MSNBC criticized for editing of gun hearing video
NEW YORK (AP) — MSNBC invited viewers Wednesday to draw their own conclusions about whether the parent of a Connecticut school shooting victim was heckled at a legislative hearing but didn't address criticism that it aired a deceptively edited video of the event.
The NBC-owned cable news network found itself under attack for its editing practices less than a year after three employees of NBC or an NBC-owned station lost their jobs over the editing of a 911 call in the Trayvon Martin case.
On Monday, MSNBC's Martin Bashir reported on hearing testimony given that day by Neil Heslin, whose 6-year-old son, Jesse, was killed last month in the elementary school massacre in Newtown, Conn.
In the hushed hearing room, Heslin said, "I ask if there's anybody in this room that can give me one reason or challenge this question: why anybody in this room needs to have ... one of these assault-type weapons or military weapons or high-capacity clips?"
Heslin paused for five seconds and looked around him. No one else spoke.
"Not one person can answer that question," he said.
Then, someone in the audience shouted: "The Second Amendment shall not be infringed."
After the audience was admonished by a legislator not to speak, Heslin said, "Anyway, we're all entitled to our own opinion, and I respect their opinions and thoughts, but I wish they'd respect mine and give it a little bit of thought."
Video aired by Bashir Monday omitted the challenge, depicting Heslin saying: "Why anybody in this room needs to have ... one of these assault-type weapons or military weapons." At that point, without any pause, the audience member's interjection about the Second Amendment was heard. Heslin's comment about respecting opinions was omitted.
The camera then focused on Bashir, who said, "a father's grief interrupted by the cries of a heckler."
The passage as aired by MSNBC received criticism for being deceptive.
"This is not how a legitimate, professional news organization operates," said Brent Bozell, founder of the Media Research Center, a conservative media watchdog. "MSNBC's relentless anti-gun advocacy is bad enough, but this is downright dishonest."
MSNBC spokeswoman Lauren Skowronski did not immediately address questions about why MSNBC made the changes or whether criticism that it was misleading is valid.
Bashir was out sick on Wednesday, but substitute anchor Ari Melber said Bashir had made note of questions about whether Heslin had been heckled. MSNBC then played an unedited video of the passage in question.
"Martin and others have called that interruption heckling," Melber said. "Some disagree. He wanted you to hear that in full so you can draw your own conclusions."
Melber said nothing on the air about the fact that it initially aired an edited portion of the video.
Last spring, NBC's "Today" show and its Miami station WTVJ aired versions of a police emergency call made by Florida neighborhood watch volunteer George Zimmerman that emphasized his identification of Trayvon Martin as a black man, before Zimmerman shot Martin. Zimmerman had given his description of Martin after a dispatcher asked about his race but that portion of the tape wasn't initially aired. NBC later apologized.
The NBC-owned cable news network found itself under attack for its editing practices less than a year after three employees of NBC or an NBC-owned station lost their jobs over the editing of a 911 call in the Trayvon Martin case.
On Monday, MSNBC's Martin Bashir reported on hearing testimony given that day by Neil Heslin, whose 6-year-old son, Jesse, was killed last month in the elementary school massacre in Newtown, Conn.
In the hushed hearing room, Heslin said, "I ask if there's anybody in this room that can give me one reason or challenge this question: why anybody in this room needs to have ... one of these assault-type weapons or military weapons or high-capacity clips?"
Heslin paused for five seconds and looked around him. No one else spoke.
"Not one person can answer that question," he said.
Then, someone in the audience shouted: "The Second Amendment shall not be infringed."
After the audience was admonished by a legislator not to speak, Heslin said, "Anyway, we're all entitled to our own opinion, and I respect their opinions and thoughts, but I wish they'd respect mine and give it a little bit of thought."
Video aired by Bashir Monday omitted the challenge, depicting Heslin saying: "Why anybody in this room needs to have ... one of these assault-type weapons or military weapons." At that point, without any pause, the audience member's interjection about the Second Amendment was heard. Heslin's comment about respecting opinions was omitted.
The camera then focused on Bashir, who said, "a father's grief interrupted by the cries of a heckler."
The passage as aired by MSNBC received criticism for being deceptive.
"This is not how a legitimate, professional news organization operates," said Brent Bozell, founder of the Media Research Center, a conservative media watchdog. "MSNBC's relentless anti-gun advocacy is bad enough, but this is downright dishonest."
MSNBC spokeswoman Lauren Skowronski did not immediately address questions about why MSNBC made the changes or whether criticism that it was misleading is valid.
Bashir was out sick on Wednesday, but substitute anchor Ari Melber said Bashir had made note of questions about whether Heslin had been heckled. MSNBC then played an unedited video of the passage in question.
"Martin and others have called that interruption heckling," Melber said. "Some disagree. He wanted you to hear that in full so you can draw your own conclusions."
Melber said nothing on the air about the fact that it initially aired an edited portion of the video.
Last spring, NBC's "Today" show and its Miami station WTVJ aired versions of a police emergency call made by Florida neighborhood watch volunteer George Zimmerman that emphasized his identification of Trayvon Martin as a black man, before Zimmerman shot Martin. Zimmerman had given his description of Martin after a dispatcher asked about his race but that portion of the tape wasn't initially aired. NBC later apologized.
We all know there is bias in the media but it is nice to see MSNBC being called out for reporting such bias as to border on propaganda. The main stream media have for so long issued their bias as fact that too many people in society have taken the stance that what's reported is truth. Now we have uninformed passives making decisions for all of society, when they don't know all the facts and they have a skewed vision of what reality is. Hence we have such a division on the gun control debate. We have people who know nothing about guns or gun ownership opposed to people who understand the issue isn't about the tool. There are roughly 50 million households with guns, for about 300 million guns in circulation, and the vast majority of these people will never commit a crime. Yet, the media would have you believe there is a sweeping wave of gun violence and try to paint all gun owners as being fanatics bordering on insanity.
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Where's all the loudmouth libs? Oh yes a silenced as usual when facts are involved.
I'm surprized that the libs didn't say this is a Fox news falsehood:)
 @HawkEye I am right here. Only half-lib, though. Fiscally conservative, socially liberal. And a gun owner. Plus a little bit "green". Not behind the ears, but you know "tree-hugger" style. But also an SUV driver - not cool. Hey, what's your question?
I think you're looking for the personals on Craig's List, LOL.
 There is very little real news left. It's all commentary written by executives of major "news" outlets and passed down the line to smaller news organizations. Local news still has some great reporting and yes, there are a few true journalists left out there on the major networks but they are outnumbered by talking heads by an enormous margin.
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People love being told what to think and how to think. Can you blame them? That's the basis of our public education system. Memorize what you're told and think how we tell you to. Sad.
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I'm obsessed 'n deranged
I have existed for years
But very little has changed
I'm the tool of the Government
And industry too
For I am destined to rule
And regulate you
I may be vile and pernicious
But you can't look away
I make you think I'm delicious
With the stuff that I say
I'm the best you can get
Have you guessed me yet?
I'm the slime oozin' out From your TV set
You will obey me while I lead you
And eat the garbage that I feed you
Until the day that we don't need you
Don't go for help . . . no one will heed you
Your mind is totally controlled
It has been stuffed into my mold
And you will do as you are told
Until the rights to you are sold
That's right, folks . . .Don't touch that dial
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Oozin' along on your livin' room floor
I am the slime from your video
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Whatever. No self respecting person would consider Bashir's show "news."Â
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I mean, if Fox News can call a lot of their shows "commentary" and get away with it, then people need to realize that 100% of MSNBC's shows are commentary shows. There is no "news" on MSNBC.Â
When someone asks a question, and then pauses, then asks it again after nobody answers... why is it wrong to answer with the truth? "The Second Amendment shall not be infringed." is a perfectly logical and legitimate answer to the question â unless you are the media. And the media's liberal agenda Juggernaut rolls on crushing all who stand in its path...
 @A Believer So why then is no one calling for the release of hand grenades? Rocket launchers? S.A.M.'s? etc. etc. etc. There already is controls on weapons that we all recognize as legitimate. If any control at all is "infringing on second amendment rights" I suggest actually making the argument. Call on the congress to release all military weapons into the hands of civilians. After all if you allow some weapons to be restricted, then you are setting a legal precedent to allow the government to restrict any type of weapon it sees fit. You can't have it both ways.
I agree, Our forefathers wanted us to be able to defend ourselves from tyranny of government. How can we do that when we are by far out-gunned. I say we lift all bans on all weapons so that we can live with the true intent of the 2nd amendment. Otherwise we ARE under the tyranny of the government.
Glad you brought it up.
BTW, I could have answered his question - don't know why people are shy about it, other than respect for what happened and wanting to be non-confrontational with someone who has been suffering the worst pain I can imagine. I know, not a heckling/media bias contribution - although it bothers me that gun ownership, especially AR ownership is somehow a non-liberal behavior.
I stopped watching NBC, CNN, ABC, CBS and FOX news along time ago. What is sad is that the same people claiming Fox is bias do not realize the other medias are too. Refreshing to see them called out.
Did you expect anything else from the "Liberal" controlled media?? Do you think this is the first time we have been told lie's?? The media will do anything to help thier messiah achieve his agenda. Im glad that these kind of lie's are being exposed. But I have a bad feeling its already to late.......
 @Busyhands All of the news medias practice these types of deceptions. Fox and others have been caught many times. Hannity is one of the worst.
With more and more media watchdog groups forming, our people watching our government more closely than ever, and the power of the internet and social networking, I have a feeling that being able to separate the truth from the lies is going to become easier and easier. That would also explain why our government is tapping into our internet and using D.H.S .excuses to monitor what we do online. They want to know just HOW far they can push the envelope without a backlash. Be on notice Big Brother.......YOU are being watched :)
Besides needing the money and talk about taxing it it's more for whose buy, sying , post what on the net.
And the libs are always whining about the evil FOX news while completely failing to recognize MSNBC and CNN as being equally slanted, just polar opposites. A real credibility issue yet trendy and swallowed deep here in this NW satellite office for Berkeley. Comical.
@HawkEye I am a lib and I stopped watching NBC, CNN, ABC, and CBS because they are just as bad as Fox News except NBC is worse. Try NPR as thy are the least bias, though I admit they do lean left, but they do a good job of providing both sides.
Komo does it all the time with years old SDP dashcam tapes.....
Goebbels would have been proud!
 @Rick4001CS I think Goebbels would have been even prouder over at fox hanging out with all the other right wingers and their lies.
MSNBC is still on the air?
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 @the unvarnished truth Yes, very troubling, I understand what you mean. The interesting part for me though, is the fact that you are about the most deceptive of anyone I know on this planet and you are pointing out the deception of others.
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Lets see, authoritarian, dismissive, deceptive, I'll bet you're a right winger huh? Time to slither, snake!
@T_BONE_WALKER Why the name calling, can't we have a civil debate?
 @gastoys It is well established and easy for you to check but, unvarnished doesnt debate. He only slings deception and then slithers off like a snake when he is faced with facts. No response, no rebuttal, just slithers like a snake and slings the same lies over again.Most of it is hogwash from his hero glenn beck.
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