Could mass killing be a gun-control tipping point?

WASHINGTON (AP) - The question surfaces each time a mass murder unfolds: Will this one change the political calculus in Washington against tougher gun control?
The answer, after the Virginia Tech killings, the attempted assassination of Gabby Giffords, the Colorado movie-theater attack, the Wisconsin Sikh temple shootings, and more: No.
But now?
The massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn., the bloodiest attack against youngsters in the nation's history, stands as a possible tipping point after Washington's decade-long aversion even to talking about stricter gun laws.
So it seems in the stunned aftermath, judging from President Barack Obama's body language as much as his statement. "We have been through this too many times," said the famously composed president, this time moved to tears. "We're going to have to come together and take meaningful action to prevent more tragedies like this, regardless of the politics."
It remains to be seen whether Sandy Hook will break the usual cycle of universal shock fading into political reality. That reality is based on a combination of powerful gun lobbying and public opinion, which has shifted against tougher gun control and stayed that way. However lawmakers react this time, it's the president's call whether the issue fades again or takes its place alongside the legacy-shaping initiatives of his time, with all the peril that could mean for his party.
With the murder rate less than half what it was two decades ago, and violent crime down even more in that time, gun control has declined as a political issue.
But New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg, a gun control advocate, heard the familiar in Obama's initial response, despite the striking emotion.
"Not enough," Bloomberg said of Obama's words. "We have heard all the rhetoric before. What we have not seen is leadership - not from the White House and not from Congress. That must end today."
The Newtown shooter brought three guns into the school, and the weapons were registered to his slain mother, according to a law enforcement official who was not authorized to discuss information with reporters and spoke on condition of anonymity. The official said a Glock and a Sig Sauer, both pistols, and a .223-caliber Bushmaster rifle were found in the school after the attack, and a fourth weapon was recovered outside.
One certainty in the weeks to come is that both parties in Washington will carefully watch public opinion on gun control and the Second Amendment, and whether any impact lasts. Opposition to stricter laws has proved resilient.
In July, a gunman opened fire on Aurora, Colo., theatergoers watching the Batman movie, "The Dark Knight Rises," killing 12 people. The next month, an Associated Press-National Constitution Center poll found that 49 percent of Americans felt laws limiting gun ownership infringe on the right to bear arms, while only 43 percent said such laws do not infringe on those rights.
By many measures, Americans have changed on the question since the 1990s, when people favored gun control over gun rights - by a 2-to-1 margin in polling after the 1999 Columbine High School massacre in Colorado. In a Gallup poll last year, 55 percent said gun laws should stay the same or be more lenient, while 43 percent wanted them toughened.
None of this is lost on Washington, where most Democrats long ago abandoned their advocacy of gun control, convinced that it is a losing issue for them. Obama has proposed reinstituting a federal ban on military-style assault weapons that lapsed years ago, but he's put no weight behind it, while signing laws letting people carry concealed weapons in national parks and in checked bags on Amtrak trains.
After the movie-theater attack, Obama declared "we should leave no stone unturned" to keep young people safe in a speech indicating he would challenge Congress to act on gun control. That expectation lasted for one day. The White House swiftly clarified that Obama would not propose stiffer gun laws this election year and favored more effective enforcement of existing law - a position hardly distinguishable from that of his Republican rival, Mitt Romney.
Likewise, early last year, Obama weighed in on guns after an assailant killed six people and wounded 13, shooting then-Rep. Giffords in the head outside a grocery store in Tucson, Ariz. The president called for "sound and effective steps" in gun laws as part of a "new discussion on how we can keep America safe for all our people." He soon went back to silence on the topic and gun-control advocates waited in vain for the steps.
With his last presidential campaign behind him, Obama is freer to take up contentious matters that he wouldn't touch when he was an incumbent seeking re-election. Odds are favorable that he will have at least one vacancy to fill on a Supreme Court now closely divided on gun cases.
The Aurora attack happened in the heat of the campaign, when Democrats wanted no trouble from gun owners. In its first official response to the killings, Obama's White House pledged to protect fundamental gun rights. Obama and his spokesmen never failed to couple his wish for "common-sense measures" with his devotion to the Second Amendment.
But after the massacre of children Friday, Obama spoke mainly of the anguish, and the need for action, and not at all about the right to bear arms.
By the standards of gun-control politics, that alone was a crack in the status quo.
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Associated Press writer Matt Apuzzo in Newtown, Conn., contributed to this report.
The answer, after the Virginia Tech killings, the attempted assassination of Gabby Giffords, the Colorado movie-theater attack, the Wisconsin Sikh temple shootings, and more: No.
But now?
The massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn., the bloodiest attack against youngsters in the nation's history, stands as a possible tipping point after Washington's decade-long aversion even to talking about stricter gun laws.
So it seems in the stunned aftermath, judging from President Barack Obama's body language as much as his statement. "We have been through this too many times," said the famously composed president, this time moved to tears. "We're going to have to come together and take meaningful action to prevent more tragedies like this, regardless of the politics."
It remains to be seen whether Sandy Hook will break the usual cycle of universal shock fading into political reality. That reality is based on a combination of powerful gun lobbying and public opinion, which has shifted against tougher gun control and stayed that way. However lawmakers react this time, it's the president's call whether the issue fades again or takes its place alongside the legacy-shaping initiatives of his time, with all the peril that could mean for his party.
With the murder rate less than half what it was two decades ago, and violent crime down even more in that time, gun control has declined as a political issue.
But New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg, a gun control advocate, heard the familiar in Obama's initial response, despite the striking emotion.
"Not enough," Bloomberg said of Obama's words. "We have heard all the rhetoric before. What we have not seen is leadership - not from the White House and not from Congress. That must end today."
The Newtown shooter brought three guns into the school, and the weapons were registered to his slain mother, according to a law enforcement official who was not authorized to discuss information with reporters and spoke on condition of anonymity. The official said a Glock and a Sig Sauer, both pistols, and a .223-caliber Bushmaster rifle were found in the school after the attack, and a fourth weapon was recovered outside.
One certainty in the weeks to come is that both parties in Washington will carefully watch public opinion on gun control and the Second Amendment, and whether any impact lasts. Opposition to stricter laws has proved resilient.
In July, a gunman opened fire on Aurora, Colo., theatergoers watching the Batman movie, "The Dark Knight Rises," killing 12 people. The next month, an Associated Press-National Constitution Center poll found that 49 percent of Americans felt laws limiting gun ownership infringe on the right to bear arms, while only 43 percent said such laws do not infringe on those rights.
By many measures, Americans have changed on the question since the 1990s, when people favored gun control over gun rights - by a 2-to-1 margin in polling after the 1999 Columbine High School massacre in Colorado. In a Gallup poll last year, 55 percent said gun laws should stay the same or be more lenient, while 43 percent wanted them toughened.
None of this is lost on Washington, where most Democrats long ago abandoned their advocacy of gun control, convinced that it is a losing issue for them. Obama has proposed reinstituting a federal ban on military-style assault weapons that lapsed years ago, but he's put no weight behind it, while signing laws letting people carry concealed weapons in national parks and in checked bags on Amtrak trains.
After the movie-theater attack, Obama declared "we should leave no stone unturned" to keep young people safe in a speech indicating he would challenge Congress to act on gun control. That expectation lasted for one day. The White House swiftly clarified that Obama would not propose stiffer gun laws this election year and favored more effective enforcement of existing law - a position hardly distinguishable from that of his Republican rival, Mitt Romney.
Likewise, early last year, Obama weighed in on guns after an assailant killed six people and wounded 13, shooting then-Rep. Giffords in the head outside a grocery store in Tucson, Ariz. The president called for "sound and effective steps" in gun laws as part of a "new discussion on how we can keep America safe for all our people." He soon went back to silence on the topic and gun-control advocates waited in vain for the steps.
With his last presidential campaign behind him, Obama is freer to take up contentious matters that he wouldn't touch when he was an incumbent seeking re-election. Odds are favorable that he will have at least one vacancy to fill on a Supreme Court now closely divided on gun cases.
The Aurora attack happened in the heat of the campaign, when Democrats wanted no trouble from gun owners. In its first official response to the killings, Obama's White House pledged to protect fundamental gun rights. Obama and his spokesmen never failed to couple his wish for "common-sense measures" with his devotion to the Second Amendment.
But after the massacre of children Friday, Obama spoke mainly of the anguish, and the need for action, and not at all about the right to bear arms.
By the standards of gun-control politics, that alone was a crack in the status quo.
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Associated Press writer Matt Apuzzo in Newtown, Conn., contributed to this report.
From the CDC...
The top 10 ways to die in the US
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Medical Errors: Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â 195,000
Unintentional injuries: Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â 118,021
Alcohol: Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â 107,400
Motor Vehicle Accidents: Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â 34,485
Unintentional Poisoning:Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â 31,758
Drug Abuse: Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â 25,500
Unintentional Falls: Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â 24,792
Non-Firearm Homicides: Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â 16,799
Firearm Homicides: Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â 11,493
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Before banning guns we should ban tobacco, alcohol, cars, poisons, doctors, and drugs as people use those to kill more than guns. Â Also, the number 1 weapon used in violent crimes is...a baseball bat. Â Think about that the next time you go to a little league game, or should we ban those also since they have a potential for violence.
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Watch how "gun control" ... "worked" in Canada:
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.... Gun control is coming here {unless we stop it}.
Went to four gun stores in the Olympia area today. Â Shelves were empty, displays were empty, phones were ringing off the hook. Â I'm sure it was like this everywhere else in the country. Thanks to all the gun control advocates for pushing people who otherwise would not have bought a gun to go out and buy one. Â They will now know the joys of owning a gun.
I think people need to do some basic research before jumping to any conclusions.
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We HAD a federal assault weapons ban from 1994 to 2004. Magazine capacity for pistols was also limited during this time.
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We had around 30 school shootings during that period including columbine high school.
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We already know how effective an assault weapons ban can be - not very effective at all.
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Guns are just a convenient tool for destruction. People are pretty inventive though. Explosives, microwaves, biological, and electronic warfare are available to every high school kid now days.
The answer to the article caption should be a resounding YES! All high-powered rifles capable of multiple shots without need for reload should be destroyed - getting these killing machines out of society. The only purpose of these weapons is to kill - they NEVER should have been allowed into public hands from the get.
 @ytboarder I'm sure the cops will be glad to turn theirs in first, right? They are members of the public, too. Or are they "more equal" than the rest?
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It would be impossible to rid society of the high powered fire arms.
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How would you even begin?
 @Awesome Dobson  @ytboarder Obviously make more laws that won't get enforced and that CRIMINALS won't follow.
 @ytboarder Couldn't agree with you more.  I kill dozens of paper targets with my rifle every weekend.  I should probably melt my rifle down. Â
Actually it isn't the bloodiest attack at a school in history in the US. That happened in Michigan in 1927 when an ex school board member blew up a school using 3 bombs and killing 47. Google it if you don't believe. I'm pretty sure bombs are (and were) illegal.
I am going to buy another pistol and rifle this morning. thanks to the disarming tools for spurring me on :)
Each year, an estimated 443,000 people die prematurely from smoking or exposure to secondhand smoke. An estimated 3,000 NONSMOKING Americans die of lung cancer, more than 46,000 die of heart disease.
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Some 12,000 people are killed every year by drunk drivers in the U.S. In 2010, 211 children were killed in drunken driving crashes. Out of those 211 deaths, 131 (62 percent) were riding with the drunk driver.
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These events shouldnât trigger an all out assault on citizensâ rights. The focus should be the peoples whose lives were cut short and others whose loved ones were ripped from their lives.
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Its people that are the problem, Â itâs how we can help society mend its mental health that should be up for discussion and change!!!!
Time for our spineless and for sale elected officials to stand up to the NRA.Â
 @Citizen#3457899654 You DO realize that the NRA has more than 4,000,000 members, and is the largest civil rights group in America, so NOT passing ineffective rights-violating laws IS standing up FOR America? Just because they are not doing what YOU want doesn't mean they are not doing what the voters are asking for.
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that,s 4,000,001 I just joined today thx's
Guns also save lives.
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 @al_wa And again, it gives lie to the constant leftist mantra of "it'll lead to shootout like the OK Corral" and "bystanders will get shot in the barrage of cross-fire".
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you people have no clue it's not guns. it's mental health problems.
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Not even a chance to change the way NRA and NRA members and gun owners see their guns. Asking them to agree to a truly regulated gun ownership system is like asking them to cut off an arm of give up a child. Gun control WILL NEVER HAPPEN. Presidents, civil right leaders and even John Lennon were killed.  God Bless the USA, the land of the free and the land of ten thousand homicides a year. What a country!
Anybody that believes the 2nd admendment was meant only for the militia denies reality and history. The people of that time had to own firearms to hunt for meat! Not a safe trip to QFC! There may have been a very few vegetarians back then, but most of them got scalped by the indigenous population who wanted payback!
Gee, aren't guns wonderful? The only thing we need is more of them.
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This is the position of the NRA, as they oppose any and every control of any kind. I can't think of a more extreme position on any act of public policy. Republicans finally now have the balls to tell Grover Norquist to go F himself, why can't they muster the same courage when it comes to the NRA?
 @Superman_1967 I agree. I don't see why a single mother of a possibly disturbed son needed that many guns.
 @Anarchy  @Superman_1967 I find your comment rather ironic in light of your handle. In a state of anarchy, the need for guns goes WAY up.
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As for "that many," not sure what you mean. I've only heard about three so far (a primary handgun, a backup handgun, and a low-recoil home-defense rifle) which seems like a pretty minimal set to me. Most of us only have two hands, so having more than two doesn't make us any more or less dangerous. Different tools for different jobs, and all that.
Maybe time for the media to put a sock in it. May or may not work to keep the "copycats" from acting on their waco plan, yet obviously something has to be done. Yesterday I heard one of the talking heads say " that it could be all the media attention and the their idea of fame that motivates these wacjobs to do these unspeakable acts", then he just kept on jawing about it. Some would call it "censorship" , how about calling it media "restraint" I don't know, but if it saves lives I think it's worth a try. I only know something has to be done to keep these people from acting out their fantasies, and trying to ban guns isn't the answer. I don't always agree with the NRA stance but I understand where they are coming from. Gen McArthur called it "allowing the camels nose under the tent". If you give the "antis an inch they will be back for the mile and we can't let that happen. I have no use myself for the assault type rifles, but whats next ? hunting rifles ?? They won't stop till they get their way. I don't have all the answers but like I said banning guns isn't one of them.  PS; As sick as this killing of these poor children, not to mention the adults is ( and it has made me just sick to may stomach) the media response ( say frenzy) is running a close second.
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
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 @Socialjusticeforall good luck, all you'll do is make the legal gun owners illegal gun owners..were not going to give them up period.. nice try with the drama ( kill your kids )..
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odds are you'll kill them driving before they get shot.. so hand over your keys it's for your own safety drama queen alert..
 @Socialjusticeforall But your proposed change doesn't allow me to protect MINE, so, NO, thanks. You are in favor of victim disarmament and total state control over people's lives (except for government cronies and criminals, but I repeat myself)
 @vadersith vader, are you a member of a well regulated militia? Which one? How are you "regulated"?
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see my avatar I'm part of the imperial empire... lol your an idiot lol
you libs always pushing your flawed beliefs on others cracks me up..
normally I don't responds to know it all trolls like yourself... Just couldn't resist..
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so kiss my backside right on the starfish and have a nice day... i also joined the NRA today thx's libs
 @vadersith It's "You're an idiot" there Einstein. Clearly the Empire doesn't hold English classes.  I also noticed you failed to answer even one of my questions. That's quite alright. I wasn't really expecting any answers from you. Nice handle by the way... Never quite graduated middle school mentality, did you. = )
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10 USC § 311 - Militia: composition and classes:
(a) The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.
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(1) the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and (2) the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.
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Hey, maybe even YOU are a member of the militia!
 @RN1  @vadersith No... I'm honestly not... Sorry
 @TruthinAdverts  @vadersith Look again at the definition in US US Code, Section 311, sub-section (a). If you meet those qualifications, you are likely a part of the unorganized militia as stated in (b)(2).
 @RN1  @vadersith well... I've been a member of the Navy... and I'm in the fire department, but I'm pretty certain I'm not in any "militias". Nor do I know anyone who openly admits to such membership... and I know some very avid gun owners. My guess is that in Colonial times and during the incipient years of our nation, our founding fathers appreciated the agrarian nature of our society meant that we wouldn't have a regular "standing" army, except in the case of active war. Thus, militias (much as it was even through the civil war) was a means of keeping american men training in not only weapons use, but drilling as well. Do you drill regularly with your militia? Or do you just go blast away with your firearm? If it's the latter, you aren't in a militia, though you may belong to a shooting club.Â
AUSTRALIA: MORE VIOLENT CRIME DESPITE GUN BAN April 13, 2009 It is a common fantasy that gun bans make society safer. In 2002 -- five years after enacting its gun ban -- the Australian Bureau of Criminology acknowledged there is no correlation between gun control and the use of firearms in violent crime. In fact, the percent of murders committed with a firearm was the highest it had ever been in 2006 (16.3 percent), says the D.C. Examiner.Even Australia's Bureau of Crime Statistics and Research acknowledges that the gun ban had no significant impact on the amount of gun-involved crime:
⢠In 2006, assault rose 49.2 percent and robbery 6.2 percent.Â
⢠Sexual assault -- Australia's equivalent term for rape -- increased 29.9 percent.
⢠Overall, Australia's violent crime rate rose 42.2 percent. Moreover, Australia and the United States -- where no gun-ban exists -- both experienced similar decreases in murder rates:
⢠Between 1995 and 2007, Australia saw a 31.9 percent decrease; without a gun ban, America's rate dropped 31.7 percent.Â
⢠During the same time period, all other violent crime indices increased in Australia: assault rose 49.2 percent and robbery 6.2 percent.Â
⢠Sexual assault -- Australia's equivalent term for rape -- increased 29.9 percent.Â
⢠Overall, Australia's violent crime rate rose 42.2 percent.Â
⢠At the same time, U.S. violent crime decreased 31.8 percent: rape dropped 19.2 percent; robbery decreased 33.2 percent; aggravated assault dropped 32.2 percent.Â
⢠Australian women are now raped over three times as often as American women. While this doesn't prove that more guns would impact crime rates, it does prove that gun control is a flawed policy. Furthermore, this highlights the most important point: gun banners promote failed policy regardless of the consequences to the people who must live with them, says the Examiner. Source: Howard Nemerov, "Australia experiencing more violent crime despite gun ban," D.C. Examiner, April 8, 2009.
 @d_2 what a troll job
 @Larry*X*K Bitter Larry?  Shall I remind everyone where you were, or are losing cred commenting on articles w/o reading a single line?  Just because it opposes your opinion, you shouldn't label.  Grow up Larry!
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If there had been an adult with a gun at the school to defend those children, fewer people would have been hurt. If we criminalize guns then the only people who have guns are the criminals. Look what is happening in Britian. It took 4 HOURS for the police to capture a criminal on a shooting rampage because of their gun control laws.
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I also feel uncomfortable with only government officials possessing firearms. It screams of a military state to me.
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This is not a gun control issue, this is a moral and heart issue. With the rise of single parent familes (i.e. fatherless kids), as well as the push to evict God from all sectors of our society (even Christmas), is it any wonder that there are some young men out there who want to act out in utter frustration like this?
 @James127 This might be one of those cases. Or, it might be a case of a brain that's just not wired right, and there really wasn't much anyone could have reasonably done differently. We many never know, but it's not likely we'll know for a while in any case.
Guns, mental health, family values. 3 Topics that are becoming increasingly intertwined in our society. I think we have a lot of work to do on all 3. Two things are clear I think we can all agree- this kid should not have had access to guns, but should have been in counseling (haven't yet heard if he was) - even if he was resisting it, every effort should've been made to get him help by the dad and the mom and even the brother. This was just exactly the recipe for a calamity like this.
I believe in the right ti bear arms. Meaning own a gun. I do not altho in the past I have had many guns in my home. BUT there is NO NEED for anyone to own an assault rifle. I think guns laws need to be revised. It is too easy to get guns.
 @MyIdeas It's a good thing my rifles are inanimate objects then! They'd never assault a single thing :)Â
 @MyIdeas What's the difference between an assault rifle that holds 30 rounds and a Glock with an extended magazine that holds 30 rounds?  The handgun is much more concealable.  If you're going to ban one, ban them all.  But it's not going to work, because laws will only be followed by law abiding citizens.  Â
 @MyIdeas No assault rifle was involved. I've seen reports that an AR15 type rifle was recovered in a car, but no reliable reports that it was actually used in any way, therefore it's existence is more or less immaterial to the case at hand. As for why someone would want one? reliable, low-recoil, inexpensive, accurate, comfortable to shoot, lots of after-market customization options. Pretty much the same reasons you'd want any power-tool.
 @MyIdeas What do you define as an assault rifle?
Yeah, let's just keep putting on more band aids. Murder, last time I checked, is still illegal. Since the beginning of our nation, the right to bear arms has been a right bestowed on us by the framers of our constitution. Brilliant men, by the way. Yes, they have also been used to commit heinous crimes for ages. But John Wayne Gacy didn't use guns. Ted Bundy didn't either. In schools, guns were used sporatically for single shootings of teachers and admin staff until the 1960s. This is when s...tudents began to kill each other. School shootings against students took a sharp increase in the 1980's and began to skyrocket in the 1990's. We can talk all we want about controlling guns, but lets face it, what a law-abiding citizen has to go through to purchase a firearm today is far more intense than it has ever been. But the crimes continue to be more and more insane. Guns aren't the evil here. Our society is sick and becoming more and more evil. We have robbed our young of hope. We've reduced God's creation to a mere coincidence of nature. We've outlawed godliness and have legalized immorality. Right has become wrong and wrong has become right. Seems like I've read about this somewhere before. We've spent the last couple generations telling school kids that they should be looking within for their strength and moral guidance while removing the Ten Commandments from their schools. There's no heaven or hell. No consequences for our actions. No hope of eternal life with Christ. We mock the Tim Tebows of the world and idolize the godless and then provide school kids with iPods, iPads, and smart phones so they can have unlimited access to pornography and violence. And now the chickens have come home to roost. There is a loving God. He's not a dictator. He's not going to force us against our will. Instead, He grieves as He watches our world turn away from Him and spiral deeper into the pit of hell, a place that a vast majority refuses to acknowledge anymore. After all everyone goes to heaven. Except, of course murderers and the like. Right? It's about time we wake up and face the real problem, or are we going to continue putting bandages on gangrenous wounds.
 @Whoanelly Thank you for your well written thoughts..I agree..
 @Whoanelly SOOOOO very well said/written. In fact, my son, the father of a 5 & 7 year old, called me last evening, very sad and shaken by the Newtown murders. I brought up many of the ideas in your comment. It started in the 1960-70s when we started taking God out of our schools and that was no place for teaching morality. It then proceeded to taking discipline away from our teachers.'Oh, we don't want to damage their little psychies by teaching them right from wrong'. Then in the 80s, comes video games that have progressed from Mario Brothers to an absurd industry of violent, murdering, illicit, criminal, and disgusting so-called gaming entertainment via a myriad of electronic gadgets, mainly from Nintendo and Wii.
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We need to wake up and recognize the root causes of all this violence, ban violent video games, restore disciple in our schools, allow "One nation under God" to be honored, AND pass new legislation that bans the sales of all guns not deemed necessary for self protection, and legal hunting, and tax the hell out of all ammunition. AND, this should be done on a national level, not state-by-state.
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I know it is far too late to prevent illegal gun possession. There are way too many in circulation. The murderer in Newtown stole the guns he used from his own mother. BUT, if our government had the actual GUTS to shut down manufacturing and sales of all but hand guns and hunting rifles, which I believe was the intention of our founding fathers in the 2nd amendment, we MIGHT start seeing an end to this kind of violence. There is absolutely no reason for anyone to possess an assault weapon, unless they are in combat......none of that on our soil, so far.
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1) This was not a kid, he was an Adult.
2) Looking to the Government to legislate and criminalize what is already illegal won't help.
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When the police were so woefully out gunned by 2 robbers with Automatic weaponry? So lets take the weapons out of everyone's hands so that there is NO chance to defend yourself.  Because everyone knows... criminals never steal their weapons or ammunition, and they ALWAYS  adhere to the 3 day waiting period and are mentally evaluated before making a gun purchase.
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Did you know that most criminals get more time shooting their weapon and are more familiar with it than police are?
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Society needs to stop looking towards the "Easy, wash your hands, it's-your-fault-because-you-failed-Jesus" attitude. This is not an easy fix, this is NOT going to be done by someone else. Stop passing the buck, quit being judgmental, and learn to SEE the world for what it is rather than what you think it SHOULD have been. There are no do-overs. There are no retrys, no one cares if you saw it coming, if the most you did to try and change the world was to post here and tell others what your opinion is, you are the same as every other lazy person in the world.Â
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Where was the gun? Sense-less violence is just that SENSE-LESS. Stop trying to look at irrational thoughts rationally.
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tell me where you get that the founders intended the 2nd amendment to apply for hunting.. maybe you should read it since you clearly don't know what it says..
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 @Yadayada  @Whoanelly Combat on our soil... If the State hadn't sent it's tools to murder them, I'd tell you to ask some folks in Idaho and Texas about that.