Congress looks at doing away with the $1 bill

WASHINGTON (AP) - American consumers have shown about as much appetite for the $1 coin as kids do their spinach. They may not know what's best for them either. Congressional auditors say doing away with dollar bills entirely and replacing them with dollar coins could save taxpayers some $4.4 billion over the next 30 years.
Vending machine operators have long championed the use of $1 coins because they don't jam the machines, cutting down on repair costs and lost sales. But most people don't seem to like carrying them. In the past five years, the U.S. Mint has produced 2.4 billion Presidential $1 coins. Most are stored by the Federal Reserve, and production was suspended about a year ago.
The latest projection from the Government Accountability Office on the potential savings from switching to dollar coins entirely comes as lawmakers begin exploring new ways for the government to save money by changing the money itself.
The Mint is preparing a report for Congress showing how changes in the metal content of coins could save money.
The last time the government made major metallurgical changes in U.S. coins was nearly 50 years ago when Congress directed the Mint to remove silver from dimes and quarters and to reduce its content in half dollar coins. Now, Congress is looking at new changes in response to rising prices for copper and nickel.
At a House subcommittee hearing Thursday, the focus was on two approaches:
The GAO's Lorelei St. James told the House Financial Services panel it would take several years for the benefits of switching from paper bills to dollar coins to catch up with the cost of making the change. Equipment would have to be bought or overhauled and more coins would have to be produced upfront to replace bills as they are taken out of circulation.
But over the years, the savings would begin to accrue, she said, largely because a $1 coin could stay in circulation for 30 years while paper bills have to be replaced every four or five years on average.
"We continue to believe that replacing the note with a coin is likely to provide a financial benefit to the government," said St. James, who added that such a change would work only if the note was completely eliminated and the public educated about the benefits of the switch.
Even the $1 coin's most ardent supporters recognize that they haven't been popular. Philip Diehl, former director of the Mint, said there was a huge demand for the Sacagawea dollar coin when production began in 2001, but as time wore on, people stayed with what they knew best.
"We've never bitten the bullet to remove the $1 bill as every other Western economy has done," Diehl said. "If you did, it would have the same success the Canadians have had."
Beverly Lepine, chief operating officer of the Royal Canadian Mint, said her country loves its "Loonie," the nickname for the $1 coin that includes an image of a loon on the back. The switch went over so well that the country also went to a $2 coin called the "Toonie."
Rep. Bill Huizenga, R-Mich., affirmed that Canadians have embraced their dollar coins. "I don't know anyone who would go back to the $1 and $2 bills," he said.
That sentiment was not shared by some of his fellow subcommittee members when it comes to the U.S. version.
Rep. Lacy Clay, D-Mo., said men don't like carrying a bunch of coins around in their pocket or in their suits. And Rep. Carolyn Maloney, D-N.Y., said the $1 coins have proved too hard to distinguish from quarters.
"If the people don't want it and they don't want to use it," she said, "why in the world are we even talking about changing it?"
"It's really a matter of just getting used to it," said Diehl, the former Mint director.
Several lawmakers were more intrigued with the idea of using different metal combinations in producing coins.
Rep. Steve Stivers, R-Ohio, said a penny costs more than 2 cents to make and a nickel costs more than 11 cents to make. Moving to multiplated steel for coins would save the government nearly $200 million a year, he said.
The Mint's report, which is due in mid-December, will detail the results of nearly 18 months of work exploring a variety of new metal compositions and evaluating test coins for attributes as hardness, resistance to wear, availability of raw materials and costs.
Richard Peterson, the Mint's acting director, declined to give lawmakers a summary of what will be in the report, but he said "several promising alternatives" were found.
Vending machine operators have long championed the use of $1 coins because they don't jam the machines, cutting down on repair costs and lost sales. But most people don't seem to like carrying them. In the past five years, the U.S. Mint has produced 2.4 billion Presidential $1 coins. Most are stored by the Federal Reserve, and production was suspended about a year ago.
The latest projection from the Government Accountability Office on the potential savings from switching to dollar coins entirely comes as lawmakers begin exploring new ways for the government to save money by changing the money itself.
The Mint is preparing a report for Congress showing how changes in the metal content of coins could save money.
The last time the government made major metallurgical changes in U.S. coins was nearly 50 years ago when Congress directed the Mint to remove silver from dimes and quarters and to reduce its content in half dollar coins. Now, Congress is looking at new changes in response to rising prices for copper and nickel.
At a House subcommittee hearing Thursday, the focus was on two approaches:
- Moving to less expensive combinations of metals like steel, aluminum and zinc.
- Gradually taking dollar bills out the economy and replacing them with coins.
The GAO's Lorelei St. James told the House Financial Services panel it would take several years for the benefits of switching from paper bills to dollar coins to catch up with the cost of making the change. Equipment would have to be bought or overhauled and more coins would have to be produced upfront to replace bills as they are taken out of circulation.
But over the years, the savings would begin to accrue, she said, largely because a $1 coin could stay in circulation for 30 years while paper bills have to be replaced every four or five years on average.
"We continue to believe that replacing the note with a coin is likely to provide a financial benefit to the government," said St. James, who added that such a change would work only if the note was completely eliminated and the public educated about the benefits of the switch.
Even the $1 coin's most ardent supporters recognize that they haven't been popular. Philip Diehl, former director of the Mint, said there was a huge demand for the Sacagawea dollar coin when production began in 2001, but as time wore on, people stayed with what they knew best.
"We've never bitten the bullet to remove the $1 bill as every other Western economy has done," Diehl said. "If you did, it would have the same success the Canadians have had."
Beverly Lepine, chief operating officer of the Royal Canadian Mint, said her country loves its "Loonie," the nickname for the $1 coin that includes an image of a loon on the back. The switch went over so well that the country also went to a $2 coin called the "Toonie."
Rep. Bill Huizenga, R-Mich., affirmed that Canadians have embraced their dollar coins. "I don't know anyone who would go back to the $1 and $2 bills," he said.
That sentiment was not shared by some of his fellow subcommittee members when it comes to the U.S. version.
Rep. Lacy Clay, D-Mo., said men don't like carrying a bunch of coins around in their pocket or in their suits. And Rep. Carolyn Maloney, D-N.Y., said the $1 coins have proved too hard to distinguish from quarters.
"If the people don't want it and they don't want to use it," she said, "why in the world are we even talking about changing it?"
"It's really a matter of just getting used to it," said Diehl, the former Mint director.
Several lawmakers were more intrigued with the idea of using different metal combinations in producing coins.
Rep. Steve Stivers, R-Ohio, said a penny costs more than 2 cents to make and a nickel costs more than 11 cents to make. Moving to multiplated steel for coins would save the government nearly $200 million a year, he said.
The Mint's report, which is due in mid-December, will detail the results of nearly 18 months of work exploring a variety of new metal compositions and evaluating test coins for attributes as hardness, resistance to wear, availability of raw materials and costs.
Richard Peterson, the Mint's acting director, declined to give lawmakers a summary of what will be in the report, but he said "several promising alternatives" were found.
I'm all for saving money. I don't like the idea, though, unless the coins were made considerably larger than the 50-cent piece.Â
This is more about lobbyists than savings. The savings is about jobs.
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People didn't want to change to paper money from coins long ago either... but everyone got used to it. Â Just change them and force the public to use them - if we are losing tons of money by not making the change, why is it a matter of discussion? Â We need to save money wherever we can, this is another opportunity to do so. Â
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People always resist change, (no pun intended) it's just human nature.Â
 @Datsuyama Like we are using the Busan B Anthony coin? Nobody liked them either.
Besides, we wont be saving 4.4 billion dollars of federal tax dollars. We all know that Obama needs another 4.4 billion dollars to give to Abortuaries to kill American babies.
 @Nuclearian The thing is this - nobody uses the coins because they still have the paper bill available.  Was the SBA dollar coin a flop - yes - the design was poor as it was difficult to distinguish it from a quarter at times.  Change over to the dollar coin and let the public know the reserve will quit printing the bill in XX years and people will have to use the coin.  It may take a generation or so to fully transition because we are so stubborn at times but it will happen.
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Canada has adapted just fine to their 1 and 2 dollar coins, we too can adjust. Â There are always those that resist change, they are too afraid of what they are giving up instead of looking at what they will gain. Â
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As for not carrying change in their pockets... this is increasingly less of an issue given the prevalence of debit cards. Â
@Nuclearian It is just amazing how you continue to prove over and over again how much of an i**** you truly truly are. How much terminal time do they give you per day at Western anyway?
Inflation has made the small coins worthless, relative to what they were initially worth. A real overhaul would eliminate the penny, nickel, half dollar coins, and the one dollar bill. That way the dime would be the smallest coin and lowest value. If you donât like the quarter putting you on the 5 cent increments, then replace it with a 30 cent coin. And remember that we already have a two dollar bill. So we could have a two dollar coin, or not.
@Just Wondering It actually costs more to manufacture a penny than its worth...
What is the definition of insanity? Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results?
Why doesn't the government go plastic?
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Or better yet, bar code everybody. Each child, when born is issued a bar code that is tattooed on the babies forehead. A matching chip is implanted behind the right ear.
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The government becomes a clearing house (like they do with checks) for all of an individual's credits and debits.
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You want to buy something? Scan the item, scan the forehead. Out of funds? an alarm goes off and the storekeeper chases you out the door with a broom.
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Payroll is all automated, with the government automatically crediting your account with what is left over after taxes.
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You can reduce your tax rate by allowing the government to sell your buying history to greedy merchants.
I don't have a problem eliminating the dollar bill. Â One big reason the dollar coins haven't been accepted is because there was an alternative in the bill. Â If the bill is eliminated then the citizens will have no alternative but to accept the coins. Â Many other countries have done it and managed to prevent mass rioting in the streets over it.
All the dollar coins in the vaults will finally be used and their value realized.
Canada solved the problem by making the coins bigger than their quarter. The loonie and toonie had a larger diameter. That is all that needs to be done.Â
I have carried metal coins in Canada, Japan, and Europe and lived to tell the tale. You know those stylish Italian-cut suits, that are the creme-de-la-creme of fashion? Italian men carry metal coins in the trousers and never give them a second thought. I buy $1 coins whenever I can get them. For those "can't tell the difference" folks, a quarter has milled edges....a dollar coin does not. However, to make the changeover work, the Treasury must withdraw all paper one-dollar bills from circulation on a date certain.
tried that already... with Susan B Anthony dollars and the Scaagaweea dollars and they werent accepted by the public... harder to carry than dollar bills and too easily mistaken for a quarter... leave things the way they are.. spend your money on reducing the deficit instead of changing things that dont need to be fixed
Actually, in 1983 the penny went from solid to a base metal flashed with copper....so we have made changes since removing silver from coinage.
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Other than that, bring on the dollar coin, heck...bring on a $2 coin. but leave the penny...you KNOW that prices will get rounded up. its not much per instance but it adds up over time. Look at sales tax, depending on where you are, $0.086/$1...if you go with nickel increments...the tax tables get a lot more coarse...and we pay more.
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 @Woodswalker The Penny will not be eliminated for one simple reason:  Postage.  People will not stand 5 cent incremental increases in postage rates.
@NevadaBob You will just get ten 43¢ (or whatever) stamps for $4.30 (or whatever). Or even in increments of five.
They should be doing something more useful with their time!
Sacagawea, Suzan B. Anthony, now John Adams! And just how are we unsuspecting slobs supposed to know what is real and what is not? It gives me a great idea: Stamp my own out of aluminum and see if anyone notices.
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Seriously, what I hate about the coins are that they are too similar to quarters.
A much smarter idea would be to eliminate the penny altogether. Go to a 5 cent multiple like other modern countries have.Â
Why do they do this over and over? Don't they get it!
Go ahead and get rid of the dollar bill and replace them with coins. Those that do not like the coins I will be more than happy to haul them away for you. Just save them for a little while & I will come pick them up when you have a jar full.
Seriously... Ummmm... *#@&% NO! We have enough money situations right now. Congress wants to add to it. Sure it would be nice to cut down on the paper, however, let's look at it again in about say 7 years. Maybe we can have this countries finances back in order by then. however until then, why doesn't the workers in congress go get a PSYCHOLOGICAL EVALUATION DONE, cause I don't think they are right in the head.Â
 @Tonna Kalblinger 6 comments and all are f%cking stupid. Please stop and STFFU!!
Again?
Remember the Susan B. Anthony dollar?
 @OrcasThunder Not again, but for the past 12 years. :)
it may save money but we need to get this Fiscal Cliff stuff done then lets talk about the $1
I liked the Susan dollar coin. Reason? Because I didn't want to carry a lot of coins around, I put them in jars. the dollar coin had its own jar, quarters, dimes, nickels, pennies each their own. I was saving money painlessly. When I got to $100, I put it in the bank.
If it will save that much money it is really a great idea. I'm also in favor of doing away with the penny. I got really comfortable with the euro system in just a few weeks in France and Italy.
Well obviously......They carry $100 bills, and don't know the value of a dollar to the Middle Class.
OMG! What about the strippers? They rely on the $1 bills. Change it to a coin and one of them could get hurt!
 @Tattooed_Angel You always have $5.00 bills. It get a little spendy, but hey maybe you would find something more time consuming to do.
@Tonna Kalblinger You would still get change back from your $5.00 bill (just in coins -- including $1 coins. Nothing would actually cost more to you to buy. This would just FORCE the existing $1 coins and any new style $1 coin into common use as they pull the $1 bill from the market .Â
@Tattooed_Angel I am sending girls to college one dollar at a time.
 @Tattooed_Angel I was in Canada many years ago and tipped a dancing stripper (on stage) in change, about $4 or so. She picked up the money, and threw it back at me. Haha. It was $4, but I guess it's still an insult to get change.
@Stock Woodie @Tattooed_Angel Have you ever tipped a wattress a penney? Funny.
But for bad service , it's about the right amount.
@Stock Woodie I was enjoying a beer one day with a buddy at a table when a skanky stripper I didnt want to tip took the 3 quarters change from my beer purchase that was sitting on the table. I let her have it.
Reason why I disliked using the $1 coin, it was to close in size to the quarter.
@J LAKE Yeah sort of like how the paper money for $1, $2, $5, $10, $20, $50, and $100 bills are all pretty close to the same size.
@flyskiwindsurf  Yep....You gotta look and once you are forced to, I bet you get pretty good at it well before you go broke from it. I was going to say "become penniless" but that may happen to as they pull the use of the penny from the market.
I've traveled to lots of countries which use coins in similar denominations. It's no big deal. If it will really save $4.4 billion it seems like a no brainer. It's also about time to do away with the penny as well. I used to be against both of these ideas but our country has some serious financial issues which need to be resolved. The savings might be a drop in the bucket but it's not a bad place to start.
 @74Shovel It really is a no brainer. I had no problem with using up to the 2 euro coin when I traveled around France and Italy.
@quidproquo @74Shovel  You'd have to carry a lot fewer $1 coins that way.
 @74Shovel Me too, and have noticed that most currencies do not go to paper until the $5 equivalent.  They even have a $2 equivalent coin, which makes things much easier.  $4.4 billion is a lot of dough!
Won't fly... Too much weight in the pocket or purse. Even then, nice design for the coin.
Don't do it! We had to use coins when I lived in Canada. It SUCKED! Keep the dollar!
I HATE coins!  Get rid of the penny and don't even consider making us carry around dollar coins.  What a PITA!!  They're heavy and inconvenient to carry around.
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Plus what about the poor strippers - how's that going to work?!
@JusticeSeeker: Use a $2.00 bill. The one with Thomas Jefferson on it.
 @JusticeSeeker Of course the strippers are poor.  People have been tipping a whole 1$ dollar for decades.  Think about what that's worth after all of these years with inflation.
@JusticeSeeker Maybe you would prefer the dollar coins to be made out of plastic.
 @JusticeSeeker Use a credit/debit card. I NEVER carry cash unless needed, and it works fine for me. If you can't get a bank account, get a rechargeable cash card.
 @Ethan Allen  @JusticeSeeker and I never use a debit card where cash will work. I also know plenty of places that give a discount for using cash so the proprietor isn't losing the ~3% the banks rob them of.
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I don't use a credit card, and I have zero problems carrying cash. Of course, I also barter and trade too. I see no need for a money-middleman to be scraping something off the top of every transaction.
 @JusticeSeeker use the coin slot
@lazarus @JusticeSeeker That I'd like to see you try...