Judge: Fort Hood shooting suspect can be forcibly shaved

FORT WORTH, Texas (AP) - A judge has the right to order an Army psychiatrist charged in the 2009 Fort Hood shooting rampage to be forcibly shaved before his murder trial, military attorneys told an appeals court Wednesday.
The attorneys, in a document filed on behalf of Col. Gregory Gross, contend that forcibly shaving Maj. Nidal Hasan would not violate the American-born Muslim's religious freedoms and said it is similar to "and no more invasive than" a judge's right to restrain a defendant who is disruptive during a court-martial.
"Forced shaving is not a novel concept in the military," military attorneys said in the judge's response filed with the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Armed Forces. "Army regulations expressly authorize nonconsensual haircutting and face-shaving for recalcitrant incarcerated soldiers. ... If the judge has authority to bind and gag a disruptive accused (soldier), then certainly he has authority to forcibly shave (Hasan)."
Last week that appeals court delayed Hasan's court-martial, which had been set to start earlier this week with jury selection, while it considers his appeal to being forcibly shaved. Now that the judge has responded, the court can make a decision or choose to hear oral arguments in the case first.
Hasan has grown a beard to express his Muslim faith. His defense attorneys have said he won't shave since he's had a premonition that his death is imminent, and he doesn't want to die without a beard because he believes not having one is a sin.
Hasan faces the death penalty or life in prison without parole if convicted in the November 2009 attack on the Texas Army post that killed 13 people and wounded more than two dozen others.
Gross has banned Hasan from courtroom hearings since he first showed up in court in June with a beard, letting him watch the proceedings on a closed-circuit television in a nearby room. But Gross said Hasan will be forcibly shaved before the trial if he doesn't shave himself. The judge has said he wants Hasan in attendance during the court-martial to prevent a possible appeal on the issue if he is convicted.
Gross' response also told the appeals court that his order does not violate Hasan's religious freedoms. Army rules prohibit beards, and those who join the military have agreed to give up certain personal interests over the needs of the service to maintain good order, discipline and security, according to the document.
In urging the court to deny Hasan's appeal and to allow the trial to proceed, Gross' response said that his order to forcibly shave Hasan ensures "that a military trial proceeds without a distracting and disruptive sideshow featuring an officer-accused flagrantly disrespecting the Army, his superiors, and the military judge."
The trial is expected to last more than two months at Fort Hood, about 125 miles southwest of Fort Worth.
The attorneys, in a document filed on behalf of Col. Gregory Gross, contend that forcibly shaving Maj. Nidal Hasan would not violate the American-born Muslim's religious freedoms and said it is similar to "and no more invasive than" a judge's right to restrain a defendant who is disruptive during a court-martial.
"Forced shaving is not a novel concept in the military," military attorneys said in the judge's response filed with the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Armed Forces. "Army regulations expressly authorize nonconsensual haircutting and face-shaving for recalcitrant incarcerated soldiers. ... If the judge has authority to bind and gag a disruptive accused (soldier), then certainly he has authority to forcibly shave (Hasan)."
Last week that appeals court delayed Hasan's court-martial, which had been set to start earlier this week with jury selection, while it considers his appeal to being forcibly shaved. Now that the judge has responded, the court can make a decision or choose to hear oral arguments in the case first.
Hasan has grown a beard to express his Muslim faith. His defense attorneys have said he won't shave since he's had a premonition that his death is imminent, and he doesn't want to die without a beard because he believes not having one is a sin.
Hasan faces the death penalty or life in prison without parole if convicted in the November 2009 attack on the Texas Army post that killed 13 people and wounded more than two dozen others.
Gross has banned Hasan from courtroom hearings since he first showed up in court in June with a beard, letting him watch the proceedings on a closed-circuit television in a nearby room. But Gross said Hasan will be forcibly shaved before the trial if he doesn't shave himself. The judge has said he wants Hasan in attendance during the court-martial to prevent a possible appeal on the issue if he is convicted.
Gross' response also told the appeals court that his order does not violate Hasan's religious freedoms. Army rules prohibit beards, and those who join the military have agreed to give up certain personal interests over the needs of the service to maintain good order, discipline and security, according to the document.
In urging the court to deny Hasan's appeal and to allow the trial to proceed, Gross' response said that his order to forcibly shave Hasan ensures "that a military trial proceeds without a distracting and disruptive sideshow featuring an officer-accused flagrantly disrespecting the Army, his superiors, and the military judge."
The trial is expected to last more than two months at Fort Hood, about 125 miles southwest of Fort Worth.
Just put the SOB to sleep and when he wakes up... Whalla! No more beard.
Learn about the religion of peace: http://youtu.be/HhN6CG1zCRc
 @wayne0004 So please explain how muslims are any different that Christians in the terms that both have had incredibly bloody and incredibly horrific episodes in their past. Â
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I have been to muslim countries and I have been to Christian ones. Â One thing I can say is that extremists, be them muslim, christian or what ever religion you choose are dangerous and can be violent. Â However those who are faithful, and of sound temperament seem to be very level headed and reasonable people regardless of religion.
 @DeadRabitz  @wayne0004 Right now the problem seems to be Islamic extremists, not Christian extremists.
 @DeadRabitz Ok, enough of the intentional obtuseness radical Islamists are this century's evil, just as leftists (fascists, socialists, nazis) were last century's evil. Individuals can be evil, but an entire political philosophy that is evil is much worse.Â
 @LockesChild Oh so christian murderers are fine but muslims are bad?
 @DeadRabitz  @wayne0004 Sorry, it is a vile "religion". The world would be a better place were it extirpated. Rather like the Thuggees  of India, Islamists need to be eliminated from the world.
 @LockesChild  @wayne0004 I think it's a problem when people disparage an entire religion over a few nut jobs.  It's like saying that all Christians are bad because Anders Breivik killed over 70 people. Â
So it's a sin to not have a beard, but it's a-ok to murder thirteen people... the "religion of peace" rears it's ugly head and shows itself again.
Best news I have heard all day!
Good, buzz him clean...especially where the electrodes will go.
too bad, dirtbag!
Ha! Having a beard in a military courtroom is not allowed? That's something I didn't know before.
 @therunner He has to appear in uniform. No facial hair is allowed when you wear the green suit.
Shave him? Can't we just put him in a vat of Nair and then seal the lid ...and bury the vat?
Sedate him, shave him, try him, and execute him.
 @LockesChild and bury him with pork products!
sheeeeesh,,,,anything for publicity and delay I suppose,,,
SHave him, try him, and then give him a first class hanging !!!
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 @GeorgeG. Since when did the military start forcing chaplains to marry gay people?  Since when did they start forcing anyone to perform abortions? Â
 @DeadRabitz I think it was right after Obama forced every american to become a citizen of Kenya.Â
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 @Truth Percolates  @T H I S  @DeadRabitz I want my free stuff!!!!
! @T H I S  @DeadRabitz YUP most Republicans believe we are now Kenyans! I've also acquired the ability to run marathons in 100 degree weather. AND I can't wait until Kenyans start spreading their wealth with us but they said they were waiting for George Soros, Gates, Pelosi, most of Hollywood and other RICH Democrats to give them some of their money first so they would in turn have something to give. SO far those checks from RICH libs have not been coming into DC as planned for Obama to redistribute. As a newly minted Rep-Kenyan I demand my fair share!! It feels good to be Entitled to liberals money ...I'm slipping ...I'm starting to feel like I don't want or need to work, where is that free healthcare...where is the next OWS rally, I feel the need to destroy public property...to make sure my dead aunt votes for Obama again....Â
 @DeadRabitz Either that, or just stating what republicans actually beleive
 @T H I S Are you being sarcastic?
@GeorgeG. Wow, a little agenda of your own there.
Why don't they drop him off in Afghanistan with quick kick at about 5,000 feet....
For his crimes he should be taken out and shot. He wanted to please guilty than let him so they can execute him right away.
Dull razor and pig grease!
 @BocaBob I say cut him off at the shoulders.
Wax him.
@rockguy better yet shave it with a dull razor without gel.
@rockguy wax him In lava!
Gee, don't accidentally slip with that straight razor.
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This guy is due a fair trial and due process of the law since he's innocent until proven guilty. It's not like he killed a bunch of Americans and Soldiers with dozens of witnesses that saw him do it. Poor fellow.
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The military prevents beards. I know the Navy has since at least 1984. Shave him!
 @HonkeyCat Rule and Regulations... sorry dude you are still in the military and party to their rules... do not know if they still do executions via firing squad but for this mans actions he deserves the equal treatment he gave his victims 'without' the beard.... sharpen the straight razor, drug him and shave him!
Honest question:Â Is the shaving requirement just a military thing because I do not recall seeing this in other courtrooms...
He's a Major in the U.S. Army. Beards are prohibited per military regulation.
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One main reason is they prevent a good seal on a gas mask.Â
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 @HonkeyCat Well they have a guinea pig here to test that seal theory with this guy .. just make sure to remind him to breath deep....and if he doesn't die then break out the firing squad ...on a artillary range if the firing squad cannot be used...
@HonkeyCat  That's OK, the military doesn't use the gas chamber.
@DMTÂ Â All branches of the U.S. Military currently prohibit beards, although some mustaches are still allowed based on policies that were initiated during the period of World War I.
Beards can be authorized for health or religous reasons on a case by case basis. I'm thinking this guy probably won't get anyone in the US military to grant his request to grow a beard.
 @Mej47 I have figured that beards usually are not allowed during service, but whilst in jail? I suppose it's "until they let ya go?" :)
 @DMT my husband is hitting his 20 year mark in the Navy next month and the only time I have ever seen him in a beard is when he's on leave or when he is underway. They have to fill out a no-shave chit which allows them to not have to shave while on the boat however when they pull into port and before he leaves the boat, he has to shave. So there are exceptions however this monster should not be given such consideration.
 @LockesChild Thanks everyone for letting me know! :)
 @DMT Hasan is still in the service so is subject to all the rules and regulations of service members. When he is discharged, he will be free of those rules (though since his "discharge" will be by firing squad, I suspect growing a beard will not matter to him afterwards).
@DMT @Mej47 Being in jail does not change the rules.Â
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