Clinton leaves office with slap at Benghazi critics

WASHINGTON (AP) - Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton is leaving office with a slap at critics of the Obama administration's handling of the September attack on a U.S. diplomatic mission in Libya. She told The Associated Press that critics of the administration's handling of the attack don't live in an "evidence-based world" and their refusal to "accept the facts" is unfortunate and regrettable for the political system.
In her last one-on-one interview before she steps down on Friday, Clinton told the AP that the attack in Benghazi was the low point of her time as America's top diplomat. But she suggested that the furor over the assault would not affect whether she runs for president in 2016.
Although she insisted that she has not decided what her future holds, she said she "absolutely" still plans to make a difference on issues she cares about in speeches and in a sequel to her 2003 memoir, "Living History," that will focus largely on her years as secretary of state.
Clinton spoke to the AP Thursday in her outer office on the seventh floor of the State Department less than 24 hours before she walks out for a final time as boss. She was relaxed but clearly perturbed by allegations from Republican lawmakers and commentators that the administration had intentionally misled the public about whether the attack was a protest gone awry or a terrorist attack, or intentionally withheld additional security for diplomatic personnel in Libya knowing that an attack could happen.
An independent panel she convened to look into the incident was scathing in its criticism of the State Department and singled out four officials for serious management and leadership failures. But it also determined that there was no guarantee that extra personnel could have prevented the deaths of the U.S. ambassador to Libya, Chris Stevens, and three other Americans. Clinton herself was not blamed, although she has said she accepted responsibility for the situation.
"I was so unhappy with the way that some people refused to accept the facts, refused to accept the findings of an independent Accountability Review Board, politicized everything about this terrible attack," she said. "My job is to admit that we have to make improvements and we're going to."
Clinton faced a barrage of hostile questions about Benghazi from Republican lawmakers when she testified before Congress recently in appearances that were delayed from December because of illness. Afterward, some lawmakers continued to accuse her and the administration of withholding evidence. Sen. Lindsay Graham, R-S.C., told a television interviewer that he thought Clinton was getting "away with murder."
In the interview, Clinton had little patience for such allegations.
"There are some people in politics and in the press who can't be confused by the facts," she said. "They just will not live in an evidence-based world. And that's regrettable. It's regrettable for our political system and for the people who serve our government in very dangerous, difficult circumstances."
At the same time, Clinton said she refused to be "discouraged by the fact that they are never going to accept the facts and the limitations of the facts." She added that "you have to get up every day and work to do best you can and communicate that to the vast majority of fair-minded Americans whether they're in Congress, in the press or in the public."
Because of that, she said, the partisan divide should not dissuade anyone with a cause from getting involved in politics and she hinted strongly that a divisive atmosphere would not stop her in any future endeavor. "You have to have a thick skin because (politics) is just going to be a contact sport as far as we can look into the future."
Clinton is no stranger to partisan politics. As first lady, she railed in 1998 against a "vast right-wing conspiracy" that she asserted had been attacking her husband, Bill Clinton, ever since he had become president.
But the woman who was once considered a divisive figure in American politics, yet leaves office as one of its most popular, remained coy about whether she would run for president in 2016.
"I am making no decisions, but I would never give that advice to someone that I wouldn't take myself," she said. "If you believe you can make a difference, not just in politics, in public service, in advocacy around all these important issues, then you have to be prepared to accept that you are not going to get 100 percent approval."
Asked if she still thought she could make a difference, Clinton replied, "Absolutely," but added quickly that she hadn't yet decided how.
"I have deliberately cabined it off," she said. "I am going to be secretary of state until the very last minute when I walk out the door. And then I am going to take the weekend off and then I may start thinking about all the various offers and requests and ideas that have come my way.
"I have made no decisions and I just can't until I have time to think it through and see how I am going to put it all together. I will certainly write something. I will certainly speak. Those are givens, but the rest of it I don't have in mind. And I hope through my writing and speaking to continue making a difference as well."
In her last one-on-one interview before she steps down on Friday, Clinton told the AP that the attack in Benghazi was the low point of her time as America's top diplomat. But she suggested that the furor over the assault would not affect whether she runs for president in 2016.
Although she insisted that she has not decided what her future holds, she said she "absolutely" still plans to make a difference on issues she cares about in speeches and in a sequel to her 2003 memoir, "Living History," that will focus largely on her years as secretary of state.
Clinton spoke to the AP Thursday in her outer office on the seventh floor of the State Department less than 24 hours before she walks out for a final time as boss. She was relaxed but clearly perturbed by allegations from Republican lawmakers and commentators that the administration had intentionally misled the public about whether the attack was a protest gone awry or a terrorist attack, or intentionally withheld additional security for diplomatic personnel in Libya knowing that an attack could happen.
An independent panel she convened to look into the incident was scathing in its criticism of the State Department and singled out four officials for serious management and leadership failures. But it also determined that there was no guarantee that extra personnel could have prevented the deaths of the U.S. ambassador to Libya, Chris Stevens, and three other Americans. Clinton herself was not blamed, although she has said she accepted responsibility for the situation.
"I was so unhappy with the way that some people refused to accept the facts, refused to accept the findings of an independent Accountability Review Board, politicized everything about this terrible attack," she said. "My job is to admit that we have to make improvements and we're going to."
Clinton faced a barrage of hostile questions about Benghazi from Republican lawmakers when she testified before Congress recently in appearances that were delayed from December because of illness. Afterward, some lawmakers continued to accuse her and the administration of withholding evidence. Sen. Lindsay Graham, R-S.C., told a television interviewer that he thought Clinton was getting "away with murder."
In the interview, Clinton had little patience for such allegations.
"There are some people in politics and in the press who can't be confused by the facts," she said. "They just will not live in an evidence-based world. And that's regrettable. It's regrettable for our political system and for the people who serve our government in very dangerous, difficult circumstances."
At the same time, Clinton said she refused to be "discouraged by the fact that they are never going to accept the facts and the limitations of the facts." She added that "you have to get up every day and work to do best you can and communicate that to the vast majority of fair-minded Americans whether they're in Congress, in the press or in the public."
Because of that, she said, the partisan divide should not dissuade anyone with a cause from getting involved in politics and she hinted strongly that a divisive atmosphere would not stop her in any future endeavor. "You have to have a thick skin because (politics) is just going to be a contact sport as far as we can look into the future."
Clinton is no stranger to partisan politics. As first lady, she railed in 1998 against a "vast right-wing conspiracy" that she asserted had been attacking her husband, Bill Clinton, ever since he had become president.
But the woman who was once considered a divisive figure in American politics, yet leaves office as one of its most popular, remained coy about whether she would run for president in 2016.
"I am making no decisions, but I would never give that advice to someone that I wouldn't take myself," she said. "If you believe you can make a difference, not just in politics, in public service, in advocacy around all these important issues, then you have to be prepared to accept that you are not going to get 100 percent approval."
Asked if she still thought she could make a difference, Clinton replied, "Absolutely," but added quickly that she hadn't yet decided how.
"I have deliberately cabined it off," she said. "I am going to be secretary of state until the very last minute when I walk out the door. And then I am going to take the weekend off and then I may start thinking about all the various offers and requests and ideas that have come my way.
"I have made no decisions and I just can't until I have time to think it through and see how I am going to put it all together. I will certainly write something. I will certainly speak. Those are givens, but the rest of it I don't have in mind. And I hope through my writing and speaking to continue making a difference as well."
Slap all you want lady, either way you should have been fired. Had you been military you would have been Courts Martial for dereliction of duty.
a shame she is leaving on a sour note.  when in a position such as hers, she would have been better off saying nothing and remaining a professional statesman.   posting a jab on your way out at whoever is charachter revealing. Â
I think I understand what she means by "what difference does it make?". The people that live in that region live by an anti-US ideology. Be they terrorists or regular civilians just out for an anti-US protest, what difference does it make indeed! The outcome is the same.
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And the liberal media get all wet thinking about Hillary running for president so give her free campaign air time.
@SargeMcC -- dude - it's the republicans that are giving her the free air time. The more they persecute her, the more airtime she gets, and the more extreme and irrational the attacks seem to the average American.
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If they continue these extreme and irrational attacks on her, they are nearly assuring that she will be the first woman President of this country!
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extreme and irrational attacks? She says some just don't accept the facts....have we been given any "facts"? I don't think so..
Maybe those of you who defend her might post some of the "facts" of what happened. Except of course that 4 americans died and none of the survivors have talked about what happened.
 @SargeMcC If she runs, no Republican will stop her. So you better hope she doesn't.Â
Murder, huh? What about Bush/Cheney using the 3300 plus deaths of 9/11 to start a war based on lies for pure profit for their rich corporate friends? How many died because of Republican lies, thousands and thousands of civilians along several thousand American Soldiers, plus countless thousands maimed for life all for Republican Profit. And then how about a history lesson on how Republicans like Prescott Bush, George W.'s Grandfather helped finance Hitler's rise to power in hopes of bringing the Nazi type revolution to this country. Oh, and how about Congress having to invoke the Trading With the Enemy Act to stop Republican Businessmen from trading with Nazi Germany after the war started. Our young men then were already dying for them and they kept trading. Republicans care about power and profit, that has been proven by history.
 @growlerxrunner wait a minute how did rich corporate people get rich off of the war in iraq? and we had to to go to afghanistan to get bin laden, or should we have just let 9/11 happen without any response?
 @growlerxrunner ...and I heard that the serpent in the Garden of Eden was a Bush.
 @aintno1special  @growlerxrunner We have the minutes of the meetings between Bush and Chirac when Bush tried to get France involved in the invasion of Iraq. We know now that Bush saw Iraq as the place where the Biblical forces of evil were converging. This was a religious war.Â
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Probably a million Iraqis died because of our invasion. 4,500 U.S. soldiers, God knows how many private U.S. contractors, and tens of thousands American kids came home without limbs or as vegetables.Â
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And here we are playing the Benghazi finger pointing game...
 @lakeview  @aintno1special  @growlerxrunner when are we gonna stop blaming bush or bringing up bush and hold the current administration accountable? because the current administration is whats affecting our current lives and our future more then bush's did.
 @lakeview  @growlerxrunner ..and people getting off the topic at hand.
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The FACT remains that the consulate in Benghazi sent several requests for additional security prior to the attack. The FACT remains that the State Department refused to give them additional personnel, stating they didn't have the resources. The FACT remains that Hillary was Secretary of State and ultimately responsible for the safety of American personnel at all embassies, and she failed.
 @SargeMcC My fault, I used to vote down every tax that came up. No longer do this, or I guess we could blame mismanagement of the budget or we could blame.............If you want the sevices you have to pass the taxes
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 @SargeMcC Hearing a Clinton argue about others "not accepting facts" would be funny if it weren't so disgusting. Hypocrites, all of them.Â
Where are those WMD's in Iraq again?
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 @lakeview "I did not have sexual relations..." "I don't recall..." "I am not a crook..." How far back shall we go with this rhetoric?
 @aintno1special  So 5,000 Americans dead over a lie and you're going to compare it to a blowjob?Â
 @lakeview  @aintno1special were gonna compare him lying under oath about the blowjob, which is against the law by the way.
 @lakeview No but I didn't read anything about Bush in this story, but there is always someone more than willing to come out off topic and make the "Bush's fault" comment. Really reminds me of all the "we need to ban ____" comments being made as of late.
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And as far as I know this inquiry was regarding Benghazi..not Iraq, but I may have been watching an edited version of C-span.
......But she suggested that the furor over the assault would not affect whether she runs for president in 2016." lets us not forget "what
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"refusal to "accept the facts" is unfortunate and regrettable for the political system."
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That is a classic. Little or no facts were provided "spontaneous bla bla bla" I do agree about the "regrettable for the political system"
Billery is just as bad as her husband at giving non answers. She will babble and babble on while never giving a straight answer to did she screw up or not. The press has graphically shown that there were problems with the security there a long time before they were attacked yet she or no one else did a darn thing about it. She did not have the power to stand up and say they screwed up, but rather tried to babble her way out of it even after being shown she was wrong. Just thinking of her as president give me chills to the bone.
What she fails to answer is HOW it happened in the first place. She doesn't think it makes a difference, but how is a problem supposed to be solved or kept from happening again if the origin of the problem is not discussed? I find it hard to believe that she never saw any requests for more security. Pointing fingers seems to be an easy thing to do when she is on the other end of the pointed finger, but when it's her turn to face the music, she's quick to deflect. Wish real life worked that way.
""There are some people in politics and in the press who can't be confused by the facts," she said. "They just will not live in an evidence-based world. And that's regrettable. It's regrettable for our political system and for the people who serve our government in very dangerous, difficult circumstances."" What evidence? Politicians have gotten so good at hiding any evidence just so they can make quotes like this. If there is no evidence either way then the best spin doctors win and with the help of the majority of the media being liberal the democrats have the best spin going. Even Obama got reelected!
Clintons are very skilled at avoiding responsibility...
@Windowseat - and right wingers are very skilled at phonying up things so that they can attack Clintons.
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Yeah, mistakes were made by folks regarding this consulate, however, the Relentless Republican attacks are purely political and have nothing to do with finding the truth -or- with preventing it from happening again.
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The questions from the Republicans on the committees proved that. They were out to hang Hillary and didn't care to try to get anywhere else with thier questions. They did nothing but attempt to harm her ability to run for President in 2016 - they didn't actually seek any knowledge of what happened, nor did they work to find anything that would prevent future problems like this.  They went for her throat and didn't care about anything else.
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It's a pity that the party who professes to be the only experts at protecting this country has become nothing but cheap character assassins.
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 @FormerMarineSgt  @Windowseat well so far they are the only ones that are trying to ask questions to get the truth, as you recall during here testimony ever democrat was sucking up to her and not asking her any hard questions. So somebody had to do it.
 @FormerMarineSgt Early on in the whole fiasco, Hillary's party threw her under the bus. From what I saw the attack was relentless, but they were looking for some accountability from someone.
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As far as character assassins, I don't see either party being any more skilled than the other at this "skill". But mine comes from a view from the middle as opposed to one side of the fence.
 @FormerMarineSgt  @aintno1special what about all of obama's campaign ads saying romney was responsible for the death of a steel workers wifes life over health insurance, or the ads saying that conservatives want dirty air and dirty water, or that conservatives want to leave the elderly to fend for themselves? aren't those attacks? It goes both ways, just this time the left got caught with something and now you want to bring up everyhting in the past, instead of talking about what is going on currently.
 @FormerMarineSgt Unfortunately it has become the face of politics. It has gotten so bad I refuse to turn on the television during campaign time. Neither side will admit to it, but will cry foul when it is directed at them. Recall Palin's tearing apart at the hands of the liberal media and the D party.(granted she offered a lot of help) So the attacks are bilateral.
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My wife for years, was pushing me to get involved in politics and I just asked her why would I put you, me and the kids through it? I understand the importance of getting involved, but it is just too dirty in it's current state. It has come down to who has the less negatives against them as opposed to who is the "best" person for the job.
@aintno1special -- I come from the middle myself, although there are many extremist right wingers that think they are close to the middle and claim that everyone to the left of them is an absolute far left liberal.Â
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When it comes to the Clintons, the right has reveled in character assasination and trumped up politics over country.
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They spent years and years and many millions of taxpayer money trying to get Bill for his association with Whitewater, and didn't even get him for littering. Only when he didn't spill the beans on having consensual sex did they get him on ANYTHING.
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And the right wing hate and persecution continued with Hillary as she ran for President in 2008. And it still continues today. Although nowdays it's clear that it's pure politics over country and attempts to damage her image ahead of the next presidental election as thier efforts become more and more irrational and extremist.Â
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Run Hillary Run! The sweetest revenge is beating them at their own game!
I never have been a fan of the Clintons but she is going to be the next Presisdent if she runs hands down because her resume is better than anyone elses that would run against her
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So true. At least she does have that going for her and that is more than most candidates have on their side. She really can say "been there done that".
"There are some people in politics and in the press who can't be confused by the facts,"...She hit the nail on the head. Although I know it was aimed at other side of the political fence...but in the media and politics facts really are just a speed bump to creating an interesting story out of the news.
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That said I know in this case the entire truth will never be known, and it is unfortunate that lives have been lost and, while changes are being made there is no accountability for the initial problem. The American story.
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 @Shelly ya hillary! I am gonna stick up for you even though I am directly responsible for not sending help to the embassy even though it was proven that help was requested! You really dont care do you?