Boy Scout 'perversion files' show locals helped cover up
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PORTLAND, Ore. (AP) - Again and again, decade after decade, an array of authorities - police chiefs, prosecutors, pastors and local Boy Scout leaders among them - quietly shielded scoutmasters and others accused of molesting children, a newly opened trove of confidential papers shows.
At the time, those authorities justified their actions as necessary to protect the good name and good works of Scouting, a pillar of 20th century America. But as detailed in 14,500 pages of secret "perversion files" released Thursday by order of the Oregon Supreme Court, their maneuvers allowed sexual predators to go free while victims suffered in silence.
The files are a window on a much larger collection of documents the Boy Scouts of America began collecting soon after their founding in 1910. The files, kept at Boy Scout headquarters in Texas, consist of memos from local and national Scout executives, handwritten letters from victims and their parents and newspaper clippings about legal cases. The files contain details about proven molesters, but also unsubstantiated allegations.
The allegations stretch across the country and to military bases overseas, from a small town in the Adirondacks to downtown Los Angeles.
At the news conference Thursday, Portland attorney Kelly Clark blasted the Boy Scouts for their continuing legal battles to try to keep the full trove of files secret.
"You do not keep secrets hidden about dangers to children," said Clark, who in 2010 won a landmark lawsuit against the Boy Scouts on behalf of a plaintiff who was molested by an assistant scoutmaster in the 1980s.
The Associated Press obtained copies of the files weeks in advance of Thursday's release and conducted an extensive review of them.
The files were shown to a jury in a 2010 Oregon civil suit that the Scouts lost, and the Oregon Supreme Court ruled the files should be made public. After months of objections and redactions, the Scouts and Clark released them.
In many instances - more than a third, according to the Scouts' own count - police weren't told about the reports of abuse. And even when they were, sometimes local law enforcement still did nothing, seeking to protect the name of Scouting over their victims.
Victims like three brothers, growing up in northeast Louisiana.
On the afternoon of Aug. 10, 1965, their distraught mother walked into the third floor of the Ouachita Parish Sheriff's Office. A 31-year-old scoutmaster, she told the chief criminal deputy, had raped one of her sons and molested two others.
Six days later, the scoutmaster, an unemployed airplane mechanic, sat down in front of a microphone in the same station, said he understood his rights and confessed: He had sexually abused the woman's sons more than once.
"I don't know how to tell it," the man told a sheriff's deputy. "They just occurred - I don't know an explanation, why we done it or I done it or wanted to do it or anything else it just - an impulse I guess or something.
"As far as an explanation I just couldn't dig one up."
He wouldn't have to. Seven days later, the decision was made not to pursue charges against the scoutmaster.
The last sliver of hope for justice for the abuse of two teenagers and an 11-year-old boy slipped away in a confidential letter from a Louisiana Scouts executive to the organization's national personnel division in New Jersey.
"This subject and Scouts were not prosecuted," the executive wrote, "to save the name of Scouting."
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An Associated Press review of the files found that the story of these brothers and their scoutmaster, however horrendous, was not unique.
The files released Thursday were collected between 1959 and 1985, with a handful of others from later years. Some have been released previously, but others - those from prior to 1971, including the story of the three scouts in Ouachita Parish - have been made public for the first time.
The documents reveal that on many occasions the files succeeded in keeping pedophiles out of Scouting leadership positions - the reason why they were collected in the first place. But the files are also littered with horrific accounts of alleged pedophiles who were able to continue in Scouting because of pressure from community leaders and local Scouts officials.
The files also document other troubling patterns. There is little mention in the files of concern for the welfare of Scouts who were abused by their leaders, or what was done for the victims. But there are numerous documents showing compassion for alleged abusers, who were often times sent to psychiatrists or pastors to get help.
In 1972, a local Scouting executive beseeched national headquarters to drop the case against a suspected abuser because he was undergoing professional treatment and was personally taking steps to solve his problem. "If it don't stink, don't stir it," the local executive wrote.
Scouting's efforts to keep abusers out were often disorganized. There's at least one memo from a local Scouting executive pleading for better guidance on how to handle abuse allegations. Sometimes the pleading went the other way, with national headquarters begging local leaders for information on suspected abusers, and the locals dragging their feet.
In numerous instances, alleged abusers are kicked out of Scouting but show up in jobs where they are once again in authority positions dealing with youths.
The files also show Scouting volunteers serving in the military overseas, molesting American children living abroad and sometimes continuing to molest after returning to the states.
But one of the most startling revelations to come from the files is the frequency with which attempts to protect Scouts from molesters collapsed at the local level, at times in collusion with community leaders.
It happened when a local district attorney declined to prosecute two confessed offenders; when a three-judge panel included two men on the local Scouting executive board; when law enforcement sought to protect the name of Scouting and let an admitted child molester go free.
Their actions represent a stark betrayal, says Clark, who won the case that opened the files to public view. "It's kind of a deal. The deal is, our society will give you incredible status and respect, Norman Rockwell will paint pictures of you, and in exchange for that, you take care of our kids," Clark said. "That's the deal, incredible respect and privilege. But there was a worm in the apple."
The Louisiana case certainly contained all the essentials for a police investigation and, perhaps, a conviction: The scoutmaster admitted to raping a 17-year-old boy on a camping trip and otherwise sexually molesting two other boys; the victims corroborated his confession. But evidently, no charges were ever filed.
The man was let off with a warning that should he be found with young men in the future, he was subject to immediate incarceration at the state prison.
The man "was asked to leave the parish, and if he was caught around or near any boy or youth organization, he would be sent to state prison immediately," a Scouting executive wrote to national headquarters. "We are indeed sorry that Scouting was involved."
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With the deadline to disclose the files looming, the Scouts in late September made public an internal review of the files and said they would look into past cases to see whether there were times when men they suspected of sex abuse should have been reported to police.
The files showed a "very low" incidence of abuse among Scout leaders, said psychiatrist Dr. Jennifer Warren, who conducted the review with a team of graduate students and served as an expert witness for the Scouts in the 2010 case that made the files public. Her review of the files didn't take into account the number of files destroyed on abusers who turned 75 years old or died, something she said would not have significantly affected the rate of abuse or her conclusions.
The rate of abuse among Scouts is the not the focus of their critics - it is, rather, their response to allegations of abuse. In the case of the files from 1965 to 1985, most salient is the complicity of local officials in concealing the abuse by Scouts leaders.
Warren told the AP such complicity "was simply quite a natural desire to want to be somewhat protective over (the BSA)."
Certain cases, well-detailed by the Scouts, illustrate how it happened.
In Newton, Kan., in 1961, the county attorney had what he needed for a prosecution: Two men were arrested and admitted that they had molested Scouts in their care.
One of the men said he held an all-night party at his house, during which he brought 10 boys, one by one, into a room where he committed, in his words, "immoral acts." The same man said he had molested Scouts on an outing two weeks prior to the interrogation.
But neither man was prosecuted. Once again, a powerful local official sought to preserve the name of Scouting.
The entire investigation, the county attorney wrote, was brought about with the cooperation of a local district Scouts executive, who was kept apprised of the investigation's progress into the men, who had affiliations with both the Scouts and the local YMCA.
"I came to the decision that to openly prosecute would cause great harm to the reputations of two organizations which we have involved here - the Boy Scouts of America and the local YMCA," he wrote in a letter to a Kansas Scouting executive.
He went on to say that the community would have to pay too great a price for the punishment of the two men. "The damage thusly done to these organizations would be serious and lasting," he wrote.
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When cases against Scouts volunteers or executives went forward, locals often tried and sometimes managed to keep the organization's name out of court documents and the media, protecting a valuable brand.
In Johnstown, Pa., in August 1962, a married 25-year-old steel mill worker with a high school education pleaded guilty to "serious morals" violations involving Scouts.
The Scouting executive who served as both mayor and police chief made sure of one thing: The Scouting name was never brought up. It went beyond the mayor to the members of a three-judge panel, who also deemed it important to keep the Scouts' names out of the press.
"No mention of Scouting was involved in the case in as much as two of the three judges who pronounced sentence are members of our Executive Board," the Scouts executive wrote to the national personnel division.
In Rutland, Vt., in 1964, William J. Moreau pleaded guilty to "having lewd relations" with an 11-year-old Scout, according to a contemporary newspaper account. According to the files, the 11-year-old was one of a dozen Scouts who stayed overnight at Vermont's Camp Sunrise. The Scouts, as is demonstrated repeatedly in the files, talked to the parents about their concern for "the name of the Scouting movement" if charges were brought, but were rebuffed - the parents were insistent on filing charges.
Moreau, a 27-year-old insurance adjuster and assistant Scoutmaster, resigned his position, but a local prosecutor and the police department made sure the Scouting name was never publicly associated with the crime, despite the fact that the abuse was conducted by a Scoutmaster on Scouts at a Scout camp.
"The States Attorney with whom I talked late last night and the local police assure me they will do everything in their power to keep Scouting's name and Camp Sunrise out of this," a local Scouts executive wrote in a letter to the national council headquarters.
In newspaper clippings attached to the files detailing Moreau's charges and his plea, no mention of the Scouts is ever made.
___
Over the years, the mandatory reporting of suspicions of child abuse by certain professionals would take hold nationally. Each state had its own law, and the federal Child Abuse Prevention and Treatment Act passed in 1974.
The Scouts, however, wouldn't institute mandatory reporting for suspected child abuse until 2010. They did incorporate other measures, such as a "two-deep" requirement that children be accompanied by at least two adults at all times, and made strides in their efforts to combat pedophilia within their ranks.
According to an analysis of the Scouts' confidential files by Patrick Boyle, a journalist who was the first to expose about efforts by the BSA to hide the extent of sex abuse among Boy Scout leaders, the Scouts documented internally less than 50 cases per year of Scout abuse by adults until 1983, when the reports began to climb, peaking at nearly 200 in 1989.
Attitudes on child sex abuse began to change after the 1974 law, said University of Houston professor Monit Cheung, a former social worker who has authored a book on child sex abuse.
"Before 1974, you could talk to a social worker who could (then) talk to a molester and that could maybe stop abuse," Cheung said, noting that most abuse happens within families.
But mandatory reporting made the failure to report suspected abuse a crime.
"That's the change, that you're no longer hiding the facts of abuse," Cheung said.
The case of Timothy Bagshaw in State College, Pa., is illustrative of the changing national attitude to mandatory reporting. Bagshaw, a Scouts leader, was convicted of two counts of corruption of minors in 1985. But he wasn't the only one to face charges.
The Scouts learned of the abuse months before it was reported, and forced Bagshaw to resign at a meeting, but he wasn't reported to police. That failure was costly for Juanita Valley Council director Roger W. Rauch, who was charged with failure to notify authorities of suspected child abuse.
"I didn't know I was supposed to contact anyone. I felt it was the parents' responsibility," Rauch told the Centre Daily Times in 1984. "We acted very responsibly.
"I'm concerned that this not get blown out of proportion."
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Associated Press writers Matt Sedensky in West Palm Beach, Fla.; Rebecca Boone in Boise, Idaho; and Shannon Dininny in Yakima, Wash., contributed to this report.
At the time, those authorities justified their actions as necessary to protect the good name and good works of Scouting, a pillar of 20th century America. But as detailed in 14,500 pages of secret "perversion files" released Thursday by order of the Oregon Supreme Court, their maneuvers allowed sexual predators to go free while victims suffered in silence.
The files are a window on a much larger collection of documents the Boy Scouts of America began collecting soon after their founding in 1910. The files, kept at Boy Scout headquarters in Texas, consist of memos from local and national Scout executives, handwritten letters from victims and their parents and newspaper clippings about legal cases. The files contain details about proven molesters, but also unsubstantiated allegations.
The allegations stretch across the country and to military bases overseas, from a small town in the Adirondacks to downtown Los Angeles.
At the news conference Thursday, Portland attorney Kelly Clark blasted the Boy Scouts for their continuing legal battles to try to keep the full trove of files secret.
"You do not keep secrets hidden about dangers to children," said Clark, who in 2010 won a landmark lawsuit against the Boy Scouts on behalf of a plaintiff who was molested by an assistant scoutmaster in the 1980s.
The Associated Press obtained copies of the files weeks in advance of Thursday's release and conducted an extensive review of them.
The files were shown to a jury in a 2010 Oregon civil suit that the Scouts lost, and the Oregon Supreme Court ruled the files should be made public. After months of objections and redactions, the Scouts and Clark released them.
In many instances - more than a third, according to the Scouts' own count - police weren't told about the reports of abuse. And even when they were, sometimes local law enforcement still did nothing, seeking to protect the name of Scouting over their victims.
Victims like three brothers, growing up in northeast Louisiana.
On the afternoon of Aug. 10, 1965, their distraught mother walked into the third floor of the Ouachita Parish Sheriff's Office. A 31-year-old scoutmaster, she told the chief criminal deputy, had raped one of her sons and molested two others.
Six days later, the scoutmaster, an unemployed airplane mechanic, sat down in front of a microphone in the same station, said he understood his rights and confessed: He had sexually abused the woman's sons more than once.
"I don't know how to tell it," the man told a sheriff's deputy. "They just occurred - I don't know an explanation, why we done it or I done it or wanted to do it or anything else it just - an impulse I guess or something.
"As far as an explanation I just couldn't dig one up."
He wouldn't have to. Seven days later, the decision was made not to pursue charges against the scoutmaster.
The last sliver of hope for justice for the abuse of two teenagers and an 11-year-old boy slipped away in a confidential letter from a Louisiana Scouts executive to the organization's national personnel division in New Jersey.
"This subject and Scouts were not prosecuted," the executive wrote, "to save the name of Scouting."
___
An Associated Press review of the files found that the story of these brothers and their scoutmaster, however horrendous, was not unique.
The files released Thursday were collected between 1959 and 1985, with a handful of others from later years. Some have been released previously, but others - those from prior to 1971, including the story of the three scouts in Ouachita Parish - have been made public for the first time.
The documents reveal that on many occasions the files succeeded in keeping pedophiles out of Scouting leadership positions - the reason why they were collected in the first place. But the files are also littered with horrific accounts of alleged pedophiles who were able to continue in Scouting because of pressure from community leaders and local Scouts officials.
The files also document other troubling patterns. There is little mention in the files of concern for the welfare of Scouts who were abused by their leaders, or what was done for the victims. But there are numerous documents showing compassion for alleged abusers, who were often times sent to psychiatrists or pastors to get help.
In 1972, a local Scouting executive beseeched national headquarters to drop the case against a suspected abuser because he was undergoing professional treatment and was personally taking steps to solve his problem. "If it don't stink, don't stir it," the local executive wrote.
Scouting's efforts to keep abusers out were often disorganized. There's at least one memo from a local Scouting executive pleading for better guidance on how to handle abuse allegations. Sometimes the pleading went the other way, with national headquarters begging local leaders for information on suspected abusers, and the locals dragging their feet.
In numerous instances, alleged abusers are kicked out of Scouting but show up in jobs where they are once again in authority positions dealing with youths.
The files also show Scouting volunteers serving in the military overseas, molesting American children living abroad and sometimes continuing to molest after returning to the states.
But one of the most startling revelations to come from the files is the frequency with which attempts to protect Scouts from molesters collapsed at the local level, at times in collusion with community leaders.
It happened when a local district attorney declined to prosecute two confessed offenders; when a three-judge panel included two men on the local Scouting executive board; when law enforcement sought to protect the name of Scouting and let an admitted child molester go free.
Their actions represent a stark betrayal, says Clark, who won the case that opened the files to public view. "It's kind of a deal. The deal is, our society will give you incredible status and respect, Norman Rockwell will paint pictures of you, and in exchange for that, you take care of our kids," Clark said. "That's the deal, incredible respect and privilege. But there was a worm in the apple."
The Louisiana case certainly contained all the essentials for a police investigation and, perhaps, a conviction: The scoutmaster admitted to raping a 17-year-old boy on a camping trip and otherwise sexually molesting two other boys; the victims corroborated his confession. But evidently, no charges were ever filed.
The man was let off with a warning that should he be found with young men in the future, he was subject to immediate incarceration at the state prison.
The man "was asked to leave the parish, and if he was caught around or near any boy or youth organization, he would be sent to state prison immediately," a Scouting executive wrote to national headquarters. "We are indeed sorry that Scouting was involved."
___
With the deadline to disclose the files looming, the Scouts in late September made public an internal review of the files and said they would look into past cases to see whether there were times when men they suspected of sex abuse should have been reported to police.
The files showed a "very low" incidence of abuse among Scout leaders, said psychiatrist Dr. Jennifer Warren, who conducted the review with a team of graduate students and served as an expert witness for the Scouts in the 2010 case that made the files public. Her review of the files didn't take into account the number of files destroyed on abusers who turned 75 years old or died, something she said would not have significantly affected the rate of abuse or her conclusions.
The rate of abuse among Scouts is the not the focus of their critics - it is, rather, their response to allegations of abuse. In the case of the files from 1965 to 1985, most salient is the complicity of local officials in concealing the abuse by Scouts leaders.
Warren told the AP such complicity "was simply quite a natural desire to want to be somewhat protective over (the BSA)."
Certain cases, well-detailed by the Scouts, illustrate how it happened.
In Newton, Kan., in 1961, the county attorney had what he needed for a prosecution: Two men were arrested and admitted that they had molested Scouts in their care.
One of the men said he held an all-night party at his house, during which he brought 10 boys, one by one, into a room where he committed, in his words, "immoral acts." The same man said he had molested Scouts on an outing two weeks prior to the interrogation.
But neither man was prosecuted. Once again, a powerful local official sought to preserve the name of Scouting.
The entire investigation, the county attorney wrote, was brought about with the cooperation of a local district Scouts executive, who was kept apprised of the investigation's progress into the men, who had affiliations with both the Scouts and the local YMCA.
"I came to the decision that to openly prosecute would cause great harm to the reputations of two organizations which we have involved here - the Boy Scouts of America and the local YMCA," he wrote in a letter to a Kansas Scouting executive.
He went on to say that the community would have to pay too great a price for the punishment of the two men. "The damage thusly done to these organizations would be serious and lasting," he wrote.
___
When cases against Scouts volunteers or executives went forward, locals often tried and sometimes managed to keep the organization's name out of court documents and the media, protecting a valuable brand.
In Johnstown, Pa., in August 1962, a married 25-year-old steel mill worker with a high school education pleaded guilty to "serious morals" violations involving Scouts.
The Scouting executive who served as both mayor and police chief made sure of one thing: The Scouting name was never brought up. It went beyond the mayor to the members of a three-judge panel, who also deemed it important to keep the Scouts' names out of the press.
"No mention of Scouting was involved in the case in as much as two of the three judges who pronounced sentence are members of our Executive Board," the Scouts executive wrote to the national personnel division.
In Rutland, Vt., in 1964, William J. Moreau pleaded guilty to "having lewd relations" with an 11-year-old Scout, according to a contemporary newspaper account. According to the files, the 11-year-old was one of a dozen Scouts who stayed overnight at Vermont's Camp Sunrise. The Scouts, as is demonstrated repeatedly in the files, talked to the parents about their concern for "the name of the Scouting movement" if charges were brought, but were rebuffed - the parents were insistent on filing charges.
Moreau, a 27-year-old insurance adjuster and assistant Scoutmaster, resigned his position, but a local prosecutor and the police department made sure the Scouting name was never publicly associated with the crime, despite the fact that the abuse was conducted by a Scoutmaster on Scouts at a Scout camp.
"The States Attorney with whom I talked late last night and the local police assure me they will do everything in their power to keep Scouting's name and Camp Sunrise out of this," a local Scouts executive wrote in a letter to the national council headquarters.
In newspaper clippings attached to the files detailing Moreau's charges and his plea, no mention of the Scouts is ever made.
___
Over the years, the mandatory reporting of suspicions of child abuse by certain professionals would take hold nationally. Each state had its own law, and the federal Child Abuse Prevention and Treatment Act passed in 1974.
The Scouts, however, wouldn't institute mandatory reporting for suspected child abuse until 2010. They did incorporate other measures, such as a "two-deep" requirement that children be accompanied by at least two adults at all times, and made strides in their efforts to combat pedophilia within their ranks.
According to an analysis of the Scouts' confidential files by Patrick Boyle, a journalist who was the first to expose about efforts by the BSA to hide the extent of sex abuse among Boy Scout leaders, the Scouts documented internally less than 50 cases per year of Scout abuse by adults until 1983, when the reports began to climb, peaking at nearly 200 in 1989.
Attitudes on child sex abuse began to change after the 1974 law, said University of Houston professor Monit Cheung, a former social worker who has authored a book on child sex abuse.
"Before 1974, you could talk to a social worker who could (then) talk to a molester and that could maybe stop abuse," Cheung said, noting that most abuse happens within families.
But mandatory reporting made the failure to report suspected abuse a crime.
"That's the change, that you're no longer hiding the facts of abuse," Cheung said.
The case of Timothy Bagshaw in State College, Pa., is illustrative of the changing national attitude to mandatory reporting. Bagshaw, a Scouts leader, was convicted of two counts of corruption of minors in 1985. But he wasn't the only one to face charges.
The Scouts learned of the abuse months before it was reported, and forced Bagshaw to resign at a meeting, but he wasn't reported to police. That failure was costly for Juanita Valley Council director Roger W. Rauch, who was charged with failure to notify authorities of suspected child abuse.
"I didn't know I was supposed to contact anyone. I felt it was the parents' responsibility," Rauch told the Centre Daily Times in 1984. "We acted very responsibly.
"I'm concerned that this not get blown out of proportion."
__
Associated Press writers Matt Sedensky in West Palm Beach, Fla.; Rebecca Boone in Boise, Idaho; and Shannon Dininny in Yakima, Wash., contributed to this report.
This is the end of the Boy Scouts. They will be sued for billions, and their insurance won't cover it. Prosecutors are going to have a field day with high-profile, high-percentage conviction cases, and hundreds of perverts will definitely be going to jail and be put on the sex offender registry for life.
Children need to be taught to always question authority.
"It happened when a local district attorney declined to prosecute two confessed offenders; when a three-judge panel included two men on the local Scouting executive board; when law enforcement sought to protect the name of Scouting and let an admitted child molester go free." Â
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Who? Â Who are these local people? Â We should all have the right to know the names of these corrupt locals. Â They should be prosecuted!!!
Imagine, Hundreds of thousands of American boys lives would have been better had they NOT joined the boy scouts.Â
@Andrew Bush The history of this mostly comes before 1985. Not all but most. Stories of back in the 50's. 60's and 70's and previous, when these issues were NOT discussed. Sexual abuse was ignored, shameful for the victims and swept under the rug as wtih so many other things. There was ignorance and denial for so many years. It just wasn't talked about. Not saying the boys scouts or legal entities involved shouldn't be held accountable but those were the days and times these people lived in.  When we as a community started bringing sexual abuse to the surface and out into the open, our ideals changed, the way we dealt with it changed and our view of the victims changed. We changed our laws, the way we keep our children safe and so did the scouts. They now have some of the strictest rules and training to preven these things from happening. No adult is to be alone with a child ever, period the end. Those volunteering and the scoutmasters are put through training on how to be on the lookout for signs of abuse and grooming and so forth. It is an excellent organization with an ugly past. The human race in general has a pretty ugly past.Â
"They did nothing. They turned their back. They claimed ignorance. In most cases, they never contacted the police. There is no more callous neglect of children's rights," said Tom Stewart, 50, who lives in Enumclaw, Wash.
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 @wally gruentenheimer It was the POLICE, the PROSECUTORS and the BOY SCOUTS who blocked holding many responsible for the rapes of these boys. Â
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It's the first two paragraphs of this story. Â Did you even read it? Â Here it is again below;Â
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"Again and again, decade after decade, an array of authorities - police chiefs, prosecutors, pastors and local Boy Scout leaders among them - quietly shielded scoutmasters and others accused of molesting children, a newly opened trove of confidential papers shows.
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At the time, those authorities justified their actions as necessary to protect the good name and good works of Scouting, a pillar of 20th century America. But as detailed in 14,500 pages of secret "perversion files" released Thursday by order of the Oregon Supreme Court, their maneuvers allowed sexual predators to go free while victims suffered in silence."
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That is OUTRAGEOUS!!! Â Â These Police, Prosecutors AND Pastors who helped with this organized pedophile protection group need to all be prosecuted. Â
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There is NO DOUBT they broke the laws and allowed these children to continue being raped!!!!
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 @wally gruentenheimer Fly off?  Nope just the facts.  I know you don't like the facts but you don't get to change them.  I know its sad. Â
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You still haven't explained your "and the homosexual community for denying it can happen." comment.  That makes no sense at all. Â
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Are you just a troll? Â
 @wally gruentenheimer Just like the straight community needs to take responsibility for heterosexual child abuse, right?
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 @Jolly  @wally gruentenheimer I've never heard anyone in the gay community deny that this happens. I am a female who was molested by a male at the age of four, by the way. I only bring that up because I want to point out to you that being molested by an adult is not any less horrible if it is an adult of the same or opposite gender. Adults having any sexual contact with any children is wrong.
 @wally gruentenheimer Also the notion that the homosexual community claims male on male child abuse never happens is ludicrous and completely untrue, so your whole supposition is null.
 @wally gruentenheimer No, it is a marker for an inability to come up with a logical response, because what you originally said made 0 sense and is pretty indefensible.
Hmmmm - seems whatever masquerades as Healthy Pure Americana --- just ---- is-----not.
My my my.
 @T-Prop I am sitting here contemplating why it seems that this crime happens within the context of an organization so often. Scouting, Priests - is it merely because there is opportunity? Or is it cloaking oneself in respectability and a position of trust? Both? There seems to be professions that attract pedophiles, obviously- the ones that provide access to children.
Take every one of them involved and put a bullet in their head. Â Bunch of sick people that have no excuse for helping cover up such abuse.
I truly dislike how, when taken in context of the whole, that such a small problem will take away from a great program. Â That the program name will be tarnished because of the choices of a few. Â How many stopped potential abuses, before they happened? Â How many leaders turned in other leaders who where making questionable choices? Â If you want to dredge up so much negative history, how about bringing up the positives. Â
I in no way defend those who covered up these unspeakable acts. Â They should be punished to the extend possible. Â BSA has learned and has taken steps to protect the youth in the program. Â How much positive change has taken place in the almost almost 20 years. Â How much has the organization stepped up in the last 20 years. Â I bet a greater amount than the Catholic church has
@S4tran I agree. A lot of things happened that shouldn've have just a few decades ago. The Scouts have made huge strides in protecting the youth. I hope that the horrible actions of a few sick men won't ruin the Scouting program years after the abuses occured.
Not defending the boy scouts or the catholic church in this but lets have a reality check here. 1 in 5 boys and 1 in 3 girls will be sexually assualted or molested before the age of 18 and i haven't checked the statistics lately but it's close to 90% of the time, someone the child knows. Look at your neighbor, your cousin, your uncle, your father, your husband, your brother, and as well, your sister or aunt respectively. These are not scary monster looking people or freaky strangers off the street or just a handful of pervs running around molesting all the kids. They are seemingly good people who live what we would deem a respective upstanding life. We trust them with our children, we trust them as our friends or collegues. Where ever there is a population of young people there will be adult predators looking for prey. As parents we need need to be so very diligent in educating our children to the best of our ability of what to do if they are ever treated inappropriately. Stranger danger is great but the majority of the time it is no stranger and we don't want to face that really. We would rather believe it's some savage monster with a big pedo flag waving than deal with the reality that it could be our spouse or family member. The catholic church and scouts destroyed lives by their denial and insistance on covering up these cases and they should be brought to justice. Lets remember that the further we go back in time, the less acceptible it was for it to even be discussed. It was not talked about, it was misunderstood and it went hidden in many lives for far too long. Those were the times we lived in. The scouts is a good program when it works properly, when our kids are safe. Just don't take for granted your childrens safety at any point. Educate your children and pass on the confidence to be able to speak out. Remember 1 in 5 boys and 1 in 3 girls.. before the age of 18... 90% of the time from someone they know... Look around you next time you around a group of children and count heads and just know how many of those children will have to heal from sexual abuse. Look around at the adults around you and try and guess just how many adults it will take to abuse that many children.
It's just as well they don't allow atheists to be members, I wouldn't want my grandson to be in the BSA.
This is a sad commentary on Scouting, but I too hope that the abused Scouts as well as the BSA can recover. I still worry that publishing files about people against whom only unsubstantiated allegations were made has the potential to destroy the lives of people who may not be guilty of anything.Â
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 @HullenbeckCowl http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bigotry
I hate to that this has been going on and I hope it doesn't tarnish BSA too much for the future. Â I was in Boy Scouts as a kid and the skills I learned there are still used by me today. Â My experience was very positive and I'll continue to recommend the BSA to anyone who asks about it, including my own children. Â
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If the BSA would have whack the first guy they caught then this would not be a story today. They followed the playbook of the catholic church; hush up and cover up year after year. For the life of me, I don't get!
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They made a big deal about gays knowlingly they had this problem. How do we look at people in positions of scout master, coaches, youth minister and wonder who your leaving your kid with.
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The BSA should remove every person alive today in a position of managment who even may have covered up.
I'm a catholic and I stopped donating until I was comfortable that my money wasn't pay off money. They still have a ways to go but it is getting better.
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As a coach, I will not hesitate to 911 anyone I think is doing a child wrong!
Well,  It turns out that Not only did the Boy Scouts hide all the rapes on children but it was also reported that Pastors, Police Chiefs and prosecutors were all in on hiding these rapes because it would "Damage the reputation of the Boy Scouts"
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When are these pastors, Police Chiefs and Prosecutors going to be charged with the crimes they have committed? Â Conspiracy, Tampering with evidence, etc etc etc.Â
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I wish this information did not tarnish all of the scout masters. I had a distant relative that worked tirelessly with the BSA his whole career. Raised three kids, provided a good life for his family, Â and retired at a decent age. There are some that are not like these monsters that abuse children. There are good men in this organization but, unfortunately we hear of only the wicked.
This is so unfair to those scout leaders who have done a great job over the years and helped these boys not harmed them. If the Boy Scouts had chosen to have these people prosecuted over the years it would have been better for the organization than what they have done. Not all of the leaders are bad people who harm children, but I'm sure now they will be suspect too. This whole thing is so sad.Â
I don't know what to think of this story - but I know much of it is very true. Growing up in Arizona, I heard a lot of horror stories from boys in school about 'stuff' that the Scoutmasters did to them - a lot of it was not sexual but looking back, I can see that a lot of the 'stuff' was hushed up then. The Mormon church was a big Scout promoter at the time and many of these scoutmasters were Mormon men. I don't know how they think covering up abuse of young boys is 'saving the integrity of the scouts' - that's a bunch of horse hockey of the worst kind. I'm glad this disgusting filth is being exposed.Â
I knew of a scout master who groomed boys with alcohol & gifts and molested them and he ended up getting a .22 cal bullet to the back of his head. I'd be willing to bet that anyone who lived in the North City area of Shoreline back in the 1970's knows exactly who I am talking about. We all kept our distance from him because it was known what he was like - but authorities never did anything about it. It was all quite hush hush (the molesting) but in the end he got what he deserved. The boys who pulled the trigger did a stint in prison for it and that was the unfortunate part. I'm sure he's in their files.
@maesmaze I didn't grow up here but I don't doubt what you say - glad somebody shot the SOB - at least one cockroach was put down. I'm glad this crap is coming to the light of day now about the scouts that's for sure.
These crimes seem to take place in the all men leadership roles either through law enforcement or the Catholic Church, or the all Men/Boys Scouts and just recently, Men/Boy Sports.
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It appears that this is a problem within the male community. How do you men explain this trend within your gender?   Â
 @NoKitty666 women do this too. It may be more prevalent among men, but I know several men who were molested as kids by adult women, and I'm sure any actual statistics would be surprising in that more women than we think have committed this type of crime.
The Boy Scouts are a christain religion based association. They think its very dangerous to have gay youth in their ranks but perfectly acceptable to have pedophiles. @NoKitty666
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The Boy Scouts are not a christian religion based association. A large number of troops, post, dens, etc are charted and sponsored by churches but not all. Scouting was found on military values primarily to teach youth basic skills to survive, community service, and good citizenship. The list is not a list of those who are in scouting but those who are banned from scouting. As the full story points out the scouting organization failed in some cases by not reporting to the authorities. However in many of the cases it was attributed to the sponsoring organization (churches) pressuring them to not do anything as these were well known people in the community. In other cases the abuse was reported and the law enforcement community failed to take action to protect the reputation of the person involved.
No to gays but yes to pedophiles..
Exactly! This Eagle Scout is ashamed and disgraced again by the Boy Scouts. Fortunately, my time in scouting was awesome and had a huge positive influence on me. My scout leaders were worthy of the leadership entrusted to them. I can only hope serious changes are made in the organization I onced loved that continues to preach bigotry and now is found to be complicit (at least) in the molestation of its children.
 @Sanctuary Since they don't differentiate that's not at all surprising. Pedophiles aren't necessarily gay, but they assumed that all gays are pedophiles. That simple ignorance and cover-up let this happen.
Good article, they pretty much covered the entire spectrum of those who are in positions of authority. Lawyer / Politicians, Law Enforcement, Church, et al. Whether it's a job sitting in judgement of another human being, custodial, spiritual, it's all the same, what kind of people gravitate towards positions of authority? This kind. This is the reason, or at least a part of, that anyone in a position of authority should be watched closely, without trust and faith, and held accountable without immunity of any kind.
Bellevue attorney Tim Kosnoff has a more recent list of those banned from the BSA for sexual misdeeds against scouts. Â The list is here: Â http://kosnoff.com/BSA-perversion-by-name.pdf
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Wasn't Romney an Eagle Scout?
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Baden-Powell, the founder, was a pedophile. He also helped set up the Hitler youth. An organization that does not let gay kids or atheists join should have been put out of business a long time ago.
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you may want to do a better job researching your statements. Baden-Powell founded the scout movement in England and was a British military officer. Atheist are not prevented from being scouts. However gay kids are and hopefully in the very near future that will change as the organization comes to its senses and stops letting the conservative religious groups dictate policy
 @midwestnative he was British and a pervert. Atheists are excluded from the boyscouts. See posts above.
The pervert scouts.... never trust your kid with any of these scum suckers! I hope they decide to get rid of the Boy Scouts.... sounds just like the Catholic Church a haven for sexual predators!
It's time for President Obama to stop serving as the honorary president of the Boy Scouts of America.Â
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Its god's will.
I foresee huge lawsuits which will hopefully put the Boy Scouts out of business. Â Every officer that had knowledge of this should be fired and probably included in the lawsuits.
Catholic church's official response > Impressive! Bravo!  Is it really necessary for me to indicate sarcasm? I'd better. <SARCASM>
Bottom line. Not only should the offenders be prosecuted, but also those that were aware of it but didn't report it should be prosecuted as well.Â
From the degree of coverups, it is as though this whole organization was established for one thing, and one thing only.