UN ambassador says Libya attack was spontaneous

WASHINGTON (AP) - A high-powered assault on the U.S. Consulate in Libya was a spontaneous reaction to an anti-Muslim video, the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations said Sunday, not a premeditated assault tied to the anniversary of the Sept. 11 attacks.
Unnerved by the rapidly escalating raid on Tuesday that claimed the life of the ambassador to Libya and three other Americans, the White House last week launched an investigation into whether terrorist groups had exploited outrage over the video to trigger an attack long in the works.
But Ambassador Susan Rice said evidence gathered so far shows no indications of a premeditated or coordinated strike. She said the deadly protest in Benghazi appeared to be a copycat of demonstrations that had erupted hours earlier outside the U.S. Embassy in Cairo, spurred by a YouTube film mocking the Prophet Muhammad.
"It seems to have been hijacked, let us say, by some individual clusters of extremists who came with heavier weapons," Rice said adding that such weaponry is easy to come by in post-revolutionary Libya.
Whether those extremists had ties to al-Qaida or other terrorist groups has yet to be determined, Rice said, noting that the FBI has yet to complete its investigation.
It wouldn't be the first time that Western works critical of Islam has triggered spontaneous unrest throughout the Middle East, she said, pointing to Salman Rushdie's novel "Satanic Verses" and the cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad published by a Danish newspaper in 2006.
But Rep. Mike Rogers, the House Intelligence Committee chair, said it was premature to rule out a premeditated attack.
"There's huge gaps in what we know," he said.
A former FBI agent, Rogers said there were too many coincidences to conclude the attacks hadn't been planned in advance. First, there's the timing: the 11th anniversary of the worst terrorist attack on U.S. soil. There's the use of rockets and military-style coordination - indirect fire mixed with direct fire. Then there's the daunting fact that protesters managed to repel significant Libyan forces summoned to rescue those at the U.S. outpost.
"There's other information, classified information we have that just makes you stop for a minute and pause," Rogers said, without elaborating.
What started with protesters scaling the embassy wall in Cairo on Tuesday over an amateurish video deriding Islam's holiest figure has mushroomed into a maelstrom of disquiet throughout the Muslim world. In Libya, U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans were killed when protesters stormed the consulate in Benghazi. Anti-U.S. protests in 20 countries led the Pentagon to dispatch elite Marine antiterrorism teams to Libya and Yemen and to position two Navy warships off Libya's coast.
Meanwhile, the State Department ordered all nonessential U.S. government workers and their families out of Sudan and Tunisia. In Lebanon, protesters torched an American fast-food restaurant. Even as tensions appeared to be easing Saturday, al-Qaida's most active Mideast branch was calling for further attacks on U.S. embassies.
"It's approximately a reaction to this video, and it's a hateful video that had nothing to do with the United States and which we find disgusting and reprehensible," Rice said.
Rice's comments appeared to mark a departure from an earlier State Department position.
Citing the ongoing FBI probe, State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland said Friday that until the Justice Department was ready to talk, no details would be released. "Not who they were, not how they happened, not what happened to Ambassador Stevens - not any of it."
But the uncertainty of an anxious nation questioning what was gained by U.S. support for democratic, pro-Islamic uprisings in Muslim countries has created a sense of urgency that has been difficult for the Obama administration to ignore. The turbulence has also become a major issue in President Barack Obama's re-election campaign, with the Republican rival for the White House, Mitt Romney, laying blame on the president and accusing him of apologizing for the U.S.
Doubts also persist about whether security measures in place to protect U.S. diplomatic missions, which were overwhelmed in Benghazi, were sufficient.
Rice said the U.S. had "no actionable intelligence" about any imminent attack in Benghazi, and that security was beefed up in Cairo following signs that the YouTube video might spark protests. She said foreign governments are stepping up to condemn the violence and to fulfill their obligations to protect U.S. embassies.
Rice said it's too early to judge whether security should have been stronger in Libya. U.S. Marines, who commonly protect embassies abroad, were not assigned to the Benghazi consulate, the State Department has said. At the embassy in Cairo, Rice said, protections initially afforded by the Egyptian government fell short.
"When President Obama picked up the phone and spoke to the President (Mohammed) Morsi, right away things changed," Rice said. "And that's an evidence of our influence and our impact."
Rice and Rogers spoke on "Fox News Sunday." Rice also appeared on NBC's "Meet the Press."
Unnerved by the rapidly escalating raid on Tuesday that claimed the life of the ambassador to Libya and three other Americans, the White House last week launched an investigation into whether terrorist groups had exploited outrage over the video to trigger an attack long in the works.
But Ambassador Susan Rice said evidence gathered so far shows no indications of a premeditated or coordinated strike. She said the deadly protest in Benghazi appeared to be a copycat of demonstrations that had erupted hours earlier outside the U.S. Embassy in Cairo, spurred by a YouTube film mocking the Prophet Muhammad.
"It seems to have been hijacked, let us say, by some individual clusters of extremists who came with heavier weapons," Rice said adding that such weaponry is easy to come by in post-revolutionary Libya.
Whether those extremists had ties to al-Qaida or other terrorist groups has yet to be determined, Rice said, noting that the FBI has yet to complete its investigation.
It wouldn't be the first time that Western works critical of Islam has triggered spontaneous unrest throughout the Middle East, she said, pointing to Salman Rushdie's novel "Satanic Verses" and the cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad published by a Danish newspaper in 2006.
But Rep. Mike Rogers, the House Intelligence Committee chair, said it was premature to rule out a premeditated attack.
"There's huge gaps in what we know," he said.
A former FBI agent, Rogers said there were too many coincidences to conclude the attacks hadn't been planned in advance. First, there's the timing: the 11th anniversary of the worst terrorist attack on U.S. soil. There's the use of rockets and military-style coordination - indirect fire mixed with direct fire. Then there's the daunting fact that protesters managed to repel significant Libyan forces summoned to rescue those at the U.S. outpost.
"There's other information, classified information we have that just makes you stop for a minute and pause," Rogers said, without elaborating.
What started with protesters scaling the embassy wall in Cairo on Tuesday over an amateurish video deriding Islam's holiest figure has mushroomed into a maelstrom of disquiet throughout the Muslim world. In Libya, U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans were killed when protesters stormed the consulate in Benghazi. Anti-U.S. protests in 20 countries led the Pentagon to dispatch elite Marine antiterrorism teams to Libya and Yemen and to position two Navy warships off Libya's coast.
Meanwhile, the State Department ordered all nonessential U.S. government workers and their families out of Sudan and Tunisia. In Lebanon, protesters torched an American fast-food restaurant. Even as tensions appeared to be easing Saturday, al-Qaida's most active Mideast branch was calling for further attacks on U.S. embassies.
"It's approximately a reaction to this video, and it's a hateful video that had nothing to do with the United States and which we find disgusting and reprehensible," Rice said.
Rice's comments appeared to mark a departure from an earlier State Department position.
Citing the ongoing FBI probe, State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland said Friday that until the Justice Department was ready to talk, no details would be released. "Not who they were, not how they happened, not what happened to Ambassador Stevens - not any of it."
But the uncertainty of an anxious nation questioning what was gained by U.S. support for democratic, pro-Islamic uprisings in Muslim countries has created a sense of urgency that has been difficult for the Obama administration to ignore. The turbulence has also become a major issue in President Barack Obama's re-election campaign, with the Republican rival for the White House, Mitt Romney, laying blame on the president and accusing him of apologizing for the U.S.
Doubts also persist about whether security measures in place to protect U.S. diplomatic missions, which were overwhelmed in Benghazi, were sufficient.
Rice said the U.S. had "no actionable intelligence" about any imminent attack in Benghazi, and that security was beefed up in Cairo following signs that the YouTube video might spark protests. She said foreign governments are stepping up to condemn the violence and to fulfill their obligations to protect U.S. embassies.
Rice said it's too early to judge whether security should have been stronger in Libya. U.S. Marines, who commonly protect embassies abroad, were not assigned to the Benghazi consulate, the State Department has said. At the embassy in Cairo, Rice said, protections initially afforded by the Egyptian government fell short.
"When President Obama picked up the phone and spoke to the President (Mohammed) Morsi, right away things changed," Rice said. "And that's an evidence of our influence and our impact."
Rice and Rogers spoke on "Fox News Sunday." Rice also appeared on NBC's "Meet the Press."
It's a sad day when the American public; even through the biased an apologist eye of the news media, has a better sense of world events than this administration. Either this countries intelligence agency is asleep on the job or this administration is ignoring the warnings because it doesnât fit their world view. In any case, the systems broken.
Maybe now we might realize that this is total war against radical Islam. It has been a long time since the USA fought a total war, but we still know how to do it.
"A high-powered assault on the U.S. Consulate in Libya was a spontaneous reaction to an anti-Muslim video, the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations said Sunday, not a premeditated assault tied to the anniversary of the Sept. 11 attacks."
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As if anyone in their right mind would trust a mouthpiece for the Obama administration. Never mind all the reports of early warnings from the Libyans, past attacks, and totally insufficient protection of our staff. This administration is in complete damage control mode and cannot be believed.
This is the party line do they think we are complete idiots. We know they cant say it was a planned attack against the Obama administration. It was done on 9-11 they were chanting "Obama we are a billion Osama's" These guys were armed to kill and destroy, they meant to embarrass Obama the killer of Osama and another Alqeda leader last month. Funny I counted over 20 different Anti Muslim videos on You tube since 2009, Funny they almost all were identical in content to this one being called the cause of the riot and murder.Hillary Tried and Tried to convince the world it wasnt OBAMA they were demonstrating about. She might of really made things worse ranting about the video.
WE NEED TO GET RID OF OUR SHIP OF FOOLS IN NOVEMBER!!!!!!!!!!.
 @Ronn Democrats are the party of idiots so of course they cannot imagine voters being anything other than idiots too.
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And this is very fitting...A song from the American people to Obama, ala Grand Funk Railroad...
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Everybody listen to me And return me my ship,
 I'm your captain, I'm your captain Though I'm feeling mighty sick,
 I've been lost now, days uncounted And it's months since I've seen home,
 Can you hear me, can you hear me Or am I all alone?
 If you return me to my home port I will kiss you, mother Earth,
 Take me back now, take me back now To the port of my birth,
 Am I in my cabin dreaming, Or are you really scheming To take my ship away from me,
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It is no dream, this incompetent fool is trying to take our ship.
 @ByeByeBarry  @Ronn Wow Grand Funk, I remember them from back in the early & mid 70's. That was a good time for music.
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Ship of fools. Love it! How fitting. Two big 70's thumbs up from bye bye.
Bullsh.. these attacks were planned.
 "A high-powered assault on the U.S. Consulate in Libya was a spontaneous reaction to an anti-Muslim video, the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations said Sunday"
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So if this was a "spontaneous" event then why are the British papers and now CNN reporting that Egyptian security warned the United States of the deteriorating security situation three days before the embassy was attacked? There are a lot of questions that need to be answered by the incompetent sitting in the white house. For goodness sakes Obama didn't even know that Egypt was (or used to be) a ally of the United States.
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http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/15/world/meast/libya-diplomats-warning/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
 @ByeByeBarry My favorite part about this so-called "SPONTANEOUS" event is this article with videos here showing the "spontaneous" protestors walking around inside the consulate compound with RPG's. I mean seriously, who doesn't carry RPG's to a protest ??
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VIDEO: Terrorists With Rocket Propelled Grenades At US Consulate in Libya
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http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/09/video-shows-terrorists-with-rocket-propelled-grenades-at-us-consulate-in-libya/
Its a national security issue, you don't have the right to know whats going on.lol @ByeByeBarry
We are too bullied,and that make the whole world mad !
Spontaneous? Right. I don't think so, they were quite organized and well armed for this to be a spur of the moment thing and if they believe that, I have a bridge I'll sell them real cheap. Of course it's old and will fall down the very next earthquake....
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@white tiger
Your description of the mentality is wrong on many levels
First you compared a nation to a religion. Â
You then failed to take in account that our nation has a history of bombing and invading the nations of the middle east.Â
You also failed to take into account all the muslims that have stoof up and said the attacks were wrong.
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Now most of the nations are muslim which provides a common bond. Â
If they were all christian, jewish, hindu, buddist, athiest, or Vodoo, they will still hate us because, again, we keep attacking them.
Now if those nations were all differene religions, there would be less of a sense of unity..
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However, what your post did, is what most of the post on the internet do... It demonstrated that you have a very simplistic view of the situation.
you are perfectly ready to adapt the "they hate us for our freedoms' BS whiile demonstrating that you hate them because... welll to be honest, you are not able to fully understand a complex system.
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 @T H I S  @white tiger LOL still trying to equate all religions as the same I see, that atheistic humanism is a funny set of blinders to the truth. They hate us because they have had it drilled into them from day one out of their madrassas that we are infidels and should die.
To deny, lie, and cover up are the standard protocols in govt. business, everyone should know that.
Pretty pathetic that allah is such a wimp that he needs his followers to fight and kill in his defense. These people commiting these acts are just a bunch of mechanical, programed savages, convinced that their primary purpose in life is to hate and kill all infidels, which includes everyone, anyone who is not a follower of allah. They have only focused on one tiny part of the Koran and completely disregarded the rest.
All religions start as a religion of hate. Christianity and Judaism was no different, its just that they've been around longer and were forced to join the human race to a certain extent. As long as you have people believing in talking snakes and talking burning bushes these things are always going to happen. Us atheists have had to put up with the childish behavior for thousands of years. You would think with our level of science today that people would read a science book once in a while and throw off the old chains of bogotry. @Whoanelly
@Blindman You really need to study a little history. Christianity started as a religion of slaves and the poor and preached a lesson of peace. It wasn't until the government in Rome adopted and then used the church to control the populace that all the evils attributed to Christians came into fashion.
Religions don't create wars, governments do. They have however been known to use religion as an excuse if they can't find anythingelse that works. The non-secular communist's of the 20th century are responsible for killing more people than all the previous wars in history, no matter what excuse they used.
 @Blindman  @Whoanelly "Christianity and Judaism was no different"
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No they didn't and what's sad is you know that, but are blinded by your own personal religion that you have created that elevates you. The tragic thing is that deep deep down inside you know that God exists and wants a relationship with you but you just won't let him in the door of your heart.
@Blindman @Whoanelly  Grow up.
What horrible reporting. I suppose the Libyan president didn't know it was spontaneous either?
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/09/16/libyan-president-megaryef-al-qaeda-behind-deadly-attack-on-us-consulate/
Right... We went to a protest march and just "spontaneously" brought our rocket launchers. Just like McCain telling us how the Libyan people came to the aid of the Embassy . Pictures I saw on an arab web sight showing them dragging the body's into the street so they all could take pictures with their cell phones. So much BS.
"A high-powered assault on the U.S. Consulate in Libya was a spontaneous reaction to an anti-Muslim video, the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations said Sunday"
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Don't these people ever get tired of constantly having to provide political cover for this inept, incompetent, bumbling fool of a president?
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Hey, Mr. UN Ambassador, has Obama determined yet whether Egypt is an ally? How about Israel? Just wondering.
It must be horrible to have to parrot the administration line in public when you know it is not true. At lesast she didn't pass out like General Petreyus did while testifying before Congress. Still it isn't a healthy work environment to have to lie to the world.
 @memory9 Don't you wish it caused cancer?
That's absurd. It just *happens* to occur on Sept. 11? Right. Of course it was premeditated. And the movie was simply an excuse.
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And by the way, balanced, sensible people don't kill because they don't like a movie. That is behavior that isn't even remotely in the realm of sanity.
"UN ambassador says Libya attack was spontaneous"
Yeah right.lol
Just the nature of what happens when you allow the CIA to meddle in affairs that are none of their business. And then compound that with a lack of leadership and you have a recipe for a world war.
People wanted change and boy are we getting it.
If these idiots believe it was spontaneous i have great beach front property in las vegas
 @armor Beaten to the punch.  I was going to offer them this little bridge in New York City.
"... an anxious nation questioning what was gained by U.S. support for democratic, pro-Islamic uprisings in Muslim countries..."
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Religion That Must Not Be Named-ists? Yes.
Jeffersonian Democracy? Eh... no.
Or... elect our RTMNBN Party, then they pass the equivalent of The Enabling Acts.
They find and kill a US Ambassador at a supposedly "safe house" and we are to believe it was spontaneous? Either these people are too stupid to be in office or they think we are too stupid to understand what happened.
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All of it spontaneous - on Sep 11 - over a movie less than a thousand people in the world had ever seen or heard of - that was on the web since last July.Â
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"There's huge gaps in what we know," he said. Understatement of the year. These people hate our guts, and want us dead, yet, we send billions of dollars in aid over to that area every year while we have homeless living on our own streets. After touting for a couple years now, that Al Quaeda is no longer the threat it once was, if this was indeed a "commemorative attack" on Sept 11th, the government isn't going to want the people to know that right before an election. It would make the current administration look weaker than it already is. I say we immediately STOP all foreign aid to the countries that house these terrorists, pull our troops home, and let them destroy themselves while we watch from the sidelines and sip a beer or two. Ought to be a good show.
Translate. Covert objectives attained without significant resistance. U.S. isn't ready to kick off on their public, suggest pull back. Keep venting that rock as planned. New crews of diggers headed your way, boss.