Smoker burned when she accidentally ignites hair

@Furd Becasue those place are de facto smoking areas now, because of the majority rule. Congrats if you didn't vote for this poorly written law, but don't blame the smokers for going where the majority wanted them....you could call the depatment of health if they are within 25 feet of the doors, but good luck w/ that (they don't respond).

 @WalletVoter I didn't vote for any such thing.  I actually DO think the law went too far.  I actually DO think that taverns and restaurants and private clubs should be able to have smoking rooms isolated from the non-smoking areas or that certain establishments may be all smoking and the non-smokers can just stay away.  But that isn't the way it is.

 

Further, what about those places that we all go like grocery and department stores?  I can easily avoid the tavern or occasional restaurant but I have to go to the grocery store just like everyone else.  Why should I or anyone else have to run the phalanx of smokers that can't make the walk from their car to the door?

"Don't be stupid"?  You have such a way of interacting with others.

@SJ   Dont be stupid.  Nowhere in my post did I say "all smokers get government health care, food stamps or public assistance".  I said it irritates me the one who do

@SJ   Dont be stupid.  Nowhere in my post did I say "all smokers get government health care, food stamps or public assistance".  I said it irritates me the one who do.

No, I don't think so.  From reading other things you have posted you would just find something else to complain about.

Wrong!  In YOUR opinion!

@Furd Sorry again, Furd - by voting for the law, you forced building owners to remove the ashtrays to avoid being charged w/ allowing smoking within 25 feet (not that there is anyone to enforce this). You got exactly what you wanted, so feel free to keep yapping....smokers are more likely to tune you out now because of your (and others) vote.

 @scared_citizen Just wonder how you know that every smoker you see is on public assistance, do you hang out at the welfare offices? 

 @scared_citizen Sorry to inform you, but not all smokers get government health care, food stamps or public assistance, and if I'm not mistaken, smokers pay taxes also, it is none of your business how people spend THEIR money.

 @Jatok When I don't have to breathe their disgusting smoke, when I don't have to wade through their disgusting butts and when I don't have to smell the disgusting odor in their clothes is when I will shut up.

@Jatok   Wrong!  When health care is provided by the governement (taxpayers), I believe I ABSOLUTELY have a vested interest in people not smoking.  It irritates me to no end when I see people on public assistance spending money on cigarettes, whether they buy them using foodstamp money or not.  If they didnt buy the cigarettes, they would be able to feed themselves more on their own.  Then they want to get free health care so they feel better after killing themselves with smoke.

 @MomOf2  @Jatok Good call, I agree, and maybe some are still not aware that nicotine is a powerful drug, I've heard it said it's harder to kick nicotine then it is heroin, don't know, but I do know nicotine is very addictive, I battled it for many years, hard habit to break, I think the majority of smokers really do want to quit, but again it is an addiction, by choice like any other drug, and very hard to break.

@Jatok I'm with you  I am not a smoker now nor have i ever been BUT I am tired of hearing other non smokers bitch about those who do smoke.  Don't like it? Don't do it, but leave those who do chose to smoke alone- they know the risks and have made their choice.  My grandfather was a smoker, yes he is now dead but it wasn't from the cigs.  My brother smokes, drinks, etc yet he is much healthier than I am...   

 @Furd  You make it sound like there are 100's of people crowded around these doors smoking so much there are literal clouds of smoke to pass threw, believe me, the exhaust from cars, buses, trucks, and the smog will get you before the second hand smoke will.

 @alildifferent  Just how much less could you care?

 

Maybe you hold your breath when you have to pass through the crowd 26 feet from the door, I can't.  I have an extreme reaction to cigarette smoke and I cough when I have to pass through the clouds of smoke.  Why should MY right to breathe easily be infringed upon by people that don't give a damn about my health?

@Furd - Well I'm not a smoker and I am not even affected by it because it's not allowed in places I go to and even outside the smoker has to be what is it like 25 feet away and I rarely even get a whiff of it in such instances. I really don't want to police smokers as long as they aren't smoking around non-smokers in an enclosed area I could care less. Like I said, everything can and will eventually kill you even if you live the very best life. I guess I just don't have the time and energy to tell them over and over again their habit stinks. More important things to be done.

 @GorgeTraveler  WW II was over 67 years ago.  Most of that generation is now dead or close to it.  Both my parents were smokers and even I had maybe a dozen cigarettes in my life, all before I turned 14.  Both of my parents kicked the habit, albeit too late for their health.  I watched my mother suffer on oxygen 24/7 the last few years of her life.  I KNOW what smoking can do to people.

 

I also have known too many people that have kicked the habit to believe that "some people can't quit".  Most have done it "cold turkey" although some have needed the crutch of a rubber cigarette or nicotine gum or patches.  Smoking has NO redeeming qualities.  If you have children you are doing them a great disservice by smoking, both for their health and for the psychological attitude that smoking is okay.

 

But go ahead and put yourself into an early grave.

 @Furd I have been approached on many occasions and ask if I have a cigarette, why I don't know, and not once have I jumped on the pulpit and started in on the evils of smoking, everyone knows smoking is not a healthy choice, but it is their choice, like it or not, and please, don't lump all who smoke as being dependent on the welfare system for their health care, related to smoking or not.

 @Furd Maybe you didn't hear me, I DON'T SMOKE, is that a little louder? but I don't condem those who choose to smoke, the best thing I can suggest is , if you are on your way into a public building and all them nasty smokers are hanging around the door to hamper your breathing fresh air, maybe wait until the wind shifts away from your way,and make a run for it..

 @SJ When someone smokes in an area that I cannot avoid that smoker takes away MY choice to breathe relatively clean air.  Or is it ONLY smokers that get to have choices?

 

I NEVER stated that ALL smokers use taxpayer funded medical services but eventually all smokers WILL be using taxpayer funded medical services.

 

Smoke all you want, just don't ask me to support your habit in any way, shape or form.

 @Furd  What makes you think everyone who smokes uses taxpayer money for medical services? ok, you have a right to your anti-smoking rants, but you know Furd, there are others who may not share your opinion, a smoker has as much right to stand 26 feet from a building and puff away if they choose, smoke around you? chance are 6 million to 1, I personally don't smoke, that was MY CHOICE, but I don't rant and rave about, nor begrudge those that do, they have as much right to make a choice as you or I, and I certainly don't think just because one smokes they are living off taxpayer money, I sincerely hope you never have a non-smoking accident or illness that lands you in a hospital, not just once, but enough times where you can not pay the price and just might need a little assistance from your fellow tax payers to keep you in your home.

 @SJ  I gave up all alcoholic beverages many years ago.  Further, as I have stated several times, I don't care if you or anyone else smokes nor do I care what you smoke.  Just don't smoke around me, and that includes the space 26 feet from the entrance to public buildings.  And don't use any government (taxpayer) funded medical services to cover your smoking-related illnesses.

 @Furd  I don't think it's anyones business if one chooses to smoke, and that includes "Ciggies", cigars, pipes, pot, hash, blunts, etc. it might be a good idea for you to police your own habits and let smokers deal with theirs, no more beer for you, we don't need anymore alcoholics, drunk drivers and people with cirrhosis.