New details emerge a week after school massacre
NEWTOWN, Conn. (AP) - As the nation paused to mark a week since the shootings at Sandy Hook Elementary School, new details emerged Friday about the gunman, Adam Lanza, who acquaintances said was able to take apart and reassemble a computer in a matter of minutes but rarely spoke to anyone.
In high school, Lanza used to slither through the hallways, awkwardly pressing himself against the wall while wearing the same green shirt and khaki pants every day. He hardly ever talked to classmates and once gave a presentation entirely by computer, never uttering a single word.
"As long as I knew him, he never really spoke," said Daniel Frost, who took a computer class with Lanza and remembered his skill with electronics.
Lanza seemed to spend most of his time in his own large space in the basement of the home he shared with his mother - the same basement where she kept a collection of guns, said Russell Ford, a friend of Nancy Lanza's who had done chimney and pipe work on the house.
A week ago, Lanza fatally shot his mother before blasting his way into the school, killing 20 children and six teachers with a military style rifle. As police approached, he used a handgun to commit suicide.
Multiple funerals and visitations were held Friday as the community and the nation continued to mourn the lives lost at Sandy Hook. At the hour of the attack, 9:30 a.m., a bell tolled 26 times, once for each victim killed at the school.
Nancy Lanza was often seen around town and regularly chatted up friends and acquaintances at a local restaurant, but her 20-year-old son was a mysterious figure who was seldom spotted in this community of rolling hills and clapboard colonial homes, according to Ford and other townspeople.
The basement of the Lanza home was fully carpeted and had artwork, including a picture of a horse, on the walls. There was a computer, a flat-screen television, couches and an elaborate setup for video games. Nancy Lanza kept her guns in what appeared to be a secure case in another part of the basement, Ford said.
"She was from gun culture. Live free or die. That was truly her upbringing," said Ford, who often met the New Hampshire native and other friends at a regular Tuesday gathering at My Place, a local restaurant.
Ford did not know if Lanza brought her son shooting.
During the past year and a half, Ford said, Nancy Lanza had told him that she planned to move out West and enroll Adam in a "school or a center." The plan started unfolding after Adam turned 18.
"He wouldn't be dwelling with her," said Ford, who remembered that Adam Lanza never spoke to him or even made eye contact.
"She knew she needed to be near him," he added. "She was trying to do what was positive for him."
Ford said Nancy Lanza didn't elaborate on what type of services she wanted her son to receive. He hadn't seen her in about a month and a half, and said she made fewer appearances at the restaurant in recent months.
Mark Tambascio, owner of My Place, said Nancy Lanza described the same plan to him, saying she might move to Washington State.
Back in high school, Frost recalled, Lanza once made a class presentation about how to change the folders in Microsoft Windows different colors. He did it without saying a word, just demonstrating the steps on a screen.
Someone in the class brought in a video game called "Counter-Strike," a first-person shooting video game in which players compete against each other as either terrorists or counter-terrorists, Frost said.
Lanza "seemed pretty interested in the game," Frost recalled, and would play it with other students. He remembers the weapons Lanza chose: an M4 military-style assault rifle and a Glock handgun.
During the rampage at the school, Lanza used a military-style assault rifle and carried handguns, authorities said.
A week after the massacre, authorities still have no clear reason why Lanza would lash out at defenseless first-graders and their caretakers.
State police spokesman Lt. J. Paul Vance said it is too soon to draw any conclusions. A final report on the investigation could be months away.
Lanza destroyed the hard drive of his computer before the attack, and investigators have been unable to retrieve any information from it, according to a person briefed on the case.
And while they haven't given up, they aren't confident they will be able to repair it, the person said, speaking on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to discuss the case publicly.
A moment of silence was held Friday in remembrance of those killed at the school. Gov. Dannel P. Malloy gathered with other officials in rain and wind on the steps of the Edmond Town Hall as the bell rang. Officials didn't make any formal remarks, and similar commemorations took place throughout the country.
Also on Friday, the National Rifle Association spoke out for the first time since the shootings, calling for armed police officers to be stationed at schools to stop the next killer "waiting in the wings."
Wayne LaPierre, CEO of the nation's largest gun-rights lobbing group, said at a Washington news conference that "the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun."
LaPierre blamed video games, music and videos for exposing children to violence.
The founder of a video game website said he expects tens of thousands of players of online shooter games to participate in a 24-hour cease-fire that started at noon Friday. Antwand Pearman, founder of GamerFitNation, said the cease-fire is meant to show respect for those killed in the Newtown shooting. He said, however, that video games don't cause violence.
At the memorial services, a school psychologist who rushed toward the gunman was remembered as a caring professional, a passionate fan of the Miami Dolphins and a woman who ultimately put the lives of others ahead of her own.
One of Mary Sherlach's friends donned a Dan Marino jersey for his eulogy at her funeral, which drew a standing-room-only crowd to St. Stephen Roman Catholic Church in Trumbull.
The church was adorned with a Christmas tree and several wreaths and bouquets, including one with the teal, white and orange colors of the Dolphins.
Rev. Stephen Gleason said Sherlach's love was Christ-like.
"No one has greater love than to give one's life for his friends," he said. "And she did so in an attempt to save others."
Five other victims from Sandy Hook had services or calling hours scheduled on Friday.
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Associated Press writers Matt Apuzzo in Washington and Pat Eaton-Robb in Newtown contributed to this report.
In high school, Lanza used to slither through the hallways, awkwardly pressing himself against the wall while wearing the same green shirt and khaki pants every day. He hardly ever talked to classmates and once gave a presentation entirely by computer, never uttering a single word.
"As long as I knew him, he never really spoke," said Daniel Frost, who took a computer class with Lanza and remembered his skill with electronics.
Lanza seemed to spend most of his time in his own large space in the basement of the home he shared with his mother - the same basement where she kept a collection of guns, said Russell Ford, a friend of Nancy Lanza's who had done chimney and pipe work on the house.
A week ago, Lanza fatally shot his mother before blasting his way into the school, killing 20 children and six teachers with a military style rifle. As police approached, he used a handgun to commit suicide.
Multiple funerals and visitations were held Friday as the community and the nation continued to mourn the lives lost at Sandy Hook. At the hour of the attack, 9:30 a.m., a bell tolled 26 times, once for each victim killed at the school.
Nancy Lanza was often seen around town and regularly chatted up friends and acquaintances at a local restaurant, but her 20-year-old son was a mysterious figure who was seldom spotted in this community of rolling hills and clapboard colonial homes, according to Ford and other townspeople.
The basement of the Lanza home was fully carpeted and had artwork, including a picture of a horse, on the walls. There was a computer, a flat-screen television, couches and an elaborate setup for video games. Nancy Lanza kept her guns in what appeared to be a secure case in another part of the basement, Ford said.
"She was from gun culture. Live free or die. That was truly her upbringing," said Ford, who often met the New Hampshire native and other friends at a regular Tuesday gathering at My Place, a local restaurant.
Ford did not know if Lanza brought her son shooting.
During the past year and a half, Ford said, Nancy Lanza had told him that she planned to move out West and enroll Adam in a "school or a center." The plan started unfolding after Adam turned 18.
"He wouldn't be dwelling with her," said Ford, who remembered that Adam Lanza never spoke to him or even made eye contact.
"She knew she needed to be near him," he added. "She was trying to do what was positive for him."
Ford said Nancy Lanza didn't elaborate on what type of services she wanted her son to receive. He hadn't seen her in about a month and a half, and said she made fewer appearances at the restaurant in recent months.
Mark Tambascio, owner of My Place, said Nancy Lanza described the same plan to him, saying she might move to Washington State.
Back in high school, Frost recalled, Lanza once made a class presentation about how to change the folders in Microsoft Windows different colors. He did it without saying a word, just demonstrating the steps on a screen.
Someone in the class brought in a video game called "Counter-Strike," a first-person shooting video game in which players compete against each other as either terrorists or counter-terrorists, Frost said.
Lanza "seemed pretty interested in the game," Frost recalled, and would play it with other students. He remembers the weapons Lanza chose: an M4 military-style assault rifle and a Glock handgun.
During the rampage at the school, Lanza used a military-style assault rifle and carried handguns, authorities said.
A week after the massacre, authorities still have no clear reason why Lanza would lash out at defenseless first-graders and their caretakers.
State police spokesman Lt. J. Paul Vance said it is too soon to draw any conclusions. A final report on the investigation could be months away.
Lanza destroyed the hard drive of his computer before the attack, and investigators have been unable to retrieve any information from it, according to a person briefed on the case.
And while they haven't given up, they aren't confident they will be able to repair it, the person said, speaking on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to discuss the case publicly.
A moment of silence was held Friday in remembrance of those killed at the school. Gov. Dannel P. Malloy gathered with other officials in rain and wind on the steps of the Edmond Town Hall as the bell rang. Officials didn't make any formal remarks, and similar commemorations took place throughout the country.
Also on Friday, the National Rifle Association spoke out for the first time since the shootings, calling for armed police officers to be stationed at schools to stop the next killer "waiting in the wings."
Wayne LaPierre, CEO of the nation's largest gun-rights lobbing group, said at a Washington news conference that "the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun."
LaPierre blamed video games, music and videos for exposing children to violence.
The founder of a video game website said he expects tens of thousands of players of online shooter games to participate in a 24-hour cease-fire that started at noon Friday. Antwand Pearman, founder of GamerFitNation, said the cease-fire is meant to show respect for those killed in the Newtown shooting. He said, however, that video games don't cause violence.
At the memorial services, a school psychologist who rushed toward the gunman was remembered as a caring professional, a passionate fan of the Miami Dolphins and a woman who ultimately put the lives of others ahead of her own.
One of Mary Sherlach's friends donned a Dan Marino jersey for his eulogy at her funeral, which drew a standing-room-only crowd to St. Stephen Roman Catholic Church in Trumbull.
The church was adorned with a Christmas tree and several wreaths and bouquets, including one with the teal, white and orange colors of the Dolphins.
Rev. Stephen Gleason said Sherlach's love was Christ-like.
"No one has greater love than to give one's life for his friends," he said. "And she did so in an attempt to save others."
Five other victims from Sandy Hook had services or calling hours scheduled on Friday.
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Associated Press writers Matt Apuzzo in Washington and Pat Eaton-Robb in Newtown contributed to this report.
"Lanza destroyed the hard drive of his computer before the attack, and investigators have been unable to retrieve any information from it, according to a person briefed on the case." I'd say he probably shot the hard drive after he shot his mother, or bludgeoned it with a hammer. It's a detail that will probably go unreported.
A lot of the blame goes to the mother for having guns available to a kid she knew was unstable.
Sounds like mom waited 18 years before doing something about her son....maybe we need to ban moms, not guns.
He was completely different than the other kids at school and stuck out like a sore thumb. He was not even known to speak and slithered down the hallways with his back against the wall... but they can't figure out why he would have animosity towards normal children? I would guess he had a lot of wounds from his school days and frustration at being different. It makes me wonder if he would have been better off at a special school more geared to his issues.
funny how we haven't heard the REAL STORY YET... people who were there tell a very different version... he DID NOT HAVE AN ASSAULT WEAPON inside the school..it was merely in a car in the parking lot...what about the other 2 people arrested outside ? don't hear much about that do we...for some reason this is being manipulated and carefully orchestrated in its release to the public... almost has a 911 feel to it...
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parents nowa days r encouraged to get kids in to a routine but that sets u up for a easy target for stalkers. if he had a condition, then breaking his routine could of messed him up.sure they could have a mental health worker come to the home time to time, im sure it could be a start for parents in the future with kids with conditions.
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Planning to move some where out west. Given that all Adam Lanza knew was this home, and that everything he knew and understood was there, he could not really accept moving far away. Another is that he would also not be exactly living "with" his Mother, may not have been all that easy for him to accept either. Given that there may have been something more that we have as of yet understood, thus not really knowing in concern to his 'mental health', he may have been facing a crisis moment of his own, and finally exploded against it. He may have well felt that he was being betrayed by his Mother, thus he killed her first, before going off in a rampage.
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Ok, I know that I am not an expert, nor even educated in the psychiatric sciences, but I have worked amongst psychiatric individuals for a period to have learned a few things and am now only tossing out my own view such as it is.
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As for a "gun ban", ain't gonna ever happen, at least in my lifetime. But two things will have to looked into. Gun regulations, and the treatment for people with mental health issues both need to be reviewed and upgraded a lot.And having armed guards from the police in every school is not an option that either the police nor the schools can afford, and people will not desire to pay more taxes to do.
@WSims007  According to other reports, she was pressuring him to find a job, go to school, and spend more time out of the house. One article said that she hadn't spoken to him in a few days. I think there was more going on than him being upset about a possible move.  Â
There is no reason to blame some one after the fact. As far as his mother or anyone else knew, her son was harmless. He had no prior incidents with violence. She could not tell the future. I would imagine that every single family in America has some family member that is a little odd, but you can't punish someone for what they might do. Maybe schools should not have glass doors that can be shot out, maybe if a door is breached an alarm can go off and teachers can lock their class room doors from the inside, assault rifles can be banned, and maybe our country can do more to treat the mentally ill.
 @jd94b Do you honestly think that banning assault rifles is going to change anything.  There are assault rifles out there, and if you really want one you can get one all you need is money or you can steel one.  You can't really ban them realistically.  It's like banning heroin, people are still going to get their hands on it if they really want it.
 @keri555 Well it might have lessened the body count had he only been able to get one shot off at a time.
LOTS of reports that the 'rifle' was in the trunk (was a shotgun BTW). He used the Glock & the SIG handguns, according to one of the chilren evacuated from the school. NBC even redacted thier intial report & stated no rifle was used.
 @jd94b  @keri555 He was only able to get off one shot at a time.He did not have any fully automatic weapons. All semi autos do is fire 1 round and chamber another round with every pull of the trigger. Stop listening to the media and others who know nothing about guns.
His mom knew he was crazy and still thought it was a great idea to keep an arsenal of guns in the house. If you want to blame someone, blame her, the "responsible gun owner."
 @lakeview No, the mother knew he was disabled, "Autistic" or having "Asperger's" is what he had, she likely didn't even consider that anything else might have been going on.
Its funny how everyone wants to blame someone. Has anyone considered the fact that maybe this kid was just plain evil?
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I like how KOMO focuses on the guns he chose in the game as if there were some connectiion there.
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Here is my advice to the media: you have done nothing but embarrassed yourselves over this story. The town of Newton doesn't want you there and the citizens of America are tires of your embarrassing, pathetic attempt at a "news story." Save yourself further embarrassment and stop reporting on this.
Here we go with the video games again. My son (22) plays 'violent' video games all the time. I've never seen him hurt anyting in my life. Well, there were those days when he was little and used a squirt gun filled with saltwater on slugs. You can blame that one on me. BAD Dad!
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KOMO - PLEASE take this creep's picture off of the article and the front page. I don't care what you replace it with, though pictures honoring the victims would be nice. This guy WANTED to be famous. Please don't give him his moment in the sun. I know he's dead, but what about the copycats?
I am surprised the media and the government are blaming everything under the sun except mental illness. You can ban all the guns and games you want. It won't solve the lack of facilities and affordable care available for people with mental illness.
 @Vince He didn't have a mental illness per say, they say he had Aspergers, which they just took out of the DSM books.  Autism and Aspergers aren't really mental illness, but more of a social disfunction.  You all can let your kids play these violent video games if you wish and be in denial that they have anything to do with this.  Of course some kids will be effected and some won't but the real question I have is , why would you want your kid playing a violent video game anyway?  How could that be a positive thing for your child to be doing?  I think it's important to address the issue that there was no father figure living in the home.  A single mom and a child with these issues is a really tough mix.  Dads are there to keep son's in line, to teach them skills like working on cars, cutting firewood, helping with work around the house, basically how to be a man.  These kids with autism and aspergers really need this, and to channel their energy into positive things not video games.  Some of the most brilliant (Albert Einstein) people were suspected to have Aspergers or Autism, unfortunately some of the most diabolical minds as well (Jeffrey Dommers).  Young minds are cultivated by their environment and if their environment is a virtual world and they are antisocial to begin with, they will withdraw into that world even more and eventually they will not know one world from the other.
 @keri555 That Aspbergers had anything to do with this is complete BS. Stop spreading misinformation. He may have had Aspbergers but there was something seriously wrong with him outside of Austism. He also may have been left-handed and didn't like carrots - but that has nothing to do with him being a serial killer. And where did you get the Jeffrey Dahmer was autistic - and I don't mean conjecture I mean proven fact? I really wish that commenting was not allowed for people who spread such ridiculous misinformation - god forbid someone equally stupid believes you.
@keri555 - you missed me at the part about the Dad, the cars, the firewood and helping with work around the house line. Some 'Dad's aren't fit to be around their sons or daughters no matter how brilliant they are with the cars, firewood, etc. As for the other, where do you get your information about Einstein and Dahmer? (not Dommers).Â
@keri55 - thanks for putting more info :)  I actually do agree with you about a father or father figure. Don't believe everything people tell you about a boy not talking until he's 3 or 4 - they are boys, (and for others reading this - no, I don't think boys are dumb, they just do not communicate at the level girls do. I'm not sure about Dahmer being autistic but I did read where his father (a mortician)  took him into where he did the body preparation for embalming when that boy was 3 or 4 and on up - plus if I remember correctly, the father even had bottles of body parts hanging around either the basement or the funeral home. You never know what goes through a child's mind - something you might think is 'innocent' can make a huge impact on a young child's mind. Some boys are quiet and I kind of suspect this Dahmer was - not that I believe what he did was right by any stretch but I have to wonder if seeing all that type of stuff at such a young age might have twisted his mind. Sometimes I also wonder if some of these mentally ill children don't inherit from one or both parents? We don't always know what goes on in some of these seemingly 'normal' homes. That's been found out many a time.
 @Elaine2  @keri555 If you look up famous autistic people Einstein comes up on the list and it is a known fact he didn't talk until he was I think 4.  There is a book called the Einstein Syndrome that outlines the some of the characteristic of Einstein that resemble autism diagnosis in this day and age.  Read any bio on Dahmer (thanks for the correction) I am kind of glad I don't know how to spell his name actually, and it will tell you he was socially inept and suspected Aspergers.  The father figure part didn't specify whether or not it had to be the biological dad.  These kids with social disfunction really need a lot of help and a father figure in my opinion is key.  They need someone to really help channel their talents.  I am a mother of two kids who don't talk and they are approaching 3 and 4, people have told me my boys may be autistic.  I would be in big trouble with these two discipline wise if it wasn't for my husband.  The older they get the bigger they get and if they were to be violent they need a man or someone of authority.  I am just really talking about some special needs kids, who need the extra time from their parents, whether it be a biological dad, I feel they need a father figure. Â
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Sorry, but this may be your fantasy/ideal "father figure. In the real world, many times it is not even close. I am the one who taught my son all the things you mention - his Dad was compleely disassociated & disinterested in spending time with my son, as well as being a mental & physical abuser. I finally left when my son started elementary school, while making the vow to NEVER go back (many DV victims return to their abusers when they cannot make it on their own). I had many "positive" male influences in his life who helped teach him how to become a "good man"..
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 @LocalLady I said it was a tough mix, not impossible.  Do you not agree it was tough to teach him all those things?  Father figure does not necessarily mean Biological Father.  I'm not in fantasy my dear, I am in reality land and I was too a single mother who's son's father wasn't worth a darn.  I held out for a good one and now havw three other children to make a total of 4.  When a boy gets to a certain age, his mother is not going to physically be able to stop him from doing things and if he wants he can over power her.  If the child is violent it obviously can be deadly.  I am not sure what you are arguing with me about.
@LocalLady And I will bet my next two pay checks you have done a super job at raising you kids. Brovo! Yes it is ideal to raise a kid with a mom and dad in a perfect world. But last i checked this spining rock is less than perfect. My hat is off to you for being a great mom.
@Vince So I assume the Republicans will happily fund the 4 to 8 billion (depending on who you talk to) EVERY YEAR it will cost to put a police officer at each school?Â
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 @lakeview you mean the one that still happened during an ASSAULT WEAPONS BAN?
 @Vince Easier and more convenient to blame guns. Duh. :)
 @Melissa Angevine  @Vince Cheaper too.
Enough blame to go around. Anti-gun lobby blames guns and their availability. This has been another opportunity to raise that flag again. Unguarded schools blamed by the NRA. Obviously the mentally/emotionally troubled folks who won't /can't get needed help, snap, and become political pawns in the aftermath of some terrible event that without them, would never have happened. Mental help becomes futile when mental health care providers start siding with anti-gun issues. Is personal responsibility highlighted? No. Those who advocate gun responsibility are blamed as having "blood on their hands". Nothing about mentally ill people who do this kind of thing without explanation. So the mentally ill could be treated but never cured. Even read some guy who tried to paint a picture of terror of teens with ready access to firearms. Right. Guns have always been available. By the time my friends and I were 14, we'd all had our own or had access to the families shotguns and rifles and no mayhem occurred. There was no such thing as a gun safe back then, but now I keep my valuables, including my guns, secured in one. Kids have changed. More violent. Less consequences.
@johnbe= Very well said.
Well said. Kids today are taught at home and in school that there are no consequences. They also think that under achievement should earn them so sort of award. They aren't equipped to handle let down or failure. When something does go wrong in their lives, they look to place blame others and they lash out; and this is what happens all too often.  It's not an issue of guns, it's a societal issue and the fact that we have lost our sense of responsibilty and respect.Â
Maybe I'm just ignoring the fact that the reality of today is more about the way kids are today than the way it was when I was young. The 14 yr old (or whatever age) of my day isn't the 14 yr old of today. This guy was 20. When I was that age, I was serving my country.
"Lanza could take apart and reassemble a computer in a matter of minutes." Oh boy, a real Da Vinci right here, guys! Half of males, aged 18-30 years can do this, with their eyes closed. It's the equivalent of building a ten piece Lego set; not exactly challenging. In fact, I can probably reseat ram, swap power supplies, toss in a video card/sound card/network card, install a hard drive and thermal paste and install a CPU, etc. in less than a minute if it's a race. I'm sick of them painting this guy as some sort of misunderstood, autistic genius and this is coming from someone with Asperger's.Â
thank goodness they never made it out here...
Its a very very rare tragic event. There is no need to look into this more. It's not video games, not guns, but it was a lack of good judgment on the mothers behalf and this kid needed mental help and didn't receive. An armed guard or armed teacher could have lowered the count but regardless this unstable kid would have found a way to inflict pain with guns, knives, home made explosives...something...The president needs to channel his resources on figuring out the fiscal cliff that he waited the last minute to figure out, not give speeches about banning guns, clips, etc.
 @Lucas Cole As for the homemade explosive, black powder, TNT and such, why haven't they been using that in the past? There are plenty of kids who don't have access to guns, but do have access to making this stuff, why haven't they been using that?
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 @the unvarnished truth  @Lucas Cole Troubled school aged kids playing too many violent video games done this? Let's stay on topic please.Â
Did the assault weapons ban keep Columbine from happening? As for the explosives, you might want to google the Bath School disaster...largest school disaster in our country's history.
 @rainmaker81 Let's stay on topic.
 @rainmaker81 Ok, as for the assault weapons ban, you are correct, it was ineffective then for that case, we need tighter gun control laws. The Bath School disaster happened in 1927, as I am sure are aware of, by a school board treasurer who as angry after being defeated in an election and not by kids playing too many violent video games, and by the way, there is no pattern of school bombings happening.
 @Lucas Cole This is not a rare tragic event, this has been consistently happening over the years, the most recent one was where a man just gunned down three people yesterday. Aurora Colorado, Virginia Tech, Columbine, just to name a few.
Well hours and days playing violent video games? hmm think there might be a link to this retard and the shootings, and the violent video games?
 @wynooheeman hey look everyone, another republican spouting the official gop talking points.Â
lets not blame the gun he used to kill people with. Lets blame the video games
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 @T H I S  @wynooheeman I have a novel idea. Let's not blame the video games OR the gun he used to kill people with. Let's blame the AH who did the shooting!
 @wynooheeman Japan is a video game Mecca and you don't hear anything about gun violence or mass shootings from them or the other countries such as Canada and Great Britain. The only element is immediate access to guns.
 @wynooheeman I have 30-40 days logged into Call of Duty and Battlefield games.  Does that make me a prime suspect for future shootings?  f5u7
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@wynooheeman - it sure would be nice if you knw how to spell and maybe some grammar to boot. And that R word is actually considered very offensive by post intelligent people.
 @wynooheeman  @crummycake  There are many different words you could have used to make an effective argument and still make your point.  That word is emotionally loaded and has caused pain to many people afflicted with a mental disability and their families. Yes, it is a free country, go ahead and keep using that word but don't be surprised when people cringe or discount what you have to say when you continue to throw it around. Â
 @Melissa Angevine  @wynooheeman Thank you, Melissa, I was thinking the same thing.  If you don't agree with someone, fine.  Disagree. But try your hardest to do so intelligently and with a modicum of respect if you want the rest of your argument to be heard and impartially evaluated. Use of that word basically led me to the conclusion that this person's idea isn't even worth the few seconds I spent reading it.Â
 @wynooheeman Do you get points or money for using the word retard?Â
@jb_22 I hope you did get a good laugh out of it.
 @wynooheeman Well it's good to know that you don't view me as a suspect.  As for your other assumptions all I can say is thanks for the laugh.Â
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Just like there was a link between satan and rock music, right?
@silens - rock music was only linked to satan if it was played backwards... ;)
 @Elaine2  @silens Thanks. I had forgotten about that. Got me a good giggle going here.
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 @silens  @wynooheeman Back in the day, rock music was the cause of all adolescent probems or should I say problem adolescents. {sarcasm} Naw, couldn't have been bad or lack of parenting. Parents told you that everyday. Long live Metallica.
Not the same thing....not even close.
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It's the exact same thing. A ridiculous claim made by the old and out of touch, touted as fact by sub-par parents who would do anything to deflect their own responsibility in raising a hellspawn.