Clear skies aid mountain manhunt for fugitive ex-cop

BIG BEAR LAKE, Calif. (AP) - Searchers took advantage Saturday of a break from recent stormy weather in their hunt for a former Los Angeles police officer suspected in three killings, patrolling a mountain resort town in heat-sensing copters and fanning out on foot in fresh snow even as vacationing families and weekend skiers frolicked nearby.
The stark blue skies that emerged after a Friday snowstorm allowed San Bernardino County sheriff's choppers to fly low over the forest and SWAT teams to look for tracks and other clues that might lead to Christopher Dorner, 33, whose burned out pickup truck was discovered Thursday in town.
Authorities suspect Dorner in a series of attacks in Southern California over the past several days that left three people dead, including a police officer. Authorities say he has vowed revenge against several former LAPD colleagues who he believed cost him his law enforcement career.
The intense manhunt Saturday didn't appear to bother the majority of tourists intent on enjoying the perfect winter weather, which made for strikingly odd contrasts: the sound of barking bloodhounds mixed with rap music blaring off the ski slopes; a family with kids strolling by a deputy, who was clad in full tactical gear and practicing his aim on a small snowdrift.
San Bernardino County sheriff's Det. Chad Johnson said he and others were intent on finding Dorner but also looking for other telltale signs of his whereabouts.
"There's a million clues in the mountain. You've just got to be patient to find them," Johnson said.
Johnson said the foot search includes mountainous areas that are very steep and high climbs that often end in cliffs.
"It's a challenging day of work," Johnson said.
The search was the third full day of the massive multi-agency effort now centered on this resort town about 80 miles northeast of downtown Los Angeles. Investigators continue to analyze the burned out truck discovered Thursday on a local road, and are trying and determine whether Dorner torched it or if it caught fire for other reasons.
Officers armed with semi-automatic weapons have been going door to door examining hundreds of vacant cabins, aware that they could be walking into a trap set by the well-trained former Navy reservist who knows their tactics and strategies.
"Christopher Dorner is probably one of the most dangerous fugitives that law enforcement has gone after in recent times," said Clint Van Zandt, former supervisor of FBI's profiling unit. "The challenge is, with his law enforcement and military background, he's very competent with weapons."
Sheriff's Det. Jeremiah MacKay, who began his patrol at 5 a.m. Saturday, said the operation was both massive and tactically complex.
"This one you just never know if the guy's going to pop out, or where he's going to pop out. We're hoping this comes to a close without more casualties. The best thing would be for him to give up," MacKay said.
Police said officers still were guarding more than 40 people mentioned as targets in a rant they said Dorner posted on Facebook. He vowed to use "every bit of small arms training, demolition, ordnance and survival training I've been given" to bring "warfare" to the LAPD and its families.
Dorner served in the Navy, earning a rifle marksman ribbon and pistol expert medal. He was assigned to a naval undersea warfare unit and various aviation training units, according to military records. He took leave from the LAPD for a six-month deployment to Bahrain in 2006 and 2007.
Last Friday was his last day with the Navy and also the day CNN's Anderson Cooper received a package that contained a note on it that read, in part, "I never lied." A coin riddled with bullet holes that former Chief William Bratton gave out as a souvenir was also in the package.
Police said it was a sign of planning by Dorner before the killing began.
On Sunday, police say Dorner shot and killed a couple in a parking garage at their condominium in Irvine. The woman was the daughter of a retired police captain who had represented Dorner in the disciplinary proceedings that led to his firing.
Dorner wrote in his manifesto that he believed the retired captain had represented the interests of the department over his.
Hours after authorities identified Dorner as a suspect in the double murder, police believe Dorner shot and grazed an LAPD officer in Corona and then used a rifle to ambush two Riverside police officers early Thursday, killing one and seriously wounding the other.
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Associated Press writers contributing to this report include Christopher Weber, Greg Risling, Haven Daley, Michael Blood, John Antczak, Mark Evans and Julie Watson.
The stark blue skies that emerged after a Friday snowstorm allowed San Bernardino County sheriff's choppers to fly low over the forest and SWAT teams to look for tracks and other clues that might lead to Christopher Dorner, 33, whose burned out pickup truck was discovered Thursday in town.
Authorities suspect Dorner in a series of attacks in Southern California over the past several days that left three people dead, including a police officer. Authorities say he has vowed revenge against several former LAPD colleagues who he believed cost him his law enforcement career.
The intense manhunt Saturday didn't appear to bother the majority of tourists intent on enjoying the perfect winter weather, which made for strikingly odd contrasts: the sound of barking bloodhounds mixed with rap music blaring off the ski slopes; a family with kids strolling by a deputy, who was clad in full tactical gear and practicing his aim on a small snowdrift.
San Bernardino County sheriff's Det. Chad Johnson said he and others were intent on finding Dorner but also looking for other telltale signs of his whereabouts.
"There's a million clues in the mountain. You've just got to be patient to find them," Johnson said.
Johnson said the foot search includes mountainous areas that are very steep and high climbs that often end in cliffs.
"It's a challenging day of work," Johnson said.
The search was the third full day of the massive multi-agency effort now centered on this resort town about 80 miles northeast of downtown Los Angeles. Investigators continue to analyze the burned out truck discovered Thursday on a local road, and are trying and determine whether Dorner torched it or if it caught fire for other reasons.
Officers armed with semi-automatic weapons have been going door to door examining hundreds of vacant cabins, aware that they could be walking into a trap set by the well-trained former Navy reservist who knows their tactics and strategies.
"Christopher Dorner is probably one of the most dangerous fugitives that law enforcement has gone after in recent times," said Clint Van Zandt, former supervisor of FBI's profiling unit. "The challenge is, with his law enforcement and military background, he's very competent with weapons."
Sheriff's Det. Jeremiah MacKay, who began his patrol at 5 a.m. Saturday, said the operation was both massive and tactically complex.
"This one you just never know if the guy's going to pop out, or where he's going to pop out. We're hoping this comes to a close without more casualties. The best thing would be for him to give up," MacKay said.
Police said officers still were guarding more than 40 people mentioned as targets in a rant they said Dorner posted on Facebook. He vowed to use "every bit of small arms training, demolition, ordnance and survival training I've been given" to bring "warfare" to the LAPD and its families.
Dorner served in the Navy, earning a rifle marksman ribbon and pistol expert medal. He was assigned to a naval undersea warfare unit and various aviation training units, according to military records. He took leave from the LAPD for a six-month deployment to Bahrain in 2006 and 2007.
Last Friday was his last day with the Navy and also the day CNN's Anderson Cooper received a package that contained a note on it that read, in part, "I never lied." A coin riddled with bullet holes that former Chief William Bratton gave out as a souvenir was also in the package.
Police said it was a sign of planning by Dorner before the killing began.
On Sunday, police say Dorner shot and killed a couple in a parking garage at their condominium in Irvine. The woman was the daughter of a retired police captain who had represented Dorner in the disciplinary proceedings that led to his firing.
Dorner wrote in his manifesto that he believed the retired captain had represented the interests of the department over his.
Hours after authorities identified Dorner as a suspect in the double murder, police believe Dorner shot and grazed an LAPD officer in Corona and then used a rifle to ambush two Riverside police officers early Thursday, killing one and seriously wounding the other.
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Associated Press writers contributing to this report include Christopher Weber, Greg Risling, Haven Daley, Michael Blood, John Antczak, Mark Evans and Julie Watson.
LAPD shot up another truck driven by a civilian thinking it was Dorner. Again, an easy mistake: this guy white, Dorner was black. Dorner weighs 100lbs more than this guy. Also, the truck was a different color and make. Easy to make this mistake. Fortunately for the driver the police missed him, unlike the 70+ year old hispanic woman they did hit thinking it was Dorner.
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Not to defend Dorner, but these LAPD sound like real azzh@ts.
The bunch of losers cropping out of the woodwork to support him on Facebook is ridiculous. I can't believe so many people want cops and their families murdered. Shows you the lack of common sense and understanding in our great nation.
 Maybe crap like Facebook is part of the problem...????
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@the unvarnished truth so you support a nutcase killing of family members of cops? You need to get your brains checked.
Their having a hard time finding him. They should examine the cell towers and zone in on his location through trianglzation. Just my 2 cents!
"...the well-trained former Navy reservist who knows their tactics and strategies." My understanding is that he fired "Marksman" with a rifle (which is average), and "expert" with a pistol. He had no special weapons training, nor any special opps training. Just the basics. They are trying to make it sound like this guy is some sort of Rambo, when he has just received the basic training that they all go through. What we have here is an ex-cop with some serious anger management problems. What we do not have here is some highly trained, special opps, Seal type. Just your average cop gone bad.  Â
 @oldster70 No but he's crazy enough that he has been researching tactics, got the home addresses of the people he hates (numerous,) their routes to work, their spouses and kids routes (that's how he murdered the daughter and her fiance of the man that represented him at the hearing.)  He has gotten the license plate numbers of all unmarked cars, etc.  He's not especially skilled, he is so motivated by paranoia and hate, that he has quietly amassed info that makes him even more dangerous. Â
This guy left his wallet in San Diego then ends up in Big Bear where he burns his vehicle diversion tactics to throw off the authorities....
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He got into another vehicle and took off.
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My guess is when he pops up again there will be more bodies to add to the body count and yes his will be one of them.
 @sunnysandiego Turns out his car broke an axle, and that's why he abandoned it (with a few AR15s in the trunk.  My thought is that he took off on foot and froze like a popsicle, or he carjacked someone who is not missed yet.  But the fact that he's not done anything, makes me think that  they'll find him under the snow soon. Â
The best side effect of this whole thing is that its costing the LAPD millions every day. Hopefully that means cutting more officers in the future and hopefully that means they start weeding out the corrupt ones. The battle of attrition has begun.
I'm thinkin I don't want him to go out the way he wants to - in a blaze of glory.
Catch him alive and let the system rot him out. He'll be good meat in prison...
 @Throbbinhood He's never going to be taken alive.
I am sure he will meet his end shortly.  I don't think the tax payers will have to pay for a trial and a long incarceration.
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 @the unvarnished truth They missed the white guy (killed his truck though).
Be self-controlled and alert. Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour.
 @Luke0walton Wow, that was dark.
@Isadora @Luke0walton That is truth. 1 Peter 5:8
Didn't the LAPD shoot two women mistakenly identified as Dorner? I guess I can understand the mistaken identification. Dorner is a black male, these were two hispanic women, one elderly. Easy to mistake one for the other.
 @Iconoclast God people are stupid. Did you read the story? or are you just mouthing off?  The women were shot, sadly, as they were in a similar truck.  It was 5am, still dark, and the police were guarding on of his targets.  The ladies deliver papers, and drive with their lights off...  they pulled into the driveway with the lights off, and that's when they got shot.  yes, it was a horrible accident, but to play it like it was some deliberate act is ridiculous.  This story brings out the idiots.Â
 @DT Did you fail to put your brain in gear when you responded? The point wasn't that it was a deliberate act. It verged on criminal incompetence by those LAPD officers.
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Yes, this story brings out the idiots. Welcome.
So do they post those billboards for every murderer and scum bag or just the ones that are threatening the cops...even though the cops signed up knowing it was a dangerous job?
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And why is it more appalling crime for the police that there is a "cop killer" instead of someone killing civilians?
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 @TJM Yes, they do post billboards like that in the most heinous crimes.  Guess you were too young to remember when serial killers were the thing.  The SAME resources were used to get the Hillside Strangler, the Night STalker, etc.  When that freak from Tacoma was shooting people back east, you can be sure it was the same level of priority.  Â
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Honestly, are you cop haters just trying to be obtuse? Â The police are the line between safety and absolutely lawlessness. Â Perhaps YOU and your libertarian pals would like to live in a community without police protection, but I don't. Â The reason why it's a bigger crime to kill a cop, is basically mathematics. Â You have one cop defending thousands of people (think about it, how many cops are on duty each night and how many people, per cop, are they defending?) Â You take out cops, and that is the last defense. Â Â Someone going around shooting them IS a big deal. Â But there is a damn good reason why you go ofter someone like that with everything you have. Â The man has already gunned down a woman and her fiance, and shot a few cops, killing one. Â Is this considered not a priority??Â
 @TJM "why is it more appalling crime for the police that there is a "cop killer" instead of someone killing civilians?" Its not. But Government always wants civilians to know their place in life (slave class).
@TJM Not that I completely buy into it but the theory is, If a suspect is willing to kill someone that "protects" the citizens, then nobody is safe. Sort of like an assault on one of the King's men is an assault on the King, as an assault on the public's officer is an assault on the public. I know there are several holes in this idea so please forgo the sharp retort.
 @whatifafrog Thank you for a lone voice of reason today...  Too many ignorant people have an ax to grind. They've been groomed by the right wing radio to hate and distrust the police, because they belong to unions (seriously, the have the same disdain for teachers and firefighters.)  The rest of them hate the police because of their own criminal past.  I can't even read these comments anymore.. they make me nauseous realizing how many awful people are out there now.. a bunch of angry old men who hate their lives, basically.Â
 @TJM The two innocent people gunned down in a parking garage weren't "civilians"?
"We have no officers alone right now."
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But they will pull a protective detail on a civilian under threat or don't even respond for hours if someone calls 911 because they feel threatened.
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So stupid.
 @TJM Yes TJ... let's make the actions of a murderous lunatic the police's fault eh? Police agencies are far from perfect, but really.... there's officers in heavy snow searching houses in the Big Bear right now knowing that they are looking for a guy intent on killing them when they find him. Seems there's some pretty courageous actions going on to me.
@TJM Soldiers have squads and teams that look after each other. They do have the same if not better protection. Some rest while others watch.
@TJM Pick up a badge and a gun if your'e so damn perfect. I don't condone the mistaken shooting, but I know for fact that depending on experience and exposure, cops and soldiers make mistakes under pressure. Even mistakes that cost lives. I would be interested in the training and background of the officers in the shooting. I knew a trained soldier who turned to pink mist because he thought there was a better place during an Arty strike than his shallow little hole, the other 32 didn't ge a scratch.
 @TruthinAdverts The officers sign on the dotted line when they are employed knowing that they face danger, that they are trained for that.
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They are there to PROTECT and serve CIVILIANS. Â They should not have extra consideration when their lives are in danger that the civilian population is not awarded.
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Get your head out of your ass. Â Their "courageous actions" are their JOB. Â
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A solider doesn't get special considerations while in a war zone because "someone is saying they want to hurt them", they already know that and go into battle to protect what America stands for anyways!
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 @burton  @TruthinAdverts  @TJM Stop it. They're just protecting and serving us from the possibility of crazy mexicans dellivering newspapers, they might have been terrorists.lol
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I found it very courageous when those two upstanding officers heroically emptied their magazines into the back of a truck and sent two Asian women to the hospital. Thankfully, one of them was paralyzed.
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Hopefully she'll think twice before daring to mind her own business in the future.
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Perhaps he has played the ultimate dirty trick and hooked his worthless butt to a big rock and threw it in the deep end of the lake. Law enforcement will be paranoid watching their back and spend millions looking for a good long time.
 @al_wa I'd be ok with that end result
I doubt he's in the mountains at all. This whole thing seems to be about "pay back" so he is going to be in town where he has access to the people he wants punished.
 @Petwlkr No it wasn't a plan. The axle on his car broke and was undrivable.  Now it's really anyone's guess where he is. Â
 @DT Thanks for the info on the broken axle. I hadn't heard that.
 @Petwlkr Cops are probably publicizing the search on purpose to make him think they're off his trail. He stated he knows their tactics, so they'll need to plan something unconventional to get his guard down.
His biggest weakness will be the attempt to contact someone. He's not a loner. He may not of prepared himself emotionally to be without human companions for an extended period and thats what gets most people on the run. He's left some pretty good false trails. He could be literally anywhere by now.
@Blindman Agreed. His military career is not that spectacular. The expert pistol badge is basically 50 hits out of 50 on a man sized target at ranges of 5 to 25 meters. Ordinance and demolitions training in sub and aviation units? Unless he's Navy Seal Steven Segal serving as a cook on an aircraft carrier; He's full of it. Judging from his jargon he was an S2-S3 guy. A planner or intel guy.
Maybe the bears got him.
 @Throbbinhood nah, i say hope he dies a slow painful death from the cold.
@beetle73 @Throbbinhood my bet too
 @Throbbinhood We can hope.