Police in legal minefield on Ariz. immigration law

PHOENIX (AP) - More than two years after it was signed into law, the most contentious part of Arizona's landmark immigration legislation is expected to finally go into effect following a federal court ruling issued late Wednesday.
But the U.S. Supreme Court laid a legal minefield that Arizona now must navigate when the critical provision takes effect. The clause, one of the few significant ones that the high court left standing in a June ruling, requires all Arizona police officers to check the immigration status of people they stop while enforcing other laws and suspect are in the country illegally.
While preserving that requirement, however, the Supreme Court explicitly left the door open to arguments that the law leads to civil rights violations. Attorneys would need actual victims to make that case.
Civil rights activists are preparing to scour the state for such victims. Lydia Guzman, who runs Respect/Respeto, a Phoenix group that tracks racial profiling, said volunteers at the organization's call center have already been told to listen for new complaints when the requirement goes into effect.
"We're watching and we're looking for cases," she said.
Barring a successful, emergency challenge of Wednesday's ruling to an appeals court - an outcome that legal observers believe is unlikely - the requirement is expected to go into effect in the next several days. U.S. District Judge Susan Bolton rejected arguments by civil rights attorneys that she should prevent the requirement from kicking in, noting that the Supreme Court had specifically found that the provision should be allowed to become law.
Arizona police were formally trained on how to implement the law shortly after Gov. Jan Brewer signed it in 2010. The heads of some of the state's biggest law enforcement agencies - the Phoenix and Tucson police departments and the Pima County sheriff's office - were critical of it but ultimately said they would obey whatever parts the courts found to be constitutional.
"We enforce laws passed by our legislators," Sgt. Tommy Thompson, a Phoenix Police spokesman, said Wednesday night, noting the requirement still has not gone into effect.
Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio, who has been the most publicly aggressive in pursuing illegal immigrants, said in an interview Wednesday that his deputies already check the immigration status of people they encounter. Arpaio, a supporter of the law, said he expects no differences other than an increased number of lawsuits.
The law's author, former state Sen. Russell Pearce, said he does not expect sweeping changes in the way local police will conduct themselves once the requirement kicks in.
"I'm not asking for roundups, I'm not asking for anything but paying attention and doing your job," he said. "It's not that we want people in jail. We want compliance."
Peter Spiro, a Temple University law professor who has followed the two-year legal battle, said Arizona remains in a difficult legal spot.
"If the state's savvy at all, it's going to be very cautious" about how it implements the requirement, he said. "To the extent that it's not, it's going to be very vulnerable on this.
"Further litigation," Spiro said, "is imminent."
Since it overwhelmingly passed Arizona's Republican-controlled Legislature in 2010, the immigration law has been fiercely challenged in court.
Among its opponents was the Obama administration, which challenged the law based on the argument that federal immigration law trumped Arizona law. The challenge didn't confront racial profiling, and the administration failed to persuade the nation's highest court to strike down the questioning requirement.
To the supporters of Arizona's law, the questioning requirement was the most important part of the statute, whose stated purpose was to reduce the problems associated with illegal immigration through enforcement by the state.
Immigrant rights groups believe the requirement presents the most opportunities for civil rights abuses.
Shortly before the law was to take effect in July 2010, Bolton prevented police from enforcing the questioning requirement and other parts of the statute, ruling the Obama administration would likely succeed in showing federal law trumps the state law.
Brewer appealed the ruling, lost at the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals and took her case to the Supreme Court.
Less controversial sections of the law have been in effect since late July 2010 but have rarely been used.
Arizona's law was passed amid voter frustration with the state's role as the busiest illegal entry point into the country. Five states - Alabama, Georgia, Indiana, South Carolina and Utah - have adopted variations of Arizona's law.
Brewer's office said the law is expected to go into effect shortly.
"The courts have now consistently found that the plaintiffs have not met the high bar in arguing this law needs to be enjoined before it's allowed to take effect," gubernatorial spokesman Matthew Benson said. "Certainly, Gov. Brewer is pleased with this decision. She believes it's time SB1070 is implemented and so that we can see how effective this law is in practice."
Karen Tumlin, an attorney for the National Immigration Law Center, said her office was "considering our legal options" after Bolton's ruling.
"We were surprised and disappointed," said Dan Pochoda, legal director for the American Civil Liberties Union of Arizona.
Bolton did, however, grant a preliminary injunction against a statute making it illegal to harbor individuals suspected of being in the country illegally.
Guzman, the Arizona civil rights activist, said she expects police to tread cautiously as they implement the requirement.
"They know they're under the watchful eyes of activists like me, attorneys and even their own departments," she said.
But the U.S. Supreme Court laid a legal minefield that Arizona now must navigate when the critical provision takes effect. The clause, one of the few significant ones that the high court left standing in a June ruling, requires all Arizona police officers to check the immigration status of people they stop while enforcing other laws and suspect are in the country illegally.
While preserving that requirement, however, the Supreme Court explicitly left the door open to arguments that the law leads to civil rights violations. Attorneys would need actual victims to make that case.
Civil rights activists are preparing to scour the state for such victims. Lydia Guzman, who runs Respect/Respeto, a Phoenix group that tracks racial profiling, said volunteers at the organization's call center have already been told to listen for new complaints when the requirement goes into effect.
"We're watching and we're looking for cases," she said.
Barring a successful, emergency challenge of Wednesday's ruling to an appeals court - an outcome that legal observers believe is unlikely - the requirement is expected to go into effect in the next several days. U.S. District Judge Susan Bolton rejected arguments by civil rights attorneys that she should prevent the requirement from kicking in, noting that the Supreme Court had specifically found that the provision should be allowed to become law.
Arizona police were formally trained on how to implement the law shortly after Gov. Jan Brewer signed it in 2010. The heads of some of the state's biggest law enforcement agencies - the Phoenix and Tucson police departments and the Pima County sheriff's office - were critical of it but ultimately said they would obey whatever parts the courts found to be constitutional.
"We enforce laws passed by our legislators," Sgt. Tommy Thompson, a Phoenix Police spokesman, said Wednesday night, noting the requirement still has not gone into effect.
Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio, who has been the most publicly aggressive in pursuing illegal immigrants, said in an interview Wednesday that his deputies already check the immigration status of people they encounter. Arpaio, a supporter of the law, said he expects no differences other than an increased number of lawsuits.
The law's author, former state Sen. Russell Pearce, said he does not expect sweeping changes in the way local police will conduct themselves once the requirement kicks in.
"I'm not asking for roundups, I'm not asking for anything but paying attention and doing your job," he said. "It's not that we want people in jail. We want compliance."
Peter Spiro, a Temple University law professor who has followed the two-year legal battle, said Arizona remains in a difficult legal spot.
"If the state's savvy at all, it's going to be very cautious" about how it implements the requirement, he said. "To the extent that it's not, it's going to be very vulnerable on this.
"Further litigation," Spiro said, "is imminent."
Since it overwhelmingly passed Arizona's Republican-controlled Legislature in 2010, the immigration law has been fiercely challenged in court.
Among its opponents was the Obama administration, which challenged the law based on the argument that federal immigration law trumped Arizona law. The challenge didn't confront racial profiling, and the administration failed to persuade the nation's highest court to strike down the questioning requirement.
To the supporters of Arizona's law, the questioning requirement was the most important part of the statute, whose stated purpose was to reduce the problems associated with illegal immigration through enforcement by the state.
Immigrant rights groups believe the requirement presents the most opportunities for civil rights abuses.
Shortly before the law was to take effect in July 2010, Bolton prevented police from enforcing the questioning requirement and other parts of the statute, ruling the Obama administration would likely succeed in showing federal law trumps the state law.
Brewer appealed the ruling, lost at the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals and took her case to the Supreme Court.
Less controversial sections of the law have been in effect since late July 2010 but have rarely been used.
Arizona's law was passed amid voter frustration with the state's role as the busiest illegal entry point into the country. Five states - Alabama, Georgia, Indiana, South Carolina and Utah - have adopted variations of Arizona's law.
Brewer's office said the law is expected to go into effect shortly.
"The courts have now consistently found that the plaintiffs have not met the high bar in arguing this law needs to be enjoined before it's allowed to take effect," gubernatorial spokesman Matthew Benson said. "Certainly, Gov. Brewer is pleased with this decision. She believes it's time SB1070 is implemented and so that we can see how effective this law is in practice."
Karen Tumlin, an attorney for the National Immigration Law Center, said her office was "considering our legal options" after Bolton's ruling.
"We were surprised and disappointed," said Dan Pochoda, legal director for the American Civil Liberties Union of Arizona.
Bolton did, however, grant a preliminary injunction against a statute making it illegal to harbor individuals suspected of being in the country illegally.
Guzman, the Arizona civil rights activist, said she expects police to tread cautiously as they implement the requirement.
"They know they're under the watchful eyes of activists like me, attorneys and even their own departments," she said.
If the government would secure the border none of this would be necessary. Why don't we bring back all the troops that are still stationed in Japan, Germany and other bases around the world and put them on the border. I like to see how tough those drug runners are when they are confronted by a group of soldiers instead of some rancher and his dog.
 @BobDobbs How about 2500 feet of warning signs... when you cross the final warning, you are met with automated machine guns?Â
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I don't we really even need to police the border that much if we do NOT let illegals get jobs in this country. They will leave on their own accord. I also think we should let more illegals in this country "legally", but get them all out first.
Agree SW. I wish we could instill a work program that would allow people to come here to work for a specific amount of time and then send them back. The problem is getting them to leave when the visa expires. There are too many loopholes and not enough oversight. And the penalty is not severe enough to encourage them to go home.Â
 @BobDobbs Make the employers enforce the visa. If the Visa is expired, they won't get paid. If they don't get paid, they will a. leave, b. renew their visa.Â
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If our borders were properly controlled none of this would be necessary. But they are not, and haven't been for years, so now our sovereign soil is overrun with millions of illegal alien invaders. Literally TENS OF MILLIONS, and they urgently need to be identified, arrested, and permanently expelled from our Nation, by whatever means necessary.Â
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This whole "profiling" thing is a diversion and a lie perpetrated by the pro infiltrating-illegal alien faction, which fervently desires to "re-conquest" the U.S.A. with their "own people", their "own culture", and their "own language".... they are implacable in pursuing their goals and willing to use anything, including putting up straw-man legal obstacles such as this "racial profiling" garbage, to accomplish their objectives. It is literally another "Cold War" with them using a (mostly) unarmed peasant army to overwhelm, by sheer numbers (and our own foolishly wrong interpretation of the 14th Amendment!), our hard-won territories.Â
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As American Citizens, we DO have the RIGHT to know and identify, and to TAKE ACTION against, those who threaten our Sovereign Nation. And... we have the right to use whatever methods necessary to do so! SUPPORT Gov. Jan Brewer! Your grandchildren will thank you!
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100% Deportation. Finish The Fence. Reform the 14th. NOW. NO MORE EXCUSES!
 @TheTruncheon It would be cheaper to fine and jail anyone that would employ an illegal.
The illegals would leave on their own, not just to south of the border but  to all of the other places that the come from.
For the drug dealers, give the drugs to our druggie's and there will be no need to steal and no money to be made by the dealers.
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Bla blah bla blah bla something something blah 1,969 mile fence to patrol surely that's a great idea!
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You sir are full of fail.
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Let's forget about the fact that no one would come here if they couldn't get jobs. Maybe we should finally start crucifying businesses hiring undocumented workers? Nah couldn't be that simple could it?
@ducati @TheTruncheon  The Immigration and Reform Act of 1986 outlawed hiring illegal aliens. The law's on the books. This administration; just like those that preceded it refuse to implement the law. You just can't pi$$ off those people who write the big campaign checks.
@Mej47 Absolutely! I grew up in Arizona and this illegal or the more derogatory term of 'wet-back' was used for years and years. It's always been a bone of contention in the border states - mostly the flak comes from the legal Latinos as that was my experience. Politicians are not going to go against those who paid for them to be in office - never have that I know of and certainly never will that I know of. Too many big corporations - have 'paid' for the right to hire 'cheap labor' on US soil.
 @ducati It actually IS a very simple process, as we'll all find out when these suggestions are, eventually, implemented.
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I completely agree that crucifying (literally) the misguided xenophiles and quisling businesses that hire illegal aliens would be a helpful component of the expulsion process, and it's implementation is much needed.
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Also helpful: denying illegals driver's licenses; repealing ALL the illegal so-called "sanctuary areas" and impeaching/removing from office those politicians who've shoved them down our unwilling throats; making E-VERIFY a MANDATORY tool that ALL businesses MUST utilize; making ENGLISH the official language of the U.S.A. and mandating it's exclusive use in ALL public signage, packaging, advertisements, pamphlets and government publications; reforming the 14th Amendment to specifically and retroactively to NOT allow birthright citizen ship unless at least one parent is a citizen and has been while living here for at least ten years, and finally, forbidding ANY AND ALL social-services to ANYONE who cannot PROVE they are citizens, and that includes food-banks. If emergency-room treatment by an illegal invader is needed, then the bill goes to their home country that they left, and they are immediately deported back there as well.
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And, IDENTIFYING the illegal aliens (using the correct term, and that is NOT the PC-Brainwashed molly-coddling term of "undocumented workers") who are being allowed to work here is also a crucial part of the removal process as well, and this is what the story is about... the process and procedures used TO IDENTIFY THE ILLEGAL ALIENS so they can be arrested and deported.
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As far as the fence goes, it's surely a "shovel-ready" job if there ever was one... and it NEEDS TO BE BUILT as a major component, (along with increased and expanded foot, air, and motorized patrols, electronic surveillance, etc), of securing our borders from infiltrators... of all sorts. And about it's length, who cares how long the fence is? You throw that 1969 mile figure out like it's somehow some sort of insurmountable problem! We put men on the moon, we split the atom, we invented the airplane! We can surely build and man a secure fence along a very problematic and increasingly violent border in order to help insure the safety of OUR citizens!
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I will also say this: mocking others' posts and flinging around flippantly insulting little buzz-phrase statements is guaranteed to not win you friends nor to influence people.
Civil rights activist's and lawyers will be scouring the state trying to find one case of racial profiling to bring a law suit against the state. If the feds under this administration would get off their high horse and do their job none of this would be necessary. Vote buying at its best.
Something has to be done. Living with the same problem here in South Texas there has to be a better way of IDâing the folks. The thing that people donât understand is that this is bigger than Mexicans just fleeing Mexico to come to the US, but the drug cartels are wreaking havoc  on our side of the border too.  My neighbors are scared to go into Mexico to visit family and friends. My truck was stolen on Labor day and both the cops and insurance company said it was taken to Mexico to run drugs, because of the Washington plates. This is a really big problem and both the Mexicans that I live with, and I believe profiling is necessary in order to catch these guys, in combination with tighter border restrictions.  60k truck on an insurance claim mean all of us pay higher premiums.Â
Please do this in California.