NJ building super stumbles upon secret NYPD hideout

NEW BRUNSWICK, N.J. (AP) — It's an audiotape the New York Police Department hoped you would never hear.
A building superintendent at an apartment complex just off the Rutgers University campus called the New Brunswick Police 911 line in June 2009. He said his staff had been conducting a routine inspection and came across something suspicious.
"What's suspicious?" the dispatcher asked.
"Suspicious in the sense that the apartment has about — has no furniture except two beds, has no clothing, has New York City Police Department radios."
"Really?" the dispatcher asked, her voice rising with surprise.
The caller, Salil Sheth, had stumbled upon one of the NYPD's biggest secrets: a safe house, a place where undercover officers working well outside the department's jurisdiction could lie low and coordinate surveillance. Since the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks, the NYPD, with training and guidance from the CIA, has monitored the activities of Muslims in New York and far beyond. Detectives infiltrated mosques, eavesdropped in cafes and kept tabs on Muslim student groups, including at Rutgers.
The NYPD kept files on innocent sermons, recorded the names of political organizers in police documents and built databases of where Muslims lived and shopped, even where they were likely to gather to watch sports. Out-of-state operations, like the one in New Brunswick, were one aspect of this larger intelligence-gathering effort. The Associated Press previously described the discovery of the NYPD inside the New Jersey apartment, but police now have released the tape of the 911 call and other materials after a legal fight.
"There's computer hardware, software, you know, just laying around," the caller continued. "There's pictures of terrorists. There's pictures of our neighboring building that they have."
"In New Brunswick?" the dispatcher asked, sounding as confused as the caller.
The AP requested a copy of the 911 tape last year. Under pressure from the NYPD, the New Brunswick Police Department refused. After the AP sued, the city this week turned over the tape and emails that described the NYPD's efforts to keep the recording a secret.
The call sent New Brunswick police and the FBI rushing to the apartment complex. Officers and agents were surprised at what they found. None had been told that the NYPD was in town.
At the NYPD, the bungled operation was an embarrassment. It made the department look amateurish and forced it to ask the FBI to return the department's materials.
The emails highlight the sometimes convoluted arguments the NYPD has used to justify its out-of-state activities, which have been criticized by New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie and some members of Congress. The NYPD has infiltrated and photographed Muslim businesses and mosques in New Jersey, monitored the Internet postings of Muslim college students across the Northeast and traveled as far away as New Orleans to infiltrate and build files on liberal advocacy groups.
In February, NYPD's deputy commissioner for legal matters, Andrew Schaffer, told reporters that detectives can operate outside New York because they aren't conducting official police duties.
"They're not acting as police officers in other jurisdictions," Schaffer said.
In trying to keep the 911 tape under wraps, however, the NYPD made no mention of the fact that its officers were not acting as police. In fact, Lt. Cmdr. William McGroarty and Assistant Chief Thomas Galati argued that releasing the recording would jeopardize investigations and endanger the people and buildings.
Further, the apartment, No. 1076, was rented by an undercover NYPD officer using a fake name that he was still using, New Brunswick attorneys told the AP.
"Such identification will place the safety of any officers identified, as well as the undercover operatives with whom they work, at risk," Galati wrote in a letter to New Brunswick.
The city deleted that name from the copy of the tape that it released.
Reached by phone Tuesday, McGroarty declined to discuss the New Brunswick operation. But the recording offers a glimpse inside the safe house: a small apartment with two computers, dozens of black plastic boxes and no furniture or clothes except one suit.
"And pictures of our neighboring buildings?" the dispatcher asked.
"Yes, the Matrix building," Sheth replied, referring to a local developer. "There's pictures of terrorists. There's literature on the Muslim religion."
New York authorities have encouraged people like Sheth to call 911. In its "Eight Signs of Terrorism," people are encouraged to call the police if they see evidence of surveillance, information gathering, suspicious activities or anything that looks out of place.
New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg has defended the police department's right to go anywhere in the country in search of terrorists without telling local police. And New Jersey Attorney General Jeffrey Chiesa has said he's seen no evidence that the NYPD's efforts violated his state's laws.
Muslim groups, however, have sued to shut down the NYPD programs. Civil rights lawyers have asked a federal judge to decide whether the spying violates federal rules that were set up to prevent a repeat of NYPD abuses of the 1950s, when police Red Squads spied on student groups and activists in search of communists.
A building superintendent at an apartment complex just off the Rutgers University campus called the New Brunswick Police 911 line in June 2009. He said his staff had been conducting a routine inspection and came across something suspicious.
"What's suspicious?" the dispatcher asked.
"Suspicious in the sense that the apartment has about — has no furniture except two beds, has no clothing, has New York City Police Department radios."
"Really?" the dispatcher asked, her voice rising with surprise.
The caller, Salil Sheth, had stumbled upon one of the NYPD's biggest secrets: a safe house, a place where undercover officers working well outside the department's jurisdiction could lie low and coordinate surveillance. Since the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks, the NYPD, with training and guidance from the CIA, has monitored the activities of Muslims in New York and far beyond. Detectives infiltrated mosques, eavesdropped in cafes and kept tabs on Muslim student groups, including at Rutgers.
The NYPD kept files on innocent sermons, recorded the names of political organizers in police documents and built databases of where Muslims lived and shopped, even where they were likely to gather to watch sports. Out-of-state operations, like the one in New Brunswick, were one aspect of this larger intelligence-gathering effort. The Associated Press previously described the discovery of the NYPD inside the New Jersey apartment, but police now have released the tape of the 911 call and other materials after a legal fight.
"There's computer hardware, software, you know, just laying around," the caller continued. "There's pictures of terrorists. There's pictures of our neighboring building that they have."
"In New Brunswick?" the dispatcher asked, sounding as confused as the caller.
The AP requested a copy of the 911 tape last year. Under pressure from the NYPD, the New Brunswick Police Department refused. After the AP sued, the city this week turned over the tape and emails that described the NYPD's efforts to keep the recording a secret.
The call sent New Brunswick police and the FBI rushing to the apartment complex. Officers and agents were surprised at what they found. None had been told that the NYPD was in town.
At the NYPD, the bungled operation was an embarrassment. It made the department look amateurish and forced it to ask the FBI to return the department's materials.
The emails highlight the sometimes convoluted arguments the NYPD has used to justify its out-of-state activities, which have been criticized by New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie and some members of Congress. The NYPD has infiltrated and photographed Muslim businesses and mosques in New Jersey, monitored the Internet postings of Muslim college students across the Northeast and traveled as far away as New Orleans to infiltrate and build files on liberal advocacy groups.
In February, NYPD's deputy commissioner for legal matters, Andrew Schaffer, told reporters that detectives can operate outside New York because they aren't conducting official police duties.
"They're not acting as police officers in other jurisdictions," Schaffer said.
In trying to keep the 911 tape under wraps, however, the NYPD made no mention of the fact that its officers were not acting as police. In fact, Lt. Cmdr. William McGroarty and Assistant Chief Thomas Galati argued that releasing the recording would jeopardize investigations and endanger the people and buildings.
Further, the apartment, No. 1076, was rented by an undercover NYPD officer using a fake name that he was still using, New Brunswick attorneys told the AP.
"Such identification will place the safety of any officers identified, as well as the undercover operatives with whom they work, at risk," Galati wrote in a letter to New Brunswick.
The city deleted that name from the copy of the tape that it released.
Reached by phone Tuesday, McGroarty declined to discuss the New Brunswick operation. But the recording offers a glimpse inside the safe house: a small apartment with two computers, dozens of black plastic boxes and no furniture or clothes except one suit.
"And pictures of our neighboring buildings?" the dispatcher asked.
"Yes, the Matrix building," Sheth replied, referring to a local developer. "There's pictures of terrorists. There's literature on the Muslim religion."
New York authorities have encouraged people like Sheth to call 911. In its "Eight Signs of Terrorism," people are encouraged to call the police if they see evidence of surveillance, information gathering, suspicious activities or anything that looks out of place.
New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg has defended the police department's right to go anywhere in the country in search of terrorists without telling local police. And New Jersey Attorney General Jeffrey Chiesa has said he's seen no evidence that the NYPD's efforts violated his state's laws.
Muslim groups, however, have sued to shut down the NYPD programs. Civil rights lawyers have asked a federal judge to decide whether the spying violates federal rules that were set up to prevent a repeat of NYPD abuses of the 1950s, when police Red Squads spied on student groups and activists in search of communists.
Is it okay for a building super to get into your apartment in Jersey? Sounds like an invasion of privacy to me. Some states though have rules where its okay for landlords and supers to go into your apartment without notice once a month even if your not there. Texas is one such state. I will never live in Texas so thats okay.
@Granny_MAC:Â The super posted notice, as required by law - the notice was still hanging on the apartment door when the super went in for the inspection.
So the city of New York taxpayers are paying NYPD to travel around the country. If I lived in New York I'd be ticked.
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And if NYPD is doing this, what about others?
It sounds like a vacation with all expenses paid.
If this happened 3 years ago, why is this all of a sudden news? Another words, why wasn't this reported in the media sooner?
So how is the NYPD going to feel if they actually uncover a terrorist plot, but are unable to convict anyone because the courts find their tactics unconstitutional?
".... In February, NYPD's deputy commissioner for legal matters, Andrew Schaffer, told reporters that detectives can operate outside New York because they aren't conducting official police duties. "They're not acting as police officers in other jurisdictions," Schaffer said ...."
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".... New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg has defended the police department's right to go anywhere in the country in search of terrorists without telling local police ...."
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I would say that NYPD has enough to do within it's own jurisdiction - they should stay there, and let "the locals" deal with their own jurisdictions. If NYPD gets a lead or a tip that has to do with some place else, then they should be passing it along to the locals - not playing "I Spy" in a place where they have no permission or authority to do anything. For them to cross STATE lines, let alone city lines, is beyond comprehension. It would be equivalent of WSP setting up a safe house in San Francisco because someone somewhere in SF MIGHT be a terrorist.
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NYPD needs to be shut down. This makes them sou nd worse than SPD - and that is saying something!
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@LocalLady You know NYC thinks they are the center of the universe.
Looks like the "See something, say something" campaign worked very well. NYPD should be bragging about this incident, not trying to hide it.
Looks like they cops got busted. You would think they would just get the locals to do it. Instead they think they are the only police force. Someone needs to reign these cops in by the short hairs and I mean now.Â
theres a turd in the punch bowl
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@Truth Percolates I am missing thumbs down!!! So now we don't need the FBI... NYPD can do it all.!?
Racial profiling is never a good idea. The cops come home and bad mouth Muslims with other family members listening and they eventually take that prejudice with them where ever they go.
This is what extremists did to their own people. Created an environment where the non extremist, peaceful Muslims are viewed as threats, and treated wrong. We cannot pretend there aren't Muslim extremists in this country who are licking their chops at the thought of killing us by the thousands, but we also cannot forget its a tiny percentage.
Sounds like the NYPD is overstepping their bounds JUST A BIT! I think that Generalisamo-for-life Bloomers needs to be reined in a bit.
@Woodswalker Bloomers, you mean the same one that says cops should go on strike unless people give up their guns?
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Same one. The one who banned 32 oz drinks.
 @Woodswalker I agree.. They need some sanctions.. or need to be put in their place..Â
"Andrew Schaffer, told reporters that detectives can operate outside New York because they aren't conducting official police duties."
Investigation, compilation of information for possible use as evidence, isn't police work? Â Andrew needs to go back to school... especially if he thinks "we the people" are that dumb..
IF you're not doing anything wrong then you've got nothing to hide.
@Magic 8 Ball You mean like the NSA & AT&T allowing them to eavesdrop on peoples emails & phone calls?
 @Magic 8 Ball I could care less if someone wanted to monitor my life. The problem is they build a dossier on innocent people. Then when a crime occurs, they pop up and say "well, we have this one suspect who once discussed a plot in a movie that sounds just like it!" Its profiling suspects to fit a crime.
 @Magic 8 Ball There's a difference between having nothing to hide and having a right to privacy. Even people with nothing to hide still have the right to privacy free from government intrusion.
Sorry, I didn't see that right in the US Constitution. Can you please tell me what section to look in?
Then apparently the NYPD was doing something wrong because they wanted the tapes hidden
************NYPD.....Thank you for keeping us safe from future Terrorist Activities**********
I'm just glad someone is watching out for us.Â
I know many see this as a violation of our right to privacy or even profiling, but when our country has been attacked by a group (albeit a radical sect of that group) I believe it is in our country's best interest to at least take the time to observe. If there was a bombing and someone saw a 6'5" 210lb white male fleeing the scene and I happen to be in the general area...I would expect to be questioned and or followed. I don't think it is profiling I think it is good police work...profiling would be if they were to "shake down" every Muslim they came upon in the streets.
@aintno1special Still, Generalissimo-for-life seems to be reaching a bit outside his baliwick...NYPD is NYC....NOT NJ....I can imagine that the NJ LEO might get a bit bent with what amounts to a spy ring operating in their jurisdiction.
I totally agree with your point! The only issue I have with the story at hand, however it seemed minimal to the general topic so I didn't comment. I am totally confused why NYPD thinks they can justify these things in other jurisdictions.
I would have to wonder how NY would feel if the shoe was on the other foot.
It would appear everyone in NY is under a big microscope.