Early look at Windows 8 baffles consumers

NEW YORK (AP) - The release of Microsoft's Windows 8 operating system is a week away, and consumers are in for a shock. Windows, used in one form or another for a generation, is getting a completely different look that will force users to learn new ways to get things done.
Microsoft is making a radical break with the past to stay relevant in a world where smartphones and tablets have eroded the three-decade dominance of the personal computer. Windows 8 is supposed to tie together Microsoft's PC, tablet and phone software with one look. But judging by the reactions of some people who have tried the PC version, it's a move that risks confusing and alienating customers.
Tony Roos, an American missionary in Paris, installed a free preview version of Windows 8 on his aging laptop to see if Microsoft's new operating system would make the PC faster and more responsive. It didn't, he said, and he quickly learned that working with the new software requires tossing out a lot of what he knows about Windows.
"It was very difficult to get used to," he said. "I have an 8-year-old and a 10-year-old, and they never got used to it. They were like, 'We're just going to use Mom's computer.'"
Windows 8 is the biggest revision of Microsoft Corp.'s operating system since it introduced Windows 95 amid great fanfare 17 years ago. Ultimately, Windows grew into a $14 billion a year business and helped make former Chief Executive Bill Gates the richest man in the world for a time. Now, due to smartphones and tablets, the personal computer industry is slumping. Computer companies are desperate for something that will get sales growing again. PC sales are expected to shrink this year for the first time since 2001, according to IHS iSuppli, a market research firm.
The question is whether the new version, which can be run on tablets and smartphones, along with the traditional PC, can satisfy the needs of both types of users.
"I am very worried that Microsoft may be about to shoot itself in the foot spectacularly," said. Michael Mace, the CEO of Silicon Valley software startup Cera Technology and a former Apple employee. Windows 8 is so different, he said, that many Windows users who aren't technophiles will feel lost, he said.
Microsoft is releasing Windows 8 on Oct. 26, and it doesn't plan to cushion the impact. Computer companies will make Windows 8 standard on practically all PCs that are sold to consumers.
Speaking to Wall Street analysts on Thursday, Microsoft's chief financial officer Peter Klein said he isn't very concerned that user confusion could slow the adoption of Windows 8. When Microsoft introduces new features, he said, people eventually realize that "those innovations have delivered way more value, way more productivity and way better usability." That's going to be true of Windows 8 too, he said.
Instead of the familiar Start menu and icons, Windows 8 displays applications as a colorful array of tiles, which can feature updated information from the applications. For instance, the "Photos" tile shows an image from the user's collection, and the "People" tile shows images from the user's social-media contacts. (Microsoft is licensed to use AP content in the Windows 8 news applications.)
The tiles are big and easy to hit with a finger - convenient for a touch screen. Applications fill the whole screen by default - convenient for a tablet screen, which is usually smaller than a PC's. The little buttons that surround Windows 7 applications, for functions like controlling the speaker volume, are hidden, giving a clean, uncluttered view. When you need those little buttons, you can bring them out, but users have to figure out on their own how to do it.
"In the quest for simplicity, they sacrificed obviousness," said Sebastiaan de With, an interface designer and the chief creative officer at app developer DoubleTwist in San Francisco.
Technology blogger Chris Pirillo posted a YouTube video of his father using a preview version of Windows 8 for the first time. As the elder Pirillo tours the operating system with no help from his son, he blunders into the old "Desktop" environment and can't figure out how to get back to the Start tiles. (Hint: Move the mouse cursor into the top right corner of the screen, then swipe down to the "Start" button that appears, and click it. On a touch screen, swipe a finger in from the right edge of the screen to reveal the Start button.) The four-minute video has been viewed more than 1.1 million times since it was posted in March.
"There are many things that are hidden," said Raluca Budiu, a user experience specialist with Nielsen Norman Group. "Once users discover them, they have to remember where they are. People will have to work hard and use this system on a regular basis."
Mace, the software CEO, has used every version of Windows since version 2.0, which came out in 1987. Each one, he said, built upon the previous one. Users didn't need to toss out their old ways of doing things when new software came along. Windows 8 ditches that tradition of continuity, he said.
"Most Windows users don't view their PCs as being broken to begin with. If you tell them 'Oh, here's a new version of Windows, and you have to relearn everything to use it,' how many normal users are going to want to do that?" he asked.
The familiar Windows Desktop is still available through one of the tiles, and most programs will open up in that environment. But since the Start button is gone, users will have to flip back and forth between the desktop and the tile screen.
There's additional potential for confusion because there's one version of Windows 8, called "Windows RT," that looks like the PC version but doesn't run regular Windows programs. It's intended for tablets and lightweight tablet-laptop hybrids.
Budiu believes the transition to Windows 8 will be most difficult for PC users, because Microsoft's design choices favor touch screens rather than mice and keyboards. Alex Wukovich, a Londoner who tried Windows 8 on a friend's laptop, agrees.
"On a desktop, it just felt really weird," he said. "It feels like it's a tablet operating system that Microsoft managed to twist and shoehorn onto a desktop."
Not everyone who has tried Windows 8 agrees with the critics.
Sheldon Skaggs, a Web developer in Charlotte, N.C., thought he was going to hate Windows 8, but he needed to do something to speed up his 5-year-old laptop. So he installed the new software.
"After a bit of a learning curve and playing around with it a bit more, you get used to it, surprisingly," he said.
The computer now boots up faster than it did with Windows Vista, he said.
Vista was Microsoft's most recent operating-system flop. It was seen as so clunky and buggy when released in 2007 that many PC users sat out the upgrade cycle and waited for Windows 7, which arrived two and a half years later. Companies and other institutions wait much longer than consumers to upgrade their software, and many will keep paying for Windows 7. Many companies are still using Windows XP, released in 2001.
Colin Gillis, an analyst at BGC Financial, is optimistic about Windows 8, pointing out that it's snappy and runs well on PCs with limited processing power, making it suited for compact, tablet-style machines. But he also notes that through Microsoft's history, roughly every other operating-system release has been a letdown.
Intel Corp. makes the processors that go into 80 percent of PCs, and has a strong interest in the success of Windows. CEO Paul Otellini said Tuesday that when the company has let consumers try Windows 8 on expensive "ultrabook" laptops with touch screens, "the feedback is universally positive." But he told analysts that he doesn't really know if people will embrace Windows 8 for mainstream PCs.
"We'll know a lot more about this 90 days from now," he said.
Microsoft is making a radical break with the past to stay relevant in a world where smartphones and tablets have eroded the three-decade dominance of the personal computer. Windows 8 is supposed to tie together Microsoft's PC, tablet and phone software with one look. But judging by the reactions of some people who have tried the PC version, it's a move that risks confusing and alienating customers.
Tony Roos, an American missionary in Paris, installed a free preview version of Windows 8 on his aging laptop to see if Microsoft's new operating system would make the PC faster and more responsive. It didn't, he said, and he quickly learned that working with the new software requires tossing out a lot of what he knows about Windows.
"It was very difficult to get used to," he said. "I have an 8-year-old and a 10-year-old, and they never got used to it. They were like, 'We're just going to use Mom's computer.'"
Windows 8 is the biggest revision of Microsoft Corp.'s operating system since it introduced Windows 95 amid great fanfare 17 years ago. Ultimately, Windows grew into a $14 billion a year business and helped make former Chief Executive Bill Gates the richest man in the world for a time. Now, due to smartphones and tablets, the personal computer industry is slumping. Computer companies are desperate for something that will get sales growing again. PC sales are expected to shrink this year for the first time since 2001, according to IHS iSuppli, a market research firm.
The question is whether the new version, which can be run on tablets and smartphones, along with the traditional PC, can satisfy the needs of both types of users.
"I am very worried that Microsoft may be about to shoot itself in the foot spectacularly," said. Michael Mace, the CEO of Silicon Valley software startup Cera Technology and a former Apple employee. Windows 8 is so different, he said, that many Windows users who aren't technophiles will feel lost, he said.
Microsoft is releasing Windows 8 on Oct. 26, and it doesn't plan to cushion the impact. Computer companies will make Windows 8 standard on practically all PCs that are sold to consumers.
Speaking to Wall Street analysts on Thursday, Microsoft's chief financial officer Peter Klein said he isn't very concerned that user confusion could slow the adoption of Windows 8. When Microsoft introduces new features, he said, people eventually realize that "those innovations have delivered way more value, way more productivity and way better usability." That's going to be true of Windows 8 too, he said.
Instead of the familiar Start menu and icons, Windows 8 displays applications as a colorful array of tiles, which can feature updated information from the applications. For instance, the "Photos" tile shows an image from the user's collection, and the "People" tile shows images from the user's social-media contacts. (Microsoft is licensed to use AP content in the Windows 8 news applications.)
The tiles are big and easy to hit with a finger - convenient for a touch screen. Applications fill the whole screen by default - convenient for a tablet screen, which is usually smaller than a PC's. The little buttons that surround Windows 7 applications, for functions like controlling the speaker volume, are hidden, giving a clean, uncluttered view. When you need those little buttons, you can bring them out, but users have to figure out on their own how to do it.
"In the quest for simplicity, they sacrificed obviousness," said Sebastiaan de With, an interface designer and the chief creative officer at app developer DoubleTwist in San Francisco.
Technology blogger Chris Pirillo posted a YouTube video of his father using a preview version of Windows 8 for the first time. As the elder Pirillo tours the operating system with no help from his son, he blunders into the old "Desktop" environment and can't figure out how to get back to the Start tiles. (Hint: Move the mouse cursor into the top right corner of the screen, then swipe down to the "Start" button that appears, and click it. On a touch screen, swipe a finger in from the right edge of the screen to reveal the Start button.) The four-minute video has been viewed more than 1.1 million times since it was posted in March.
"There are many things that are hidden," said Raluca Budiu, a user experience specialist with Nielsen Norman Group. "Once users discover them, they have to remember where they are. People will have to work hard and use this system on a regular basis."
Mace, the software CEO, has used every version of Windows since version 2.0, which came out in 1987. Each one, he said, built upon the previous one. Users didn't need to toss out their old ways of doing things when new software came along. Windows 8 ditches that tradition of continuity, he said.
"Most Windows users don't view their PCs as being broken to begin with. If you tell them 'Oh, here's a new version of Windows, and you have to relearn everything to use it,' how many normal users are going to want to do that?" he asked.
The familiar Windows Desktop is still available through one of the tiles, and most programs will open up in that environment. But since the Start button is gone, users will have to flip back and forth between the desktop and the tile screen.
There's additional potential for confusion because there's one version of Windows 8, called "Windows RT," that looks like the PC version but doesn't run regular Windows programs. It's intended for tablets and lightweight tablet-laptop hybrids.
Budiu believes the transition to Windows 8 will be most difficult for PC users, because Microsoft's design choices favor touch screens rather than mice and keyboards. Alex Wukovich, a Londoner who tried Windows 8 on a friend's laptop, agrees.
"On a desktop, it just felt really weird," he said. "It feels like it's a tablet operating system that Microsoft managed to twist and shoehorn onto a desktop."
Not everyone who has tried Windows 8 agrees with the critics.
Sheldon Skaggs, a Web developer in Charlotte, N.C., thought he was going to hate Windows 8, but he needed to do something to speed up his 5-year-old laptop. So he installed the new software.
"After a bit of a learning curve and playing around with it a bit more, you get used to it, surprisingly," he said.
The computer now boots up faster than it did with Windows Vista, he said.
Vista was Microsoft's most recent operating-system flop. It was seen as so clunky and buggy when released in 2007 that many PC users sat out the upgrade cycle and waited for Windows 7, which arrived two and a half years later. Companies and other institutions wait much longer than consumers to upgrade their software, and many will keep paying for Windows 7. Many companies are still using Windows XP, released in 2001.
Colin Gillis, an analyst at BGC Financial, is optimistic about Windows 8, pointing out that it's snappy and runs well on PCs with limited processing power, making it suited for compact, tablet-style machines. But he also notes that through Microsoft's history, roughly every other operating-system release has been a letdown.
Intel Corp. makes the processors that go into 80 percent of PCs, and has a strong interest in the success of Windows. CEO Paul Otellini said Tuesday that when the company has let consumers try Windows 8 on expensive "ultrabook" laptops with touch screens, "the feedback is universally positive." But he told analysts that he doesn't really know if people will embrace Windows 8 for mainstream PCs.
"We'll know a lot more about this 90 days from now," he said.
I just ordered a new Dell desktop last weekend and I was not even given the option for Windows 7, I was forced to have it shipped with Windows 8. I did order it then began searches on Windows 8 to find out what I was in for. I do not like the new Start page (Metro UI) at all! I can see this working very well on a tablet or smartphone but not on a desktop or laptop. When I start up my computer I want to begin working, not looking at all of these panels trying to figure out how to get to my desktop. So my next group of searches were how to disable the Start page and it seems there is a registry tweak you can do to toggle back and forth between the new Start page and the standard desktop. Microsoft should set up an option that allows the user to choose if they want the classic desktop or the new layout, after all they spent the money on it, they should be able to use it how they want and not be forced to use it how Microsoft wants them to. If Microsoft keeps this up all they are going to do is upset consumers and lose business.
I'm wonder what the true intention of the $40 MS Windows 8 upgrade is. Is it because they are being "nice" or know possibly a lot of people won't like it & thus have to make it cheap to get people to upgrade.Â
The one thing I'm disappointed is, the missing start menu. While I know that with Metro, its "only two clicks to bring up an app instead of 4", I like my start menu. If anything have the option to either have the start menu or Metro.
That being said, I can see companies/software mfgs like this being popular for a while
http://stardock.com/products/start8/
On the plus side, this will keep XP relevant and in use for another 5-8 years.
One of my biggest complaints about Windows 8 is that a lot of Metro apps will not work if you have UAC turned off. I turn UAC off because I am a power user and do enough things that the UAC popups are very annoying even on Windows 7.
"The computer now boots up faster than it did with Windows Vista, he said."
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Well, that's not hard to do at all. Vista was incredibly slow.
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Really bad UI design.. rather like clown-ware.. innovation has been replaced by regurgitation as MS.. Balmer >> Out!
 @SensationaLies "Clown-ware." Good one.
"Early look at Windows 8 baffles consumers"Â Yeah some are probably going to wonder why windows 8 didn't convert their computer monitor into a touch screen when they upgrade - lol
Nay sayers... Booo. I've used it, and I like it. Yes, It's a departure from the windows you are used to, but in a good way. The layout is simple and the tiles have great little tidbits of info and photos and news. It is also very customizable. You can make it as complicated or as simple as you like.Â
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Obviously, looking at it in the store, or playing with it for a few minutes, it's going to be different. But after spending some real time with it, and tweaking it the way you like, it's sweet! A serious move forward. Any techie will dig it. So will everyone else, once they actually spend some time with it.
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"... an American missionary in Paris ..."
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 @SusieQ Mormon missionary?
Yet another reason I'm glad I switched to apple awhile back.
 @firetrail I am thinking of switching but I have 3 Windows programs I have to have. I wish I could install them on an Apple somewhere in Windows Emulation mode to see if they run before I jump. I played with a Windows 8 machine and hated taking my hands off the keyboard and mouse to smudge my monitor then go back to my mouse.
Neat! I am a software architect and I am interested, gotta give it a whirl before I have a real opinion. I don't get hung up too much on labels like some people that will defend a company like it's their best friend.
 @alildifferent If you do, I'd suggest using the 90-day evaluation in a virtual machine. http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/jj554510.aspx
@Just_Mike Thanks.
 @Just_Mike  @alildifferent Any idea if this will run in VMWare player?
 @Stock Woodie  @alildifferent Runs fine in VMWare Workstation (configured it as Windows 7, the tools worked fine). So if VMWare Player supports Windows 7, yes.
Sounds like I better go out and get a new Windows 7 machine now.
 @James127 You don't have to go buy a whole new machine.  The OS isn't permanently stuck on the drive.  So many people think when "Windows Rot" hits (when the computer slows down after a year) they need a new computer.Â
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 @Tom-RNT  @James127 That's because they don't understand what causes the computer to slow down after a year and how easy it is to keep it from doing that.
 @James127 Just bought 6 in the last month!
Go get a car with a carburator too. They're so much easier to work on!
 @James127 Exactly, don't even give it a chance or do some actual research. Instead base your computing needs on KOMO forum posts and horror stories picked up by AP but whatever you do do not actually think for yourself.
 @James127 It will certainly be much harder to get a Windows 7 powered machine from a retail outlet very soon, but it should be available on new computers via mail order for a while.
I'm witholding judgement until I try it out in ernest, but I did spend about 20 minutes with the developer preview last year and was repulsed. I disliked it so much, I actually got kind of P.O.'d. Maybe that's because Windows 8Â felt like a complete departure from Windows 7, the best version yet as far as I'm concerned. My stance right now is that while Windows 8 might be right for Microsoft, it's not right for me.
Ahhh yes another Vista....Good times ahead.
I definately am not sold on Windows 8. Too much to get lost in and after trying the free demo version I was not able to get to several of my Windows XP drives even though I did not try to install on any of them. I will wait as I have for each new "More easy to use, Bug free, and secure version" to get easier to use, bug free and a service pack to fix the security holes as I have the past versions. I am a home brewed techie as well as an engineer so I do have a lick of sense and knowledge about PCs. I have built my own PCs from parts including the one I am using now and at least for the present I see no reason to run out to the store and buy yet another headache filled overpriced OS.
This is typical MS telling you what you want, instead of building an interface that's "usable" and practical, (see, MS Ribbon Bar). The inability of this company to pay attention to the consumer's need (not the PC manufacturer) will be it's undoing, (see, Windows Vista). The fanboys that defend this god awful OS make me laugh. Good thing I'm paid to support windows for a living, I use linux to get the job done.
That thud you just heard was an echo from a parallel universe far out in space. It is identical to our own but runs one week ahead of our in time. That thud was the sound of Microsoft's stock price hitting the floor once investors figured out that nobody that uses a traditional PC is going to like this product.Â
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Not sure why they needed to throw out 25 years of Windows experience to completely remake their OS. I predict this flop will make Vista and ME look like stellar success stories.
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@MikeCoomer It seems that they didn't throw out the experience... but rather followed it. After using Win 8 Preview for the last 3 months I personally feel it is the best iteration of Windows that I have used (95, 98, ME, XP, XP Pro, Vista, Win 7). Even on older hardware (9 years old) that I've been testing on - Win 8 has been the best perfomer.
 @RMyrup  @MikeCoomer While it may be the best performer, you've got a world of users accustomed to using the interface in a certain way who have developed their own particular habits for navigating, copying files, printing, emailing, gaming, writing letters, and so on.And now Microsoft is going to yank the carpet out and tell everyone that they now have to do the same things only in a radically different, unfamiliar way.More performant is not necessarily better.
 @Poisonous Giraffe  @RMyrup  @MikeCoomer I just need to point something out: If we, as a society, just stuck with things that we were accustomed to and never tried anything new, lessee...
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We would probably never have started using modern conveniences we now take for granted, like the microwave, the telephone, the television or the computer.
We'd still be using horse-drawn carriages for all our travel.
We'd be living in a monarchy. There'd be no vote and few rights.
... my point being that change is not always bad. Don't fear things that are different just because they're different.
I think you misspelled "irritation" RMyrup!
You're kidding right...? We just upgraded at work to Windows 7 and now you're saying there is YET ANOTHER operating system? No wonder Microsoft stock is dropping...rather than simply perfecting what they already have, they will confuse and confound with new toys...brilliant.Â
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 @takncarabizniz Eh, MS stock ain't really dropping that much. Its stock price has never been particularly high to begin with.
 @takncarabizniz Windows 7 is 3 years old.  Don't blame Microsoft for your companies lack of planning. Â
 @takncarabizniz Sounds like your work place is way behind! They do that for the sake of security so they do not have to train the IT and IS guys again...:-)
Windows 8:
1. Unify phone and desktop. Â Only good for those that use both, so if you only use on or the other, will call that 50/50 or a draw.
2. Works better on older platforms. Â However, I think this will be one of those that has a asterisk next to it that says, good luck on finding drivers for older machines. Â
3. New Interface. Â The interface is really innovative compared to other technology. Â But thats like saying the bright pink house is different from the others. Â The bigger question is, is the bright pink house in fact really better than the other houses? Â I could think of many ways to make an OS look different (like Microsoft Bob). Â But does it make our life better? Time will tell. Â
4. Enterprise ready? Some customer struggled to move from XP to Windows Vista/7. Â From a new IE to support to the UAC, they struggled with getting their apps Vista/7 ready. Â I can't imagine what they are going to do with Windows 8. Â Throw on top of that user training and you have a mess.
5. Touch me or touch me not. Â How good is the new interface if you don't have a touch monitor. Â I am looking forward to tools like "leap motion" to get the most out of touch OS's, but until then, not sure I want to use my mouse and keyboard with Windows 8 knowing I am using the wrong environment.
6. Cost. Â Love how some folks say it will cost $40 dollars to move to Windows 8. Â Call me in a year when I am buying it and let me know if it is still $40.Â
7. Tech stuff. Â Still use the registry? Â Still using UAC and standard user? Call me when these are figured out.
8. RT. Â Really. Â Two different platforms for the same OS that can't use the same software? Â Befuddled on that one.
"The computer now boots up faster than it did with Windows Vista, he said."
Duh, everything boots faster than Vista.
Aside from that, I dont know about you guys but I hate the new interface. Even the new Server 2012 interface looks like this. Its ridiculous, the same stuff I already know, now I will have to learn how to find all over again.
@northwestsurfer I agree with your "Duh" statement. I took a 9 year old computer of mine and compared XP Pro, 7 Pro, and Win 8 Preview. Win 8 booted the fastest. Personally comparing software (MS Office, Adobe CS6, Firefox/IE/Chrome) I found Win 8 to be the speediest.
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I did some Photoshop rendering side-by-side on my 9 year old computer (Win 8) and my 2 year old computer (Win 7 Pro, double processor speed, 3x RAM) and found that under Win 8 on the older hardware the rendering was slightly faster.
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To make the learning process faster try the Win 8 walkthrough/tutorial... you know, the one that pops up on first boot/first login? It points out how to do most of the things the "real people" in the videos had trouble doing.
Well, it looks like my next computer will be a Mac.
 @lovinTruth I have my imac partitioned and run vista on my 'windows' partition, actually runs quite well.
 @lovinTruth For 18+ years I used a MS pc for both business and home use. Finally got smart (thanks to husband) and started using a MAC. So intuitive, straightforward, and their layout/interface/design was using colorful tiles and touch/mouse whichever based on ipad or pc for quite some time now - this is nothing new - as Microsoft is trying to make it out that it is. Just copying from Apple as much as they can without getting into any legal hassles - that's my take anyway.
i'm firing microsoft and going chromebook next time i upgrade my equipment!
@lazarus Chromebook... you mean Linux with fancy clothes? :-)
 @RMyrup  @lazarus right, but all set up and in a nice, neat package. easy for an old guy like me who doesn't want to spend a lot of time doing configuration.
 @lazarus If your going to go that route, you might as well just run linux. You can dual boot and use the XP/Vista/7 you use right now too.
 @DarkParty  @lazarus Pssst. Chrome is a Linux iteration, but you already knew that right LOL
 @Larry*X*K  @lazarus I was talking about his current windows machine.
 @DarkParty  @lazarus so why do you need two different Linux flavors on the same machine? Why don't you just install all 51 million of them ?
 @Larry*X*K  @lazarus Umm, yeah I did.