TSA to allow small knives, bats, clubs on planes
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WASHINGTON (AP) - Airline passengers will be able to carry small knives, souvenir baseball bats, golf clubs and other sports equipment onto planes beginning next month under a policy change announced Tuesday by the head of the Transportation Security Administration.
The new policy conforms U.S. security standards to international standards, and allows TSA to concentrate its energies on more serious safety threats, the agency said in a statement.
The announcement, made by TSA Administrator John Pistole at an airline industry gathering in New York, drew an immediate outcry from unions representing flight attendants and other airline workers, who said the items are still dangerous in the hands of the wrong passengers.
Transport Workers Union Local 556, which represents more than 10,000 flight attendants at Southwest Airlines, called the new policy "dangerous" and "shortsighted," saying it was designed to make "the lives of TSA staff easier, but not make flights safer."
"While we agree that a passenger wielding a small knife or swinging a golf club or hockey stick poses less of a threat to the pilot locked in the cockpit, these are real threats to passengers and flight attendants in the passenger cabin," the union said in a statement.
The policy change was based on a recommendation from an internal TSA working group, which decided the items represented no real danger, David Castelveter, a spokesman for the agency, said.
The presence on flights of gun-carrying pilots traveling as passengers, federal air marshals and airline crew members trained in self-defense provide additional layers of security to protect against misuse of the items, he said.
There has been a gradual easing of some of the security measures applied to airline passengers after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. In 2005, the TSA changed its policies to allow passengers to carry on airplanes small scissors, knitting needles, tweezers, nail clippers and up to four books of matches. The move came as the agency turned its focus toward keeping explosives off planes, because intelligence officials believed that was the greatest threat to commercial aviation.
And in September 2011, the TSA no longer required children 12 years old and under to remove their shoes at airport checkpoints. The agency recently issued new guidelines for travelers 75 and older so they can avoid removing shoes and light jackets when they go through airport security checkpoints.
The new policy conforms U.S. security standards to international standards, and allows TSA to concentrate its energies on more serious safety threats, the agency said in a statement.
The announcement, made by TSA Administrator John Pistole at an airline industry gathering in New York, drew an immediate outcry from unions representing flight attendants and other airline workers, who said the items are still dangerous in the hands of the wrong passengers.
Transport Workers Union Local 556, which represents more than 10,000 flight attendants at Southwest Airlines, called the new policy "dangerous" and "shortsighted," saying it was designed to make "the lives of TSA staff easier, but not make flights safer."
"While we agree that a passenger wielding a small knife or swinging a golf club or hockey stick poses less of a threat to the pilot locked in the cockpit, these are real threats to passengers and flight attendants in the passenger cabin," the union said in a statement.
The policy change was based on a recommendation from an internal TSA working group, which decided the items represented no real danger, David Castelveter, a spokesman for the agency, said.
The presence on flights of gun-carrying pilots traveling as passengers, federal air marshals and airline crew members trained in self-defense provide additional layers of security to protect against misuse of the items, he said.
There has been a gradual easing of some of the security measures applied to airline passengers after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. In 2005, the TSA changed its policies to allow passengers to carry on airplanes small scissors, knitting needles, tweezers, nail clippers and up to four books of matches. The move came as the agency turned its focus toward keeping explosives off planes, because intelligence officials believed that was the greatest threat to commercial aviation.
And in September 2011, the TSA no longer required children 12 years old and under to remove their shoes at airport checkpoints. The agency recently issued new guidelines for travelers 75 and older so they can avoid removing shoes and light jackets when they go through airport security checkpoints.
Stupidity runs rampant here and has since 911. Any TRAINED person can kill you with a plastic straw, sharpened credit card or the one that I learned in basic training is to sharpen the forward edge of your military belt buckle and it becomes a knife. If you want total safety don't fly, don't drive and don't walk. The other option is check all bags and everyone wear a speedo or string bikini I can't believe people who go ballistic over nothing.
So, I still can't carry a cup of coffee, bottle of Evian, tube of hand lotion or toothpaste, bottle of shampoo, or cologne but a knife, bat, golf club, or lacrosse stick is OK. A knife!?! Really, this is what TSA has come up with. What a bunch of brain surgeons. A small pocketknife can be sharpened to quite an edge and then what? It doesn't pose a threat because it's small? Box cutters aren't very big but they were big enough to gain control of those airplanes on 09/11.  Â
Mike
If one person caries a knife on board, all of us will have to carry knives.
Golf clubs? Â Just how are those going to fit in the overhead or under the seat? Â
Some one was paid off!! I smell a rat in Denmark!! Yeah some idiot paid some one off!!! This is so stupid that it's hard to form the words in my own mouth as I read!!Â
WE ARE DAMN STUPID!!
Well then,....get to steppin 09/11 folks the road is clear for you all to take 5 thousand lives yet again!!! Ih but you must never travel with shampoo or hand lotion!! That is a sin!!! And it is illegal!!Â
MUSLIMS ani-up!! It's your game!! Have fun since the AMERICAN people are yet once again turning a BLIND EYE!!! WE ARE THE MOST STUPID HUMANS OF THE HUMAN RACE...THE AMERICANS that is!!
I blame no one but the USA
This bloated bureaucracy called TSA (Thousands Standing Around ) needs to go away. I don't think we are any safer.
@al_wa I agree.
This is TSA at work:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/shocker-tsa-has-been-molesting-children-for-years.html
"While we agree that a passenger wielding a small knife or swinging a golf club or hockey stick poses less of a threat to the pilot locked in the cockpit, these are real threats to passengers and flight attendants in the passenger cabin," the union said in a statement.
Like a golf club or a hockey stick can't beak a window or crack some heads.
How about the safety of the passengers, don't we count.
@Tacobender50Â TSA does not exist to keep you as a passenger safe. It exists (as flawed as the concept may be) to make sure your flight is not turned into a steerable bomb. Same with police they are there to protect the greater public safety not the individual. Any additional safety you recieve is just a biproduct.
TSA is proof that the terrorists have won.
They'll allow this until you decide that you're simply not going to allow them to molest your children. Then you'll quickly find yourself in prison without charges or even release date.Â
But you can't bring a bottle of water from the grocery store that cost 12 cents. You have to buy one on the other side of TSA checkpoint for $5.00
@dmw2913Â Its for your safety, just like being irradiated is.lol What a nation of idiots to keep putting up with this nonsense from our elected leaders.
@Blindman @dmw2913 I don't put up with it, I haven't flown since 9/11. Not out of any fear of terrorism as much as the obnoxious and ineffective TSA.
@Furd @Blindman @dmw2913 Notice that a lot of people refer to us as sheep. The sheep is the second stupidest animal on this earth and there is a good reason that the Bible refers to us as sheep.
Personally I miss the good old days where the pilot would come back into the 1st class section and have a few drinks with us.lol
I miss the old days when we in coach used to throw stuff at those in 1st class...
@bartle_doo I'm not old but I'm old enough to remember when everyone would gather at the back of the jet to smoke and have drinks. Remember when flying used to be fun?
@MikeCoomer @bartle_doo Good ol' TWA
Oh no, now all the terrorists that have been hiding behind all these trees are going to come out and stab us in the throat as we are being brutalized by the TSA. Fear fear fear, hate hate hate.
@Blindman I don't love the TSA, that's for sure, mostly because their tactics are so randomly applied and unrooted in any sort of logic.  But, if you think there's no threat to the safety of airplane passengers from terrorists, you're dreaming. Â
@belsnickles @Blindman If you think there is no threat from drive by shootings your dreaming.
If you think there is no threat from drunk drivers you are dreaming. Yhere is no safe place, give up your fears and live life.
@belsnickles @Blindman I take a risk of dieing every time I leave my house, cross the street, or drive my car. Air travel had a lower percentage of deaths than automotive travel before 911 and still does today. I'll take the risk over being frisked every time I go through security.
@Keysontheright @belsnickles @Blindman AMEN!
@belsnickles @Blindman thats true, but we in America decided that we cannot use profiling to find those who are most likely to be terrorists, so we have to degrade all of the citizens in an attempt to randomly root out a stupid terrorist.
@Jalharad @belsnickles @Blindman Actually not "we" but just a handful of people in high positions.
wow, they finally figured out it's not that hard to bring a knife on a plane
@Ride hard or go home Some years ago, I forgot I was wearing my Leatherman and got through TSA with it. Amazingly, I didn't try to hijack the airplane.
@Glassman @Ride hard or go home
most people don't try to hijack, but after serving the military and training security teams, most security measures are to make people feel better. they can be circumvented fairly easily
@Ride hard or go home @Glassman Another Amen for this. Any trained person can kill you.
...but yet we still let people soaked in noxious perfumes and Axe body spray onboard. Â
@wsmith_84 Or the people who smoke in their closed car and can't tell how bad the smell.
@wsmith_84 you must be used to BO
@Lrry*x*KÂ @wsmith_84 BO would be preferred over some of those perfumes.
Can we carry knitting needles now?Â
@DTÂ Yes, but you are prohibited from knitting an Afghan. Â :-D
@Glassman
They tend to bend the needles.
Books of matches? Â Who's using those?
@HawkEyeÂ
Used one yesterday.