Idaho discovers it's tough to return a mansion

BOISE, Idaho (AP) — The hilltop mansion was a gift to Idaho from potato magnate J.R. Simplot, meant as a residence befitting the governor.
Instead, it's become a money pit, costing more annually to maintain than the median price of a Boise-area home. What's more, Idaho's current governor won't even live there.
Public outcry was on display this week at a hearing over the house's future, where a majority of those who spoke recommended either selling the place or returning it to Simplot's family.
But as Idaho has discovered, it's easier to take a mansion than it is to give it back: The heirs to the self-made billionaire who died in 2008 at age 99 don't want it.
"The family's position hasn't changed," said David Cuoio, a Simplot spokesman, on Wednesday, referring to an earlier statement. "J.R.'s home was given to the state with the understanding that it would be used as the governor's house."
The place, along with its 30-by-50-foot American flag, was erected by Simplot back in 1980 not simply as a residence.
Connected to the Boise Valley floor by a narrow serpentine drive, the 7,100-square-foot home is meant to be noticed.
In real estate parlance, location is everything, but that's also the reason the "the mansion on the hill" sticks in the collective craw of many Idaho residents.
"The governor of Idaho should be a person that the citizens can relate to," said Robert Fries, a Boise resident. "The governor of Idaho should not be placed on a pedestal on a hill, looking down on everyone."
Simplot handed over the keys in 2004, but it took just two years for its lofty perch to become an issue in the 2006 race to be governor: The Democratic candidate promised he'd never live in a house that seemed to elevate a politician above the ranks of the common man.
Current chief executive C.L. "Butch" Otter won, but the Republican also eschewed the mansion, preferring his riverside ranch west of Idaho's capital. There's some personal baggage, too: Otter is Simplot's former son-in-law, having divorced his daughter back in 1993.
And then there's the cost.
Just to maintain the 37-acre grounds, the state will pay about $80,000 this year, part of a cost-sharing agreement with the Simplot family that also covers adjacent property it still owns.
The list goes on: Electricity, $30,000; replacement flags: $5,100; janitors to clean up after rare occasions the house is used for state events: $12,000.
Altogether, the maintenance tab through next June is forecast at $177,400 — $40,000 north of the median Ada County home.
Consequently, a fund to maintain the mansion has dwindled to just $900,000, from $1.5 million in 2005.
"It seems to me to be a waste of money," said Barbara Kemp, another Boise resident.
The mansion isn't without defenders.
Boise resident Michael Kostanecki thinks Idaho should keep it as a tribute to Simplot, who rose from a modest childhood in Declo to found a corporation that supplied McDonald's with its golden french fries.
"For the life of me, I can't believe we would let this symbol of Idaho go to some developer," Kostanecki pleaded Tuesday with the five-member Governor's Housing Committee.
They find themselves in a tight spot: not offending Simplot's family by looking a gift horse in the mouth, while still staunching the cash drain.
The chairman, Republican state Sen. Chuck Winder, prefers keeping it.
Democratic Sen. Les Bock, another member, favors disposal.
For another month, they'll be taking public comment on what to do, but reaching a conclusion everyone can live with still won't be easy, Bock concedes.
"At least we have some input into what we should consider doing next," he said.
Instead, it's become a money pit, costing more annually to maintain than the median price of a Boise-area home. What's more, Idaho's current governor won't even live there.
Public outcry was on display this week at a hearing over the house's future, where a majority of those who spoke recommended either selling the place or returning it to Simplot's family.
But as Idaho has discovered, it's easier to take a mansion than it is to give it back: The heirs to the self-made billionaire who died in 2008 at age 99 don't want it.
"The family's position hasn't changed," said David Cuoio, a Simplot spokesman, on Wednesday, referring to an earlier statement. "J.R.'s home was given to the state with the understanding that it would be used as the governor's house."
The place, along with its 30-by-50-foot American flag, was erected by Simplot back in 1980 not simply as a residence.
Connected to the Boise Valley floor by a narrow serpentine drive, the 7,100-square-foot home is meant to be noticed.
In real estate parlance, location is everything, but that's also the reason the "the mansion on the hill" sticks in the collective craw of many Idaho residents.
"The governor of Idaho should be a person that the citizens can relate to," said Robert Fries, a Boise resident. "The governor of Idaho should not be placed on a pedestal on a hill, looking down on everyone."
Simplot handed over the keys in 2004, but it took just two years for its lofty perch to become an issue in the 2006 race to be governor: The Democratic candidate promised he'd never live in a house that seemed to elevate a politician above the ranks of the common man.
Current chief executive C.L. "Butch" Otter won, but the Republican also eschewed the mansion, preferring his riverside ranch west of Idaho's capital. There's some personal baggage, too: Otter is Simplot's former son-in-law, having divorced his daughter back in 1993.
And then there's the cost.
Just to maintain the 37-acre grounds, the state will pay about $80,000 this year, part of a cost-sharing agreement with the Simplot family that also covers adjacent property it still owns.
The list goes on: Electricity, $30,000; replacement flags: $5,100; janitors to clean up after rare occasions the house is used for state events: $12,000.
Altogether, the maintenance tab through next June is forecast at $177,400 — $40,000 north of the median Ada County home.
Consequently, a fund to maintain the mansion has dwindled to just $900,000, from $1.5 million in 2005.
"It seems to me to be a waste of money," said Barbara Kemp, another Boise resident.
The mansion isn't without defenders.
Boise resident Michael Kostanecki thinks Idaho should keep it as a tribute to Simplot, who rose from a modest childhood in Declo to found a corporation that supplied McDonald's with its golden french fries.
"For the life of me, I can't believe we would let this symbol of Idaho go to some developer," Kostanecki pleaded Tuesday with the five-member Governor's Housing Committee.
They find themselves in a tight spot: not offending Simplot's family by looking a gift horse in the mouth, while still staunching the cash drain.
The chairman, Republican state Sen. Chuck Winder, prefers keeping it.
Democratic Sen. Les Bock, another member, favors disposal.
For another month, they'll be taking public comment on what to do, but reaching a conclusion everyone can live with still won't be easy, Bock concedes.
"At least we have some input into what we should consider doing next," he said.
I know a bunch of homeless kids hanging out at Westlake Mall that would love to move in.
You don't become a billionaire by being stupid. Dumped the money pit on the state government. Pretty funny. His party probably wasn't in power anymore.
Since Simplot made a large part of his fortune selling potatoes to McDs for fries, why don't the heirs and McDs
get together and run the mansion as a Ronald McDonald house?
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 @OlyVonKanSheet I think this is an awesome suggestion ... can it be financially managed?
 @OlyVonKanSheet That's an awesome idea!
 @OlyVonKanSheet I LOVE that idea! Please email it to those people! (I'm quite serious).
I donât know if you were serious, but actually it is possible that it could work. It would cost less than 25% of what the state pays to maintain it. So actually not a bad idea.
Perhaps, a "mysterious" fire would be to everyone's benefit?
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"Oh look! Some ashes from the wildfire ignited my gasoline soaked rags I was storing next to the gas cans  by the leaky gas oven."
Disclaimer: In NO way does Mr. Vishess advocate or condone arson. That would be wrong. In every instance. Even this one. Don't even think about it. At all...
Idaho could always do what BC does and have a lottery/raffle with the house as the grand prize. Â All the money could go to worthy causes. Â Then everyone wins.
This is actually not surprising. Familys that win the HGTV dream home and some of the extreme home make over houses have been sent to foreclosure because the families just couldn't afford the raised taxes and the basic upkeep. Bigger houses also require alot more heating so more electricity.
I want to see a breakdown of those maintenance costs. Other than keeping the lawn mowed a house can sit for years with little or no maintenance. If it needs constant maintenance then it is a lemon and should be torn down.
I'm sure somewhere in the "gifting" there is a clause about the property being sold. I wonder what would happen if they tried.
There are so many ways they could make this a money maker if they would just put their thinking caps on instead of posturing and complaining.  Even turning it into a multi-family lodging facility with van runs to Bogus Basin would be a year round money maker. At least enough to cover the maint. costs I'm sure.
@achoo2 Now you're putting the state gov't into the lodging and tourist industry. That really isn't a solution.
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@NBA_Is_Useless   So how do you explain the state park system?
I will settle the argument.... I will take it and maintain it! I am thinking a bed and breakfast type place along with live entertainment to support wine type festival atmospheres. Ha!
 @Funky-Munky wine festivals? I'm in.