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Decoding social media 'weather geek speak'

Decoding social media 'weather geek speak'
Blog originally posted Nov. 16, 2010 You thought you'd stay informed on the crazy weather this fall by friending or following a meteorologist on Twitter.

And then come to find you're seeing re-Tweets or Facebook comments from other weather fans that look like some sort of clandestine secret agent communications with funny looking acronyms and random numbers that don't seem to make sense. It's like trying to learn chemistry from an instructor that only speaks Pig Latin. Weather blog to the rescue!

Here are some of the common terms you might run in to, and what they mean.

"Just saw the 12Z GFS and it's going much colder than the NAM and ECMWF..."

The 12Z, or 0Z, or any number and a 'Z' is the time when the forecast model was started. The 'Z' stands for 'Zulu' and that's a military/government designation for what you might better recognize as GMT or Greenwich Mean Time -- basically the standard for using time internationally. (GMT is actually the old name. The French bought the naming rights and it's now "Universal Time Coordinated" (UTC) But that's for another blog.)

Z time is 8 hours ahead of PST, and 7 hours ahead of PDT. The forecast models come out four times a day -- at 0Z, 06Z, 12Z and 18Z. You can do the math for the Seattle times, but it's easier to remember this way:

06Z - midnight model run
12Z - early-morning model run
18Z - early afternoon model run
00Z - late evening model run

The GFS is one of the American forecast model names. There is also the NAM. The GFS is also moving to the WRF because NOAA apparently can't stand keeping a model name the same for too long (just ask defunct "NGM" and "MRF")

ECMWF is the European forecast model (also known as "Euro"). There is also the UKMET (British) and Canadian but those don't get as much play.

"The 516 line crosses Seattle on Saturday, and 850 temps are -13!"

The "516" line, or any kind of number in the 500s or a "522dm" is a measure of atmospheric thickness. Colder air is denser than warm air, so a column of cold air is less thick than a column of warm air. Forecasting models will measure a thickness between two known pressure levels and the lower the thickness, the colder the expected temperature.

For Seattle, we start to think snow once that thickness is around 522 decameters or lower (not sure why they picked decameters). Typical winter numbers are around 530-540 (anything under 540 is considered snow at Snoqualmie Pass) To contrast, in summer, our heat waves get to be around 575-580dm, maybe even 585. Anything over 570 is pretty warm.

The forecasting charts show thickness by a dotted line and will denote every 6 decameters. So when you see the 522 line, or even the 516 line, drift on top of our south of Seattle, that's cold enough to start thinking snow on the surface.

(Note, around the rest of the U.S., the traditional "rain/snow" thickness is about 540, so that's why numbers warmer than that are red and lower are blue on national forecast charts. For 75% of the country, the red/blue denotes rain/snow, but here it has to be colder due to moderating power of Pacific Ocean.)

"850 temps" or "850mb temps" is the measurement at the altitude where the atmospheric pressure is down to 850 mb -- roughly around 4,500-5,000 feet. The temps are in Celsius and typically you start playing the snow game when they get down to about -10 C -- that roughly translates to freezing at the surface.

520 is 0 mph and Sea-Blvu is 95 min. Go 2 I90

That probably means it has snowed on the 520 bridge, traffic is at a standstill, and you should move over to I-90 :)

One other random weather acronym:

MOS: Model Output Statistics. More on that here


If you see any other weird ones, post them in the comments below and I'll try to answer.

Happy Twittering!

What in the world are 'MOS POPS'?

children enjoying popsicle
Mmmm...MOS POPS?

Blog originally posted Feb. 11, 2010:

I had someone ask me the other day: What in the world are "MOS POPS"?

A frosty organic treat to enjoy on a hot summer day? A new symphony set to debut in the rain forest? No, it's much more boring than that... It's a weather acronym.

The person found it by reading the National Weather Service Forecast Discussion which they update every 6 hours or so. That discussion was originally intended to be between other National Weather Service forecast offices so each one knew what the other was doing. But with the rise of the internet, it has blossomed into a more public discussion since anyone can easily read it now.

(And since it's more in the public eye, the restrictions for those writing it have changed as well. Not too long ago, all words in the discussion were restricted to 3-4 letters max to keep transmissions short. Now, Weather Service forecasters are free to write it conversationally. )

But the discussion is still thick with meteorological jargon that may have you scratching your head, and one of those you'll find frequently mentioned is about "MOS POPS."

To use it in a sentence from the discussion Wednesday morning:

Why was a rubber chicken sent to the edge of Earth's atmosphere?

Why was a rubber chicken sent to the edge of Earth's atmosphere? »Play Video
Camilla at about 115,000 feet. (Courtesy: NASA & Earth to Sky Calculus Class, Bishop, Calif.)

Blog originally posted April 23, 2012

What do you do if you're a group of science-minded middle and high school students who want to study the effects of a solar flare?

If you're part of Dr. Tony Phillips' Earth to Sky Calculus class in Bishop, California, you strap a rubber chicken to a weather balloon and send it 115,000 feet up to the Earth's stratosphere -- right on the front door to outer space.

A 'dream come true': UK photographer gets aurora and volcano in same shot

A 'dream come true': UK photographer gets aurora and volcano in same shot
The Northern Lights dance behind Icelandic volcano Fimmvorduhals. (Photo by James Appleton. Used with permission)

Originally published March 5, 2012

UK photographer James Appleton had a dream: To capture the beauty of the Northern Lights in the same photograph as the awesome power of a volcano.

And when the Fimmvorduhals volcano began erupting in Iceland -- one of the world's best places to see the Northern Lights -- he knew he had to make a very challenging but ultimately rewarding trek to capture both events simultaneously.

Florida waterfront condos literally create their own weather

Florida waterfront condos literally create their own weather
"Condo fog" clouds form along waterfront of Panama City, Florida on Feb. 5, 2012. (Photo Courtesy: JR Hott, Panhandle Helicopters)

Scott's Note: I am taking a little time off so I'll be posting a few of my past blogs to fill in the gap.

Blog originally posted Feb. 7. 2012


How would you like to live in a place that not only has a stunning view of the Gulf of Mexico, but creates its own weather?

Check out this photo of individual fog wisps climbing over a line of tall waterfront condos, taken Sunday afternoon by JR Hott of Panhandle Helicopter in Panama City, Florida.

For those tired of cool springs, the blues are literally going away

For those tired of cool springs, the blues are literally going away
Ttulips bloom near Seattle's Space Needle. (Photo: Jonathan Cooper, Seattleimage.com)

Even though technically, for Seattle at least, temperatures have been near to even a little above average since the start of February, if you ask around, many would say this spring is well on its way to being the third in a row and fourth of the past six that have gone down as cold and rainy with the frequent cloudy, drizzly days.

Well, long range models suggest this spring is about to make an about-face and warm things up a bit.

The first inkling will be much warmer weather expected for the middle of next week, with highs expected to climb well into the 60s if not some 70s amid plenty of sunshine.

Is sunny, warm weather ever a bad thing for the Skagit Valley Tulip Festival?

Is sunny, warm weather ever a bad thing for the Skagit Valley Tulip Festival?

Thousands flock to the Skagit Valley each April during their annual tulip festival to see the breathtaking rows and rows of colorful tulips and other flowers.

As you might imagine, playing host to the world means keeping a keen eye on the weather for all the incoming guests, while at the same time crossing fingers that Mother Nature provides the need sun and rain to make the tulips their very best.

I always wondered if the weather in March and April affected how the tulips would grow each year -- if it's sunny and warm for too long or if it rains for four weeks straight, can it damage the bulbs or, worse yet, wipe out the show? Can you gauge how well and how long the tulips will remain in bloom based on the weather leading up to and during the festival?

Skagit Valley blessed with perfect climate for tulips

Skagit Valley blessed with perfect climate for tulips
The sunset nestled behind Roozengaarde's field of Ile de France, Negrita, and Dynasty tulips on April 11, 2013. (Courtesy: Roozengaarde Tulips, tulips.com)

Every April, the Skagit Valley Tulip Festival draws people from around the world to marvel at the brilliant and colorful display of flowers that grace the region's farmlands.

How did this spot tucked into the northwester corner of Washington become the national capital of tulips and an international sensation? By being blessed with some ingenious farmers and the perfect climate for growing tulips.

"The cool, maritime climate that encompasses this area is perfect for bulb growth," said Brent Roozen, with Roozengaarde Flowers & Bulbs, one of the two main farms in the Skagit Valley that grow tulips.

The Skagit Valley sits roughly on par with the latitude of another famous tulip paradise: Holland. While that country is about 250 miles closer to the North Pole, Holland and the Skagit Valley have remarkably similar climates:

Watch tumultuous cumulus clouds bubble over Puget Sound

Watch tumultuous cumulus clouds bubble over Puget Sound
Photo of cumulus clouds building over Seattle on April 14, 2013. (Photo: Gabhan Berry)

You could tell the skies were a bit angry this weekend. If the heavy rain, lightning, snow and enough hail for others to make it look like it snowed there too weren't enough to showcase the turbulent skies, perhaps these videos will.

A few people had time lapse videos made of the bubbling cumulus clouds. These clouds are product of a very unstable atmosphere caused by a larger-than-normal difference in temperature between the ground and the upper levels of the atmosphere.

Springtime is a typical time for these weather patterns when you still have cold winter-leftover storms mixing with the warmer April sun. As that warm air becomes buoyant and lifts off the ground, it can dramatically rise and create these towering clouds that bring the heavy rain, lightning and hail we saw Saturday and, to a lesser extent, Sunday.

First up is Vashon Island, courtesy of Twitter user twitter.com/whitesky60