School adviser: Mass killer a loner who felt no pain

SOUTHBURY, Conn. (AP) - At Newtown High School, Adam Lanza had trouble relating to fellow students and teachers, but that was only part of his problem. He seemed not to feel physical or emotional pain in the same way as classmates.
Richard Novia, the school district's head of security until 2008, who also served as adviser for the school technology club, said Lanza clearly "had some disabilities."
"If that boy would've burned himself, he would not have known it or felt it physically," Novia told The Associated Press in a phone interview. "It was my job to pay close attention to that."
Novia was responsible for monitoring students as they used soldering tools and other potentially dangerous electrical equipment.
He recalled meeting with school guidance counselors, administrators and with the boy's mother, Nancy Lanza, to understand his problems and find ways to ensure his safety. But there were others crises only a mother could solve.
"He would have an episode, and she'd have to return or come to the high school and deal with it," Novia said, describing how the young man would sometimes withdraw completely "from whatever he was supposed to be doing," whether it was sitting in class or reading a book.
Adam Lanza "could take flight, which I think was the big issue, and it wasn't a rebellious or defiant thing," Novia said. "It was withdrawal."
Authorities on Saturday continued a wide-ranging investigating into the second-deadliest school shooting in U.S. history, trying to understand what led the young man to kill his mother in their home and then slaughter 26 children and adults at a Connecticut elementary school before taking his own life.
Back in their teenage years, Adam and his older brother, Ryan, were both members of the tech club, which offered students a chance to work on computers, videotape school events and produce public-access broadcasts.
It was popular among socially awkward students. But Adam, while clearly smart, had problems that went beyond an adolescent lack of social skills, Novia said.
"You had yourself a very scared young boy, who was very nervous around people he could trust or he refused to speak with," Novia said.
The club provided a setting for students to build lasting friendships. But while other members were acquainted with Adam, none was close to him.
"Have you found his best friend? Have you found a friend?" Novia asked. "You're not going to. He was a loner."
Adam was not physically bullied, although he may have been teased, Novia said.
The club gave the boy a place where he could be more at ease and indulge his interest in computers. His anxieties appeared to ease somewhat, but they never disappeared. When people approached him in the hallways, he would press himself against the wall or walk in a different direction, clutching tight to his black case.
"The behavior would be more like an 8-year-old who refuses to give up his teddy bear," Novia said. "What you knew with Adam is it was a possession. It was not a possession to be put at risk."
Even so, Novia said, his primary concern was that Adam might become a target for abuse by his fellow students, not that he might become a threat.
"Somewhere along in the last four years, there were significant changes that led to what has happened," Novia said. "I could never have foreseen him doing that."
Jim McDade, who lives a few houses from where Nancy Lanza was slain, said his family became acquainted with the two brothers and their mother because their children were about the same ages and rode the school bus together.
"There was certainly no indication of anything unusual that lets you think that a kid's going to do something like that," said McDade, who works in finance in New York. "There was nothing that would indicate anything going on behind the scenes that would lead to this horrible mess."
He recalled Adam Lanza as "a very bright kid."
Olivia DeVivo, a student at the University of Connecticut, was in Adam Lanza's 10th grade English class.
"He was very different and very shy and didn't make an effort to interact with anybody," she said.
DeVivo said Lanza always carried a briefcase and wore his shirts buttoned up to the top button. She said he seemed bright but never really participated in class.
"Now looking back, it's kind of like 'OK, he had all these signs,' but you can't say every shy person would do something like this."
On Saturday, a police car was parked in the driveway of the Stamford, Conn., home of Lanza's father, Peter Lanza. An officer stopped reporters who tried to approach the house.
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Associated Press writers Michael Melia and Jim Fitzgerald in Newtown, Conn., and Denise Lavoie in Stamford, Conn., contributed to this report.
Richard Novia, the school district's head of security until 2008, who also served as adviser for the school technology club, said Lanza clearly "had some disabilities."
"If that boy would've burned himself, he would not have known it or felt it physically," Novia told The Associated Press in a phone interview. "It was my job to pay close attention to that."
Novia was responsible for monitoring students as they used soldering tools and other potentially dangerous electrical equipment.
He recalled meeting with school guidance counselors, administrators and with the boy's mother, Nancy Lanza, to understand his problems and find ways to ensure his safety. But there were others crises only a mother could solve.
"He would have an episode, and she'd have to return or come to the high school and deal with it," Novia said, describing how the young man would sometimes withdraw completely "from whatever he was supposed to be doing," whether it was sitting in class or reading a book.
Adam Lanza "could take flight, which I think was the big issue, and it wasn't a rebellious or defiant thing," Novia said. "It was withdrawal."
Authorities on Saturday continued a wide-ranging investigating into the second-deadliest school shooting in U.S. history, trying to understand what led the young man to kill his mother in their home and then slaughter 26 children and adults at a Connecticut elementary school before taking his own life.
Back in their teenage years, Adam and his older brother, Ryan, were both members of the tech club, which offered students a chance to work on computers, videotape school events and produce public-access broadcasts.
It was popular among socially awkward students. But Adam, while clearly smart, had problems that went beyond an adolescent lack of social skills, Novia said.
"You had yourself a very scared young boy, who was very nervous around people he could trust or he refused to speak with," Novia said.
The club provided a setting for students to build lasting friendships. But while other members were acquainted with Adam, none was close to him.
"Have you found his best friend? Have you found a friend?" Novia asked. "You're not going to. He was a loner."
Adam was not physically bullied, although he may have been teased, Novia said.
The club gave the boy a place where he could be more at ease and indulge his interest in computers. His anxieties appeared to ease somewhat, but they never disappeared. When people approached him in the hallways, he would press himself against the wall or walk in a different direction, clutching tight to his black case.
"The behavior would be more like an 8-year-old who refuses to give up his teddy bear," Novia said. "What you knew with Adam is it was a possession. It was not a possession to be put at risk."
Even so, Novia said, his primary concern was that Adam might become a target for abuse by his fellow students, not that he might become a threat.
"Somewhere along in the last four years, there were significant changes that led to what has happened," Novia said. "I could never have foreseen him doing that."
Jim McDade, who lives a few houses from where Nancy Lanza was slain, said his family became acquainted with the two brothers and their mother because their children were about the same ages and rode the school bus together.
"There was certainly no indication of anything unusual that lets you think that a kid's going to do something like that," said McDade, who works in finance in New York. "There was nothing that would indicate anything going on behind the scenes that would lead to this horrible mess."
He recalled Adam Lanza as "a very bright kid."
Olivia DeVivo, a student at the University of Connecticut, was in Adam Lanza's 10th grade English class.
"He was very different and very shy and didn't make an effort to interact with anybody," she said.
DeVivo said Lanza always carried a briefcase and wore his shirts buttoned up to the top button. She said he seemed bright but never really participated in class.
"Now looking back, it's kind of like 'OK, he had all these signs,' but you can't say every shy person would do something like this."
On Saturday, a police car was parked in the driveway of the Stamford, Conn., home of Lanza's father, Peter Lanza. An officer stopped reporters who tried to approach the house.
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Associated Press writers Michael Melia and Jim Fitzgerald in Newtown, Conn., and Denise Lavoie in Stamford, Conn., contributed to this report.
We are seeing 7 year old photos of a troubled person, and nobody in the family saw, or did anything to prevent this?
yep theres more people that have the same name as him so theres a proplem
 hes from new jersey people closer to new york
Please take all photographs of this demented killer OFF of this website, mention his name as little as possible or preferably NEVER, and steadfastly DENY him the fame - even infamy - he sought by this carnage. NO PAYOFF!!!!
 @JLS1950 i think they have the wrong picture any ways cause more than one person can have that name with different middle entional . so they need to research more thoroughly than what they have done here they got it off line on someones account not from a book of pictures they just wanted to flash something up there and the guys picture there using is now in protective Costedy (P.C)
 @Kathryn Norton If so, then the real photo subject just hit MegaMillions.
But that is not the point: we need to avoid glorifying the perpetrator of this heinous crime - and that means not mentioning his name every five minutes or blasting his face over every TV screen, web page, tabloid, newspaper...
People who do these thing do them to be "famous" in their twisted minds. Bury the stories and they will realize that it's not going to work. Is that hard to understand?
I call bs on that. You are trying to tell me that the reason behind all these shooting is notoriety and i just don't buy it.
You are simplifying a highly complex matter and in doing so endanger yourself. If you screw this up and don't get it right, it will not stop. Plying your efforts to stifling this information is folly. Nothing good is ever gained in secrecy. You do this and you'll remove the ability to find out what's causing this.
The way you portray these people, it's as if they were normal people with no problems who just wanted their fifteen seconds. It's horse hockey. These people needed help, could have been identified earlier if we could have understood what the cause was. It's not enough for me to hear they were messed up in the head and wanted fame. We did not understand and now, we really really need to. You never stop something by reacting, you know this. Reacting only brings control, control has it's uses, but it has it's weaknesses. Control works until someone exploits it or finds a weakness in the controller. This guy shot through a window to get past the "safeguards" so in this i do not want control i want a solution and those only come when you understand the problem.
 @Glenn Gordon doesn't hide ) Notoriety is an inducement to copycat. We had the mall shooting in Oregon earlier last week, and then this: do you think there is not even a teensy bit of a connection? Count on it: the mall shooting was part of the trigger in this slaughter, just as shortly after the Aurora, Colorado theater massacre there was a thwarted attempt at a different theater, and I believe a third such since then. Sad fact is that these killers are looking for publicity - whether good or bad: the best way we have to discourage them right now may be to give them NO publicity.
The fact that this person will get notoriety is a bi-product. I am disturbed how you centralize this issue. I am more perplexed by how you think delusion on this subject is better than knowing the man that did this, understanding the best we can and doing what is possible to feasibly prevent this from happening in the future. You would rob the only possible positives that could ever come out of this and that is knowledge of why because only then can it be stopped. You would really prevent that by spreading your narrow view of the world? And this crap where you have to actualize these thoughts this man must have had but really they are your very own.... dude, i know it's a harsh issue but you are letting that cloud your thinking and commit to words, the precursor to action, things nearly as bad as some of the aspects in this tragedy.
The mother KNEW the boy had personality issues and also did not feel physical (or apparently emotional) pain, and yet she kept GUNS in her home??? If this is true, she is as culpable as her demented son! Was she an NRA member as well???
 @JLS1950 You're gonna blame her? really?
 @LadyRuck Do you think that once a person is deceased they automatically and retroactively become geniuses with almost obsessive attention to responsibility? Or that becoming a crime victim automatically absolves one of all error?
If the mother owned the guns, knew her son had a personality disorder, and yet failed to secure the weapons sufficiently to preven unauthorized access, then she is primally responsible for this entire tragedy: hers was the FIRST link in the safety chain to break!
 @JLS1950  @LadyRuck I find it ironic you would take a jab at an association of people out to educate the masses on proper gun use and safety while being shocked that some crazy nut went and shot up a school. It's ignorant and it's arrogant. This happened without a gun over seas. It happened with a knife. 22 children. Kind of blows your whole genre stereotyping out the window. Oh and as for your blaming the mother, using that logic, that infallible logic you are displaying now, you know about how mommy didn't do a good enough job securing them, yeah, look at bird feeders designed to stop squirrels by humans. It should prove to you that even the dumbest animals can get through the most well conceived devices.
He sounds like he had some sort of disasociative disorder, on the autism spectrum perhaps. Either way a mental illness or some sort of serious issue that might have been remedied with medical and or proper therapies or program. Mental illness is a serious problem in the country and although part of the issue here is guns, I think that its a smaller piece of a much larger problem. So...as politicians call for entitlement cuts think about that for a sec a ask yourself if you are prepared to deal with more cases such as this?
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When tragedies like this happen, we all seek to understand, justify, why and how this could have happened. But sometimes there is no answer as to why, or how it could have been prevented, and all we can do is show our sympathy and support and move on.
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As for the guns part of it, the same day in China a man went crazy and attacked a bunch of school children with a knife (he couldn't get a gun). There were 22 injuries, some serious. No deaths. So, for those that say guns don't kill people, people do, well, I think the gun helps.
If your son was like this, why have 4 guns in your home?
@Anarchy maybe she wanted to protect herself from him.
Goddamn, this is one stupid article. "If that boy would've burned himself, he would not have known it or felt it physically," I kept reading, expecting to see something about a meeting with the mother, authorities, anyone that inidicated this adviser raised an alarm, but I didnt. This was nothing more than another attempt by the media to bankroll this tragedy. I still do not know any of the names of the victims, but I do know the name of the murderer, thanks to the media.
 @northwestsurfer If you don't know the names AND AGES of the victims it's because you closed your eyes to the list.
@Commenter87643 I dont know them right now off the top of my head by heart because the media does not glamourize the victims like they do the shooter. You are ignorant, it has nothing to do with having closed eyes. Not a single news site has published the victims names that I have seen. Try this:
 "You want to know why. This may sound cynical, but here's why. It's because of the way the media reports it. Flip on the news and watch how we treat the Batman theater shooter and the Oregon mall shooter like celebrities. Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris are household names, but do you know the name of a single *victim* of Columbine? Dist...urbed people who would otherwise just off themselves in their basements see the news and want to top it by doing something worse, and going out in a memorable way. Why a grade school? Why children? Because he'll be remembered as a horrible monster, instead of a sad nobody. CNN's article says that if the body count "holds up", this will rank as the second deadliest shooting behind Virginia Tech, as if statistics somehow make one shooting worse than another. Then they post a video interview of third-graders for all the details of what they saw and heard while the shootings were happening. Fox News has plastered the killer's face on all their reports for hours. Any articles or news stories yet that focus on the victims and ignore the killer's identity? None that I've seen yet. Because they don't sell. So congratulations, sensationalist media, you've just lit the fire for someone to top this and knock off a day care center or a maternity ward next. You can help by forgetting you ever read this man's name, and remembering the name of at least one victim. You can help by donating to mental health research instead of pointing to gun control as the problem. You can help by turning off the news."
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@Koawoodplayer interesting he didn't say those words? I wondered when I read them, because I rarely agree with Morgan Freeman, but this time, I definitely agree. (whoever wrote it.)
@northwestsurfer It was found that Morgan Freeman never said those words. I am not disagreeing w/ this sentiment, however, but he did not say those words.
@Commenter87643 Fool, you are ignorant. You think because I cited one opinion article and not the one you cited, I know nothing more. You know nothing about mental illness except what you read in the news, I do.
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 @northwestsurfer  @Commenter87643 No, you are the ignorant one. Too dumb to do something simple like check a different news source:
http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/15/us/connecticut-shooting-victims/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
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And I seriously doubt that you'd find even ONE mass murderer that was diagnosed with mental illness that ever thought they'd harm anyone. None of those that were previously diagnosed even thought themselves capable of doing what they did, and here you are saying they premeditated it all just for the 'glory'.
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The Columbine killers do seem to have done their deeds for the glory, but theirs is different from other scenes because they killed people they knew that they felt had wronged them, where other mass murders have killed whoever happened to be at the wrong place at the wrong time.
This is just the media cashing in on tragedy. None of this is important. They're parading a murder's life in the news daily. Think about that for a moment. Nobody will know or remember the names of the victims, but we'll all remember every aspect of this kid's life.Â
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Our priorities are absolutely twisted around. Wake up. This is all about readership/viewership. It's disrespectful to those lost.Â
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"Adam was not physically bullied, although he may have been teased, Novia said."
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As a bullied AND teased individual at school, I don't condone the evil behavior or the heinous crime, but I completely understand how it can happen. Parents who have "popular" children who are so well liked, have everything and can do no wrong? ... should watch a video tape of a typical school day if there were such a thing in all other situations than the classroom and just see what goes on. It's the most degrading thing that can and will possibly ever happen. It robs confidence, self-worth and so much more. It's directed at innocent individuals and completely unfair, for what...popularity and the winning of followers?Â
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Invite the less fortunate who dont have all the sports and popularity gifts and befriend them, show them some love. If they end up making it to anything in life after such unfair and unnecessary riducule, they become the some of the most amazing individuals you will ever know!
What a BS article. The picture is 7 years out of date. The kid had been out of school for at least 3 years.
This is just a bunch of blah-blah-blah. I was physically bullied and had nearly all the same traits as Adam did when I was in school and I got two college degrees and turned out fine.
@Ecaro Modo That is wonderful that you succeeded in spite of your traits. I would love to know what you did to overcome those difficulties? Perhaps you are stronger than you thought? And you must be very smart too, and can have pride in yourself. I think possibly  the real problems are with kids that are not that smart, and don't learn as easily as others. Anyway, am glad to know you did well. Congratulations.
 @Ecaro Modo Then you are either very blessed or extremely lucky.
Then why the hell did his mother have so many unsecured weapons in her home? Â Ridiculous. In the past, kids like that would be living at some sort of home for his own protection. Â I guess it seems that the pharm industry and pop psychology and school districts are so hellbent on keeping people like that in the mainstream, when they clearly don't belong there.Â
 @DT they must of been locked up yet he knew the codes so he got them out
 @DT Honest question here, but where did you find that he was still living with his mother?
 @stamperzann You may have already answered your question by now, but I just now found this. All of the articles I've read so far refer to "the house he shared with his mother."
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However, in his defense, 20 is not disturbingly too old to be living at home still especially in this economy. Even a young man without his many social and mental health issues might have a hard time finding enough employment that pays enough to be self-supporting.Â
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@stamperzann @DT Any responsible gun owner (myself included) will secure their guns if they believe or know there is any threat to the public, themselves, or family by someone they know who has access to their guns.
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@northwestsurfer Those guns should have been locked up no matter who lived in, or was around the house. they can be stolen by anyone. But he could have stolen guns from anyone. The portland shooter stoled the gun he used for the mall shooting.
I too was bullied in school. My parents said I was diagnosed with psychosomatic ulcers at age 6. AGE 6! Well, my parents tried to intervene by changing teachers, changing schools, the schools then were not supportive. We eventually moved to a different school district. In my case, my 1st grade teacher was my bully. Of course, once the other kids see that kind of behavior, it didn't take long for them to join in. I still managed to make a few friends along the way, but never really got involved in school. But what it did do was make me tougher. I became a tomboy around those years, according to my father, more aware of my surroundings, and less trusting. All skills that eventually proved to protect me from horrific things (like the murder next door when I was 10). I never went postal though, always sided with the underdog and came to people's rescue when I saw bullying myself. My brother turned out the same way. So why then and not now? A kid that hovers against the walls or turns in the opposite direction when he doesn't really want to has more going on than we know. This kid was abused, whether psychologically, physically, but I feel in my gut that it was more than bullying. When a kid gets to a point where they can't look people in the eyes, can't walk in directions they want to, feel they have no where to turn, and envy those who seem to get it in this world.....well, we've got big problems!Â
 @Joy Johnson I'm sorry to hear this happened to you. I too was bullied by students and one "teacher" that should never have been let into a classroom ever. I can see why some kids have issues considering some schools are worthless when it comes to helping kids. On the other hand I still can't see why some kids turn wacko and think violence is the answer. Add to that this crazy overprotective approach to raising kids that parents don't let their kids learn to deal with and level of adversity and we get to where we are today (though I'm sure there are a 100 other factors). I've given up trying to figure it all out.
Need to do something about mental health in this country. Its possible the mother could have got him on SSI disability and then he could have got some free mental health help. Ancient history now. Seems to be an epidemic of mental health issues. With soldiers committing suicide everyday and virtually everyone of these mass shootings has been done by people who had mental problems, I think its clear its time to start addressing this issue.
 @Blindman Free mental health doesn't do one BIT of good if the person needing it won't even admit they need help!
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In case by now you haven't guessed, I have a family member that is in a bad state. I think, currently, not as bad as this, but I do fear that in the future...
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Yet there is not -even one thing- we can do to cause this one to get any kind of meaningful help.
 @Commenter87643  @Blindman Which are why laws should be changed.  In this state especially, families cannot involuntarily commit their loved ones when they are clearly in trouble.  Yes, there do need to be safeguards involved in this as well so it cannot be abused either.
 @stamperzann  @Blindman NODS emphatically! You can't do anything until it's proven that they're a danger to themselves or someone else and right then it's -too late-.
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I knew a guy once that said he felt like exploding inside, suicidal and feared he would hurt other people in the process. He was taken to St. Francis in Federal Way -and was turned away- because he couldn't say that this explosion was imminent!
@Blindman Agreed!
Having been the butt of bullies in my school years I know where this kid was. He hid within himself and did not express it to anyone because of embarrassment, fear, or not trusting anyone. To make a snap judgement about him is stupid and misleading. There are hundreds of kids out there that are abuse and down trodden by their classmates and no one knows or does anything about it. I was able to go beyond it without going postal on the kids or the school, but the memories are still there and I am now 69 yr old. Growing up back there is no easier than it is now. Only now the kids are more reactive and deadly if they decide to. Finding those kids, gaining their trust, slapping controls on the bully fractions would go a long way in keeping someone like him appearing again somewhere else.
 @LongBeachBum How dare you defend this piece of garbage....
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"To make a snap judgement about him is stupid and misleading. There are hundreds of kids out there that are abuse and down trodden by their classmates and no one knows or does anything about it."
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This man is a low life piece of trash, whether he had a mental illness, or bullied or whatever the eff, he does not deserve yours or anyone else' defense.
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 @LongBeachBum He was not bullied. Read the article. He was teased a bit, as most kids are for various reasons. Some people refuse to accept that their child should not be schooled in the mainstream. His issues made him unsuitable for the rigors of a regular school.Â
 @DT  @LongBeachBum As far as him not being bullied, you must consider the source - the school district head of security.  Administrators usually have very little idea of what is actually happening with regards to bullying in their schools. Â
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I can tell you, reading about his issues, I find it very hard to believe he was only "teased a bit".
Aspie kid. They can throw some tantrums.
@unobtanium Clay Marzo is a surfer, he is laid back and a nice guy. He has Asperger's syndrome also. Not everyone with Aspergers or mental illness throws tantrums. But then again, not everyone on the forum here is intelligent either, you cant help that though. Educate yourself, you are as about as intelligent as a brick my dog just pooped out of his butt.
 @unobtanium I assume you are referring to Asperger's? Still a pretty dumb statement there unobtanium. Like saying all people with red hair are Irish, or all people with an olive complexion are Italian. Perhaps a little dose of compassion would help you see things more clearly?
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1) Other news sources have reported this guy  had Asberger's, now classified as a mild form of Autism.
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2) I know a couple Aspies's - both adult males. Â Brilliant at certain things but quite difficult to work with and can toss a proper Conniption fit.
 @unobtanium  @Joy Johnson This horrific event is quite a bit more then a "conniption fit".  Stop minimizing it.
 @Commenter87643  @boeing737200  @unobtanium  @Joy Johnson Its an odd situation. Look at the infamous "N word". People complain how its a slur and that people shouldn't use it then use it themselves with regularity. Doesn't compute at all.
@Commenter87643 @boeing737200 @unobtanium @Joy Johnson No, it had nothing to do with Asperger's; the kid had AIDS, that made him do it. Everyone with AIDS is prone to violent and unexpected outbursts. Run!
 @boeing737200  @unobtanium  @Joy Johnson It's interesting how you call it a slur (although in THIS context it might be) and how many with Asperger's proudly call themselves 'Aspies'
 @unobtanium  @Joy Johnson Aspie is pretty much a slur stopping using it you.
@unobtanium @Joy Johnson You are correct on that one. Sure, not all people w/ Aspergers will become violent, but I know of one kid who, out of the blue decided to throw a ball with severe force right at the faces of some 6 year old kids. When asked why he did it, he said he did not know why he did. He did seem upset, but only b/c he knew he was going to get in trouble. It was just strange, b/c he said he did not know why he did it or what compelled him to do so! He certainly did not show any feelings towards the injured kids.
 @unobtanium A good example of ignorance right here.