Click, print, shoot: Downloadable guns possible

SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — Downloading a gun design to your computer, building it with a three-dimensional printer that uses plastics and other materials, and firing it minutes later. No background checks, no questions asked.
Sound far-fetched? It's not. And that is disquieting for gun control advocates.
Rep. Steven Israel, D-NY, said the prospect of such guns becoming reality is reason enough for the renewal of the Undetectable Firearms Act, which makes it illegal to build guns that can't be detected by X-ray or metallic scanners. That law expires at the end of 2013.
At least one group, Defense Distributed, is claiming to have created downloadable weapon parts that can be built using the increasingly popular new-generation of printer that can create 3-D objects with moving parts.
University of Texas law student Cody Wilson, 24-year-old "Wiki Weapons" project leader for Defense Distributed, says the group last month test fired a semiautomatic AR-15 rifle — one of the weapon-types used in the Connecticut school massacre. Video posted by the group on YouTube indicates the gun was built with some key parts created on a 3-D printer and fired six times before it broke.
No independent observer verified the test. Federal firearms regulators said they are aware of the technology's gun-making potential but do not believe an entire weapon has yet been made.
Still, Israel said the Defense Distributed effort was chilling.
When the Undetectable Firearms Act was last renewed in 2003, "a gun made by a 3-D printer was like a Star Trek episode, but now we know it's real," he said.
Even with gun control pushed to the top of the national political conversation, Wilson is steadfast about reaching his goal of making a fully downloadable gun.
He keeps three AR-15 parts — one black, one white and another green — in his tidy student apartment in Austin, Texas. This weekend, he and his partners plan to print four new lower receivers — the segment of the gun that includes the trigger, magazine and grip.
Wilson was saddened by the Connecticut school attack but said Thursday that protecting the right to bear arms by giving everyone access to guns is more important in the long term than a single horrible crime.
"Clearly what happened in Connecticut was a tragedy," he told The Associated Press. "Still, by affording the Second Amendment protection, we understand events like these will happen."
He said he discussed with his partners whether they should suspend their effort, and they all decided it was too important to stop.
Wilson acknowledged there still are many technical hurdles to creating a complete gun from a 3-D printer and provided no estimate on when the goal might be reached.
Special Agent Helen Dunkel of the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, which helps enforce gun laws, said the agency is familiar with Wilson's project. She didn't offer an opinion but noted there is nothing illegal about making many types of guns at home. Exceptions would be high-powered weapons such as machine guns and those not detectable by airport scanners.
Advances in 3-D printing technology are fueling Wilson's goal. The printers were developed for the automobile, aerospace and other industries to create product prototypes from the same hard plastics used in toys such as Legos. Hobbyists mainly use the printers to design Christmas ornaments, toys and gadget accessories.
Prices of the machines have fallen as the consumer market grows, leading to a surge in interest from people in the so-called "maker" scene. Low-end 3-D printers can now be purchased online for as little as $1,500. More high-end printers needed to make gun parts cost at least $10,000.
Stratasys Ltd. makes 3-D printers, but gun-making was never something envisioned for the machines, said Shane Glenn, director of investor relations at the Eden Prairie, Minn.-based company.
"The gun issue is something that the 3-D printing industry will have to address going forward," Glenn said.
Right now, most people interested in 3-D printing rent time on one of the machines. There are a number of businesses and co-ops in major cities that allow access to the machines for a nominal fee.
At San Francisco's TechShop, which features a 3-D printer for its members, assembling firearms is strictly prohibited and staff is trained on the policy, company spokeswoman Carrie Motamedi said.
Wilson acknowledged his idea has met resistance from those active in 3-D printing.
"The early adopters of 3-D printing technology seem to be an educated, more liberal group who were against firearms to begin with," he said.
Some involved in the development of the technology are now worried the gun project might spur regulations that will hurt or curtail their projects, he added.
Early schematics created by Wilson's group were posted on Thingiverse, a Brooklyn, N.Y.-based website that serves as a hub for 3-D printing aficionados. After the school shooting, Thingiverse took down the links.
Spokeswoman Jenifer Howard said the focus of the website is "to empower the creative process and make things for good."
Thingiverse's terms of service state the site cannot be used to share content that contributes to the creation of weapons.
Wilson said his group has posted the links to the schematics on its own website.
Paul Saffo, a Silicon Valley technology forecaster who teaches at Stanford University's engineering school, said the Defense Distributed work carries on a tradition of tech geeks using innovation to make a political point, in this case on gun control and Second Amendment freedom.
"If you want to get people's attention in Washington, you say something. If you want to do it in Silicon Valley, you make something," Saffo said.
He said the technology exists now for a highly motivated group to make a plastic gun on a 3-D printer that could avoid airport scanners. But the equipment is still too expensive for most people.
"Nobody right now needs to worry about the bright teenager making a gun on a printer in their bedroom," he said.
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Freelance video producer Jay Olivier contributed to this report from Austin, Texas.
Sound far-fetched? It's not. And that is disquieting for gun control advocates.
Rep. Steven Israel, D-NY, said the prospect of such guns becoming reality is reason enough for the renewal of the Undetectable Firearms Act, which makes it illegal to build guns that can't be detected by X-ray or metallic scanners. That law expires at the end of 2013.
At least one group, Defense Distributed, is claiming to have created downloadable weapon parts that can be built using the increasingly popular new-generation of printer that can create 3-D objects with moving parts.
University of Texas law student Cody Wilson, 24-year-old "Wiki Weapons" project leader for Defense Distributed, says the group last month test fired a semiautomatic AR-15 rifle — one of the weapon-types used in the Connecticut school massacre. Video posted by the group on YouTube indicates the gun was built with some key parts created on a 3-D printer and fired six times before it broke.
No independent observer verified the test. Federal firearms regulators said they are aware of the technology's gun-making potential but do not believe an entire weapon has yet been made.
Still, Israel said the Defense Distributed effort was chilling.
When the Undetectable Firearms Act was last renewed in 2003, "a gun made by a 3-D printer was like a Star Trek episode, but now we know it's real," he said.
Even with gun control pushed to the top of the national political conversation, Wilson is steadfast about reaching his goal of making a fully downloadable gun.
He keeps three AR-15 parts — one black, one white and another green — in his tidy student apartment in Austin, Texas. This weekend, he and his partners plan to print four new lower receivers — the segment of the gun that includes the trigger, magazine and grip.
Wilson was saddened by the Connecticut school attack but said Thursday that protecting the right to bear arms by giving everyone access to guns is more important in the long term than a single horrible crime.
"Clearly what happened in Connecticut was a tragedy," he told The Associated Press. "Still, by affording the Second Amendment protection, we understand events like these will happen."
He said he discussed with his partners whether they should suspend their effort, and they all decided it was too important to stop.
Wilson acknowledged there still are many technical hurdles to creating a complete gun from a 3-D printer and provided no estimate on when the goal might be reached.
Special Agent Helen Dunkel of the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, which helps enforce gun laws, said the agency is familiar with Wilson's project. She didn't offer an opinion but noted there is nothing illegal about making many types of guns at home. Exceptions would be high-powered weapons such as machine guns and those not detectable by airport scanners.
Advances in 3-D printing technology are fueling Wilson's goal. The printers were developed for the automobile, aerospace and other industries to create product prototypes from the same hard plastics used in toys such as Legos. Hobbyists mainly use the printers to design Christmas ornaments, toys and gadget accessories.
Prices of the machines have fallen as the consumer market grows, leading to a surge in interest from people in the so-called "maker" scene. Low-end 3-D printers can now be purchased online for as little as $1,500. More high-end printers needed to make gun parts cost at least $10,000.
Stratasys Ltd. makes 3-D printers, but gun-making was never something envisioned for the machines, said Shane Glenn, director of investor relations at the Eden Prairie, Minn.-based company.
"The gun issue is something that the 3-D printing industry will have to address going forward," Glenn said.
Right now, most people interested in 3-D printing rent time on one of the machines. There are a number of businesses and co-ops in major cities that allow access to the machines for a nominal fee.
At San Francisco's TechShop, which features a 3-D printer for its members, assembling firearms is strictly prohibited and staff is trained on the policy, company spokeswoman Carrie Motamedi said.
Wilson acknowledged his idea has met resistance from those active in 3-D printing.
"The early adopters of 3-D printing technology seem to be an educated, more liberal group who were against firearms to begin with," he said.
Some involved in the development of the technology are now worried the gun project might spur regulations that will hurt or curtail their projects, he added.
Early schematics created by Wilson's group were posted on Thingiverse, a Brooklyn, N.Y.-based website that serves as a hub for 3-D printing aficionados. After the school shooting, Thingiverse took down the links.
Spokeswoman Jenifer Howard said the focus of the website is "to empower the creative process and make things for good."
Thingiverse's terms of service state the site cannot be used to share content that contributes to the creation of weapons.
Wilson said his group has posted the links to the schematics on its own website.
Paul Saffo, a Silicon Valley technology forecaster who teaches at Stanford University's engineering school, said the Defense Distributed work carries on a tradition of tech geeks using innovation to make a political point, in this case on gun control and Second Amendment freedom.
"If you want to get people's attention in Washington, you say something. If you want to do it in Silicon Valley, you make something," Saffo said.
He said the technology exists now for a highly motivated group to make a plastic gun on a 3-D printer that could avoid airport scanners. But the equipment is still too expensive for most people.
"Nobody right now needs to worry about the bright teenager making a gun on a printer in their bedroom," he said.
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Freelance video producer Jay Olivier contributed to this report from Austin, Texas.
plastic guns, plastic knives, all invisible to current weapons detection equipment. Things just got more interesting.
It's a sure bet any person wanting to smuggle a weapon on a plane, court room or any place else, their job just got a lot easier. Oh sure these items won't be a durable as their metal counterparts, but the "terrorist" cares about a much about their disposable weapons as one would care about a disposable camera.
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 @DoctorPC All of those plastic items existed years before this 3-d printing technology was even considered a possibility.
The only parts used in the construction of many semi-automatic weapons which need be made of steel are the barrel, bolt, firing pin, hammer, and various springs. In fact there are work a rounds for many of those. For low power ammunition like .22 long rifle, almost every piece could be plastic including the barrel. (Although the barrel would not last too long). Most well equipped home machine shops can make the parts from aluminum and sheet metal without the need for a high end 3D printer, however. The news media is fear mongering again (still). Also without the need for a printer, plastic AR lowers (the part registered with the ATF) sell for about $100 or less.     Â
I know people who are involved with this technology, and what is suggested here is simply not possible - now or at any time in the near future. The tempering qualities required to make a 'reproduce-able' weapon are simply not possible. Yet another example of someone with a little bit of information...
 @The Portmanteau Cat You Are MISSING THE POINT. You don't need a weapon to last over a long duration. The issue is making a disposable weapon that may be good for only a few uses that isn't detectable under normal circumstances. basic steel hardware like nuts, bolts springs etc, could easily hidden in carry on items.Â
Wait till they start doing that with cars. Good grief...
And to think, people realy ARE that stoopid.
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This article is intended for nothing but all out scare tactics. If anyone would take the time to actually research this, there is no way to manufacture a full gun on a 3d printer, the plastics cannot withstand the pressures of any caliber bullet being fired. The parts currently being manufactured are simple parts most that are not even part of a firing mechanism in any way. Trust me unless you had a 3d printer that could somehow print in high strength steel, it is and always will be impossible to manufacture a fully working gun out of nothing but 3d printed parts.
 @JFR you don't need high strength steel, we are talking about a weapon that would last only a few shootings.Â
We are a sick and warped species.Â
 @Citizen#3457899654 yes we are.... only some are sicker and more warped than others.
"Nobody right now needs to worry about the bright teenager making a gun on a printer in their bedroom," he said.
Perhaps true for now, but given time and falling prices...
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To go along with that, I checked out a site where the guy made an ak-47 from a shovel and a few of those internal parts from a broken gun.
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Weapons ban? Riiiigght.
There is no controlling of the plans, nor will there be an effective method of controlling what is printed with a 3d printer. To make it even more fun, home-based 3d printers are getting better and better. You can build one yourself for under $1k. They're not quite up to gun manufacturing level yet, but given time they will be.
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The thing is, the criminals who are really interested in this, such as the big drug cartels, will be able to bypass any restrictions, like they already do. As far as home users and hobbyists go, the day is not that far off when you will be able to make on in your basement if you so choose. The plans will be available at a minimum on the darknet (TOR, etc) and sneakernet, if not on the open net.Â
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The era of gun control is on the verge of ending, and no law making "undetectable" guns illegal will stop those who are determined to do so. The only way that law in particular can be enforced is after the fact and in airports, etc. I'm not saying it's right or wrong, or that it's not a scary proposition. I'm merely saying that this is coming, like it or not.
"I just can't LIVE unless I am able to KILL!!!"
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Gun nuts are intensely INSANE and IMHO also intensely DANGEROUS.
 @JLS1950 And it is comments like these that make us suggest you check into a mental hospital as soon as possible. If you are so far out there that you are that afraid you need serious and immediate help. I'm sure your employer will give you time off and everyone you know will be glad you received the help you need. Please, for everyones sake get help soon.
 @SeattleJoe Shall I arrange for my attorney to discuss this perceived "need" with you - and your basis and qualifications for your stated "diagnosis"?
It is among folk who seem to share your opinions that the "need" to be armed seems to be most expressed. I have gotten along well for more than 60 years without owning a firearm (though I could doubtless obtain one legally AND a CPL within a fortnight or so.)
I don't think it is I who is the one needing "help"!
 @komoispropaganda It is my expressed personal opinion not directed at any specific individual or organization. Do you identify yourself legally as "gun nut"?
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"Gun nuts are intensely INSANE and IMHO also intensely DANGEROUS."
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Is that your stated diagnosis and should I call my attourney?
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I'm not too surprised to hear this.  I've seen demos of the 3D printers and they're simply amazing.  They do produce complex objects with multiple moving parts.  So then, this raises a couple of questions in my mind.  I'm assuming that it's still not possible to print or construct your own ammo, so perhaps "gun control" efforts  would be better directed at controlling ammo.  Also, at this time anyway, a printed gun is entirely plastic, and may be difficult to detect in airport scanners.  Ammo once again is a different story.  At some point though, I wouldn't be surprised if plastic ammo was developed too.  Then it's a whole new ball game.
 @magic_eye The biggest issue is the barrels are typically metal since plastic hasn't so far been able to safely take the pressures. Its possible they have solved that but I wouldn't shoot one or even be close to someone shooting one. Plastic ammo is easy. They have plastic cases, they could make plastic primer cups, and bullets would be easy to make from plastic. Only the powder would need to remain the same. Overall its rather scary to think a terrorist could create a plastic pistol, break it down and smuggle it onto a plane. Maybe the TSA will finally start taking their job seriously and instead of being a political front start profiling people like they should. They need to quit feeling up our kids and throwing granny up against the wall and start saying "Hey, the arab looking guy with the rocket launcher might be someone we should check out.".
 @SeattleJoe  @magic_eye SeattleJoe wrote: They need to quit feeling up our kids and throwing granny up against the wall and start saying "Hey, the arab looking guy with the rocket launcher might be someone we should check out."
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Yes, if only the TSA would just arrest all the "arab looking guys" who are standing around airports carrying rocket launchers! What are they thinking?
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 @magic_eye I think it could lead to a whole new class of weapons.
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I'm not sure there's any reasonable way you could restrict ammo without making it ridiculous and arbitrary. I have friends who go through boxes of ammo doing target practice like candy. It's what they like to do for fun, as well as the only real way to get proficient with a weapon.
That law, the Undetectable Firearms Act, was originally signed into law by Ronald Reagan.Â
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4 members of Congress voted against it. Just 4.Â
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One of those 4 was a young and hip congressman from Wyoming with the name Dick Cheney.Â
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So...is it any surprise that when the assault weapons ban came up for renewal under W, that it was not renewed?Â
 @lakeview Its a good law in intent. In practicality its pretty weak since even with the plastic guns they mention here there are some issues. The primary issue is you still need a metal barrel in most cases, which is eminently detectable. Plastics have come a long way so smaller psi pistol cartridges might be feasible with enough plastic to contain the pressures. If plastics have come far enough that they can handle the impulse pressures of 50,000+ psi then we have a problem. But one thing is for certain I wouldn't want to be anywhere near a plastic firearm (plastic meaning true plastic not the plastic coated metal firearms of today).
As for the slander of Cheney, hey its your first amendment right to label anyone you want as the boogyman.Â
 @lakeview I have a sense that a thorough investigation of Cheney's background would turn up a lot of skeletons... literally.