Manhunt for rogue ex-cop ends in flames at cabin
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BIG BEAR LAKE, Calif. (AP) — The manhunt for a former Los Angeles police officer suspected of going on a killing spree converged Tuesday on a mountain cabin where authorities believe he barricaded himself inside, engaged in a shootout that killed a deputy and then never emerged as the home went up in flames.
A single gunshot was heard from within, and a law enforcement official told The Associated Press Tuesday evening that officials had found a charred body. Later, San Bernardino County sheriff's spokeswoman Jodi Miller said that the remains had been found inside the burned-out cabin.
Investigators will use forensic tests to determine if the body belongs to Christopher Dorner. If the results are positive, the search for the most wanted man in America over the last week will have ended the way he had expected — death, with the police pursuing him. He is believed to have killed at least four people.
Thousands of officers had been on the hunt for the former Navy reservist since police said he launched a campaign to exact revenge against the Los Angeles Police Department for his firing. They say he threatened to bring "warfare" to officers and their families, spreading fear and setting off a search for him across the Southwest and Mexico.
"Enough is enough. It's time for you to turn yourself in. It's time to stop the bloodshed," LAPD Cmdr. Andrew Smith said at a news conference held outside police headquarters in Los Angeles, a starkly different atmosphere than last week when Dorner was on the loose and officials briefed the news media under heavy security in an underground hallway.
A short time after Smith spoke Tuesday, smoke began to rise from the cabin in the snow-covered woods near Big Bear Lake, a resort town about 80 miles east of Los Angeles. Flames then engulfed the building — images that were broadcast on live television around the world. TV helicopters showed the fire burning freely with no apparent effort to extinguish it.
"We have reason to believe that it is him," said San Bernardino County sheriff's spokeswoman Cynthia Bachman, adding that she didn't know how the fire started. She noted there was gunfire between the person in the cabin and officers around the home before the blaze began.
There were conflicting reports about whether a body had been found inside shortly after the fire, with both the Los Angeles and San Bernardino authorities disputing the find in separate news conferences. But an official later told the AP a body had been seen in the rubble. The official requested anonymity because of the ongoing investigation.
Until Tuesday, authorities didn't know whether Dorner was still near Big Bear Lake, where they found his burned-out pickup last week.
It's believed that Dorner broke into a house near where his truck was found and tied two people up.
About mid-day Tuesday, wardens from the California Department of Fish and Wildlife spotted a purple Nissan car that had been reported stolen, department spokesman Lt. Patrick Foy said. The wardens recognized the driver as someone matching Dorner's description.
They pursued the driver and briefly lost him when he turned onto a side road. Three other wardens in two vehicles turned onto the road a short time later, and were searching for the car when they saw a white pickup truck driving toward them erratically and at a high rate of speed.
Wardens got a close look at the driver and realized it was Dorner, who rolled down his window and opened fire, Foy said.
The wildlife vehicle was hit numerous times, and one of the wardens was able to get out and fire at the driver, who escaped on foot after crashing his truck.
After holing up in the cabin, there was a second gunbattle with San Bernardino County deputies, two of whom were shot. One died and the other was expected to live after undergoing surgery.
"We're heartbroken," Big Bear Lake Mayor Jay Obernolte said of the deputy's death and the wounding of his colleague. "Words can't express how grateful we are for the sacrifice those men have made in defense of the community, and our thoughts and prayers are with them and their families."
The man believed to be Dorner never came out of the cabin, and a single shot was heard inside before the cabin was engulfed in flames, a law enforcement official told The Associated Press.
Earlier, a SWAT team surrounded the cabin and used an armored vehicle to break out the cabin windows, the official said. The officers then pumped a gas into the cabin and blasted a message over a loudspeaker: "Surrender or come out."
The armored vehicle then tore down each of the cabin's four walls, like peeling back the layers of an onion, the official said.
Police say Dorner began his run on Feb. 6 after they connected the slayings of a former police captain's daughter and her fiance with an angry Facebook rant they said he posted. Threats against the LAPD led officials to assign officers to protect officers and their families.
Within hours of the release of photos of the 6-foot, 270-pounder described as armed and "extremely dangerous," police say, Dorner unsuccessfully tried to steal a boat in San Diego to flee to Mexico and opened fire on two patrol cars in Riverside County, shooting three officers and killing one.
Jumpy officers guarding one of the targets named in the rant shot and injured two women delivering newspapers Thursday in Torrance because they mistook their pickup truck for Dorner's.
Police found weapons and camping gear inside the charred truck in Big Bear. Helicopters using heat-seeking technology searched the forest from above while scores of officers, some using bloodhounds, scoured the ground and checked hundreds of vacation cabins — many vacant this time of year — in the area.
A snowstorm hindered the search and may have helped cover his tracks, though authorities were hopeful he would leave fresh footprints if hiding in the wilderness.
Dorner's anger with the department dated back at least five years, when he was fired for filing a false report accusing his training officer of kicking a mentally ill suspect. Dorner, who is black, claimed in the rant that he was the subject of racism by the department and fired for doing the right thing.
He said he would get even with those who wronged him as part of his plan to reclaim his good name.
"You're going to see what a whistleblower can do when you take everything from him especially his NAME!!!" the rant said. "You have awoken a sleeping giant."
Chief Charlie Beck, who initially dismissed the allegations in the rant, said he reopened the investigation into his firing — not to appease the ex-officer, but to restore confidence in the black community, which long had a fractured relationship with police that has improved in recent years.
One of the targets listed in the manifesto was former LAPD Capt. Randal Quan, who represented Dorner before the disciplinary board. Dorner claimed he put the interests of the department above his.
The first victims were Quan's daughter, Monica Quan, 28, a college basketball coach, and her fiance, Keith Lawrence, 27. They were shot multiple times in their car in a parking garage near their Orange County condo.
Dorner served in the Navy, earning a rifle marksman ribbon and pistol expert medal. He was assigned to a naval undersea warfare unit and various aviation training units, according to military records. He took leave from the LAPD for a six-month deployment to Bahrain in 2006 and 2007.
He left the service on Feb. 1.
Copyright 2013 The Associated Press.
A single gunshot was heard from within, and a law enforcement official told The Associated Press Tuesday evening that officials had found a charred body. Later, San Bernardino County sheriff's spokeswoman Jodi Miller said that the remains had been found inside the burned-out cabin.
Investigators will use forensic tests to determine if the body belongs to Christopher Dorner. If the results are positive, the search for the most wanted man in America over the last week will have ended the way he had expected — death, with the police pursuing him. He is believed to have killed at least four people.
Thousands of officers had been on the hunt for the former Navy reservist since police said he launched a campaign to exact revenge against the Los Angeles Police Department for his firing. They say he threatened to bring "warfare" to officers and their families, spreading fear and setting off a search for him across the Southwest and Mexico.
"Enough is enough. It's time for you to turn yourself in. It's time to stop the bloodshed," LAPD Cmdr. Andrew Smith said at a news conference held outside police headquarters in Los Angeles, a starkly different atmosphere than last week when Dorner was on the loose and officials briefed the news media under heavy security in an underground hallway.
A short time after Smith spoke Tuesday, smoke began to rise from the cabin in the snow-covered woods near Big Bear Lake, a resort town about 80 miles east of Los Angeles. Flames then engulfed the building — images that were broadcast on live television around the world. TV helicopters showed the fire burning freely with no apparent effort to extinguish it.
"We have reason to believe that it is him," said San Bernardino County sheriff's spokeswoman Cynthia Bachman, adding that she didn't know how the fire started. She noted there was gunfire between the person in the cabin and officers around the home before the blaze began.
There were conflicting reports about whether a body had been found inside shortly after the fire, with both the Los Angeles and San Bernardino authorities disputing the find in separate news conferences. But an official later told the AP a body had been seen in the rubble. The official requested anonymity because of the ongoing investigation.
Until Tuesday, authorities didn't know whether Dorner was still near Big Bear Lake, where they found his burned-out pickup last week.
It's believed that Dorner broke into a house near where his truck was found and tied two people up.
About mid-day Tuesday, wardens from the California Department of Fish and Wildlife spotted a purple Nissan car that had been reported stolen, department spokesman Lt. Patrick Foy said. The wardens recognized the driver as someone matching Dorner's description.
They pursued the driver and briefly lost him when he turned onto a side road. Three other wardens in two vehicles turned onto the road a short time later, and were searching for the car when they saw a white pickup truck driving toward them erratically and at a high rate of speed.
Wardens got a close look at the driver and realized it was Dorner, who rolled down his window and opened fire, Foy said.
The wildlife vehicle was hit numerous times, and one of the wardens was able to get out and fire at the driver, who escaped on foot after crashing his truck.
After holing up in the cabin, there was a second gunbattle with San Bernardino County deputies, two of whom were shot. One died and the other was expected to live after undergoing surgery.
"We're heartbroken," Big Bear Lake Mayor Jay Obernolte said of the deputy's death and the wounding of his colleague. "Words can't express how grateful we are for the sacrifice those men have made in defense of the community, and our thoughts and prayers are with them and their families."
The man believed to be Dorner never came out of the cabin, and a single shot was heard inside before the cabin was engulfed in flames, a law enforcement official told The Associated Press.
Earlier, a SWAT team surrounded the cabin and used an armored vehicle to break out the cabin windows, the official said. The officers then pumped a gas into the cabin and blasted a message over a loudspeaker: "Surrender or come out."
The armored vehicle then tore down each of the cabin's four walls, like peeling back the layers of an onion, the official said.
Police say Dorner began his run on Feb. 6 after they connected the slayings of a former police captain's daughter and her fiance with an angry Facebook rant they said he posted. Threats against the LAPD led officials to assign officers to protect officers and their families.
Within hours of the release of photos of the 6-foot, 270-pounder described as armed and "extremely dangerous," police say, Dorner unsuccessfully tried to steal a boat in San Diego to flee to Mexico and opened fire on two patrol cars in Riverside County, shooting three officers and killing one.
Jumpy officers guarding one of the targets named in the rant shot and injured two women delivering newspapers Thursday in Torrance because they mistook their pickup truck for Dorner's.
Police found weapons and camping gear inside the charred truck in Big Bear. Helicopters using heat-seeking technology searched the forest from above while scores of officers, some using bloodhounds, scoured the ground and checked hundreds of vacation cabins — many vacant this time of year — in the area.
A snowstorm hindered the search and may have helped cover his tracks, though authorities were hopeful he would leave fresh footprints if hiding in the wilderness.
Dorner's anger with the department dated back at least five years, when he was fired for filing a false report accusing his training officer of kicking a mentally ill suspect. Dorner, who is black, claimed in the rant that he was the subject of racism by the department and fired for doing the right thing.
He said he would get even with those who wronged him as part of his plan to reclaim his good name.
"You're going to see what a whistleblower can do when you take everything from him especially his NAME!!!" the rant said. "You have awoken a sleeping giant."
Chief Charlie Beck, who initially dismissed the allegations in the rant, said he reopened the investigation into his firing — not to appease the ex-officer, but to restore confidence in the black community, which long had a fractured relationship with police that has improved in recent years.
One of the targets listed in the manifesto was former LAPD Capt. Randal Quan, who represented Dorner before the disciplinary board. Dorner claimed he put the interests of the department above his.
The first victims were Quan's daughter, Monica Quan, 28, a college basketball coach, and her fiance, Keith Lawrence, 27. They were shot multiple times in their car in a parking garage near their Orange County condo.
Dorner served in the Navy, earning a rifle marksman ribbon and pistol expert medal. He was assigned to a naval undersea warfare unit and various aviation training units, according to military records. He took leave from the LAPD for a six-month deployment to Bahrain in 2006 and 2007.
He left the service on Feb. 1.
Copyright 2013 The Associated Press.
Not so fast. According to CNN no body was recovered yet. It might have been a ploy.
We can argue until the cows come home about whether Dorner was shafted by the LAPD or whether he lied about his training officer kicking a mentally ill suspect. Whatever. One fact remains: NOTHING justifies what Dorner did.
@Sylvie8141 Ditto. Nothing justifies he LAPD response during the almost week of shooting civilians, more than 400 mistaken identity felony stops with guns drawn. Nobody appeared to be safe; black guys, old Mexican women, skinny white guys, Asian folks had their life changed. That department is an equal opportunity band of thugs. The LAPD appeared to be at war with citizens with swat teams raiding and destroying dozens homes, many belonging to people who when interviewed did not know dorner/never seen him before.
Scanner broadcasts detail the LAPD ordering SWAT to deploy "burners," shortly after media helicopters were ordered away.
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@burton The Geneva ConventionS (note the plural) are related to international law and the treatment of prisoners of war, civilians during wartime, etc.Â
If you took just 10 seconds to look up the term rather than just parroting what you thought you heard someone else say, you'd know that.Â
 @burton burners are tear gas grenades.
 @sometimesright  @burton Known to cause fires...
 @burton Oh, B.S. Unless you can back it up, stop the crap.
 @Sylvie8141  @burton Backed up: (WARNING: COARSE LANGUAGE): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNk-bV40XMc&feature=youtu.be and http://www.infowars.com/lapd-audio-from-dorner-siege-burn-this-motherfucker/
 @burton Do you have a recording?
This story is straight out of a Movie!
 @grayfox Yep, before long someone will want to make a buck off the situation.  They will probably have at least two movies, the 'LAPD Story' and the 'Conspiracy Theory' version.  I only know one thing for certain, when the movies do come out, I will not be watching.
@K. Coleman @grayfox Don't the police department have regular psych evaluations to prevent Rogue actions like this?
Glad it is over though !
When he seemed to drop from sight I figured he was dead somewhere frozen in the snow. When he surfaced, and was chased into that other cabin, I told my wife that he was trapped and would likely set the cabin on fire and kill himself. I am glad he did not kill any more innocent people, although I do feel for the families of all his victims. Â
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He did shoot 2 deputies , one of them has died :(
HEARTACHE for the Democratic Party/ CNN Dorner Fan Club. I hope he enjoyed the stench of his pelt roasting before he cooked to death.
 @Attila Really? The Democratic Party? Get a life.
I was busy today and a little bit behind the news as it happened...can someone fill me in?
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Weren't there (supposedly) Â two captives in the cabin with Dorner and one captive escaped? Â Didn't that escaped person inform the authorities about their captor? Â As the cabin burned, all I could think about was the one captive left behind with Dorner. Â I haven't been able to find any reports that clears this up for me.
 @Tiamonet This is the best information that I have found about the captives:  he was held up in a cabin for the last couple of days with 2 people tied up, when one was able to escape and call police he took off, stole a car and thats when he was spotted, crashed the car and took up in a different cabin with no one else inside
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 @amber98201 Thank you!  That clears things up a bit.  There has already been too many lives lost for senseless reasons.  I'm happy to hear that there are two less people to mourn than there could have been.
"11:13 PM ET LAPD refutes reports that Dorner's body was found"
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 @burton Misinformation doesn't stop KOMO.
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 @PhunkyMunky I am sure they or some civil rights group might have may something to say about the more than 400 innocent people who wound up in felony stops held at gunpoint6. LAPD commander had the nerve to call those mistaken identities, a minor inconvenience. . Several people were ambushed by trigger happy cops causing more mayhem.
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I guess that's what you call blind justice. black, white, Mexican,man, woman, child... they all looked like dorner
@PhunkyMunky I highly doubt they give a rip.
Well, that was an entertaining week. Possibly nut job Commie cop vs definitely nut job fascist cops fight brought on the hilarity of the irony. If he actually did the murders (he much have because the Media has all convicted him anyway with no trial at all) he deserves what he got. But since the news is more propaganda and entertainment than actual news, we may never know for sure.Â
@PhunkyMunky So, are you insinuating that Dorner didn't kill the two cops, shoot the other two cops, and kill the two innocents in the parking garage. You aren't a conspiracy theorist, are you? Put your tin foil cap back on the get back in your lead bunker.Â
 @jlynnhood  @PhunkyMunky I am not insinuating anything. He hasn't gone to trail and proven guilty. That's not conspiracy, that is fact. His "manifesto" stated he intended to kill, that's a count against him, but none of us know for a fact if it was him pulling the trigger or not. If he did commit the murders, he deserved what he got.Â
 @Dave Lancaster While you don't codone his actions, and at least you think he's the responsible guy, it isn't a stretch to say he killed all these people. Otherwise, why did he run? He's guilty, plain and simple.Â
@Bornhere: Uh, no I wasnt' there, but I am very comfortable with the fact that Dorner is guilty. I wasn't there when O.J. killed his wife, but we all know he is guilty of that. I know, he was found innocent, but c'mon....
and no, I don't support, condone or applaud him in any way shape or form.
@jlynnhood it is not a known fact, it is a highly supported supposition that he killed the daughter and her fiance. About the two ambused police officers, i've not heard there were witnesses, regarding the sheriffs in Big Bear, I've no doubt he was involved. With that said, I think he's the responsible guy, but you don't know for certain do you?
Well, he (PhunkyMunky) is insulting anyone who has any common sense.  I suppose it was bad form to stoop to his/her level, but it is a known fact Dorner did this.Â
 @jlynnhood No need for insults. So, I take it you were there and witnessed him do all of this? Since you are stating something as fact, I expect evidence. Oh, wait, no trial, no exploration of evidence. No conviction.
Hollywood is scrambling to make a movie as each minute passes.
 @KOMOtose maybe one of the actors who were stopped at gunpoint can play him. the dad from Raven got stopped twice
Oh, and an idependent judge reveiwed Dormer's claims and found NO merit to them. They are reviewing his claims again and will find the same.Â
Dorner was a coward! Even if he had some grievance with LAPD (I don't believe he did), he was a coward for killing two innocent, unarmed civilians, taking two civilians hostage and killing two LEO's. The LEO's had NOTHING to do with his "grievance", they were just doing their jobs, would have taken him into custody and deliverd him to justice. Dorner, you made your bed, now sleep in it you P.O.S.
 @jlynnhood Sorry to split hairs, but I think that thankfully, one of the LEOs he shot today will be all right.
@Doxie. Yep. He killed one at the onset of this fiasco, then the second today. At least from I heard. Prayers out to the LEO families in this senseless tragedy.
Almost equal to the media disaster going this evening - they can't get ANY of the facts straight!
 @jlynnhood Oh, my apologies, I did not realize he killed one at the onset of this mess, only that he killed the daughter/companion of his probation officer.  Yeesh, what a disaster.
I don't care what grievances he may or may not have had - nobody here on this board knows SQUAT about this guy's "case". He took out two LEO's who had absolutely zip to do with his so-called "grievances".
Considering the grief and tragedy he HAS managed to cause - he got off awful, awful cheap.
 @Throbbinhood ACAB
If he is indeed dead, it's a sad day. RIP Dorner.... The people that did you wrong will burn in hell for eternity.Â
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 @jlynnhood jlynnhood, stop hurling insults. It invalidates any point you are trying to make.
And another thing, by claiming Dorner is any kind of victim and inisinuating that he is not guilty because he wasn't offered the chance of a jury trial is hurtling the ultimate insult at the vicitims families!Â
@Bornhere: Are you serious? Anyone who supports this guy is a nut! He kiiled two cops, shot two others, killed two innocent civilians, held two other hostage and has made some unfounded claims!  An independent judge found no merit to his claims and he was fired. It is an insult to any person with common sense to feel sorry for this fellow. My heart goes out to all those who were put in harms way and all those who lost loved ones in this tragedy. Anyone who supports this guy is out of line. End of story!
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 @BravesPackersCougzSounders Domer found out today what happens when you try to cross the blue line. Onething we learned today he did not want to harm the general pubic when he let those ladies go in the cabin. This was simply to cause pain in those that had wrong him and threw him into the shark tank.
One thing we learned today is some woefully uninformed people comment on this site.
 @Seattle  @BravesPackersCougzSounders Ridiculous.  He learned today what happens when you are a cold-blooded killer of innocent human beings.  Period.
 @belsnickles   Yes and how about the police that shot the two ladies in the truck they thought looked like Dorner's. I still do not see how they are going to justify that at all. They drew on and shot two people who were non threatening. I do not care how frightened the police were, this is just unacceptable to me.
@seattle:  "Onething we learned today he did not want to harm the general pubic.." What about the two he killed in the parking garage. The daughter of his lawyer and her fiance. The guy was a COWARD! He deserves no tears, nothing!
 @BravesPackersCougzSounders What a stupid thing to say. This guy snapped a twig!! To take vengeance because you've been wronged by someone....anyone? Really? That's ok by your standards? At least, if it is actually him, and not some poor sap he set up to mislead the cops into thinking he's dead and stop looking for him, we won't have to go through a long drawn out trial, an insanity plea, and then have to house this guy for the rest of his life.Â
 @BravesPackersCougzSounders He tried to abide by the law and use the legal system to stop some of the corruption and the thin blue line abandoned him in his time of need. He did everything he could within the system and ended up losing his career because of it. He was left with few options. Wish he had just tried to get more internet media on his side and get his story out better. Waste of time asking MSM for help when it comes to police corruption.
 @BravesPackersCougzSounders Huh?  He killed two innocent people who did nothing wrong.  He killed another cop today who was just there, doing his job.
Consider the source, Doxie - consider the source.