Scholar: Jesus cites wife in ancient script

ROME (AP) - Is a scrap of papyrus suggesting that Jesus had a wife authentic?
Scholars on Wednesday questioned the much-publicized discovery by a Harvard scholar that a 4th century fragment of papyrus provided the first evidence that some early Christians believed Jesus was married.
And experts in the illicit antiquities trade also wondered about the motive of the fragment's anonymous owner, noting that the document's value has likely increased amid the publicity of the still-unproven find.
Karen King, a professor of early Christianity at Harvard Divinity School, announced the finding Tuesday at an international congress on Coptic studies in Rome. The text, written in Coptic and probably translated from a 2nd century Greek text, contains a dialogue in which Jesus refers to "my wife," whom he identifies as Mary.
King's paper, and the front-page attention it received in some U.S. newspapers that got advance word about it, was a hot topic of conversation Wednesday during coffee breaks at the conference.
Christian tradition has long held that Jesus was unmarried, although there is no reliable historical evidence to support that. Any evidence pointing to whether Jesus was married or had a female disciple could have ripple effects in current debates over the role of women in the church.
Stephen Emmel, a professor of Coptology at the University of Muenster who was on the international advisory panel that reviewed the 2006 discovery of the Gospel of Judas, said the text accurately quotes Jesus as saying "my wife." But he questioned whether the document was authentic.
"There's something about this fragment in its appearance and also in the grammar of the Coptic that strikes me as being not completely convincing somehow," he said in an interview on the sidelines of the conference.
Another participant at the congress, Alin Suciu, a papyrologist at the University of Hamburg, was more blunt.
"I would say it's a forgery. The script doesn't look authentic" when compared to other samples of Coptic papyrus script dated to the 4th century, he said.
King acknowledged Wednesday that questions remain about the fragment, and she welcomed the feedback from her colleagues. She said she planned to subject the fragment to ink tests to determine if the chemical components match those used in antiquity.
"We still have some work to do, testing the ink and so on and so forth, but what is exciting about this fragment is that it's the first case we have of Christians claiming that Jesus had a wife," she said.
She stressed that the text doesn't provide any historical evidence that Jesus was actually married, only that some two centuries after he died, some early Christians believed he had a wife.
Wolf-Peter Funk, a noted Coptic linguist, said there was no way to evaluate the significance of the fragment because it has no context. It's a partial text and tiny, measuring 4 centimeters by 8 centimeters (1.5 inches by 3 inches), about the size of a small cellphone.
"There are thousands of scraps of papyrus where you find crazy things," said Funk, co-director of a project editing the Nag Hammadi Coptic library at Laval University in Quebec. "It can be anything."
He, too, doubted the authenticity, saying the form of the fragment was "suspicious."
Ancient papyrus fragments have been frequently cut up by unscrupulous dealers seeking to make more money.
An anonymous collector brought King the fragment in December 2011, seeking her help in translating and understanding it. In March, she brought it to two papyrologists who determined it was very likely authentic.
On Tuesday, Harvard Divinity School announced the finding to great fanfare and said King's paper would be published in January's Harvard Theological Review. Harvard said the fragment most likely came from Egypt, and that its earliest documentation is from the early 1980s indicating that a now-deceased professor in Germany thought it evidence of a possible marriage of Jesus.
Some archaeologists were quick to question Harvard's ethics, noting that the fragment has no known provenance, or history of where it's been, and that its owner may have a financial interest in the publicity being generated about it.
King has said the owner wants to sell his collection to Harvard.
"There are all sorts of really dodgy things about this," said David Gill, professor of archaeological heritage at University Campus Suffolk and author of the Looting Matters blog, which closely follows the illicit trade in antiquities. "This looks to me as if any sensible, responsible academic would keep their distance from it."
He cited the ongoing debate in academia over publishing articles about possibly dubiously obtained antiquities, thus potentially fueling the illicit market. He questioned, for example, whether the letter from the German Egyptologist was authentic, and whether Harvard should have contacted Egyptian authorities about the find.
Scholars on Wednesday questioned the much-publicized discovery by a Harvard scholar that a 4th century fragment of papyrus provided the first evidence that some early Christians believed Jesus was married.
And experts in the illicit antiquities trade also wondered about the motive of the fragment's anonymous owner, noting that the document's value has likely increased amid the publicity of the still-unproven find.
Karen King, a professor of early Christianity at Harvard Divinity School, announced the finding Tuesday at an international congress on Coptic studies in Rome. The text, written in Coptic and probably translated from a 2nd century Greek text, contains a dialogue in which Jesus refers to "my wife," whom he identifies as Mary.
King's paper, and the front-page attention it received in some U.S. newspapers that got advance word about it, was a hot topic of conversation Wednesday during coffee breaks at the conference.
Christian tradition has long held that Jesus was unmarried, although there is no reliable historical evidence to support that. Any evidence pointing to whether Jesus was married or had a female disciple could have ripple effects in current debates over the role of women in the church.
Stephen Emmel, a professor of Coptology at the University of Muenster who was on the international advisory panel that reviewed the 2006 discovery of the Gospel of Judas, said the text accurately quotes Jesus as saying "my wife." But he questioned whether the document was authentic.
"There's something about this fragment in its appearance and also in the grammar of the Coptic that strikes me as being not completely convincing somehow," he said in an interview on the sidelines of the conference.
Another participant at the congress, Alin Suciu, a papyrologist at the University of Hamburg, was more blunt.
"I would say it's a forgery. The script doesn't look authentic" when compared to other samples of Coptic papyrus script dated to the 4th century, he said.
King acknowledged Wednesday that questions remain about the fragment, and she welcomed the feedback from her colleagues. She said she planned to subject the fragment to ink tests to determine if the chemical components match those used in antiquity.
"We still have some work to do, testing the ink and so on and so forth, but what is exciting about this fragment is that it's the first case we have of Christians claiming that Jesus had a wife," she said.
She stressed that the text doesn't provide any historical evidence that Jesus was actually married, only that some two centuries after he died, some early Christians believed he had a wife.
Wolf-Peter Funk, a noted Coptic linguist, said there was no way to evaluate the significance of the fragment because it has no context. It's a partial text and tiny, measuring 4 centimeters by 8 centimeters (1.5 inches by 3 inches), about the size of a small cellphone.
"There are thousands of scraps of papyrus where you find crazy things," said Funk, co-director of a project editing the Nag Hammadi Coptic library at Laval University in Quebec. "It can be anything."
He, too, doubted the authenticity, saying the form of the fragment was "suspicious."
Ancient papyrus fragments have been frequently cut up by unscrupulous dealers seeking to make more money.
An anonymous collector brought King the fragment in December 2011, seeking her help in translating and understanding it. In March, she brought it to two papyrologists who determined it was very likely authentic.
On Tuesday, Harvard Divinity School announced the finding to great fanfare and said King's paper would be published in January's Harvard Theological Review. Harvard said the fragment most likely came from Egypt, and that its earliest documentation is from the early 1980s indicating that a now-deceased professor in Germany thought it evidence of a possible marriage of Jesus.
Some archaeologists were quick to question Harvard's ethics, noting that the fragment has no known provenance, or history of where it's been, and that its owner may have a financial interest in the publicity being generated about it.
King has said the owner wants to sell his collection to Harvard.
"There are all sorts of really dodgy things about this," said David Gill, professor of archaeological heritage at University Campus Suffolk and author of the Looting Matters blog, which closely follows the illicit trade in antiquities. "This looks to me as if any sensible, responsible academic would keep their distance from it."
He cited the ongoing debate in academia over publishing articles about possibly dubiously obtained antiquities, thus potentially fueling the illicit market. He questioned, for example, whether the letter from the German Egyptologist was authentic, and whether Harvard should have contacted Egyptian authorities about the find.
Sure, Jesus was an enlightened guy (all the Gurus and Llamas agree). But that's not a necessarily a reason not to get married. He had some spiritual adventures in northern India and Tibet, then came home and settled down with the wife and started doing his spiritual teaching. Some enlightened people are celibate and others are not. No big deal.
in paris, 2004, i met this parisian femme fatale at place pigalle and had a wild night together at hôtel ritz paris in place vendôme.  she told me she was the last descendant from jesus christ.  and i believed her....because - all night long with her - i was in heaven...
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christians around the world, relax! Â no need to attack our embassies because of my anecdote, which is now a part of a CIA intel...
Oooh....4th century! Must be valid....seriously though why would Christians be upset if Jesus had a wife? i wouldn't be, doesn't say either way but according to the customs of the time he would have been married.
oh, the christians won't be happy. not at all happy...
Why? So maybe Jesus had a wife big deal. Doesnt change the way I feel about him or Christianity.
In other news Misses Clause is pregnant.
At the time the name Jesus was about the most popular name out there. After the time of crucifixion it almost disappeared. Before the Revolution here in America the name Arnold was one of the most popular names for boys. Â In early 1900âs the name Hitler was very popular in Europe. By the 50âs it had also almost disappeared. History and the events happened need to be put in context before some dumb âscholarâ runs his/her mouth off and makes a bit of a fool of them self.
 @bustedupredneck So Jesus wasn't married?  And if he was how does that change anything?  Is being married a sin?
4th century? I don't swallow it because that's when all the false teachings come into Christianity.
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 @Theonedog  @man711 do your homework please as to the dating of the gospels. No need for names, don't accept it if you don't believe it it's your right to do so.
The Church is the Bride of Christ...wife is not a stretch either...
As I understand it, the Bride of Christ refers to the New Jerusalem. The church is His body.
Who cares? This isn't news until it is authenticated. In my opinion, looks like some of those archaeologists are right... the owner is trying to raise publicity about the "artifact" so that he can get a better price when he tries to sell his collection, even though it is most likely a fake.
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And the Harvard scholar just threw his reputation down the toilet.
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@Tattooed_Angel - Early Christians and non-christians often referred to the woman who cleaned/cooked in a group as the "wife" or sister-wife of the group. The Harvard professor admits this in a more detailed article, but states its no reason to stop studying the fragment.
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What's the controversy.? There are lots of things that did not make it into the New Testament. Â
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It's silly!
Jesus had sex with a prostitute and then married her? oh the horror.
@Blindman  There is no evidence anywhere that Mary Magdalene was a prostitute and only vague unproven rumors that she was Jesus's wife. But hey, if it makes you feel good to spread rumors, go for it.
I wonder what all of the religious hypocrites out there will have to say now
@northwestsurfer  Most serious religious Christians will wait to find out if the papyrus is authentic. So far most of the scholars who've seen it think it's a fake and probably a scam to make someone rich.
@Mej47 Yeah? Every serious religious Christian I ever knew was quick to rush to judgement without waiting for facts
 @Nitroxman right. and you need to get out more...
@ northwestsurfer I know a lot of Christians, I am one myself, and I do not know of any that jump to conclusions without facts. You are just throwing out a sterotype that you think is fact.Â
@Ducky Dude, that statement almost zero sense. What does getting out more, have to do with an observation I have made about religious types?
And, I get out all the time. I am rarely home or in town on weekends when I am not at call.
 @Ducky  @northwestsurfer serious Christians have debated Christ's martial status for centuries. Most believe the scriptures canonized in the King James Bible that Jesus was celibate still others, primarily Christian scholars have argued that Jesus' celibacy is a myth. There is scant evidence proving the celibacy is a myth theory. To date very little writings discussing the wife of Jesus existed have been unearthed. But as more is gleaned from what ancient documents that do exist, such as the Dead Sea Scrolls, a truer picture of the life of Christ may emerge.
@northwestsurfer You should get out more.
While this may be a legit discovery, it's hardly needed to make the point already so well made in other writings from his actual lifetime and immediately after his death. There are plenty of Gospels and other historical texts that have references.
O heck no!!! Don't start on us sentryone, we're not the one attacking Embassy's and killing people!! And yes I'm well aware of all the horrible things we did hudreds of years ago.Â
@Dannielle Durham once usually works just fine
O heck no!!! Don't start on us sentryone, we're not the one attacking Embassy's and killing people!! And yes I'm well aware of all the horrible thing we did hudreds of years ago.Â
I hope Christians don't burn the Boston state flag now or threaten this professor.  As this circulates throughout the world, who knows?  Oh my gosh.
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While I think it is very possible that Jesus was married, I doubt this is authentic. Very easy to get some old papyrus and write whatever you want on it.
I don't know if this is true or not and I do not understand all the doctrinal considerations (and don't want to understand them), but this work is really cool. To discover these ancient texts about Christianity and Jesus written by people only a couple of hundred years after the death of Christ is great scholarship.
It is something that may never be fully known or understood. Many do believe that Jesus did indeed take a wife, but that has not been universally accepted especially by the Catholics. With the canonization of the New Testament those books that were not selected were either destroyed or lost forever. Those included the gospels of the other eight main disciples, Mary Magdalene, and many of his lesser disciples and followers. The answer to Jesus' marital status was probably explained in one of those lost texts.
A few words on a document that may or may not be real, and may have been written 200 years after Christ died, by people who didn't know him, discussing whether they thought he might have had a wife and some people will try to turn Christianity upside down with a fake contraversy. Lotsa luck.
 @Mej47 But a book written at the same time and translated umpteen times is truth?
 @Mej47 don't have to - you just did. you need to check out what else happened around then, like the council of nicea... as usual, the christians have a very selective story to tell...
 @Theonedog  @Mej47 LOL atheists.
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This is proof that priests should be able to marry. Oh the pope would have to talk to higher ups to get that approval.
 @rockguy That will happen sooner or later anyway. The Catholic Church will eventually allow priests to marry just to keep the priesthood staffed.