Amazon refreshes Kindles, including cheaper Fire

SANTA MONICA, Calif. (AP) - Amazon unveiled four new Kindle Fire tablet computers on Thursday, including ones with larger color screens, as the online retailer steps up competition with Apple ahead of the holiday shopping season.
Amazon.com Inc. showed off the larger Kindle Fire with a high-definition display amid expectations that Apple Inc. will introduce a smaller iPad as early as next week.
The larger Fires will have screens that measure 8.9 inches diagonally, compared with 9.7 inches for the iPad. The original Fire had 7-inch screens. The basic version of the larger Fire will sell for $299, or $100 less than the cheapest iPad.
"It's very clear today that there are two names in the market for tablets. One is Amazon and one is Apple," said Carolina Milanesi, research vice president at Gartner.
Seven out of every 10 tablets sold in the second quarter were iPads, according to IHS iSuppli. Tablets using Google's Android operating system have not been able to carve out a significant stake. Amazon is trying to change that with the new Fires, which run a modified version of Android.
Amazon has been selling lower-priced tablets at thin, if any, profit margins to boost sales of digital items from its online store. As a result, it has been able to compete with the iPad on price.
CEO Jeff Bezos said in an interview backstage that Amazon won't lose money on the devices even if customers don't use them to buy digital content from its online store.
"We want people to buy content from the device, sure," he said. "We're fine if they don't."
The basic, 7-inch Fire model will cost $159, down from $199 for the original model, which sold out last month. Amazon says it is 40 percent faster, comes with twice the memory and has a longer battery life than the old version. It will start shipping next Friday.
"I want one," BGC Partners analyst Colin Gillis said about the $159 Kindle Fire. "It's a great price, and it's certainly not something that's going to be making money for them initially. It's great for consumers. How great a business strategy (it is) for Amazon remains to be seen."
Amazon's bread-and-butter is not its Kindle gadgets but the movies, books and music that people consume through them. By contrast, Apple sees content sales as a sideline and wants to make a healthy profit on every device sold. For example, the cheapest iPad costs $399 and the most recent models start at $499.
But Amazon signaled Thursday that it is going head-to-head with Apple when it unveiled its high-end Kindle Fire HD. It will have two Wi-Fi channels and two internal antennas for faster, smoother transfers. That will be crucial for high-definition movies and other large files, Bezos told reporters.
The HD model will also have more storage, starting at 16 gigabytes (the same as the iPad), compared with 8 GB for the old Fire. About 2 GB is taken by the Fire's operating system.
An 8.9-inch model will go for $299 and start shipping Nov. 20. That means a device nearly as big as the iPad will sell for at least $100 less. A 7-inch HD model will sell for $199, starting next Friday. Movies will play in 720p on the 7-inch model and 1080p on the larger one.
The Fire, however, won't have as extensive a selection of apps as the iPad. In addition, while the HD models will have a front-facing camera for video chats, the iPad has one on the rear as well for taking photos and video.
A premium Kindle Fire HD model, one with the ability to connect to the 4G cellular networks that phone companies are building, will cost $499. It will come with 32 gigabytes of memory and an 8.9-inch screen. A data plan with AT&T will cost $50 a year and come with a cap of 250 megabytes per month. Apple's 4G iPads with 32 GB cost $729, not including data plans with AT&T or Verizon Wireless.
Baird analyst Colin Sebastian said Thursday's event showed that at the end of the day, Amazon is a "legitimate competitor in the tablet market."
"They did at least enough to compete against Apple and against Google this year," he said. That said, Sebastian added that he wouldn't worry about Apple.
"I'd worry about the other Android tablets," he said.
Google, for one, has a 7-inch Android tablet called the Nexus 7. Samsung Electronics Co., which outsold Apple in smartphones this year, also makes Android tablets under the Galaxy line. Barnes & Noble Inc. has the Nook Tablet, which also runs on a modified Android system.
Amazon also refreshed its line of stand-alone e-readers. Called Paperwhite, the new e-reader model has a black-and-white screen and comes with a light source.
Tablets such as the iPad and the Fire don't work as well in bright light because they are lit from the back. Bezos says the light on the Paperwhite is directed down at the display. The device promises eight weeks of battery life, even with the light on.
It costs $119 and starts shipping Oct. 1. Amazon says it will start taking orders Thursday. There's also a model with 3G cellular connections for $179. The Seattle-based retailer is also dropping the price of its low-end Kindle to $69, from $79. That will start shipping next Friday.
With the Paperwhite, Amazon "proved that there is still value in the uni-functional device," Gartner's Milanesi said. But, she added, it has to be cheaper than the rest.
Amazon's stock jumped $5.16, or 2.1 percent, to close Thursday at $251.38. Earlier in the day, it hit a record high of $252.70.
Amazon.com Inc. showed off the larger Kindle Fire with a high-definition display amid expectations that Apple Inc. will introduce a smaller iPad as early as next week.
The larger Fires will have screens that measure 8.9 inches diagonally, compared with 9.7 inches for the iPad. The original Fire had 7-inch screens. The basic version of the larger Fire will sell for $299, or $100 less than the cheapest iPad.
"It's very clear today that there are two names in the market for tablets. One is Amazon and one is Apple," said Carolina Milanesi, research vice president at Gartner.
Seven out of every 10 tablets sold in the second quarter were iPads, according to IHS iSuppli. Tablets using Google's Android operating system have not been able to carve out a significant stake. Amazon is trying to change that with the new Fires, which run a modified version of Android.
Amazon has been selling lower-priced tablets at thin, if any, profit margins to boost sales of digital items from its online store. As a result, it has been able to compete with the iPad on price.
CEO Jeff Bezos said in an interview backstage that Amazon won't lose money on the devices even if customers don't use them to buy digital content from its online store.
"We want people to buy content from the device, sure," he said. "We're fine if they don't."
The basic, 7-inch Fire model will cost $159, down from $199 for the original model, which sold out last month. Amazon says it is 40 percent faster, comes with twice the memory and has a longer battery life than the old version. It will start shipping next Friday.
"I want one," BGC Partners analyst Colin Gillis said about the $159 Kindle Fire. "It's a great price, and it's certainly not something that's going to be making money for them initially. It's great for consumers. How great a business strategy (it is) for Amazon remains to be seen."
Amazon's bread-and-butter is not its Kindle gadgets but the movies, books and music that people consume through them. By contrast, Apple sees content sales as a sideline and wants to make a healthy profit on every device sold. For example, the cheapest iPad costs $399 and the most recent models start at $499.
But Amazon signaled Thursday that it is going head-to-head with Apple when it unveiled its high-end Kindle Fire HD. It will have two Wi-Fi channels and two internal antennas for faster, smoother transfers. That will be crucial for high-definition movies and other large files, Bezos told reporters.
The HD model will also have more storage, starting at 16 gigabytes (the same as the iPad), compared with 8 GB for the old Fire. About 2 GB is taken by the Fire's operating system.
An 8.9-inch model will go for $299 and start shipping Nov. 20. That means a device nearly as big as the iPad will sell for at least $100 less. A 7-inch HD model will sell for $199, starting next Friday. Movies will play in 720p on the 7-inch model and 1080p on the larger one.
The Fire, however, won't have as extensive a selection of apps as the iPad. In addition, while the HD models will have a front-facing camera for video chats, the iPad has one on the rear as well for taking photos and video.
A premium Kindle Fire HD model, one with the ability to connect to the 4G cellular networks that phone companies are building, will cost $499. It will come with 32 gigabytes of memory and an 8.9-inch screen. A data plan with AT&T will cost $50 a year and come with a cap of 250 megabytes per month. Apple's 4G iPads with 32 GB cost $729, not including data plans with AT&T or Verizon Wireless.
Baird analyst Colin Sebastian said Thursday's event showed that at the end of the day, Amazon is a "legitimate competitor in the tablet market."
"They did at least enough to compete against Apple and against Google this year," he said. That said, Sebastian added that he wouldn't worry about Apple.
"I'd worry about the other Android tablets," he said.
Google, for one, has a 7-inch Android tablet called the Nexus 7. Samsung Electronics Co., which outsold Apple in smartphones this year, also makes Android tablets under the Galaxy line. Barnes & Noble Inc. has the Nook Tablet, which also runs on a modified Android system.
Amazon also refreshed its line of stand-alone e-readers. Called Paperwhite, the new e-reader model has a black-and-white screen and comes with a light source.
Tablets such as the iPad and the Fire don't work as well in bright light because they are lit from the back. Bezos says the light on the Paperwhite is directed down at the display. The device promises eight weeks of battery life, even with the light on.
It costs $119 and starts shipping Oct. 1. Amazon says it will start taking orders Thursday. There's also a model with 3G cellular connections for $179. The Seattle-based retailer is also dropping the price of its low-end Kindle to $69, from $79. That will start shipping next Friday.
With the Paperwhite, Amazon "proved that there is still value in the uni-functional device," Gartner's Milanesi said. But, she added, it has to be cheaper than the rest.
Amazon's stock jumped $5.16, or 2.1 percent, to close Thursday at $251.38. Earlier in the day, it hit a record high of $252.70.
I currently have over 1400 books for my Kindle. With older eyes, regular books are not so easy to read. With the Kindle I have no problem and it doesn't hurt my eyes. I appreciate the fact that I don't have 1400 books in my house and I don't have to box them up to take to a used book store or donation spot. One thing I hated about book stores was that every time I went to get the next book in a series it seemed like they were always out of it. Not a problem with my Kindle. I have the old original Kindle and will be purchasing the new Paperwhite 3G.Â
I love buying a real book from the store. I also like buying new cds and games. There's something about turning a real page, the way a new book or magazine smells. I don't know what's so exiting about an e-book. They hurt my eyes. Funny how being online all day I get eye strain but never had that reading a good book that is real. Also, I enjoy reading before bed, an e-book will keep you up with all the light glowing from it. A real book makes you sleepy. It's going to be a sad day when there is nothing left to leave the house for because everything becomes digital. In my opinion digital sucks.
People can't just unplug and leave their iPads, Kindles, PC's, Macbooks, and phones off for more than 10 minutes. We live in a ADHD society. I observe grown adults that can't put their electronic devices down for even a few minutes. They start getting all twitchy. I miss the days of shutting it all off, including the lights, and reading a book or playing a board game with family. A nice rainy northwest day is perfect for reading a book, a real book.Â
 @FremontTroll You're typing this from a computer of some sort aren't you?  And by my count, you've posted in this same article 10 times now.  Who can't just unplug and turn something off?
 @doubleoevan At work sure. But you won't see me on here when I get home
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I stay away from small business killers and tend to shop at the small local mom and pops to keep the money here. As a former small business owner word of mouth community owned businesses get my support first.
 @WARevolution Amazon helps small businesses sell their products and reach the built in audience that comes with Amazon. Amazon is helping to empower small business. Have you heard of Amazon marketplace sellers?
 @SalParadise Amazon helps itself. If you and doubleoevan think the money stays here, follw amozon money. Amazon is based here, but their biggest cash sales market is over-seas....... corporations have no loyalty.
 @WARevolution What do you mean "keep the money here"?  Amazon is local.  Isn't that keeping the money here?  And is there such a thing as a small local mom and pop that makes tablets e-readers and sells digital content?  If you're referring the fact that Amazon also sells stuff that you could buy at a local mom and pop, then your post is a little misguided being since this is an article about Kindles.  I support mom and pops when it makes sense, but I can't currently buy what Amazon (or Apple, or Google) is offering from any mom and pop.
Give me the library any day.
 @SandyBeach You can borrow kindle books from the library, download, read and return them without having to physically go to the library.
Read the fine print a little more. The 4G $50/yr data plan includes a whooping 250MB/mo. Basically useless....
 @1000 It's not useless.  The Ipad equivalent is $180/year.  The idea is to fill in the gap between Wifi networks.  And any transfers between Amazon's cloud storage don't count against that cap.  If you relied solely on the 250MB, then that would be a problem.  But that's not what it was designed for.
 @doubleoevan Yea, I just learned that ipad's equivalent is much more. Don't have an ipad so I was not familiar with their data plan. I was thinking more in line of phone data plan that are in GB (and still not necessary enough), and can't see 250MB as anything sufficient for watching HD.
 @1000  @doubleoevan You wouldn't be watching HD over 4G. You would be downloading content like books and browsing the web.
I refuse to support Amazon since they support gay marriage laws. They will never get another penny from me again
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 @FremontTroll If that's your viewpoint, I'm pretty sure you've never set foot in Fremont. Even the Troll supports marriage equality.
@FremontTroll Make sure you don't watch TV tonight, chances are there were gay writers on the show too...
 @kockatoo  @FremontTroll I don't watch TV
 @FremontTroll I'm sure they don't miss you or your money as people who spend as much through Amazon as I do more than make up for what $$ they don't get from you. :)
 @FremontTroll Good, then spend your money someplace else.  Your choice.  I will continue to shop with them.
Also, what ever happened to picking up a good old book?? I used to love browsing bookstores and reading newspapers. Can't find many bookstores anymore. People keep buying all this digital garbage and we won't have any stores to browse anymore. I would rather pay an extra buck or two and support real brick and mortar stores. People are just so cheap and anti-social, they're afraid to leave the house. It's becoming a sad world.Â
@FremontTroll I love my ebook. I carry 80 books around in my purse, it's lovely. When I'm on my lunch at work, I get to escape in a book for a few minutes. It's also priceless at the laundromat. I was able to download the entire Anne of Green Gables series (11 books) for 99 cents. It would have cost me much more for even the paperback edition of those books.
 @kockatoo  @FremontTroll I got a 24  book  collection of Zane Gray for $2.99.Not a western fan, but I had never read him. I love my Kindle.
 @kockatoo  @FremontTroll Wait until you lose all your data. Have fun with that. Also, you don't actually "own" anything. Read the fine print. You are just using those books. Amazon can take away your books at any point if they so wish. Try selling one of your e-books. Good luck with that!
 @FremontTroll  @kockatoo All the content you buy is automatically backed up on Amazon's servers. If something happens to your device you won't lose any content. As for "owning" digital content, it's not any different than purchasing from any other digital content from anyone else ... except maybe Apple. Their DRM rights and licensing are stricter than most.
 @FremontTroll Get off my lawn you crazy kids! And why're all those gay folks gettin' married, back in my day we just beat 'em with a stick!
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The iPad is a million times better
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 @FremontTroll My wife got a iPad for Christmas, and I got a Kindle Fire.  Her iPad had issues freezing up after a few months.  She had to take it into Bel Square to the store and have them work on it.  Finally they replaced it.Â
Never had an issue with my Kindle Fire, but it is good to know if I do, I can just call and have it replaced. Â
 @KRM66  @FremontTroll I still have the old original Kindle. In all these years I have never had a problem with it. I have replaced the battery once. Now and then it freezes on me but I simply have to remove the back and stick a paperclip in the hole to reset it and I'm good to go. The lettering is getting worn off on the case and I like what I have read about the Paperwhite 3G so I will be purchasing that. I am an avid reader (over 1400 Kindle books purchased). Â
@KRM66 @FremontTroll Funny, I have the new iPad and my wife has the Kindle Fire. Hers locks up whereas my iPad never does. Just the opposite of yours.
 @KRM66 Keep in mind these new "cheaper" kindles are all ad-supported. I would rather pay the extra money than buy a kindle and have to deal with ads.Â
 @FremontTroll  @KRM66 If you want to pay $20 more than the ad-supported kindles you can deactivate the ads from the Kindle, but you wouldn't know that because you haven't researched what you are talking about.
 @FremontTroll It better be at 3x the price.
 @Wabbit You get what you pay for. The macbook is a million times better than a PC too and costs a lot more but that Macbook will still be working five years from now while the PC will have been replaced two or three times over.Â
 @FremontTroll  @Wabbit I don't know what you are doing wrong. I have NEVER had to replace any PC (desktop or laptop) 2 or 3 times over in 5 years because they stop working. I have chosen to replace them with a better one and leave my old one to my kids tho.
I am still using the original Kindle and I still love it. I am retired and between my laptop and my kindle I don't feel the need to upgrade to a Fire. But the Paperwhite sounds interesting for me. I use my Kindle for reading and with older eyes I need all the help I can get.Â
But does it have a camera?
FYI - yes it does. Front facing HD camera.
I love my Kindles, both the b&w reader and the Fire.  The new Fire is intriguing and I'll be giving it some serious thought...
I'm glad I didn't buy one yet. The small screen was a turnoff, but this new one sounds like it has potential.  Can't wait to see it!
 @Shelly I have a 7" tablet in addition to a 10". I really like the size of the smaller one. Fits in my pocket, bigger than a phone, and something I actually use.
I like how there is a banner at the bottom of this article for the new Nexus 7 tablet.
Love my Kindle and was hesitant because of the kindle fires storage and screen size. Â Looks like I might have to get one now. Â
Hope this is a huge success for Amazon and hope that they continue to grow in our community. Â
When can I order though? It's not on their site yet.
Should be on the site now.
 @PuyallupROX I think they said pre-orders started today, but I'm guessing it'll take some time to update the site. Â
I think Amazon knocked this one out of the park.