Obama's big Hispanic win has Republicans worried

DENVER (AP) - Omayra Vasquez blinks and does a double take when asked why she voted for President Barack Obama. The reason for her was as natural as breathing.
"I feel closer to him," said Vasquez, a 43-year-old Federal Express worker from Denver. "He cares about the Spanish people."
Millions of Hispanic voters seconded that emotion Tuesday with resounding 71 percent support for Obama, tightening Democrats' grip on the White House and putting Republicans on notice that they must seriously court the nation's largest minority group if they want to win the presidency again.
According to initial exit polls, Republican candidate Mitt Romney, who backed hard-line immigration measures, came away with 27 percent Hispanic support, less than any presidential candidate in 16 years and a sharp drop from the 44 percent claimed by President George W. Bush in 2004 after he embraced immigration reform.
"We could have won this election if the party had a better brand name with Hispanics," said Al Cardenas, chairman of the American Conservative Union. "I don't believe there's a path to the White House in the future that doesn't include 38 percent-40 percent Hispanic support."
Cardenas said Hispanics were only a large part of a worrisome trend in the electorate, which is increasingly comprised of younger and minority voters who traditionally do not back Republicans. If the 1980 electorate looked like the 2012 version, he added, Jimmy Carter would have defeated Ronald Reagan.
Matt Schlapp, who was political director of George W. Bush's 2000 campaign, drew parallels between the GOP's standing with Hispanics and the party's troubles with African-Americans, who now routinely back Democrats by 9-1 margins. "The idea that we would somehow copy that with the Hispanic community is troubling," he said.
Hispanics have long favored Democrats. But they have been trending even more sharply toward that party since Republicans stymied Bush's immigration proposal and favored hard-line immigration measures that critics decried as racially motivated.
Romney tapped an author of Arizona's controversial immigration law to advise him during the GOP primaries and called for "self-deportation" to lower the number of illegal immigrants. Obama, meanwhile, announced in June that immigration authorities would grant work permits to people brought here illegally as children who graduated high school or served in the military. The directive energized a Hispanic electorate that had been disappointed by Obama's inability to pass immigration reforms.
A survey of Hispanic voters by the firm Latino Decisions found that Hispanics gave Obama his winning margin in Colorado, Florida and Nevada, swing states where they turned out in unusually high numbers. Even before the races were called, some Republicans took to the airwaves and social media calling for the party to back off its hard-line stance and embrace certain immigration reforms.
It's unclear whether the results would change the party's opposition to legalizing some illegal immigrants. In a conversation with the Des Moines Register last month, Obama predicted that GOP opposition could crumble after Hispanics delivered the White House to him. The conversation was initially off the record but later published with the president's consent.
"And since this is off the record, I will just be very blunt," Obama said. "Should I win a second term, a big reason I will win a second term is because the Republican nominee and the Republican Party have so alienated the fastest-growing demographic group in the country, the Latino community."
On Wednesday, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid vowed to introduce an immigration reform package next year, saying Republicans would reject it "at their peril."
Opponents of an immigration deal warned that Republicans should not take the Democrats' bait. Steve Camarota of the Center for Immigration Studies noted that Hispanics have reliably backed Democrats for decades, even after President Ronald Reagan signed an immigration amnesty in 1986 that gave many of them legal status. Those new American citizens, Camarota said, turned into Democrats.
Camarota and other supporters of immigration restrictions contend that Hispanics lean Democratic because they favor government social programs and higher taxes on the wealthy. "They changed the national electorate and now they have to move with the electorate," Camarota said of the GOP. "For 30 years that we have data, Hispanics have been voting Democratic. There's no reason to think that's going to change unless the Republican Party moves away from its low-tax, low-regulation position."
NumbersUSA President Roy Beck, whose group advocates reductions in immigration levels, argues that Republicans like Romney need to explain to Hispanic voters why immigration restrictions are in their interest. His group advocates reductions in immigration levels. "He should have talked about Hispanic unemployment and how much high immigration hurts Hispanic employment."
Rep. Lou Barletta, R-Pa., an immigration hawk, agreed and said economic issues, not immigration, are key to winning Hispanics. "You should never sacrifice your core beliefs for political reasons," he said.
The debate is nothing new for the GOP.
Mario H. Lopez, president of the conservative Hispanic Leadership Fund, said he's heard arguments like that before - after every election in which Hispanics lean more Democratic and Republicans suffer. "The clock has been ticking," Lopez said. "Some of us have been talking about it for years. It's up to them if they want to listen or have more nights like Tuesday night."
"I feel closer to him," said Vasquez, a 43-year-old Federal Express worker from Denver. "He cares about the Spanish people."
Millions of Hispanic voters seconded that emotion Tuesday with resounding 71 percent support for Obama, tightening Democrats' grip on the White House and putting Republicans on notice that they must seriously court the nation's largest minority group if they want to win the presidency again.
According to initial exit polls, Republican candidate Mitt Romney, who backed hard-line immigration measures, came away with 27 percent Hispanic support, less than any presidential candidate in 16 years and a sharp drop from the 44 percent claimed by President George W. Bush in 2004 after he embraced immigration reform.
"We could have won this election if the party had a better brand name with Hispanics," said Al Cardenas, chairman of the American Conservative Union. "I don't believe there's a path to the White House in the future that doesn't include 38 percent-40 percent Hispanic support."
Cardenas said Hispanics were only a large part of a worrisome trend in the electorate, which is increasingly comprised of younger and minority voters who traditionally do not back Republicans. If the 1980 electorate looked like the 2012 version, he added, Jimmy Carter would have defeated Ronald Reagan.
Matt Schlapp, who was political director of George W. Bush's 2000 campaign, drew parallels between the GOP's standing with Hispanics and the party's troubles with African-Americans, who now routinely back Democrats by 9-1 margins. "The idea that we would somehow copy that with the Hispanic community is troubling," he said.
Hispanics have long favored Democrats. But they have been trending even more sharply toward that party since Republicans stymied Bush's immigration proposal and favored hard-line immigration measures that critics decried as racially motivated.
Romney tapped an author of Arizona's controversial immigration law to advise him during the GOP primaries and called for "self-deportation" to lower the number of illegal immigrants. Obama, meanwhile, announced in June that immigration authorities would grant work permits to people brought here illegally as children who graduated high school or served in the military. The directive energized a Hispanic electorate that had been disappointed by Obama's inability to pass immigration reforms.
A survey of Hispanic voters by the firm Latino Decisions found that Hispanics gave Obama his winning margin in Colorado, Florida and Nevada, swing states where they turned out in unusually high numbers. Even before the races were called, some Republicans took to the airwaves and social media calling for the party to back off its hard-line stance and embrace certain immigration reforms.
It's unclear whether the results would change the party's opposition to legalizing some illegal immigrants. In a conversation with the Des Moines Register last month, Obama predicted that GOP opposition could crumble after Hispanics delivered the White House to him. The conversation was initially off the record but later published with the president's consent.
"And since this is off the record, I will just be very blunt," Obama said. "Should I win a second term, a big reason I will win a second term is because the Republican nominee and the Republican Party have so alienated the fastest-growing demographic group in the country, the Latino community."
On Wednesday, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid vowed to introduce an immigration reform package next year, saying Republicans would reject it "at their peril."
Opponents of an immigration deal warned that Republicans should not take the Democrats' bait. Steve Camarota of the Center for Immigration Studies noted that Hispanics have reliably backed Democrats for decades, even after President Ronald Reagan signed an immigration amnesty in 1986 that gave many of them legal status. Those new American citizens, Camarota said, turned into Democrats.
Camarota and other supporters of immigration restrictions contend that Hispanics lean Democratic because they favor government social programs and higher taxes on the wealthy. "They changed the national electorate and now they have to move with the electorate," Camarota said of the GOP. "For 30 years that we have data, Hispanics have been voting Democratic. There's no reason to think that's going to change unless the Republican Party moves away from its low-tax, low-regulation position."
NumbersUSA President Roy Beck, whose group advocates reductions in immigration levels, argues that Republicans like Romney need to explain to Hispanic voters why immigration restrictions are in their interest. His group advocates reductions in immigration levels. "He should have talked about Hispanic unemployment and how much high immigration hurts Hispanic employment."
Rep. Lou Barletta, R-Pa., an immigration hawk, agreed and said economic issues, not immigration, are key to winning Hispanics. "You should never sacrifice your core beliefs for political reasons," he said.
The debate is nothing new for the GOP.
Mario H. Lopez, president of the conservative Hispanic Leadership Fund, said he's heard arguments like that before - after every election in which Hispanics lean more Democratic and Republicans suffer. "The clock has been ticking," Lopez said. "Some of us have been talking about it for years. It's up to them if they want to listen or have more nights like Tuesday night."
The vicious circle continues. We let illegal immigrants pour in. So politicians start kowtowing to them by weakening or ignoring immigration laws. Which allows more illegal immigrants to pour in. Which leads more politicians kowtowing to them.
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And here we are. Drivers licenses and in-state tuition for illegal immigrants, and elections being won by their relatives, who want their illegal relatives given amnesty. Countdown to the kowtowing . . . . .
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Better start waking up, folks. Start supporting groups that work to stop illegal immigration, like FAIR (http://www.fairus.org/).   End the vicious circle before it's too late.
Not only the Hispanics,also the Asians and other minorities supporting the Democrats.
They know what they supporting and they know the Democrats will get to the issues,
unlike the crying babies Republicans just whine whine whine and play power !
The title should say "Illegals favor Obama"!
Because they favor social programs? Yah, I guess that makes sense for everyone except the taxpayers. Seems to me like they need to put some kinds of limits on how many years someone can collect these entitlements. With the amount of people pouring into this country with no way of taking care of themselves perhaps its time to do something about the use of these social services by so many. This will just encourage the politicians to give in to these demands.
 @Jatok limitations on social assistance programs is somewhere to start.. first establishing a lifetime maximum and once you exceed that maximum your cut loose I do not think it is all illegals using those services... as I have seen my share of lazy fat white folks like myself milking that system as well to say it is all Hispanics is appalling!,... these programs are there to help but the problem is the help has to stop somewhere to discourage dependence! ... the problem with things like the policy in 86 is it legalized the immigrants back then and yet more have come here again.. so we want to legalize another batch of them now? ... I had to wait for two year for my wife to come here and the people who circumvent that system to me is a slap in the face! You cannot blindly let everyone in... though I went for Obama on this one I am still a hard believer that immigration reform HAS to pass and it starts with us sealing the boarders to stop the influx of illegals entering the country and then taking care of the ones we have now but only after we ensure we are not getting MORE to fill the gap we just emptied!
@Freespeech I was addressing the fact that certain hispanics liked the social services and even though I know it's not just them I figure our social services are in part what cause so many people to come to this country. There needs to be limits and people need to help themselves. I am glad Obama has considered the young hispanics because my sisiter-in-law raised 3 kids (adopted 2) from Mexico when their parents were deported and they were left behind with a 19 year old drug addicted brother. There really needs to be some stronger immigration laws in that we need to have the ability to mainstream these people before even more come into the country at the very least. We have had an open door policy for many years, but I don't think it's been an advantage to this country in so many ways.
I honestly have just a little less respect for each and every one of you who didn't vote 3rd party or no candidate at all. Every four years everyone mindlessly perpetuates the very things they whine about on here. If you can't see that democrat and republican are two sides of the same coin, you have a lot of reading up to do. Turn off CNN. Turn off Fox News. Get a mind of your own. Vote sensibly.Â
Hispanics for obama? I wonder what the story would be if the sign read 'whites for romney'?
This is one of the reasons that made me not want to vote for Obama. His support of illegal immigrants in this country is appalling. Illegal immigrants are draining this country of resources that they shouldn't even be allowed to receive. If you want to be in this country, do it the right and LEGAL way. If not, go back to wherever the hell you came from.
 @Tattooed_Angel You are wrong.  Period.  Wars are draining this country's resources.  The Rich and their corporations moving jobs overseas are draining this country's resources.  Welfare and unemployment fraud are draining our country's resources.  This insane war on drugs is draining our country's resources.  Racist and uneducated people like you are draining this country's resources.  Immigrants, like it or not, add to our resources not subtract.  They aren't the problem-- you and people like you are the problem.Â
 @MPS  @Tattooed_Angel We are a country of immigrants, and I agree that immigrants enrich and contribute to our society in many ways, including, let's be honest, the illegal ones who are doing jobs the rest of us don't want to do.  However, what is unprecedented is the increasing numbers of people who are on the public dole, being supported by fewer and fewer people who hold jobs and pay federal income tax.  It's a simple matter of math. Eventually, it will be unsustainable, particularly when we extend copious benefits to those who did not immigrate by legally sanctioned means.  You can say that you want to offer free college educations, healthcare, WIC, subsidized housing, etc. to the undocumented, but where is the money supposed to come from?  You can't get blood from a rock.  It's not racist, by the way, to point out that the current state of affairs will become unsupportable in the coming decades. Â
 @MPS "Racist and uneducated people like you are draining this country's resources."
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You are so blind to your own prejudices it would be laughable if it were not so sad.
@MPS I STRONGLY disagree with you. Illegal immigrants cost this country an OBSCENE amount of money each year. 71% of illegals are on welfare. 71-freaking-percent! Illegals don't pay taxes on what income they make so who the hell pays for those illegals to sit on welfare? ME! The TRUE citizens of this country!
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You want to talk about welfare and unemployment fraud? What percentage of those illegals sit on welfare for as long as they can and continously have children on the taxpayers dime? How many of those illegal immigrants ever make an effort to better their lives by legalizing their status in this country so they can GET OFF of welfare and contribute to OUR society?
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I'm not saying that illegal immigrants are the cause of ALL of this country's financial problems however eliminating resources for NON-LEGAL residents would be a MAJOR step in correcting the budget crisis that befalls this country.
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I don't have a problem with people who need welfare or government assistance here and there. Hell, when I got out of the Air Force I needed help for a few months until I could get on my feet and start working. However, I have a SERIOUS problem with people who sit on welfare for YEARS, abuse the system, and make no effort to better themselves and get off of the system. THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS DO BECAUSE THEY CAN. Everyone complains about the lazy worthless people who sit on welfare for half their lives and don't give a flying eff. What about the illegals that do the same thing? Which a majority of them do.
""I feel closer to him," said Vasquez, a 43-year-old Federal Express worker from Denver. "He cares about the Spanish people."" The only thing politicians care about is the vote. They are professional tear jerkers and if the public sway becomes against the immigrant vote, they will throw them under the bus just a quickly. So fooling yourself.Â
 @Beam_Me_Up Dumb on so many levels, starting with the fact that is is patently untrue at the local level, still mostly untrue at the state level, and only few of some at the federal level.  Good God your post was dumb, even by your standards. Â
 @MPS So provide the facts instead of insults. Insults are all you are capable of reading your other comments in this article. On one side of my family I am a second generation of proud immigrants who came to this country in pursue of a better life and did everything and more to qualify legally for citizenship. They did not come searching for handouts and the best place for them to get handouts. They came willing to work hard and comply with anything and everything to make their dream come true. I am insulted by all the people that just want to give legal status to people who are here illegally or worse give them tax based handouts from my hard work. Illegal immigrants that cross over in Arizona don't stay in Arizona because Arizona is tired of illegals draining their budget. These illegals move as fast as possible to leave the state and the funny thing is the state is just enforcing FEDERAL law that Obama refuses to enforce. Obama did his political executive mandate for his dream act when his political advisers said it would have the most impact on getting the immigrant votes. He could have used his political power when the democrats controlled the house and senate 3 years before this but he did not because it was too far from his reelection.
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My other side of my family is even more angered at this political battle to win the hearts of illegals and their votes and voting families. This side goes back to before the non natives were here and watching the politicians fight for the illegal immigrants and the political clout they get from this is downright atrocious considering what my ancestors have put up with.
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But you continue with your fact less insults if this is how you have to react to the truth in politics. The rest of the people will carry your idiotic views as just fodder on this board which seems to match the troll you are.
Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented immigrant" is like calling a drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist".
 @Glassman want to end a lot drug dealing? decriminalze, or legalize and regulate.
Unfortunately, the party that promises to coddle the illegals, and continue to fund those who choose to do nothing will continue to win elections. Â When the law breakers and the lazy start to decide our leadership .............
 @S4tran the lazy dont vote, they are to lazy. I am personally offended by people calling those on government assistance "lazy". I know many people on government assistance, most of them I would not call lazy. In fact most of them work harder and longer then people who are not on assistance.
 @Jalharad  @S4tran They will when they can do it online, via Facebook, etc.  I already don't have to drag myself to the local polling place, just drop my ballot in a mailbox...
hey...i voted and i'm super lazy...i bring laziness to a whole new level...
The lazy will vote, if for no other reason than to be able to continue to be lazy.  I know many who do nothing but wait for their monthly benefits and vote to ensure the continuation of said benefits.  Being on government assistance is not lazy.  Often people need a little help.  But when one spends years on "assistance" because it is easier than getting a real job, and when generation upon generation of family are on "assistance" what would you call it?  And those that you know that are on assistance and working, well.... The majority I know that receive assistance and are working are not reporting the income received from working to get both.  Lazy is lazy, whether the receive government assistance, or continuously mooch off family and friends.
 @S4tran  @MPS If you think he is lying, than you really are clueless to the rampant fraud that goes on. You call him an ignorant idiot, but everything he has said is FACT. I have been neighbors and coworkers with the people he is describing. I have plenty of stories to back everything S4tran has said.Â
 @MPS Be careful when you finally take off your rose colored glasses and open your eyes to reality.  It might just slap the *(*& out of you.  Easy for you to make such negative comments, with nothing to back it up.  Maybe the truth hits a little to close to home?
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 @S4tran How many more posts do you need to make showing your ignorance and idiocy.  You are completely talking out of your a## and making things up.  You should run for president (see, that 's ironic humor). Â
So youre teling me that publicly threatening to arrest and deport people, while at the same time privately having those same people mow your lawn, watch your rich kids and cook your meals, makes those people NOT want to support your party? Weird.
U mad? I knew we were taking your jobs, but now we are taking your votes too! Feels good.Â
Great so that means our voting system is broken if illegals are voting. Way to go Obama. Being a citizen of this country means nothing now.
 @Willie69 illegals are not voting, but those who are legal, are voting.
 @Jalharad  @Willie69 Illegals are voting. As long as we do not require proof of ID, and ID standards are tightened, there is nothing to stop illegals from voting to get/keep benefits and to vote in someone who will provide amnesty or a quick road to citizenship
The vicious circle continues. We let illegal immigrants pour in. So politicians start kowtowing to them by weakening or ignoring immigration laws. Which allows more illegal immigrants to pour in. Which leads more politicians kowtowing to them.
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And here we are. Drivers licenses and in-state tuition for illegal immigrants, and elections being won by their relatives, who want their illegal relatives given amnesty. Countdown to the kowtowing . . . . .
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Better start waking up, folks. Start supporting groups that work to stop illegal immigration, like FAIR (http://www.fairus.org/).   End the vicious circle before it's too late.
 @wayne0004 or embrace immigration as a way to complete our country. We are a great nation, that's why they want to move here (plus they get paid more).Â
I embrace legal immigration. Who said I didn't? This topic is about ILLEGAL immigration.
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You understand the difference between LEGAL immigration and ILLEGAL immigration, don't you, Jalharad?
 @Jalharad I have zero problem with LEGAL immigration. ILLEGAL immigration on the other hand, needs to be dealt with swiftly and with extreme prejudice.
Finally, another group becomes the large minority. Â We won't have to listen to Jesse or Al anymore.
So, the question is, will there ever again be anyone but a Democrat in the Presidency? That may sound silly, but the way demographics are trending - immigration rates, birth rates, Hispanic majorities in large states - I think it's possible that the party of Lincoln will not be able to muster the support to get to the White House at some point.
No, the democrats to dot have a lock on the presidency. The GOP just needs to figure out how to be a bit more inclusive.Â
They also need to get back to problem solving over pusing an ideology.Â
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There is a large enough element of the GOP that is all for immigration reform that does no include trying to deport  all of the people who are in the county illegally.
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The concern is that we did this before where we granted amnesty. How do solve the issue this time without have to deal with it again?Â
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There is the smaller minority who has the "they are here illegally, and we need to get rid of them at all cost no matter what."
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This group is acting on ideology, and is willing to cause more problems than they solve. And the same time, issolate themselves politically. And sadly, it is this group that has been allowed to dominate the GOP conversation on this, and many other issues.
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There will be a push to get back to basics, and the minority wing will be slowly pushed aside.Â
 The mainstream of the party will be looking at 2014 as a way to foster more moderates.Â
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 @Star Shooter I agree. Well said. I also think we need to change our immigration laws. People are applying and waiting years and years. This only contributes to the illegal immigration problem. Maybe we need to make the laws stiffer in some areas while speeding up the process for those who will come here equiped with the skills to benefit our countryÂ
 @Darn it!  @Star Shooter With a current 8-10% unemployment rate, I don't care what they can contribute.  Bring more in means less jobs.  At one time, allowing and encouraging immigration was great for this nation.  Ideals and such need to change to match reality of time.  We are no longer a nation that can afford to take in all those who wish to come here.  We can no longer house those who are oppressed in their own countries.  We cannot take care of our own citizens, why in the world would we want to take in more? Hard stance, yes.  Cold stance, quite possibly.  Realistic, most definatly
@belsnickles I would hazzard to guess that yes, there will be someone other than a self professed dem in the Presidency. Only two things needed.
1. Spew enough BS that the majority has a taste for
2. Access to the $$, because in politics, you gotta pay to play.
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Or I suppose there is always the possibility of a hostile take over, but that's much less likely.
 @barkingmad  @belsnickles All true, unfortunately.
 @belsnickles Just as the veered off to the crazy far right in recent times, they will slide back to the middle if they realize that they don't stand a chance of winning that way. Just like Mitt Romney did on all his policies in the last six months.
 @therunner I think they will have to to get anywhere.  My parents were/are life-long Republicans, and back in the day, the party did not resemble its current incarnation at all.  I think Romney is actually much more middle-of-the-road than people think - he governed the ancestral and political stomping grounds of the Kennedys, for pete's sake.  But nowadays, being on the Republican ticket requires a lot of genuflecting to the far, far right.  That loses elections.
 @Jalharad 20-30 years from now there will be but one party in this country. Guess which one?
 @belsnickles  @therunner that will change. in 20-30 years, the dems will become the republicans. It has happened before, it will happen again.
 @belsnickles Well, in my dreams I would say yes.  That's because in my dreams we have more than two parties and both the Repubs and the Dems get voted out.  I can dream, can't I?
 @stamperzann I have dreams, too.  I dream of the day when I actually WANT to vote for one of the presidential candidates, when I actually LIKE one of them, and am not just thinking about who'll be the least objectionable.  I think we'll both just have to keep dreaming.
 @belsnickles Yeah, I dream of that as well.