Breastfeeding baby doll: creepy or groundbreaking?

NEW YORK (AP) - We've got dolls that wet, crawl and talk. We've got dolls with perfect hourglass figures. We've got dolls with swagger. And we've got plenty that come with itty bitty baby bottles.
But it's a breastfeeding doll whose suckling sounds are prompted by sensors sewn into a halter top at the nipples of little girls that caught some flak after hitting the U.S. market.
"I just want the kids to be kids," Bill O'Reilly said on his Fox News show when he learned of the Breast Milk Baby. "And this kind of stuff. We don't need this."
What, exactly, we don't need is unclear to Dennis Lewis, the U.S. representative for Berjuan Toys, a family-owned, 40-year-old doll maker in Spain that can't get the dolls onto mainstream shelves more than a year after introducing the line in this country - and blowing O'Reilly's mind.
"We've had a lot of support from lots of breastfeeding organizations, lots of mothers, lots of educators," said Lewis, in Orlando, Fla. "There also has been a lot of blowback from people who maybe haven't thought to think about really why the doll is there and what its purpose is. Usually they are people that either have problems with breastfeeding in general, or they see it as something sexual."
The dolls, eight in all with a variety of skin tones and facial features, look like many others, until children don the little top with petal appliques at the nipples. That's where the sensors are located, setting off the suckling noise when the doll's mouth makes contact. It also burps and cries, but those sounds don't require contact at the breast.

Little Savannah and Tony, Cameron and Jessica, Lilyang and Jeremiah ain't cheap at $89 a pop. Lewis, after unsuccessfully peddling them to retailers large and small, now has them listed at half price on their website in time for the holidays this year.
"With retailers it's been hard, to be perfectly honest, but not so much because they've been against the products," he said. "It's more they've been very wary of the controversy. It's a product that you either love it or you hate it."
Stevanne Auerbach loves it. The child development expert in San Francisco, also known as Dr. Toy, evaluates dolls and other toys for consumers, lending her official approval to Breast Milk Baby.
"We felt that it had merit in dealing with new babies for the older child," she said, "and for the curiosity that children have in this area. Breastfeeding in Europe is acceptable and the doll has been successful there. We wanted to open up the opportunity."
Sally Wendkos Olds, who wrote "The Complete Book of Breastfeeding," also doesn't understand the problem.
"I think it's a very cute toy," she said. "I think it's just crazy what Bill O'Reilly was saying that it's sexualizing little girls. The whole point is that so many people in our society persist in sexualizing breastfeeding, where in so many other countries around the world they don't think anything of it."
Olds called Americans "prudish in many ways," adding the doll offers: "bodily awareness. It's realizing that this is OK."
Lewis blames lack of U.S. sales - just under 5,000 dolls sold in the last year - solely on phobia about breastfeeding, something widely considered the healthiest way to feed a baby.
"There's no doubt about that," he said. "The whole idea is that there's still some taboos here. They're difficult to justify and difficult to explain but they're out there. You mention breast and people automatically start thinking Janet Jackson or wardrobe malfunctions and all sorts of things that have absolutely nothing to do with breastfeeding."
Lewis considers Breast Milk Baby "very much less sexualized" than Barbie dolls or the sassy Bratz pack.
Olds, who lives in New York City, agreed, though she thinks the doll's full retail price is too high. "That's my only objection to it. It's a lot of money, but people spend a lot of money on their children in all sorts of ways."
Haven't little girls been mimicking the act of breastfeeding with their baby dolls for centuries without benefit of accoutrement?
"Why do we need anything with bells and whistles? Why did we need a Betsy Wetsy? Children like toys that do things," Olds said, invoking one of the first drink and wet dolls created back in 1935. "So this doll makes noises. She burps, she cries, she sucks very noisily. Big deal."
Lincoln Hoppe, a Los Angeles actor and father of five - all breastfed - said a young child who becomes a big sibling and sees mom nursing might enjoy the doll just fine. "After all, they're going to imitate mom anyway using whatever doll they've already got," he said.
But how about playdates? Out in public, he asked.
"It's already hard to tell a child they can't take 'that' toy with them to their sibling's soccer game." he said. "There may be a time and place for this doll, but I find the idea kind of creepy."
But it's a breastfeeding doll whose suckling sounds are prompted by sensors sewn into a halter top at the nipples of little girls that caught some flak after hitting the U.S. market.
"I just want the kids to be kids," Bill O'Reilly said on his Fox News show when he learned of the Breast Milk Baby. "And this kind of stuff. We don't need this."
What, exactly, we don't need is unclear to Dennis Lewis, the U.S. representative for Berjuan Toys, a family-owned, 40-year-old doll maker in Spain that can't get the dolls onto mainstream shelves more than a year after introducing the line in this country - and blowing O'Reilly's mind.
"We've had a lot of support from lots of breastfeeding organizations, lots of mothers, lots of educators," said Lewis, in Orlando, Fla. "There also has been a lot of blowback from people who maybe haven't thought to think about really why the doll is there and what its purpose is. Usually they are people that either have problems with breastfeeding in general, or they see it as something sexual."
The dolls, eight in all with a variety of skin tones and facial features, look like many others, until children don the little top with petal appliques at the nipples. That's where the sensors are located, setting off the suckling noise when the doll's mouth makes contact. It also burps and cries, but those sounds don't require contact at the breast.

Little Savannah and Tony, Cameron and Jessica, Lilyang and Jeremiah ain't cheap at $89 a pop. Lewis, after unsuccessfully peddling them to retailers large and small, now has them listed at half price on their website in time for the holidays this year.
"With retailers it's been hard, to be perfectly honest, but not so much because they've been against the products," he said. "It's more they've been very wary of the controversy. It's a product that you either love it or you hate it."
Stevanne Auerbach loves it. The child development expert in San Francisco, also known as Dr. Toy, evaluates dolls and other toys for consumers, lending her official approval to Breast Milk Baby.
"We felt that it had merit in dealing with new babies for the older child," she said, "and for the curiosity that children have in this area. Breastfeeding in Europe is acceptable and the doll has been successful there. We wanted to open up the opportunity."
Sally Wendkos Olds, who wrote "The Complete Book of Breastfeeding," also doesn't understand the problem.
"I think it's a very cute toy," she said. "I think it's just crazy what Bill O'Reilly was saying that it's sexualizing little girls. The whole point is that so many people in our society persist in sexualizing breastfeeding, where in so many other countries around the world they don't think anything of it."
Olds called Americans "prudish in many ways," adding the doll offers: "bodily awareness. It's realizing that this is OK."
Lewis blames lack of U.S. sales - just under 5,000 dolls sold in the last year - solely on phobia about breastfeeding, something widely considered the healthiest way to feed a baby.
"There's no doubt about that," he said. "The whole idea is that there's still some taboos here. They're difficult to justify and difficult to explain but they're out there. You mention breast and people automatically start thinking Janet Jackson or wardrobe malfunctions and all sorts of things that have absolutely nothing to do with breastfeeding."
Lewis considers Breast Milk Baby "very much less sexualized" than Barbie dolls or the sassy Bratz pack.
Olds, who lives in New York City, agreed, though she thinks the doll's full retail price is too high. "That's my only objection to it. It's a lot of money, but people spend a lot of money on their children in all sorts of ways."
Haven't little girls been mimicking the act of breastfeeding with their baby dolls for centuries without benefit of accoutrement?
"Why do we need anything with bells and whistles? Why did we need a Betsy Wetsy? Children like toys that do things," Olds said, invoking one of the first drink and wet dolls created back in 1935. "So this doll makes noises. She burps, she cries, she sucks very noisily. Big deal."
Lincoln Hoppe, a Los Angeles actor and father of five - all breastfed - said a young child who becomes a big sibling and sees mom nursing might enjoy the doll just fine. "After all, they're going to imitate mom anyway using whatever doll they've already got," he said.
But how about playdates? Out in public, he asked.
"It's already hard to tell a child they can't take 'that' toy with them to their sibling's soccer game." he said. "There may be a time and place for this doll, but I find the idea kind of creepy."
In North America, something so natural and healthy for a baby and his/her mom as breastfeeding seems to be taboo and something to be kept private. Why are some people so uncomfortable around a woman that is breastfeeding, even if she's covered up? I'm glad that this doll encourages breastfeeding and maybe will bring awareness to future generations that breastfeeding is not only ok, but very beneficial to both baby and mom! I hope this doll gets put on the shelves to bring breastfeeding out of the shadows and mainly so that little girls think of breasts for breastfeeding rather than anything sexual.
When you have all these baby dolls that drink from bottles little girls get the idea, at a very young age, that babies are bottle fed. By allowing breastfeeding to be sexualized and hidden away as something "private" we ensure that fewer babies are breastfed than would be if we allowed little girls to play like this and allowed women to breastfeed without making them hide. Breastfeeding really has been proven to be better for babies so we need to stop discouraging it with all of our disgusting sexual hang-ups.
WHAT?! No video?!
I am sorry. I should watch the video before commenting. Strap on? Vest with a breast? I will watch it now. This is TOO much!
 @Laverne Swanson It is a little thing that the CHILD puts on over her shirt that has contacts on it so when she puts the baby doll's mouth to it the doll makes eating sounds. You have seen the same technology a million times with baby dolls that come with bottles and I am certain that you don't complain about those. The vest is not at all fake boobs, just a way to place the contacts. People get all worked up without even seeing it.
Better than the dolls like Barbie that say you have to starve yourself and be skinny or look like escorts on any street in America. Used to be they were just downtown.Â
I'll go with creepy on this one.
 @Klondiko So do you sexualize children or breastfeeding or do you also find baby dolls that make eating sounds when given a toy bottle creepy?
For me, the vest with flowers is a little strange. Too bad they need that for the doll to make noises. I don't think my 4 and 2 year old granddaughters would like it. When they pretend to feed their baby dolls, they know that the shirt has to get hiked up so the baby can get to the breast. Or as the older one used to call it when she was little, to her 'nursings'. (They also know that shirt up in public is not okay unless a blanket is draped over the shoulder and baby). Hmmm....I suppose the halter top or vest that comes with this doll could be worn under the child's shirt....but I still think my granddaughters would prefer things as they are now. That being said, I certainly have no problem with stores selling them. There's nothing morally or legally wrong with them. Let everyone decide for themselves. My mom didn't care for Barbie dolls but she didn't expect all the stores to stop carrying them! (Not to worry...my aunt got me one and after that my mom caved!)
 @justathought I like your objection.
I think it's great! It shows kids an alternative to bottle feeding their baby-doll and trains them to feed a real baby the right way. As a child I used to shove a balloon down my shirt to do this. 'Let the kids be kids?' kids are already m imicking what they want to do as adults. The kids with similar dolls are already using diapers and bottles and strollers for them. And I'm 100% certain I'm not the only gal who put a balloon down her shirt as a kid to feed my baby doll. I think allowing the young girls to understand the nurturing reasons behind breasts will help them see breast as more than just blobs of flesh on them to allure others for sex. And I think that issue is far worst in society today.
I think this doll is favorable and inventive. There are Barbies that can have babies and people are upset over a vest? The vest doesnt even have breasts attached to it, they are pretty little flowers that go over the nipple area. Now if my child was putting fake breast vest I may have an issue but ladies and gents those are flowers not breasts. Seems silly but not a bad idea. Why should our girls or boys be bottle feeding all these toy babies? To save their childhood? Give me a break! When I had my 2nd even my oldest son, age 4, pretended to breast feed a doll. Why is it so horrible for our children to mimic the most natural of instincts, providing what is healthiest for our young? Although I do have to say that it is overpriced and I personally would not purchace it because of that. My children do just fine pretending with dolls they already have, even if their dolls dont make life like noises my kiddos are happy with them.Â
There is nothing at all wrong or creepy about this. When I was breast feeding my son, my daughter (who was 3 a the time) immitated me with her dolls all the time. There was absolutely NOTHING sexual about it, anyone who tries to say there is has a problem. I for one would like my daughter to live by "breast is best" and breast feed her own children some day. If they learn that at a young age it will carry thru, it did for me.
@wdjpepper I don't think a child mimicking is creepy. I do think a nipple vest for a little girl is sexualizing a child (little girls do not have breasts) and creepy.
 @Anarchy  @wdjpepper Little girls have nipples, so do little boys. It's not a breast vest. It is not sexualizing the child, it's just a way to place the contacts. this is the same setup they use with the bottle fed baby dolls.
I am all for breast feeding, BUT this doll is a little too far.Â
 @Nicole P Why? Do you have a problem with bottle fed versions of this doll? If not then you must sexualize either breastfeeding or little girls playing with dolls. Neither one of which is inherently sexual. Or perhaps you simply think it is understandable for other people to sexualize those things?
I am thinking only those that did not breast feed their babies are against this....girls start their periods at 12 now..!...Contrary to the popular belief that is what breast are for, they are for feeding Babies !, not toys for an adult to carry out there fantasies with... or to blow up and strut their stuff...get a brain... no wonder this country is less than desirable...
Our kids are growing up too fast as it is with everday situations and problems. Why in the world would a parent want to start in with this? It makes no sense preparing them for parenthood before they even get out of grade school! There is a time and place for everything. A little girl with a fake boob is creepy and down right disgusting.
 @swansong68 what are you talking about? Do you object to girls playing with all baby dolls and all fashion dolls? Are you okay with baby dolls that come with a little bottle? If you don't then you have a problem with breastfeeding and I wish you didn't because it is good for babies.
It doesn't come with a strap-on smart breast with an remote control articulated nipple?
What a rip-off !!!
Want to combat the rise of Muslim immigration?
Support public breastfeeding.
First let me say I have zero objections to a woman breastfeeding anywhere. With that being said if I had a daughter, thereâs no chance in hell I would ever buy or allow this doll. Frankly I find it a bit creepy.
 @DreamTravler In that case I assume that you also would not buy her a bottle fed version of this doll? Otherwise you need to think about why you think breastfeeding is sexual.
Sorry breastfeeding crowd...I find it creepy and rather twisted. The vest is over the top.
 @passingthru Same issue with the bottle fed version or do you just think breastfeeding is sexual?
I am far from a prude but this is creepy. And I do think it is sexualizing little girls. They do not have breast so to give them a nipple vest is just wrong. If a girl was playing with a doll of her own and wanted to mimic breastfeeding, that is one thing but giving her a nipple vest is wrong.
 @Anarchy All little girls have nipples. Most often two. All little boys have nipples too, in case you were wondering. Check under your shirt, I'll bet you have nipples too. So I assume you also object to the bottle fed babies that mimic eating?
I love this idea!  We are very  a "mainstream" Republican, Christian family.  We are very far from the "crunchy granola hippies" that people have been trying to associate with these dolls.  What is the difference between a doll that drinks a bottle and this doll?  Aren't they both modeling positive parenting techniques to one generation that will be raising the next?  I bet no one would have a problem with pretend formula cans!
I asked my 8 year old daughter what she thought about this doll. She asked, "Does it pee? Does it walk? Does it talk?" I told her it burps and makes slurping/sucking noises. Her response, " 90 bucks and all it does is burp? Why couldn't I just pretend to breastfeed with my regular baby dolls? "
I don't think the weak US sales have much to do with the doll being creepy, as much as just being a plain dumb idea.
A young girl imitating her mom breastfeeding a sibling by pretending to breastfeed her doll is one thing. But what introduces the creep factor, in my opinion, is when a toy manufacturer gets involved primarily because of the sexual aspect to breastfeeding (beyond the obvious).
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For the most part the only females who lactate are pregnant and/or have recently given birth -->Â in order to become pregnant sexual intercourse is generally involved, so yeah the concept of a 4, 5, 6, etc. year old pretending to breastfeed a doll that also pretends to be suckling has a disturbing unspoken and perhaps unconscious undercurrent.
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In short if the thought creeps you out, there is a very good (and explainable) reason it does.
 @aegis11 What sexual aspect? That same sexual aspect is involved with a bottle fed baby. Duh. It is also there when a mother pushes the baby around in the stroller. Wow, you are really reaching to explain away the fact that American culture has sexual issues it needs to address,one of which is this idea that breastfeeding is sexual. BTW, you can breastfeed long after having given birth, some women make a living doing it for many years, especially in other countries and throughout history, it is called being a wet nurse. Your excuse is ill-informed. The fact that whenever you see a boob you think sex is just part of who you are, not the absolute nature of man. Don't believe me, look at cultures where bare boobs are common.
Creepy, I know when I was young, I would get my doll and pretend to breast feed but at that time my mom was doing it to my sister and I had no idea what I was copying. I will not buy anything like this for my daughter. When are they going to come out with dolls that have sex? Â I would love to skip the bird and the bees talk with my kids and just give them a couple of dolls. Just Kidding, I would not buy that eitherÂ
Five years from now well have dolls that actually urinate and defecate simulates material, and then...
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It's called progress and  *open mindedness* -- be prepared!! Because then it gets worse... much worse.
 @blaster They have already had those.
 @blaster I had Betsy Wetsy and I recall some sort of animal toy that pooped fake poop when you fed it. That was about 40 years ago. It did not bring about the apocalypse.
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By the way, Breast feeding isn't sexual. Only adults (mostly men)Â with fetishes sexualize it. Babies and their mom's are not experiencing anything of that nature. Neither are little girls who want to pretend to breast feed.
They've had dolls that do that for MANY years now. I'm 46 and I remember them when I was about 10.
The most natural way for baby's to feed. Â How is it creepy? Â The majority of you were breastfed too.
Ah yeah, I'm gonna say creepy. Hope this doesn't inspire Mattell to put out a Breast Feeding Barbie, as if they couldn't get any sleazier.
@Zoso I bet she would have perfect implants though. Just right for latching on.
Creepy
I am so tired of the 'in your face' attitudes. If it is not the nazi breastfeeders trying to make a statement it is the GLBT crowd. I voted for gay marriage and now I just don't want to hear anything more about it but I am afraid that they will not be able to stay out of the news. What are we going to have next animal husbandry dolls? Â
@Beam_Me_Up
No, I doubt you will be able to avoid it. Ken Hutcherson (the blaspheming bigot in charge of Antioch Bible Church) has already begun talking about filing an initiative to voerturn/repeal the vote to approve R74. I am hooing nothing comes of it.
 @Beam_Me_Up Animal Husbandry means farming. I think you meant something else. If so, you're the one bringing up a distasteful subject.
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 @two loons A lot of people posting here is trying to compare how Europe treats breastfeeding with America. OK, lets take that comparison full on. There are countries in Europe that push equal rights as America does but you would be hard pressed to find the acceptance of equal rights in Europe across all European countries as compared to America. Most European countries sill believe and act that the woman belongs in the home raising kids versus out in the work place competing for the top jobs. Most European countries accept prostitution as normal and either support it in some ways or just turn the other cheek to it. America is much more progressive when it comes to woman's rights across the board where it really matters. I have worked in companies that support breast feeding rooms for working mothers to pump and I think that is great. But I don't think that pushing a doll on kids in the name of equality is good for the kids let alone the American public. But if you keep pushing for these dolls I will keep pushing for what I think is just as ridiculous examples to provide a point hopefully for people that support these breastfeeding dolls to maybe think how wrong they are. If you are so concerned with what is a natural act being taught to young kids then I am so concerned with teaching young kids about how those wonderful cows and pigs and sheep and other animals they love seeing out the car windows are actually created with the help of artificial insemination techniques including the act of collecting the semen. It is all natural right?
 @Beam_Me_Up  @two loons Okay, I grew up with bottle fed baby dolls. I got the distinct impression that if I lost the bottle my baby would starve to death. I was the baby of the family and nobody breastfed in public so I thought you fed babies with bottles. I was totally surprised when I got to health class and found out that breasts made milk to feed babies. I thought it was really cool and wondered why nobody ever breastfed. Eventually I had babies and I breastfed them, with my boobs. Why would anyone ever feed their baby expensive, substandard food out of a bottle that, low and behold, contains chemicals that encourage the development of cancer that can release into liquids contained in the bottles, especially when the bottles are heated, when they have a source of superior, free, and convenient food naturally occurring under their very nose? Because they think they should? Because they think that is the "correct" way to do things? Because they think breastfeeding is immodest?
@Beam_Me_Up @two loons
Wow - I do not know what you have been reading, but it obviously is not the same comments as I have. Loons said nothing about "pushing for these dolls". I think you need to step back, talk a deep breath & get a grip.
Disturbing. Let children be children and if a little girl (or boy) imitates his mother breastfeeding..... smile, laugh, but don't go buy them a doll with a special nipple shirt.Â
My Gods.
Now what would the male equivalent of this doll be? I dare not think about such things. Get the girl some legos and nurture those neural pathways.
Breastfeeding education is needed for ages 16 and up..not little kids. My little ones don't need to play with fake boobs and nipples. Lots of breastfeeding parents use bottles, so it doesn't need to be more real than that at those ages.
creepy...all the way...