NYC looks to keep tobacco out of public view

NEW YORK (AP) - Walk into any convenience store or gas station in the country, and chances are the cigarettes will be in roughly the same spot: at eye level, right behind the cash register.
That's no coincidence. Tobacco companies have worked hard, and paid handsomely, to ensure that cigarette displays occupy the retail equivalent of prime real estate. In 2010 alone, the industry made $370 million in payments to retailers to help lock down prime shelving space, according to a report last year by the Federal Trade Commission. It spent an additional $107 million on in-store advertising.
"Every consumer-product goods manufacturer in the country wants to be there," said Kurt M. Ribisl, a professor at the University of North Carolina who studies tobacco marketing. "People making chips and Doritos and Pepsi - all of these companies want that space. But the tobacco industry wins."
Now, that supremacy could be in jeopardy in one of the nation's biggest cigarette markets.
New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg proposed a bill this week that would force retailers to keep cigarettes out of public view until a customer asks for a pack.
The rule would effectively require merchants to keep tobacco products in closed cabinets or drawers, rather than on the colorful displays, dubbed "power walls," that are familiar just about everywhere in the U.S.
A second bill would take aim at the system of discounts and incentives that manufacturers have long used to woo retail customers and keep merchants happy. It would ban coupons and buy-one-get-one-free promotions for tobacco products and eliminate deep discounts by creating a price floor for each pack.
It is too early to tell whether either measure will survive the legislative process or an almost-certain court challenge. Tobacco companies and convenience store owners have assailed both proposals as unfair and maybe unconstitutional. An industry lawsuit forced the New York village of Haverstraw to quickly rescind a similar ban enacted last April. The city of Providence, R.I., was sued over an anti-coupon ordinance, much like the one proposed in New York.
Even more unclear is whether the policy would actually lead to fewer people smoking.
A number of nations, including Ireland, Canada and Australia, have restricted retail tobacco displays, but most experts say the policies haven't been in place long enough to know whether they have had a strong impact.
Big immediate drops in sales are unlikely, said Ribisl, who favors tighter restriction on tobacco marketing. But he predicted that the display rules - and especially the new prohibitions on discounts and coupons - might lead to a modest reduction in smoking rates over time.
An FTC report last year said the industry gave $6.49 billion worth of price discounts to cigarette retailers and wholesalers in 2010.
"When you stop discounting and multipack specials, you are now thwarting the tobacco industry's ability to prey on low-income smokers," Ribisl said.
Scientists at the nonprofit research firm RTI International recently published the results of an experiment in which they had 1,200 young people take virtual shopping trips through computerized convenience stories. It found that kids were less likely to make fantasy purchases of cigarettes in shops where tobacco products were hidden in cabinets.
It is hard to say whether that type of simulation would repeat itself in real life, said Annice Kim, a social scientist who was involved in the project. But she said that one theory is that simply making a product less visible makes people less likely to make an impulse buy.
The New York supermarket chain Price Choppers decided on its own in 2006 to move its cigarette stocks off regular shelves and into closed cabinets that resemble refrigerator cases with frosted glass.
"We made a commitment not to entice the next generation of smokers," said company spokeswoman Mona Golub. "We visually muted the cases, so as not to entice kids."
Since then, sales have indeed declined, but she said the company doesn't know whether that is due to customers going elsewhere for their fix or maybe quitting because of other factors, such as a subsequent big increase in the state cigarette tax.
Some smokers familiar with New York City's proposed plan said they found it hard to believe it would make a difference.
Talking about the ban on a smoking break, Jonathan Davies, 24, and Roman Gayaram, 22, said they both started out filching cigarettes from their parents - and didn't start buying them in stores until later. Srujan Poshala, 27, an office worker on a cigarette break outside his midtown Manhattan office, noted that young people are exposed to smoking in many other ways.
"What big difference does it make?" he asked. "It's on magazine covers and everywhere. People smoke in movies."
City health officials have said that obscuring cigarettes at the point of sale might lead to fewer impulse buys by addicts trying to quit. That logic appealed to smoker Demian Menezes, 37, who said the visibility of packs at stores was indeed a temptation during a two-year period when he quit.
"You always have that 'Oh, my God - it's right there'... 'Pick me! Buy me! Smoke me!'" feeling, he said.
Like most of the other anti-smoking campaigns of recent decades, though, the primary goal of the display restrictions seems to be to send the message that smoking is simply no longer an acceptable social behavior but rather something to be hidden and shunned.
Opponents of the measure say it will only hassle smokers unnecessarily and make things more difficult for small businesses.
Tom Briant, executive director of the National Association of Tobacco Outlets, said it would cost around $2,500 for the average business to buy the display cases needed to comply with the law.
"It puts a lot of question marks on how you sell one of your major categories," said Jeff Lenard, a vice president at the National Association of Convenience Stores. "It's not an easy time to be in business right now."
That's no coincidence. Tobacco companies have worked hard, and paid handsomely, to ensure that cigarette displays occupy the retail equivalent of prime real estate. In 2010 alone, the industry made $370 million in payments to retailers to help lock down prime shelving space, according to a report last year by the Federal Trade Commission. It spent an additional $107 million on in-store advertising.
"Every consumer-product goods manufacturer in the country wants to be there," said Kurt M. Ribisl, a professor at the University of North Carolina who studies tobacco marketing. "People making chips and Doritos and Pepsi - all of these companies want that space. But the tobacco industry wins."
Now, that supremacy could be in jeopardy in one of the nation's biggest cigarette markets.
New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg proposed a bill this week that would force retailers to keep cigarettes out of public view until a customer asks for a pack.
The rule would effectively require merchants to keep tobacco products in closed cabinets or drawers, rather than on the colorful displays, dubbed "power walls," that are familiar just about everywhere in the U.S.
A second bill would take aim at the system of discounts and incentives that manufacturers have long used to woo retail customers and keep merchants happy. It would ban coupons and buy-one-get-one-free promotions for tobacco products and eliminate deep discounts by creating a price floor for each pack.
It is too early to tell whether either measure will survive the legislative process or an almost-certain court challenge. Tobacco companies and convenience store owners have assailed both proposals as unfair and maybe unconstitutional. An industry lawsuit forced the New York village of Haverstraw to quickly rescind a similar ban enacted last April. The city of Providence, R.I., was sued over an anti-coupon ordinance, much like the one proposed in New York.
Even more unclear is whether the policy would actually lead to fewer people smoking.
A number of nations, including Ireland, Canada and Australia, have restricted retail tobacco displays, but most experts say the policies haven't been in place long enough to know whether they have had a strong impact.
Big immediate drops in sales are unlikely, said Ribisl, who favors tighter restriction on tobacco marketing. But he predicted that the display rules - and especially the new prohibitions on discounts and coupons - might lead to a modest reduction in smoking rates over time.
An FTC report last year said the industry gave $6.49 billion worth of price discounts to cigarette retailers and wholesalers in 2010.
"When you stop discounting and multipack specials, you are now thwarting the tobacco industry's ability to prey on low-income smokers," Ribisl said.
Scientists at the nonprofit research firm RTI International recently published the results of an experiment in which they had 1,200 young people take virtual shopping trips through computerized convenience stories. It found that kids were less likely to make fantasy purchases of cigarettes in shops where tobacco products were hidden in cabinets.
It is hard to say whether that type of simulation would repeat itself in real life, said Annice Kim, a social scientist who was involved in the project. But she said that one theory is that simply making a product less visible makes people less likely to make an impulse buy.
The New York supermarket chain Price Choppers decided on its own in 2006 to move its cigarette stocks off regular shelves and into closed cabinets that resemble refrigerator cases with frosted glass.
"We made a commitment not to entice the next generation of smokers," said company spokeswoman Mona Golub. "We visually muted the cases, so as not to entice kids."
Since then, sales have indeed declined, but she said the company doesn't know whether that is due to customers going elsewhere for their fix or maybe quitting because of other factors, such as a subsequent big increase in the state cigarette tax.
Some smokers familiar with New York City's proposed plan said they found it hard to believe it would make a difference.
Talking about the ban on a smoking break, Jonathan Davies, 24, and Roman Gayaram, 22, said they both started out filching cigarettes from their parents - and didn't start buying them in stores until later. Srujan Poshala, 27, an office worker on a cigarette break outside his midtown Manhattan office, noted that young people are exposed to smoking in many other ways.
"What big difference does it make?" he asked. "It's on magazine covers and everywhere. People smoke in movies."
City health officials have said that obscuring cigarettes at the point of sale might lead to fewer impulse buys by addicts trying to quit. That logic appealed to smoker Demian Menezes, 37, who said the visibility of packs at stores was indeed a temptation during a two-year period when he quit.
"You always have that 'Oh, my God - it's right there'... 'Pick me! Buy me! Smoke me!'" feeling, he said.
Like most of the other anti-smoking campaigns of recent decades, though, the primary goal of the display restrictions seems to be to send the message that smoking is simply no longer an acceptable social behavior but rather something to be hidden and shunned.
Opponents of the measure say it will only hassle smokers unnecessarily and make things more difficult for small businesses.
Tom Briant, executive director of the National Association of Tobacco Outlets, said it would cost around $2,500 for the average business to buy the display cases needed to comply with the law.
"It puts a lot of question marks on how you sell one of your major categories," said Jeff Lenard, a vice president at the National Association of Convenience Stores. "It's not an easy time to be in business right now."
First it was Playboy, and now cigarettes. What will they hide next?
I always thought that I might like to visit NYC some day. Now I can save the money, because I have no desire to visit a city run by this wack job.
New York City's problem, not ours. Doesn't have a shot in you know where of becoming our president, so relax.
Bloomberg first wanted BIIG GULP banned, confiscation of weapons, now tobacco products out of sight.???????
 This guy also wants to be PRESIDENT. He has the finances to make a run and possibably succede. Anyone here see a pattern??This guy is dangerous, and along with his backers FINESTINE, SCHUMER, HILLERY, OBAMA etc. I see an allstar team for the downfall of this country. A total authoritarian government. Â
@wire rope, I read this and thought, "If anyone needed more proof that Bloomberg was a dangerous control freak nut job, well, here it is."
I too thought about his attempt to ban the 'Big Gulp' and his desire for a total gun ban. How can anyone take him seriously? He's nuttier than a squirrel turd. So are Feinstein and Schumer. Â
Way to go NYC! Put your head in the sand and the problem will go away.
Just hang all the doritos and donuts there... until those are illegal too
$13 for a back of Marbs? God, I'm glad I quit smoking a while ago.....
Hiding cigarettes from people isn't going to entice them to quit smoking. How stupid can one person be?Â
@Tattooed_Angel2 ABOUT as stupid as Bloomberg, however, Feinstein is pulling a real close second.
Id like 3 packs of smokes with my 2 48 oz cola drinks. whaaaaaaa the , why are you handcuffing me , OMG its the Nanny bloomburg police. No, 1 + 1 does not equal 3  aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh The rat the rat........!
Who wants to bet me that Bloomberg has a swastica tattooed on his chest? This guy is about as close to "Nanny Hitler" as someone can get, and the scary part? A lot of those "serving" in our government think JUST like him. Zeig Heil.
This coming from the same mayor king Bloomberg that tried to ban sugared sodas above 16 ounces. He did not put provisions in the ban saying you could just drink one. I understand what he is trying to do but he is doing it at the cost of consumers. The people who fought the drink ban have put the legal costs on the consumer.
This cigarette hiding is not going to solve anything. Retailers will lose money from not being able to get top dollars for the spot behind the counter and smokers are just going to ask for the cigarettes. If smokers don't feel ashamed smoking outside in public for all to see do you think they are going to feel ashamed asking for cigarettes inside a store?
Smokers got to smoke. It is a habit that in most people takes a serious attempt to quit. I have never smoked more than a pack of cigarettes in my life but I have lived with smokers my whole life. I know what they go through and I know that most will not quit because you make it harder for them to find their fix. Life for a smoker is already hard with bans on all public indoor space and now a lot of outdoor space is also banned.
This is just another idiotic proposal coming from a mayor who wishes he was king. If there was ever a poster child for a billionaire that wants to rule over lesser people he is it. He just feels that everyone who has less money then he does has to follow his rule. Pretty soon he will be claiming his droit du seigneur.
If those New Yoke prices don't scare you, don't see how playing Houdini with the display will. Dopey Progressives. Probably the mobsters paid off the Mayor so they can sell those untaxed/stolen cigarettes Henry Hill Style at the factory (ha!) gate.
"Duh, I don't see cigarettes, I don't know what to do. Duh. OK, I'll have a soda. Whadya mean, I'm under arrest? What kind of police state is this, copper?"
@Getov Mylon  Cigarettes are cheaper in California than here, which I always thought was strange. When I lived in NYC, they were about 10 dollars a pack. But when you consider that people pay 5 dollars for a coffee drink, I guess it's all in how you look at it.Â
@lakeview "...a coffee drink..."
Hey! Don't give them any ideas! That's likely next on the agenda.Â
They can have my Kirkland Signature Columbia Blend when they pry it from my...
@Getov Mylon Control at its finest... Nanny state! Similar to here....