound dog with a lead pipe for coming onto his side of the dirt road. The dog died a week later.
"He said his only regret was he didn't beat him to death all the way," Wilbur said. "If a man can kill a dog, and beat it with a lead pipe and brag about it, it's nothing until it's going to be people."
Court records showed Dykes was arrested in Florida in 1995 for improper exhibition of a weapon, but the misdemeanor was dismissed. The circumstances of the arrest were not detailed in his criminal record. He was also arrested for marijuana possession in 2000.
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Associated Press writers Jay Reeves, Melissa Nelson-Gabriel, Bob Johnson in Montgomery and AP researcher Rhonda Shafner in New York contributed to this report.
Sleeping gas down the pipe?
Folks I am with you but the reality is this. The cops ARE not going to take away the guns of this type of person because they have to have just cause. I know, I know he had a past behavior but so do a thousand other wackos out there. All communities have these kind of guys. Go do a background check on all the homeless, alcoholics in your city and you will find a laundry list of crazy behavior to include criminal backgrounds, sex offenders and more. The cops hate these guys because each one is on the fringe just waiting to make somebody's life miserable. This child was taken as a hostage bargaining chip to taunt the cops with. Just look at the behavior of the 70 year old who took two people in an office building several days ago.  Crazy and reeling with anger and resentment.
My God. I cannot imagine the thousand deaths that little boy's family must be living through each day. Â
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Too many insane gun crimes lately and mostly White guys - What the Hell.
Throw some good "weed" down the pipe. Maybe it will mellow him out and bring him to what little sense he may have left.
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"He was also arrested for marijuana possession in 2000."
Whatever. The entire community knew that he was mentally unstable and had guns. And they did nothing.Â
 @lakeview It is not illegal to be mentally ill, nor is it illegal to own guns, so what do you suggest they were supposed to do about him? I would hope that he was arrested after he beat the dog, but if he was, he didn't stay in jail for long. He was also due in court for threatening neighbors, so he was obviously reported for that crime. It is not  the community's fault that this guy is still free -- it is the fault of our messed up system.
@lakeview The police should have confiscated his weapons after he was arrested and charged with menacing his neighbors with a gun. If he was found innocent, they return the guns. If not, they keep them. This might not have happened and a bus driver would probably still be alive if the police would have done so.
@lakeview - so if you live somewhere and 'everybody' knows someone is mentally unstable and has guns, what are you going to do about it?
If the police would have just taken this crazed man's guns after the incident in December with his neighbors, this might not be happening! I'm all for the 2nd Amendment rights however in instances of mental illness, they forfeit those rights!
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So how would that work?
A group of people / a committee empowered by the government would monitor everyone. Then, should they witness anything that doesn't meet with their approval, or falls outside their standards, they would step in and confiscate your personal property or maybe even detain you?
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 @JeffNW  @Tattooed_Angel Hell, yes.  If it means preventing a child from being dragged off of a bus after watching the bus driver being shot to death by some loser with a gun, it's worth giving up freedoms. Â
 @JeffNW  @Tattooed_Angel Yeah, yeah -Franklin also said that "Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy."  If you took that meaning literally, well..there you are.
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 @Smokin Bear  @Tattooed_Angel Those who desire to give up freedom in order to gain security will not have, nor do they deserve, either one. -- Benjamin Franklin
@JeffNW And you only need to respond once instead of repeatedly posting the same thing.
@JeffNW Haha you're so funny! <sarcasm> I see that you deleted one of your similiar comments.
 @Tattooed_Angel I replied once to each of your comments. I see no repeated postings. Â
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@JeffNW You're overthinking it. This man is well-known among neighbors as the man who beat a dog to death, threatens children who step foot on his property, is currently facing charges for SHOOTING at neighbors who he says damaged a speed bump in front of his house (which he was arrested for and is out on bail), and is now accused of killing a bus driver and kidnapping a 5 year old boy for a hostage.
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The police should have confiscated all his guns and weapons when he was arrested for menacing his neighbors with a gun. If he was found innocent of charges, he'd get his guns back. If he was found guilty, he doesn't get them back. SIMPLE!
 @JeffNW  @Tattooed_Angel Firearms, then.  A pillow or pipe do not equate instant death.  A gun does.
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 If you see a neighbor wandering  around their property wielding a gun shouting and threatening children or has beaten a dog to death with a lead pipe, they don't have all of their marbles and should not have access to guns.
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Takes a village to live in peace - neighbors had opportunity to curb this situation before it erupted.
 @JeffNW  @Tattooed_Angel I'm sure the police would prefer dealing with a guy with a pillow or a lead pipe. His guns should have been confiscated.Â
@JeffNW It is not a knee jerk reaction to confiscate guns from someone who is currently being charged with a gun-related offense.
 @Tattooed_Angel How do you define weapons? You can kill with a pillow or a lead pipe, what would you have allowed this guy to keep? Confiscating personal property is pointless, a knee jerk reaction form those who don't want to spend the effort to actually think about the problem. Â
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I am limited to the info provided by Komo, but if this was preventable, it should have been by detaining this guy.
Just think of what the parents of that little boy must be going through. Â Prayers for them.
When was the last time anyone has ever seen a lead pipe?
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 @therunner Did Colonel Mustard have it?
 @komotriedtosilenceme  Nice handle. komo censors anyone that would know and tell the truth. Join the club.
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Besides, it was the butler.
@Jeff Valdez - a few days ago, one of my neighbors collects old junk.
Police are making progress if they were able to deliver medication but from all the reports from neighbors, they have a long road a head of them. I hope this ends well.Â
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Cases like this are why the pro-gun people keep calling for attention to the mental health issues surrounding gun violence. Obviously this guy should not have been able to legally have a gun.
@SargeMcC - I have a feeling this guy would have found a way to get a gun.
"When the driver tried to block his way, the gunman shot him several times and took a 5-year-old boy off the bus."
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The bus driver was a hero, no doubt about that.
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If he had been armed, this might have turned out very different. I can guarantee you that no gun control law would have prevented this from happening.
 @acepaul It is expressly against federal law for bus drivers to carry guns.
 @Nic Stevens You may be right, but that is irrelevant to my point. I am sure it would be against the school districts policy too. My point is that the only thing that could have saved his life and potentially the life of that little boy is a firearm in his possession. I would not condone breaking the law to do it, but a change in the law to allow it might be the way to go.
 @acepaul "If he had been armed, this might have turned out very different."
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Yep. There may have been a whole bunch of dead kids as well.
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I love how the gun finatics have this fantasy view of anyone with a gun being the expert marksmen who is going to save the day and not screw up and get more people killed or injured.Â
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 @T H I S Have not seen a lot of cases to back up your theory. On the other hand, there are plenty of examples of people whose lives and the lives of others were saved by having a firearm and being trained to use it. Tell me how all your anti-gun ideas would have saved that bus driver? Of course, if you are at all grounded in reality, you can't.
 @T H I S  @albion Precisely.  Good point.  In a moment of panic a lot of people freeze. Â
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No one can say what the outcome of this situation would be - other than if the school bus door had not been opened (and no way around that one if the kids were being dropped off).
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I love how the anti-gun finatics have this fantasy view of anyone without a gun  being the hero who is going to save the day and not screw up and get more people killed or injured.Â
@T H I S what about the fantasy, that the old man, knew the bus driver was carrying, so he didn't try to stop the bus in the first place? The crazy coot, knew he was the only one with a gun.
 @albion Not likely. I would say either the driver would still have been shot and you would have the same situation, or the scumbag would have been shot and the kids would ALL be safe, not to mention all the law enforcement officers that are now involved. It would be in poor taste to describe the financial advantages of that scenario.
i hope he finds his way through the criminal justice system so he is sentenced to prison and beaten to death by prison inmates, slowly.
I pray that things turn out for the best with the quck release of the 5 year old boy.
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I hope the retired maniac comes out alive....so one day he might feel the blunt end of a lead pipe...
This is what we are saying when we state that more laws won't help. This man already showed he was a danger to others and broke several laws (don't care about the MJ but otherwise). He should have had his RKBA revoked by due process. Not that it would have removed the man's ability to harm others....he obviously can make bombs and someone this deranged isn't above looking to the black market for firearms. But legally he should have never been able to own firearms again after threatening to shoot some kid just for trespassing. When the government can prosecute violators of the laws we already have, then there will be room for discussion of why they are not working. As it is you can't say that these current laws don't work because they AREN'T BEING ENFORCED.
 @dg54321 "Legally" what's stopping anyone from buying a gun at a gun show or through a private sale when no background checks are required?Â
@dg54321 - I agree but I do know personally of a neighbor who threatened to kill anybody who stepped on his property - the walk out in front of his house - not inside and nobody did anything about it after the neighbors reported it to the police. Police came out even when he threatened people who were out in the street - nothing was done. thank goodness the creep died of cancer before he went over the edge, I guess, but still. This was in WA state, so I'm not up to date on the laws, but somehow it would seem there should be something on the books and maybe there is. But like you said, no enforcment.
And why was this maniac out walking around after shooting at people (children, no less) and beating animals to death with a pipe?? Why was he not institutionalized? I cannot imagine what that child's family is going through!
Sounds like there were a few signs that this guy was a walking time bomb. Always makes me wonder in situations like this, if this information was made public before the person snapped, or just comes out after the media digs?
More Special People with guns, lovely. the more I hear the less likely I am to ever pick up a gun.
 @SimplyJD It isn't the gun. It is the person. This guy is a nut job. And obviously he doesn't need a gun to inflict damage. Hence the lead pipe. Are you going to never pick up a lead pipe either?
@k_did @SimplyJD  Are there still lead pipes out there? At least he isn't hurting the kid.. beating the little guy that is.. Of course scaring the hell out of him like he is doing isn't the best, however, at the childs age, the 'damage done"  should be easily overcome with time..
With being due in court for menacing with a gun, his rights were most likely going to be curtailed until he got psychiatric help/evaluation. Obviously, this knowledge is why he is doing what he is doing.. it still doesn't make to much sense.. it is only going to end badly for him.
Instead of giving him a summons, they should have just arrested him and put him in a cell due to his behaviour is clearly apparent that he is a danger to others.
 @SimplyJD Feeling a little special?
 @aintno1special  @SimplyJD This is the cognitive dissonance you see in anti's. Seeing something like this elicits a response of "This makes me even more certain I never want to have a gun", rather than realizing that crazy people are everywhere, and they are already armed. The best defense against a crazy person with a gun, is a sane person with a gun. It's just the truth. Crazy people like this don't care that you are passive and disarmed. They will kill you just the same because they don't think like normal, reasonable people. That said, if you do not want to own a gun, that's great. Nobody should ever force you. It's your right to be a victim if you want to be.
 @Sheila Lechner BTW just a little tid bit for you to think about...Did you hear how the school shooting in ATL ended yesterday? No one knows how it may have gone, but it ended with an armed security guard taking down the armed student.
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I hate to think our world has come to this point, but I do think that there is some merit to having someone at the schools protecting our children.
 @Elaine2  @northwestsurfer Who's saying the guy obtained his guns illegally when you don't need a background check for a gun show or a private sale?
 @dg54321  @aintno1special  @SimplyJD Ah, the pro-gun position of arming teachers, bus drivers, doctors, movie ticket concession employees, etc as the solution to a country already awash in guns. I hate to break it to you, but it's turning out that a lot of the population don't agree that the solution to a country full of guns is MORE guns.
@northwestsurfer - but how do we stop the people like this from obtaining guns illegally? Because this messed up dude isn't going to go the legal route and even then, he can build a bomb easily with stuff from Home Depot.
@northwestsurfer This man's guns should have been taken away after he shot at his neighbors in December.
@dg54321 @aintno1special @SimplyJD Listen, I am a liberal and also a responsible gun owner. The problem has two distinctions; the conservatives that are adament about gun rights and the right to own and carry guns. Then there are those on the other side that want to ban guns; each side presents a problem. The issue this causes is no different than politicians picking one side of the aisle and refusing to bend; nothing is accomplished.
Banning guns is not the answer, however the current system of laws is not working; its out of control now. There has to be a rewrite of existing laws so that responsible law abiding citizens can own guns, while people like the guy in this story cannot. I wish we could stop pointing fingers and arguing about it